Summary Suspensions Upheld In Texas Class 1 Drug Case; Vet Identified

by | 09.09.2017 | 11:34am
Judd Kearl, 2016 AQHA champion trainer

Texas Racing Commission stewards have upheld summary suspensions of three Quarter horse trainers – including reigning AQHA champion trainer Judd Kearl – resulting from positive tests for the Class 1 drug nomifensine in May and June.

A formal hearing was conducted on Wednesday, Sept. 6, to hear evidence, testimony and arguments related to the July 31 summary suspensions of Kearl (who was notified of five nomifensine positives at Sam Houston Race Park and Retama Park between May 22 and June 17), Jose Sanchez (two positives at Retama on June 10 and June 16) and Brian Stroud (one positive at Retama on June 17).

According to the Texas Racing Commission, each trainer “testified that they did not personally administer or cause to administer nomifensine” to their horses. All three said they employ Dr. Justin Robinson as their veterinarian.

Darrell Vienna, the retired trainer who is now a lawyer and represented Kearl and Sanchez at an earlier hearing and unsuccessfully petitioned for a temporary restraining order in civil court, testified at the hearing. According to the commission, Vienna “offered hearsay testimony that Dr. Justin Robinson had admitted to him that he had administered the nomifensine” to Kearl's horses.

In upholding their own summary suspensions of the three men, the commission's ruling supplement states, “This board of stewards does not find it credible that Dr. Robinson administered nomifensine to horses in the trainers' stables, without the trainers' knowledge and consent. However, if Dr. Robinson administered the nomifensine without the trainers' knowledge, the trainers have still acted, because they gave the veterinarian the freedom to administer substances at his own discretion to horses in their care, custody and control.

“Each of the trainers in this case is an experienced horseman, each with a knowedge of the trainer's responsibility rule, Section 311.104 of the Texas Racing Commission Rules of Racing, the Absolute Insurer Rule which states in part:

“(1) The trainer shall ensure the health and safety of each horse … that is in the care and custody of the trainer. (2) A trainer shall ensure that a horse … that runs in a race while in the care and custody of the trainer … is free from all prohibited drugs, chemicals, or other substances …”

The summary suspensions will continue until a hearing is conducted on the merits of each case.

Stewards may impose up to a one-year suspension and $10,000 fine for the first violation in a Class 1 drug case, a three-year suspension and $25,000 fine for the second violation and up to a five-year suspension and $25,000 fine for each additional violation. The Texas Racing Commission executive director is authorized to enhance penalties, with fines up to $100,000 per violation and a maximum five-year suspension.

Nomifensine is a human anti-depressant drug developed in the 1960s and withdrawn from the U.S. market in the early 1990s due to adverse side effects in patients, including drowsiness and increased heart rate. Because it is no longer FDA approved, the drug likely would have been compounded.

Kearl won 129 races from 474 starts (27 percent) in 2016 for earnings of $4.6 million en route to being named champion trainer by the AQHA. Stroud has won AQHA Grade 1 races in 2014, 2015 and 2016. Sanchez began training in 2016, according to Equibase, and already is among the sport's top trainers.

  • Jack The Ripper

    They put almost anything in American horses. Heart medication,anti depressants…..

    • ben

      You name it, labs will find it.

      • One would hope, sadly it’s not like the TV shows where they take blood and in a few hours they know everything. The testing used is targeted to detect know and common drugs, most are reagent or metabolite tests (when whatever is metabolised by the system the result is often a deritive of the original. I believe for example chocolate as far as testing will show as a class 1.. Don’t recall exactly bit seem to recall morphine, caffeine or something along those lines)
        there are labs in China that can test for about anything but the cost is high

        • Blue Larkspur

          And we won’t ( “can’t” ) pay for it. I read somewhere once that a sample for the US was sent to Hong Kong and lit up their screen with issues

      • You could not be any more incorrect.

        • kim

          Barry I think he meant they have to know what they are looking for?

    • Let’s not forget rat poison.

      • Used as a blood thinner anti coagulant. Increases blood flow to the perifulary vacsulature aka kumidin

        • Blue Larkspur

          yep – a horrific science experiment

  • greg

    I’ve known Darryl Vienna for over 20 years, if you look up Hypocrite in the dictionary you’ll get his picture. While “training” in So Cal he complained more than most trainers about the cheating that was going on, he got beat with regularity by all the guys he complained about, however, once any of those guys was suspended there was Darryl defending them at hearings and court cases. Really, you KNOW what they’re doing, they’re doing it at the expense of your client (yes, 1 client) then try to get them exonerated so they can beat you some more?? If you want to defend the indefensible fine, but not while you’re still calling yourself a trainer!

