I’ll Have Another nails Bodemeister at the wire to take Preakness

by | 05.19.2012 | 5:23pm
I'll Have Another takes Preakness Stakes

In what played out like an instant replay of the Kentucky Derby, jockey Mario Gutierrez and the Flower Alley colt I'll Have Another caught Mike Smith and the front-running Bodemeister in the shadow of the finish line to win the 137th edition of the Preakness Stakes from Pimlico race course in Baltimore, Md., on Saturday. The winning margin was a neck, with Creative Cause another 8 ¾ lengths back in third, giving California-based horses a sweep of the top three positions.

Time of the race on a fast track was 1:55.94 for the 1 3/16 miles.

Complete order of finish was: I'll Have Another, Bodemeister, Creative Cause, Zetterholme, Teeth of the Dog, Optimizer, Cozzetti, Tiger Walk, Daddy Nose Best, Went the Day Well, Pretension.

I'll Have Another, owned by Reddam Racing and trained by Doug O'Neill now takes aim on the June 9 Belmont Stakes and will attempt to become horse racing's 12th Triple Crown winner. He beat Bodemeister in the Kentucky Derby by 1 1/2 lengths. Dullahan, the third-place finisher in the Kentucky Derby, didn't participate in the Preakness but is being pointed for the Belmont, along with Alpha (12th Kentucky Derby), recent Peter Pan Stakes winner Mark Valeski, and Union Rags (a troubled seventh in the Kentucky Derby), among others.

“I'm just numb,” said Doug O'Neill. “I could see him and I felt like he was coming, but you never want to expect that he's going to be in front. I saw him coming. It seemed like the stretch never ends. Thank God. Usually you want it to end. Incredible.”

Bodemeister, the 8-5 favorite, went right to the front as expected, just as he did in the Kentucky Derby, setting fractions that were considerably slower than those at Churchill Downs two weeks earlier. He went :23.79 for he opening quarter mile, :47.68 for the half and 1:11.72 for six furlongs.

Creative Cause was in closest pursuit in the run down the backstretch, with I'll Have Another just behind him, alongside longshot Pretension. When Bodemeister hit the final turn, jockey Joel Rosario made his move aboard Creative Cause, putting some pressure on the front-runner, but Bodemeister stretched his lead out to three lengths at the furlong pole (the same margin he held at the stretch call of the Derby).

Gutierrez, meanwhile, saved some ground on the turn, then swung three wide into the stretch. Gutierrez went to work with a ride-handed whip, and I'll Have Another gradually cut into Bodemeister's lead. Bodemeister fought back under left-handed pressure from Smith, but I'll Have Another had the momentum, snatching the victory from Bodemeister and denying trainer Bob Baffert his sixth victory in the Triple Crown's middle jewel.

Final time of 1:55.94 (after a mile split of 1:36.69) was quicker than Shackleford's win last year but well off the fastest Preakness time of 1:53.46 set by Curlin in 2007.

“He looked like he was traveling nicely down the backside and coming to the three-eighths pole, he just sat on him,” Baffert said of Smith and Bodemeister. “The fractions were more reasonable today (Bodemeister went :23.32, :45.39, and 1:09.80 for the first six furlongs of the Derby), so turning for home I really thought he was going to do it. He just got a little late there at the end.

“The winner's a good horse,” said Baffert. He'll get the respect now he deserves.”

“I thought I put him away but he (I'll Have Another) reached up and got us with three strides,” said Mike Smith. “Two great horses and I give them all the credit for what they did.”

Mike Harrington, trainer of Creative Cause, had no complaints about the way jockey Joel Rosario went after Bodemeister early. “What can you do?” said Harrington. “You've got to try to win the race. I have no regrets. He probably won it for I'll Have Another.”

I'll Have Another, bred in Kentucky by Harvey Clarke, is out of the Arch mare Arch's Gal Edith. He was initially sold for $11,000 from the Seitz family's Brookdale Farm consignment at the 2010 Keeneland September yearling sale, then pinhooked by Barry Eisaman's Eisaman Equine at the 2011 OBS Spring Sale of 2-year-olds in training, where Dennis O'Neill, brother of the trainer, picked him out for $35,000.

Now a winner of five of seven lifetime starts and all four of his 2012 races, I'll Have Another paid $8.40 on a $2 mutuel as the 3-1 second choice. “He doesn't have the most respect and he's never been favored,” said owner Paul Reddam, who is experiencing his first success in the Triple Crown.

Gutierrez, a 25-year-old native of Veracruz, Mexico, who won his first career Grade 1 race while aboard I'll Have Another in the Santa Anita Derby in April, gave a flawless ride in the Preakness, just as he did in the Kentucky Derby, when breaking from the 19 post position. “It's not me, it's him,” Gutierrez said of the Derby-Preakness winner. “He has a tremendous kick in the end.”

“When I saw 23 and change I kind of liked where we were,” O'Neill said. “Mario felt super confident in this horse and his ability to get the best run out of him. He just rode him the way it unfolded. He kept him in the clear, and when he called on him he really finished.”

O'Neill said he was confident after seeing how I'll Have Another exited the Kentucky Derby. “His appetite has been unbelieavable,” the trainer said. “His energy level has been high. His stride over this track, he had a couple days at Churchill where he didn't go over the track as good as some other days. But here he just really handled the track  great every day. He just really thrived from the Derby.”