  • David Burris

    So what is the benefit of putting nomifensine in a horse?

    • Jack The Ripper

      It a mood altering drug. Normally give to those who are hard to load or hard to ride. Some give it geldings.

      • Doc

        “Trainer in a bottle”?

  • snowchrome

    Darrell Vienna is probably very successful as an attorney. But I wonder if he actually cares about the state of racing in this country since he is a former trainer. He’s defending these guys, but it’s almost like shooting yourself in the foot if they get caught cheating later on. Meaning, it’s not helping the industry only giving it a bigger black eye.

    • kim

      Thousand bucks an hour , who’s flittimg the bill? Hmmm

  • gus stewart

    Who is mike makers vet for the meet at kentucky downs. Im just about throwing away all handicapping materials and just looking for his horses first. Purse miney is huge and wasnt he once a 30 to 35 percent trainer. He has a few in many races and they almost all seem to be running extremely well.. when is racing going to eliminate private vets. Maybe he is just this good and i have not looked everday, but seems like he is firing on all cylinders.

    • talkingman17

      Glad you said pal, and his main owner there likes to bet large. I posted a few days ago watch for Ramsey and Maker. Lost the super in the last race cause his 42 to 1 shot came forth. If you see Ramsey travelling the horse is live.

      • gus stewart

        I missed he had the 10 and 11 in race or i would of hit it along with his winner

    • In many cases of cheating, it is not the stable vet who is assisting a trainer in obtaining or administering illegal drugs, but the trainer himself, who is some cases is enabled by his owner(s). Legitimate vets are used as cover. You like to write a lot, but you should spend a little more time on independent research to improve your understanding of how these things actually work. Otherwise you will come off as a bitter gambler.

      • Doc

        You are right. Good point. Glad you made it.

      • gus stewart

        I may not understand exactly how it works and far from bitter, write alot, i have not posted much lately, but it seems that he has loaded up for this meet. One of his winners ran a marathon race, won and the rider dtill was having problems controlling him coming back sfter race.. just sayin, it seems unusual that an horse can do such things

      • Tres Abagados Stupidos

        Not in this case. Kearl, Stroud and Sanchez were well aware of what Robinson was injecting in the horses. Robinson even had a “lab” so to speak set up at Kearl’s barn in New Waverly and was also the one ordering the nomifensine. This was not a case of the legitimate vet getting blamed for a trainer using a medicine on his own.

        • kim

          Ah vet didht show for hearing

  • ben

    This must be a terrible black eye for AQHA racing, so maybe this will help to turn the tables.

    • You are still batting 1000 percent WRONG “Ben” (or whatever your name is). This is just the exact opposite of a black eye. It is, in fact, great news, because rule breakers were caught and proven to be guilty. This shows that the Quarter Horse industry is trying hard to root out the bad elements from their sport.

      • RayPaulick

        Beg to differ, but to my knowledge the AQHA as leader of the Quarter horse industry has been silent and leaderless on this and previous medication scandals that are ruining their name and brand. This case is strictly the Texas Racing Commission and its laboratory at Texas A&M University. The AQHA’s only public statement on medication, to my knowledge, is opposition to the Horseracing Integrity Act. The AQHA once had a stronger voice but now they are just a few letters in horse racing’s bland alphabet soup.

        • Big G

          dear Ray ,, i’m new to your publication and i must say i enjoy your racing coverage , bravo to you ,,maybe you can help a lot of readers by publishing the drugs permitted on race day and those that are not permitted on race day,, at lets say class -1 tracks with charts illustrating amounts administered and allowed by law at each class 1 racetrack,, from what i understand every racing jurisdiction has it’s own rules and regulations regarding amounts and uses for each horse ,, a vet willing to help with the true honest answers would clear up a lot of questions,, thank you keep up the great work you do Big G.

          • RayPaulick

            The only medication permitted on race day in most racing states is the diuretic furosemide (Lasix), originally used to treat exercise-induced pulmonary hemorrhage or internal bleeding. Now most horses get Lasix whether or not they need it. Most other racing countries in Europe, Asia and Australasia do not permit any race day medications. Lasix is being phased out of some South American countries.

            You are correct that all states have their own rules. In recent years, the rules in many states are similar or identical, in accordance with a national uniform medication policy. You can learn a lot more about that program here: http://rmtcnet.com/national-uniform-medication-program/

          • snazzygirl

            I thought they also allowed banamine for race day.

          • El Espresso

            They do… if you don’t get caught !!!

          • kim

            Haha

          • snazzygirl

            My mistake. I didn’t mean banamine….I meant bute. I’ve been treating a horse with West Nile so I have banamine on the brain. BUTE is the one that’s allowed on race day as well as lasix.

          • RayPaulick

            I’m not aware of any major racing states that currently permit race-day administration of Bute. In the past, yes. Currently, no.

          • Big G

            thank you Ray,

        • Scoot

          So true Ray. The AQHA has absolutely no backbone. No one in quarter horse racing really wants to clean it up. They just want to get rid of their opposition so they can cheat and win

          • snazzygirl

            So who’s/what’s their opposition? As far as I know, there is no opposition to AQHA when it comes to sanctioned quarter racing.

          • Scoot

            People within the AQHA have their favorites. You know, the good old boys club, and many with authority have horses of their own running. The rules bend accordingly.

          • snazzygirl

            That may be, but there is still no other organization that sanctions quarter racing other than AQHA. By the way, the good old boys club is not restricted to quarter racing. Further, don’t tell me there isn’t a good old boys club within the Jockey Club.

          • Teddy

            Does the Rocky Mountain Quarter Horse Association sanction quarter racing?

          • kim

            We need to form our own racing , grandpa maddon said that 50 yrs ago and let aqha just be a breed registry

          • El Espresso

            Can’t say it better !!

        • Thanks Ray.

        • El Espresso

          AMEN !! RAY !! the AQHA IS the problem. Just look at the some of the directors, ex presidents, current board members etc….These are folks financing the dirty trainers (actually paying for lawyers for the above champion trainer), financing the vets, financing the labs that can figure out how to beat the tests, these guys know who is up for out of competition testing, know and “help out” the inspectors and investigators….not making this up…just look at all the past inferences that have just miraculously disappeared…there are still trainers with bad tests out on class ones for over 5 years now ?? Yep all with direct ties to the AQHA !!! The only time they (AQHA) get involved is when someone starts to out-cheat them…then they start trying to crack down to eliminate their competition !!

          • snazzygirl

            That’s a rather broad brush, el espresso. A lot of directors, ex-presidents, etc have nothing to do with racing. So you really shouldn’t condemn everyone as you have. These trainers have to have memberships with AQHA for their horses to race in sanctioned AQHA races, as do owners/breeders. If you’re calling that a direct tie, there is no choice for trainers/owners/breeders in that. Besides that, ‘out-cheat’ them how? No other organization sanctions quarter horse racing.

          • El Espresso

            I love how you say a lot of them don’t have anything to do with racing BUT a LOT of them do !! (Farms, studs, yearling sales …) How to out-cheat ?? C’mon now …Direct ties …c’mon now….this is not s site to name names…but yes direct ties to leadership of AQHA (past and present ) !! So the ones that ARE involved in racing ARE doing exactly what I said ….remember denial is the root cause for most failures.

          • El Espresso

            Out-cheat means the competitions dope is better than theirs….just look at three years ago when less than popular folks were winning….then all you heard from AQHA was we are cleaning this up !!! now when the popular folks are winning …..crickets !!

        • Yes, the AQHA is not a friend to the horse. They encourage multiple foals from mares per year from surrogacy (I believe the number is 5). They are pro-slaughter as that is where they send their culls. The heavily encourage breeding. Like so many others, it appears to be all about money.

        • ben

          That is true, Ray. And there is nothing more to say about it.
          I do hope that Texas will put up very fierce actions against the bespoken trainers

        • Tres Abagados Stupidos

          Right you are. If you look back at their racing director’s blog a few days after all this new broke about the bad tests you will see her say in the opening paragraph “Let’s focus on the positive things happening in QH racing” (using the word positive was kind of ironic) The AQHA has it’s head in the sand on this one big time.

          • El Espresso

            I think Judd trains a few horses for some of their “distant cousins” and the AQHA folks just want the positive looked at so that this hopefully blows over quickly and their er I mean their cousins horses can get back to running and promoting breeding fees, yearlings etc…

        • Teddy

          Ray, is the Jockey Club the leader of the Thoroughbred horse industry?

          • RayPaulick

            No one in Thoroughbred racing has the authority that the AQHA exerts in Quarter horse racing. The Jockey Club is probably as close as anyone to a “leader” in the Thoroughbred industry.

          • Teddy

            I beg to differ, they have know authority over any racing jurisdiction. I think it is kind funny, three trainers have positive for a class one drug and people on here are blaming AQHA.

          • kim

            Yes they got rid of med violation rule, with all judd had he wouldn’t have Been able to train with all
            His positives

          • Teddy

            That’s not true. AQHA has no authority over any par-mutual racing jurisdiction. Yes, they do sanction non par-mutual races in states that do not have par-mutual racing.