The day before the Preakness, at the suggestion of Reddam, Doug O'Neill and Gutierrez watched numerous replays of past Preaknesses, trying to get an idea of how the race has been won in the past. “Mario and I took away from that that Pimlico's very fair,” said Doug O'Neill.

Dennis O'Neill said they may do one better when it comes to the Belmont Stakes, run at the distance of a mile and one-half on the enormous Belmont Park oval.  At the invitation of retired jockey Richard Migliore, who now does television work for the New York Racing Association and HRTV, Gutierrez and Migliore will walk around the surface on which the Belmont will be run. “You can get lost out there it's such a big track,” said Dennis O'Neill.

Gutierrez, who for five years has been based at Hastings Park in Vancouver, Canada, said it “will be a first for him” to go to New York Belmont Park. “It's not the first time I'm going to race a long race,” he added. “In Vancouver we have marathon races where they're just running around the track like five times. It's pretty long.”

I'll Have Another will be the 12th 3-year-old to go after a Triple Crown sweep since Affirmed last accomplished the feat in 1978, becaming the third Triple Crown winner of the 1970s, joining Secretariat in 1973 and Seattle Slew in 1977. Since then, the near-misses included Spectacular Bid (1979), Pleasant Colony (1981), Alysheba (1987), Sunday Silence (1989), Silver Charm (1997), Real Quiet (1998), Charismatic (1999), War Emblem (2002), Funny Cide (2003), Smarty Jones (2004), and Big Brown (2008).

“It's one of those things where it's good for the sport,” said Baffert, who brought Silver Charm, Real Quiet and War Emblem to the Belmont in hopes of a Triple Crown sweep. “It's good for the Belmont.”

The possiibility of a Triple Crown win by I'll Have Another will also put a brighter spotlight on trainer Doug O'Neill, who has been the subject of a number of newspaper and online articles scrutinizing his list of medication violations and racing fatalities throughout his career. The focus on O'Neill comes at a time when the New York Times has published a series of critical investigative articles on horse racing and a Congressional hearing conducted a hearing into the use of medication in racehorses and its effect on safety of horses and riders. Legislation introduced a year ago by Kentucky Rep. Ed Whitfield and New Mexico Sen. Tom Udall would impose a federal ban on all medication in racehorses along with far stricter penalties on rule violators than currently exist. 

Asked if he had any apprehension about answering questions about his record, O'Neill said, “Not at all. We play by the rules. It's all about the horse.”

O'Neill, who came to Baltimore early and was a great asset to the Maryland Jockey Club in promoting the Preakness, said he's enjoying the ride.

“The great thing about having a horse like I'll Have Another, it opens up a lot of doors. You get to meet so many people hwo love horses and they love horse racing. Along the way if we can share a little bit of the backstage fun of it, and the excitement and the beauty of it, I would like to do that. I would love the opportunity to do cool things in New York if we can.”

Aided by an InfieldFest concert featuring the likes of Maroon 5 and Wiz Khalifa, Pimlico officials said the 137th Preakness attracted a record crowd of 121,309 and wagering of more than $80 million was the sixth highest in the race's history.

Preakness chart

  • Ida Lee

    OMG…I have no voice. What an incredible and fun race!!! I’ll Have Another is unbelievable. For a minute there, before he took off like a rocket, he went wide and looked rank, shaking his head. I said oh oh…he’s not happy. Of course not, he was being held back and he was ready to fly. Wow and Wow again!! Hello New York and Big Sandy!!!

  • Wolf

    Here we go again.  What an awful result for racing.  After the mainstream media looks at Doug O’Neill’s record horse racing will look like Michael Vick’s dogfighting ring.  And Claire Novak just tweeted that we shouldn’t bash O’Neill or talk about his record but rather focus on a “gritty little horse.”  “My little pony” journalism strikes again.  This is going to be a bad three weeks for racing.  Maybe New York will take away O’Neill’s license.  We can only pray!

  • desertrailrat

     So I take it you didn’t cash any tickets?

  • HappyHarriet

     Do you suck the air out of every party? 

  • vivi

    Horses don’t choose trainers—he runs his heart out,and if you cannot cheer on a champion, maybe you should take a walk in the park and chill…

  • Bristling

    I’m sure NYRA is happy to have a horse coming with a shot at the TC

  • Rob Whiteley

    The O’Neill drug violation cloud aside, this exciting horse and race creates a warm shaft of light for me by underlining the high quality of his sire, Flower Alley. The way Flower Alley was dismissed in the commercial market place before any of his good foals even had a chance to race underlines the ridiculous degree of disconnect between the race track and the sales arena. It also questions whether many of the “experts” know much at all and suggests that a significant number of agents and buyers and breeders simply become followers who are heavily influenced by heresay and spin without understanding the record or appreciating what they are looking at right in front of them. Even when Flower Alley produced a Grade 1 Ashland winner in his first crop, breeders did not support him, despite a high percentage of good foals. Therefore, it makes me happy that horses like Flower Alley can overcome nonsensical perception and limited opportunity with top class performance.

  • Equine Avenger

    Nothing against the horse and rider, I just wish this was happening to a much more deserving trainer.

  • Mrjosephsmartin0205

    Im not a Cal. Person but I loved the race . I tip my hat to the winner and all the connections! The BEST of luck in NY!