          • kim

            The point of the comment was aqha makes rules on things then does away the rules , you are correct they have no power except for champions and finals of challenge races with hair tests( which is stupid because they don’t test in regionals . Aqha again should be a breed registry and that’s it.

        • kim

          Why hasn’t Janet made an announcement ? Yes ray all
          Silent except doc Allred at Los al

          • El Espresso

            Doc is the last real honorable person of any clout left in this sport… once he’s gone Los Al will implode and be sold off for high dollar Real Estate. The AQHA is on verge of imploding and can’t say I’ll be sad to see it go. Actually I’m going to enjoy it. I’ll probably attend the meeting where that tale is told. All the kings horses and all the kings men won’t be able to put it back together again.

        • snazzygirl

          You needn’t be quite so hard on the AQHA, Ray. At one time they issued a very strict medication policy and serious fines for trainers that were caught using illegal drugs. They then backed off from the policy, so you are correct that at this point they are pretty much silent on the issue. They are, however, spending a lot of effort in keeping track of and eradicating genetic diseases caused by in- and line-breeding…..something that the Jockey Club is not doing as far as I know. And there are a lot of in- and line-bred TBs.

          • kim

            Why don’t they test atbregional challenge races and yet do in finals ? It’s a joke out there that horses and I know one in particular running in refgional challenfe race with recent bad test, if wins would not pass hair test at finals . Not fair to horses running clean. It’s mentally challenging for a horse to run 3 and not beat a clenbuterol horse . Oh your 3rd place can go to
            Finals because you’re the first clean one , that’s messed up. Aqha has set precedence of clean finals, why not regionals ?

          • Jazzy

            Give me a break. The AQHA allows siblings to be bred in the 1st generation!! They only care about the fees they generate. They do absolutely nothing to better the breed or to cultivate new bloodlines. They allow overbreeding by breeders who then dump the resulting foals they don’t want in a kill pen. The AQHA has not one regulation that monitors this mass dumping & killing of unwanted foals. They allow unlimited embro transfers which is abusive to the mare when breeders pull fertilized eggs ALL year long. Can you imagine being made to cycle constantly so your eggs can be taken out. The AQHA a completely vile organization run by people who only care about money.

    • El Espresso

      No just another day on the mountain or at Sam Houston and at Retama in this case.

  • Nona Kaenel

    A little off subject but…..I’ve had horses for over 50 years. During that time I, personally, only know of ONE horse that suffered a heart attack and he was an older stud. With that in mind, is there a link to heart attacks in young racehorses and the use of some drugs? A side effect of this particular drug is increased heart rate so that makes me think what other drugs have the same side effect. It is beyond me how people who claim to love horses will do whatever it takes for a win. Fines are not enough. There should be more lifetime bans.

    • Big G

      ARE YOU COWBOY JACKS WIFE

    • Lehane

      Personally, I believe some drugs are the cause of cardiac failure. Cardiac arrhythmia is common in racehorses.

    • Blue Larkspur

      ya think?

    • Eric

      You may be aware that a very, very good quarter horse died of a heart attack after a race at Ruidoso on Labor Day weekend. In 2016, the horse lost a stakes win because he tested positive for stanozolol (a steroid). I am not a vet or a trainer but I would assume that horses are being pushed by medication to perform better than they are naturally physically able to, and sometimes this is the result.

  • Marlaine Meeker

    When are we going to wake up? How long really can horse racing endure with this happening. And I mean all racing. If the QH people are doing it,so are the TB’s. What are the bettors to think? Or the animal right people. They reach a lot more people than the racing industry. With this kind of ammo, how are we going to bring in new people to the sport? Lord what a mess, that frankly I as a lifetime follower of the sport, I am sick and tired of trying to defend. And if it’s not this issue, there is plenty more and the industry seems incapable of making across the board changes to help it’s own self. I can bet on that. And get some good odds.

    • Blue Larkspur

      It is indefensible as it stands …. time to clean house, thoroughly

  • The purpose of lawyers defending the guilty was never meant to get them off. This truly goes against justice. Lawyers were appointed to the guilty (or the presumed guilt) to make sure their rights were protected, to make sure they weren’t railroaded, and that proceedings were carried out legally. When it all became twisted I don’t know, but I’m pretty sure money had something to do with it.