  • Stanley inman

    Wow, you got to love this sport and this story;
    Gritty finish from a horse( and sire) that gets no respect;
    Notorious trainer (c student!)
    unconventional owner & cool rider
    Don’t worry about O’Neill’s backstory (we all have one don’t we)
    Let’s all go to the big apple,
    He meets up with Dullahan for a great adventure,
    If you want to make it a negative story
    That’s your business

  • tomfool

    It’s a good bet that Bob Baffert will not run Bodemeister in the Belmont Stakes.  If so then I can’t think of a horse that can give I’ll Have Another a race in the Belmont Stakes.  Unless cumulative fatigue catches up with I’ll Have Another,  as it did with Smarty Jones a few years back,  I think we’re looking at a new triple crown winner.  I’ll have Another’s running style is suited to Belmont.  Mark Valeski?  Dullahan?  Union Rags?  Nice colts but no matches right now for Doug O’Neil’s little chestnut.

  • Jack Wolferseder

    Ray, you should be aware that rule 4033.8 of the Code Rules & Regulations of the State of N.Y. reads…..ONLY EQUIPMENT SPECIFICALLY APPROVED BY THE STEWARDS SHALL BE WORN OR CARRIED BY A JOCKEY OR A HORSE IN A RACE.  I’m pretty certain that equipment such as Cornell Collars and NASAL STRIPS are NOT approved for use.  You might want to reach out to O’Neill and make him aware of this!   Welcome to The Big Apple!!!!! 

  • Hossracergp

    Look at the bright side, nobody shattered their leg a few jumps out of the gate. I think the sport suffers far greater harm when horses breakdown in the big races than they do by somebody having a bad test.

  • JC

     Ditto.  Until proven otherwise, I am happy for the horse. 

  • JC

     PS–And that smart, astute, talented jockey. 

  • Citation1012

    I would love to see a Triple Crown winner, horse racing needs it.  However with the news out on the trainer it would simply be a pyrrhic victory

  • April Smith

    Controversy aside,a lot of trainers could learn to help turn folks on to horse racing like Doug O’neill did in Baltimore. He visited the Ravens training camp,threw out the first pitch for the Orioles, ate crabs downtown and visited the patients at Johns Hopkins. Baltimore reacted by overflowing our stable tours and coming out 121,309 strong on Preakness day. How many race fans were born last week? Time will tell.

  • TripleCrwnWnr

    Get the F’ off here! Racing doesn’t need people like you!

  • Mary

    Watching I’ll Have Another run down Bodemeister in both the Derby and Preakness gave me the chills (and I mean no disrespect to (Bodemeister).    Not to mention his jockey is incredible in both talent and disposition.  I hope IHA wins the Triple. 

  • Dylan Clarke

    What I’ll have another has done and will do should not be tarnished by what his trainer “has” done in the “past” and Doug o’neil should not be judged for what he has done in the past because this is a different horse different circumstance. How can we say this horse and trainer and rider combo isn’t a good thing for the sport just because he had some bad tests on other horses in the past. A triple crown winner would be a great thing for the sport and Doug and this lil horse are a very good story. This is a vet and drug driven business now and you can not blame a trainer competing at high caliber not to take every edge he can to win because trainers have a lot of pressure to succeed so let by gones be by gones.

  • Robb

    That was an amazing victory by I’ll Have Another, who is a super horse.  Regardless of what people might feel about his trainer, the horse still has to go on the track and get it done.  And what I’ll Have Another has done is win the Derby and Preakness with true talent and guts.  We can only hope he’ll do the same in the Belmont.  

  • Don Reed

    Good ol’ Bouncemeister, the greatest Triple Crown place bet in the last 50 years.

  • Don Reed

    Agreed.  The only way I can stomach this is that the jockey is a superb guy; smart, pleasant, professional and articulate.  Maybe he should have been IHA’s trainer.

  • Don Reed

    Claire should stop tweeting and start thinking.  Really, I’m suprised that she would say something along these lines.  I’m chalking up to the “insider” media wear and tear that all of us would get infected with after the years of Dutrow Etc.

  • Don Reed

    We would all take a walk in the park if there were a park in our basements.

  • Don Reed

    Stan, no, we don’t all have a “backstory.”  Some do some don’t.  O’Neill will create his own story, at Belmont, and part of it will necessarily be his past record (better/worse).  I’m hoping that he’ll have the brains to realize what a mess Dutrow made of things in 2008, and if things go wrong, handle the adversity with class.

  • roger

    I don’t think journalists should compare the splits of the SEALED Churchill Downs track to
    the Pimlico track….2 completely different surfaces. I did find interesting… comparing the $300,000 Pimlico Special splits/final time vs the Preakness.
    Pimlico Special Grade 3 – Friday – 3 yr.olds and up…. 1 3/16 mile
    23.60  //  46.88  // 1:10.73 //  1:36.76  //  1:57.60
    The Preakness – 3yr.only…….1 3/16 mile
    23.79  // 47.68 //  1:11.72 //  1:36.69  // 1:55.94

  • Tinky

    “This is a vet and drug driven business now and you can not blame a trainer competing at high caliber not to take every edge he can to win because trainers have a lot of pressure to succeed so let by gones be by gones.”

    Presumably you would also excuse the heads of major investment banks for “competing” and taking every edge to win.

    Again, racing is a  microcosm of broader American society. 

  • Don Reed

    You have 12 eggs in the carton who are not chicks yet.  Stop counting.

  • Bill Steele

    People keep asking how to get horse racing back. All I see here is a bunch of people being negative. Here we are in one of the highest points of the racing year and all we have are a bunch of people who don’t even use their own names bashing anyone in sight! Doe anyone even have a clue on how to promote tis sport? Trainers, owners and naysayers bashing the most positive thing happening lately…Hell we deserve what we get!

  • Tinky

    While those who are turned off by O’Neill’s history are correct in their cynical understanding of it, they are either blind to the fact that many of the best known American trainers have histories of cheating their way to the top, or are conveniently ignoring it.

  • dh

    I see the nasal strips in the photo, but I’m pretty certain(your words) that I don’t see a Cornell Collar. I think O’Neill will be more concerned with the “test” in NY than whether he can run with nasal strips. No Triple Crown this year.

  • wabstat

    The three DRF kingpins, Christ, Watchmaker, and particularly Beyers now look like the three stooges.  How about a little praise for this dual classic winner now.  I won’t waste much time reading these dopes any longer.

  • Frank L.

    Jack —

    What do you know about a Cornell
    Collar, IHA was not wearing one — they are not allowed . Nasal
    strips are OK. IHA wasn’t the only horse wearing a nasal strip on
    Saturday’s card!!

    Why do you comment and try to make
    trouble when you don’t even know the facts, or, what you are talking

  • Frank L.

    Don —

    O’Neil has done more for the sport than
    “YOU” or Baffert could ever do!! His record is what the media
    makes of it, NOTHING MORE!! He is the most deserving of all the
    trainers that raced in the Derby. He didn’t have a gold spoon when
    he started, or BIG MONEY behind him!!

  • Dylan Clarke

    No I don’t excuse I’m just saying what it is I’m saying that in Doug o neils case and I’ll have another it should be excused and should not be brought up every 5 minutes on live television by NBC

  • Dylan Clarke

    Difference 3 yr olds and up and straight 3 yr olds plus bodemiester lone speed the special had a contentious pace

  • Frank L.

    Tinky —

    What would you “KNOW” of it. You
    are an instigator of bad press and perception, not in a capacity to
    down anyone. The only thing you “THINK” you know, is what you
    read — and since the media reporters don’t know much, where does
    that leave YOU!!!

    As far as trainers, they ALL have
    worked hard to get where they are at, they don’t have to satisfy YOU.
    90% of the time you don’t “understand” what you are talking
    about, like at present, go to Europe where you would feel more
    comfortable. It’s people like you that are bad for racing, not
    O’Neil!! Big Mouths usually have very insignificant resumes — I
    think this would fit YOU very comfortably!!

  • Barbara

    Hey Doug, Paul, without even reading some of the vitriol here…good luck and thanks for trying to do so well for the sport when handed the opportunity to promote it. Even in the face of the naysayers. I’ll Have Another.

  • Tinky

    Frank –

    Here is what I “KNOW”:

    Your comments are almost invariably dishonest, ill-informed, or both, and the above falls squarely into the latter category.

  • Frank L.

    Bill —

    You are right on. That realization
    should tell you of the measure of intelligence of most who comment
    here. The majority have very little “actual” experience to
    understand, so they just BLAB what the AGENDA driven media feeds
    them, not understanding the truth about racing and its rules and

    O’Neil is a great ambassador for the
    sport — as the racing official of Pimlico stated on TV. Really
    small people can’t stand another small person making it, jealousy is
    an ALL consuming evil.

    Racing WILL survive because of people
    like O’Neil, by forcing people that don’t understand, Tinky and Co.,
    to go elsewhere. O’Neil gained more good will in Maryland, for horse
    racing, than all the negative commentators on this negative site,
    scares away!

  • Frank L.

    How about Alydar?

  • Frank L.

    Tinky —

    Wake up — it always has been
    that way. Today’s society is led, influenced, and shaped by what the
    media (government periodical) wants them to believe and “PERCIEVE”
    — this has always been the way of a negative ideology, leading the
    ignorant, and it almost always works because ignorance can be easily
    led. Look at the U.S. today as an example of what I’m talking about.
    The workings of the Federal Government mirror that of horse racing
    because of one commonality — ignorance of the workings, thereof!!
    People believe what they read, even though twisted and
    misrepresented, not having the intelligence, nor “understanding”,
    to discern and dissect what is presented under the “guise” of

  • Frank L.

    I suggest you don’t watch and watch cartoons — something YOU can stomach!!

  • Tinky

    While you are correct in your occasional references to the mainstream media being captured by government (and moneyed interests, obviously), your are dangerously wrong to assume that those in Federal Government fail to understand what is happening.

    Those at the highest levels of power (e.g. Obama, Larry Summers (now out of government), Paulson (ditto), Holder, Clinton, all Senators, etc., know damn well what they were/are doing. They are beholden to moneyed interests, and are aggressively acting in their interests.

    They have, however, badly overreached this time around, and the house of cards will soon come crashing down on them.

  • Frank L.

    Rob Whitely —

    Reread what you have written,
    substituting O’Neil for Flower alley!! You have the very same
    situation. Just read through the negative comments on this site,
    made by people who have done nothing for racing, in “DIRECT”
    contrast to O’Neil!!!

  • Don Reed

    That last sentence/qualification qualifies Al Capone as a Horatio Alger success story, I guess.

    At this point it is sadly necessary to remind you that Baffert came from a no-stop-light town in New Mexico and had to hustle like a fiend when he was training horses that ran for $500 purses, long before he arrived in CA.

    Aside from the disconcerting issue of your amnesia – for at some point in the past, you certainly must have been informed about Baffert’s exceptionally humble background —

    Why penalize success?  Why mythologize poverty?  How does the success of one trainer qualify another trainer as the “most deserving” candidate if both have entries in a race?

    I’ll agree with you in that O’Neill sure is going to do more for the sport than I could ever do.  Then again, given my mere “customer” status, I haven’t run up drug positives, etc. 

    So as far as getting the sport into hot water, I’m delighted that you have nominated me for racing’s Mr. Nobody Award.  I accept it with quiet delight.

  • Frank L.

    Wolf —

    Maybe they (N.Y.) will realize what a
    positive force O’Neil is for “NEW” fans — much like the ones
    gained in Maryland. Geezers like you will pass, as will all
    malcontents, being replaced by fans backing horse racing, and
    appreciating what they see (constant), not what they are led to
    perceive (variable). Keep rooting against O’Neil — the weight of
    negativity is to much for the opposition to carry (Ref:

  • Don Reed

    For those of you who are reading these posts from top to bottom, I have no idea why these posts are being posted twice (the 2nd time, attached to posts of writers who we obviously weren’t responding to; I bet they’re confused as well as to what’s going on). 

    It didn’t hapen because of anything that Stanley, Frank, myself, and the rest of the writers did.

    RAY PLEASE!  Call John Pricci, and ask him to give him the number of the outfit that runs his site.  Maybe they know of an alternative to —

    DISQUS is so bad, I suspect they masterminded the Facebook Initial Public Offering (on NASDAQ).

  • Tinky

    “Why do you comment and try to make trouble when you don’t even know the facts…”

    And the (Frank’s inadvertent irony) beat goes on. Nasal strips are NOT allowed in NY.

  •  Frank L;

    I have been a long time lurker here, and I have “known” and dealt with Tinky for years on other sites and through private emails.  He knows what he is talking about.  He knows more than you, I, or most anyone else around these parts.

    I don’t expect you to change your opinion because some other unknown poster comes from out of the blue to refute your comment, but I do hope that you will read what I am writing here and understand and believe that Tinky has been around the block more than most of us have, and that he does know what he is writing about.

    He is a valuable resource, albeit an occasional irritant to some, but I do like to read what he has to write (most of the the time), and he does have much to offer.

  • James D. Jimenez

    Again today I had the privilege to do the walk over with I’ll Have Another and I can tell you that every shout and yell was nothing but positive for the horse, the trainer, and Lava Man. The crowd is behind this horse, owners, and trainer but the TV people and racing seems to want to dwell on negatives. Well once again racing seems to be missing a golden opportunity to bring the positives of racing to the masses with a horse and trainer that the public loves. 

    Dear racing, please do not mess this up as we are running out of time and opportunities to bring new people into our sport. Please see what the public sees, a great horse, a kind generous trainer and wonderful owners and ride this for all it’s worth. To miss this chance would be like hammering the final nail in the coffin for racing!

  • James D. Jimenez

    Dear Mr. Beyer,
    Since you are now 0-2 with your picks in the Triple Crown I invite you not to join the band wagon. Please go to your figures and pick another horse to root for as the I’ll Have Another bus would prefer it that way. 

    P.S. Our horse is better than yours, again!

  • Frank L.

    James —

    I think, by now, you realize you are
    addressing a bunch of dead heads. These are not the people of the
    sport — they are the people trying to tear down the sport. O’Neil
    will survive, Redman will survive, IHA will survive. The hateful
    people who comment negatively are the ones missing the boat. As YOU
    have already said, the “REAL” fans appreciate, and love O’Neil
    for what he has done and given to the sport — MAYBE that’s why the
    media, and the deadheads here, try to tear him down — HE is a
    positive for the sport, something the media, and the negatives cannot
    stand!! cannot stand!!

    Go O’Neil, you have the support of the
    real racing fan!!

  • Double Jay

    Maybe we should be scrutinizing Doug O’Neill, not for 3 violations in a career. The big trainers have them too. What we should be looking at is what is O’Neill is doing differently with this horse than the other trainers. It’s his training regimen that is different! He has a great horse and is maximizing his ability with the way he works this horse. He works him longer & more frequently than any other trainer in the race. Wake up!  What a bunch of judgmental whiners. You can’t even be happy about something that is exciting and good for the sport.

  • Frank L.

    Van Savant —

    Good for YOU. I’m glad you “think”
    Tinky is all knowing. Who are YOU to judge what he says in the first
    place, as being good or bad. What proof do YOU have that he knows
    what he is talking about. In what capacity were “YOU” licensed
    by a race track? You don’t know a person through emails, any more
    than you would know a writer by what he writes – the only thing you
    would know is that you agreed with him. Maybe that’s enough for you,
    NOT FOR ME!! From what you have stated, you don’t KNOW Tinky at all,
    personally, any more than I do!!

    The fact that evades the question, “in
    what capacities were you, ACTUALLY, licensed by race tracks, says it
    all for me!! He continually lies about his station, he continually
    misrepresents what he “actually” has said — stating that he has
    answered my question in the past, which he has never done — then
    says that I am ill informed, while he has “NO” actual barn
    experience, except that which someone has told him, or which he has
    read — Not the same!! That would be like a person saying because
    he read books on being a doctor, he “understands” as much as the
    person who “actually’” went through an internship, actually
    experiencing what he read, understanding the ins and outs through the
    actual experience of practicing what he “knows” to gain the
    “experience” that he lacks!

    Yes, you can comment on something you
    know, BUT, you cannot comment, intellectually, on something you don’t
    understand — and this is where this comment section fails, Tinky

  • Frank L.

    Tinky —

    I did “NOT” say, or imply, that
    those IN government do not know, or understand what they are doing!
    What I said is that the ignorant public does not know, or understand,
    the workings of government, in the same vain, horse racing, therefore
    they can be led to believe anything the government “wants” them
    to believe through the “controlled” media, as is done in horse
    racing. That’s why one mirrors the other, further, why I referenced
    looking at the state of the U.S. today. The U.S. is the way it is
    today because of the “controlled” media, the same way that horse
    racing is the way it is today because of that very same “controlled”
    media. I hope that clarifies my comment!

    I do agree with your particular comment
    with respect to the Federal Government, 100%!!

  • Frank L.

    Tinky —

    I’m not interested in what you know!!
    What I am interested in is what YOU “understand”? Knowing
    something is about useless unless you understand what you know.

    Understanding is a constant, knowing is
    a variable!! If a person knows something, he can be swayed — if a
    person understands what he knows, he cannot be swayed. Maybe that’s
    why we continually lock horns!!

  • Rachel

    He didn’t “snatch” a victory, he earned it.

  • Rachel

    You mean the Preakness record Curlin equaled, not set.

  • in tears

    some of you people need to find a new interest. Maybe knitting. Forget the trainer. The horse is better than the trainer and has talent and the will to win. I pray he has a saft trip at the Belmont reguardless of the out some.

  • roger

    I don’t think so ….

    Pimlico Special = Endorsement lead by 2 1/2 after a 1/2 mile – by 3 after 3/4 and
    by 1 1/2 in the stretch
    Preakness = Bodemeister lead by 1 after a 1/2 mile – by 1 1/2 after 3/4 and by 3 in the stretch
    The final time shows how quicker the Preakness horses I’ll Have Another and Bodemeister came home vs the horses in the Pimlco Special. Also, in the Preakness – the 3rd horse (Creative Cause) finished 8 3/4 lengths back which may further be an indication how quick IHA and Bode were running the last part vs horses in Pimlico Special.
    Bottomline….Preakness was one heckava race and Bode didn’t necessarily get tired…..I’ll Have Another just gamely perservered.
    The Belmont will have Dullahan and Union Rags back with I’ll Have Another attempting to win the Triple Crown…..Bode’s status is uncertain but come the Breeder’s Cup Classic at Santa Anita in November…..we might see all these horses once again.

  • Old DRC

     Isn’t he one of your homeboys from Michigan? 

  • Stanley inman

    I agree
    yesterday was about the horse, it was magnificent to witness;
    Paulick report is magnificent too,
    The viewpoints are rich and deeply appreciated even when unpopular.
    (remember before PR,, what we had)
    An observation: much like the soapbox in the village square
    This forum serves a valuable purpose to each of us as well as the sport and( even larger world.)
    If we see it as such,
    we won’t get tripped up on the minutia of who we all are.
    If you believe “YOU” are speaking the “truth” then do us all the favor
    of treating yourself to the writings of Michel Foucault;
    A good place to start might be his History of Madness.

  • wabstat

    Absolutely! You can add Steve Christ, Mike Watchmaker, Randy Moss, Jerry Brown and Dave West to that list.  

  • McGov

    If this horse with this kid on his back wins the Belmont, this will be the best thing for racing for many years.  There will be no buts regarding O’Neil, this will become a marginal sideshow.  The story here is this kid really, IMO, and what a story indeed.

  • I picked IHA for the Derby and am so thrilled with his victory in both races. I am hoping for a triple crown winner after all these years.
    Bodemeister was awesome also, but IHA got it in the end. Fantastic ride by Mario Gutierrez.

  • tfly

    You both are missing the point.   What’s tearing down the sport are the cheating trainers, vets, and the owners who keep giving horses to those that unlevel the playing field.  ‘Real fans’ don’t love anyone that states through their actions that their enrichment is more important than this sport.  Period.

  • Jimculpepper

    The real story here is that a stretch runner pedigree with old fashioned conditioning beat onme of the classiest milers in year,  and whipped the new age conditioners  like a red headed step child. Nuts to the rest, and stop putting the other colts down; they are still among the class of the world or they wouldnt have been there.

  • dh

     tfly, when Jiminez and Frank L. realize that they will not be the only “real” fans left, but the “only” fans period, maybe they’ll finally get it. Cheats like O’Neill, Dutrow, Mullins, Lake, Beatties, Gill, etc., have all damaged the game to the point of no return. We that still play the game because its our livelihood are well aware that we are the new dinosaurs. The cheats are drying up the owners pool, driving away fans and making it impossible to make honest money in this game. So enjoy the Belmont boys because when the media turns off the lights its back to the “real world” of racing which is becoming very dark.

  • Ace

    Being racings self-proclaimed Federal Overseer, I officially wipe all (alleged) drug accusations from O’Neill’s record.  Winning the Derby and the Preakness grants absolution for all (alleged) sins.
    Go forth and Triple Crown, my son.

  • Jimculpepper

    Prescription  drugs killed more people last year than illegal drugs;  while colts who  need race day meds to run are not a genuine race horse, those who bash the industry for meds should be asked what is in their medicine  cabinet that they “must have “in order  to run on every rat race day. Funny how the indignation runs parallel to who gets the $$$.

  • Pattidavis212

    Where is Barry Irwin on this? Maybe he is being a sportsman by keeping mum on O’Neill’s victories, but I for one would be very interested in his “take” on these events, a potential Triple Crown for a trainer with a cloudy record.

    Mr. Irwin, please comment if you would.

    Personally, I’m rooting for Mark Valeski and Larry Jones.

  • Don Reed

    Ace, you’re the man.  Perfectly & wickedly stated.

  • Don Reed

    Ray re Disqus: Now the system has the yellow box at the top stating that “The site has blocked you from posting new comments.”

    As with All Things Disqus, as you can see, soemthing else occurred.         

  • Don Reed

    Well said!  But stick with the reliable “rented mule” analogy (even if it’s a cliche).  “Like a red [-] headed step child” is A) A non-sequitur; B) It’s gruesome!

  • Don Reed

    For your sake alone, I hope you’re right.

    JUST remember what happened in 2008 with Big Brown. 

  • Don Reed

    You’re making me cry.  Stop that.

  • Don Reed

    Stanley, I well remember, relatively speaking, the racing media waste land prior to the arrival of the Paulick Report.  It is good of you to remind us of this fact.

    If it’s all the same, I’m sticking with Mackay’s “Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds” (which neatly accounts for my 2012 Derby selections).  But only for the first 97 pages.

  • Frank l.

    Tinky —

    The NY Racing and Wagering Board
    permits nasal strip use at NY tracks that apply for permissison. It
    is this Board that governs its use!!

  • Don Reed

    Wish I’d Said That (my vote for you, and another great name for a Derby winner).

  • Don Reed

    Good point.  Off the top of my head, I think Bode’s place prices were higher than Aly’s but that’s an uninformed guess.

  • Don Reed

    Easy, Frank.  Don’t go mocking my heroes on Nickelodeon, they’re all I have left.

  • Double Jay

    I agree that O’neill’s case should not be brought up every 5 minutes as a sound bite. The tests &  cases are far more complicated than that and all it does is cast a shadow on a great event & great sport. Is this done in any other sport? I don’t think so. When a team wins the Superbowl are the drug problems, legal problems, histories & convictions of the players continually & immediately focused on? I don’t think so. There is celebration of a victory & the plays & effort that took place.

  • Frank l.

    Tfly —

    The point you are missing is that the
    use of “trainers”, plural, is a misnomer propagated by the media.
    The real complainers are the “gamblers” (losers), who would lose
    no matter what was done!! There is nothing going on today that was
    not done by the top claiming trainers of the past. Once you
    understand that, there is NO problem. Yes there are rules, BUT,
    unless one understands those rules and applications, they are easy
    prey for the AGENDA driven media. Understand, the media does NOT
    explain the rulings, or their actual applications to racing!

    As far as level playing field — what
    do YOU think is the point behind spending 4, 5, 6, 000,000 for
    juveniles if not to tilt the playing field in your favor via money.
    Big money rules racing as it does the Federal Government. Do you
    want Pletcher, Baffert, and all other “BIG MONEY” trainers to
    rule the roost. O’Neil is disliked because he exemplifies what the
    U.S. is all about — the small guy can reach the top, although he
    will always have to buck “Big Money”!

    As far as racing goes, dh, what it
    needs is to get rid of “YOUR” kind. I think O’Neil has done more
    for racing than your negative comments have detracted — example
    record breaking Preakness!!

  • Stanley inman

    It’s so easy to make O’Neill
    A villain to be Exorcised
    Or a savior-(a model for all that is possible in the sport.)
    2012 will make him a changed man (how could it not)
    He’s shrewd enough to know how to play his future;
    And wise enough to understand his game must change.
    That makes him just like the rest of us.
    Except He’s the one on the magic carpet ride.
    Let’s hope he prevails
    We all win if he does.

  • Frank l.

    Double Jay —

    Who are “YOU” to be making positive
    comments on this site. Don’t you read the same media BULL that other
    commenters do — Why, WHY, Why, do you “understand” something
    the others don’t!! You must be an actual fan of racing — how did
    YOU sneak into this comment section?Tfly —

    The point you are missing is that the
    use of “trainers”, plural, is a misnomer propagated by the media.
    The real complainers are the “gamblers” (losers), who would lose
    no matter what was done!! There is nothing going on today that was
    not done by the top claiming trainers of the past. Once you
    understand that, there is NO problem. Yes there are rules, BUT,
    unless one understands those rules and applications, they are easy
    prey for the AGENDA driven media. Understand, the media does NOT
    explain the rulings, or their actual applications to racing!

    As far as level playing field — what
    do YOU think is the point behind spending 4, 5, 6, 000,000 for
    juveniles if not to tilt the playing field in your favor via money.
    Big money rules racing as it does the Federal Government. Do you
    want Pletcher, Baffert, and all other “BIG MONEY” trainers to
    rule the roost. O’Neil is disliked because he exemplifies what the
    U.S. is all about — the small guy can reach the top, although he
    will always have to buck “Big Money”!

    As far as racing goes, dh, what it
    needs is to get rid of “YOUR” kind. I think O’Neil has done more
    for racing than your negative comments have detracted — example
    record breaking Preakness!!

  • Frank l.

    Webstat —

    Are not these the very same guys that
    influence perception via their negative media connections??

  • Frank l.

    Stanley —

    If one didn’t believe he was speaking
    the truth, why would he be commenting in the first place?

  • Frank l.

    Stanley —

    I disagree — Keep going O’Neil!!

    You have done nothing more than your
    predecessors!! As far as the milkshaking, as I recall, a couple of
    the leading trainers in CA had bad tests also — they were swept
    under the carpet!! Where was the media then?

  • Frank l.

    A cloudy record to those whose
    perception is clouded by the negative media. Do “YOU” need Barry
    Irwin’s opinion to make you feel better.

  • Keith Craig

    Unfortunately I believe most have missed “the boat.” At the end of the day we need to understand that the elected officials in washington, having spent years and trillions of dollars doing “Nothing” positive for our country? We our passing on the news that only after some report of shady doings became public our leaders want answers!!! You have to be kidding me! How about,”DO YOUR JOB”!!! Regardless of party! Trust us when we say Not another comity or hearing about something that is not resolving our issues! Leave Racing for us please! 
    Yes, rules need to be followed and all that, can we not add any more regulations and oversight! I can’t believe I read a post with someone quoting a regulation about a nasal strip!!! REALLY? That is what and why, we as a country are loosing our morals, values, and ethics. Be an asset, not a liability. 
    Nasal strips should truly be banned in congress. There is an excess of air being moved around and blown up all our triple crown winners! 

  • Dylan Clarke

    This will be a first for me cause it’s not every day someone on paulickreport actually makes sense and has some brains so thank you double jay very good analogy.

  • dh

    Don’t worry Frankie baby, we’ll all be gone soon. You and Dougie can have fun watching the seagulls and wondering where everyone went.

  • Stanley inman

    Frank my friend,
    It’s not that we all don’t believe what we say;
    That’s not the point.
    it’s that your truth can be different from my truth;
    Kind of like the distinction you make between
    “knowing” and “understanding”
    Your version of each trumps all those you see as contradictory to your own view;

  • Stanley inman

    You probably know who’s buried in the unknown soldier’s tomb.

  • Stanley inman

    Duck frank,
    (Couldn’t pass the opportunity to lob a tomato at ya!)

  • Frank l.

    Stanley —

    The point I am making is that if I
    didn’t know football, I would put more weight in what an actual coach
    had to say rather than a casual fan. That’s the problem with this
    site — to many casual fans expressing “mere words”, not
    knowledge from “actual” experience! The casual fan is only
    capable of expressing an opinion based on what he heard, or read,
    from the media. The media is in the business of storytelling, not
    necessarily “explaining” facts as they apply to any given
    situation — therefore, what the fan calls his truth, is not truth
    at all, rather an opinion based on storytelling, which, more than
    not, is “slanted” negatively to sell papers! THAT’S MY GRIPE IN A

  • Matthew Martini

    The stretch run between Bodemeister and I’ll Have Another yesterday reminded me why horse racing is my favorite sport. The thrill of seeing such top athletes perform so gamely brightened my spirit. I could care less that my Pick 3 ticket paid what it cost. The majesty of the sport supersedes all.

    I hope the story of I’ll Have Another gets ample good press in the coming days, and turns a few more people onto how exciting the sport of horse racing is. I’m no defender of O’Neill’s record (far from it), but I would like to see the horse win the Triple Crown. (I was five the last time that happened.) Going forward, I would like to see the industry market the sport as a sport, first and foremost. Generating new fans of the sport, some of whom will learn to read a racing form and handicap a race or two, is sorely needed. Maybe one day tracks will actually have a growing fan base, and not need to beg for slots at their venues to keep the doors open.

  • tfly

    “The real complainers are the gamblers” – What’s wrong with that?   Would you play in a poker game you knew was fixed?  I’ll use myself as an example- i’ve been a fan for over 50 yrs. i’ve owned and raced for over 25 yrs., and i’m so disgusted that i’m thinking of leaving ownership and as a fan.  If you lose people like me, the sport will be like as dh stated.

  • wabstat

    The headline to this article should read, “I’ll Have Another nails Bodemeister, AGAIN”

  • Noelle

    What a great, great race!  It was such fun seeing Lava Man dancing alongside I’ll Have Another, as if the two of them were off to race together, in the post parade.  And the finish was absolutely spectacular.   We were all screaming our heads off as I’ll Have Another came accelerating down the stretch.  What a race!!
    One question – was the track really fast?  What I
    heard from commentators the next day was that the track wasn’t fast, so that I’ll Have Another’s time was actually better than it looked.  But whatever the case about the time, he did what he had to do to win – that’s what counts.  Now on to New York!  I can’t wait!

  • Dylan Clarke

    Totally agree

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