  • snazzygirl

    I applaud the Texas Racing Commission for upholding the suspensions. I hope the New Mexico Racing Commission does the same. If the hearings present clear evidence that the trainers are ‘guilty’ as charged, then AQHA should permanently revoke their memberships. Then they will never be able to train another horse that will be able to run in an AQHA sanctioned race. And if quarter horses can’t race in AQHA-sanctioned races, then they are competing on bush tracks and can receive no points/awards for racing, not even a speed index.

    • El Espresso

      They go home and train from their training centers, then send the horses to track via assistant trainers who really aren’t their assistant trainers and then the owners who claim they want to clean this sport up send their training bills to the barred suspended trainer and then do their level best to sound like they want to clean this sport up at all the AQHA meetings.

      • Eric

        A representative of the public facing arm of AQHA tweeted Judd Kearl last week to wish him luck in a stake race that one of his former horses was racing in. I thought that was nauseating, but also telling of what really is going on with the Padgett/Kearl barn, as well as an indicator of just how angry the AQHA is with Kearl (apparently, they are not too upset at all).

        • snazzygirl

          First of all, none of the horses that competed in those races were ones that tested positive for illegal drugs. So should those owners and horses be maligned because Judd supposedly (until proven otherwise in a hearing) gave illegal drugs to other horses in his racing stable? I think not. To assume AQHA is not upset with Judd is a gross generalization. AQHA is thoroughly aware of the negative press Judd has given them, especially since he was named a champion trainer.

          • Eric

            Well, I think you CAN make the argument that Judd’s owners should be maligned for staying with his racing program in light of what has happened. I realize its a business decision (and probably a good business decision) but if I owned horses running in that barn, even if they weren’t horses that tested positive in Texas, I would personally want to disassociate with a racing operation that has demonstrated once again what its all about.

            But my main point is that when a representative of the AQHA is still wishing Judd well several weeks after his suspension, its totally inappropriate. Everyone from the AQHA should be completely turning their backs on Kearl, not throwing him any verbal bouquets.

            I realize I am kind of stretching it to take one tweet from 1 person, and make that out to be representative of the AQHA’s take on things… but it really bothered me to read that. The same lady said something like “we all really miss Heath around the racetrack” on Delta’s simulcast in July in reference to Heath Taylor, who is serving a 5 year ban. Come on. No well wishes and empathy for the sport’s criminals, please, fro anyone that represents AQHA.

          • Scoot

            I thank you and El Espresso for speaking the truth. It seems no one in this business has any shame for cheating.

          • snazzygirl

            On that last point, I agree with you. Nobody should be missing Heath Taylor on the track.

            Don’t know if you know this, and you will probably be incensed again, but Jimmy Padgett (Judd’s asst trainer) won the All American Derby, the All American Futurity, and the All American Juvenile last weekend. Don’t know when that has ever happened before that one trainer won all three races. One thing I’m pretty sure of is that the New Mexico Racing Commission, along with Ruidoso, made sure the horses were all racing clean. I really hope that was the case. Hopefully, if the horses had any illegal drugs in their systems, it will become known to the public.

            Racing is on a precarious cliff, for many reasons. Because of that I hope the commissions and race tracks don’t hide information from the public.

          • Eric

            Well aware of Padgett’s Labor Day weekend success. He won the All American Gold Cup too. No photo needed in any of the 4 races. And he may have left his best 2yo in the barn (Eagle Jazz). Padgett is now an allowance win away from being the #2 trainer by earnings in the country in 2017 (behind you know who).

            I agree that the NMRC and Ruidoso tried to ensure that all runners were clean. We may never know how clean they really were… I am sure they don’t have tests for everything that people are trying to use.

            I am glad that the Kearl/Stroud/Sanchez cases became public for the same reason as you.

          • kim

            Ya gotta know ( quote from Ryan shults ) what you’re looking for first , mad chemist will always have a new drug

          • kim

            Then don’t give him any championships with anynhorses he’s trained. I thought that was in the rules.

        • kim

          Martha claussen should be fired from aqha as a consultant . She’s an embarrassment to all writers

          • El Espresso

            Careful now you know she’s an untouchable

          • kim

            Wait yes she is

      • snazzygirl

        Sounds like you’re upset with what you perceive is going on. So did you stand up in an AQHA meeting and express your displeasure? You are able to do so at meetings during the annual convention. You can also contact the AQHA representative in your area to complain about what you think is going on, along with listing specific individuals. Did you do that?

        • El Espresso

          Why should I have to go to the meetings and complain…Why should anybody have to do that IF the leaders of the AQHA would just do their jobs!! The test barns around the country are giving them (AQHA) way more ammo than a few individuals complaining at their meetings. The folks complaining at the meetings are simply looked down on as pesky little noise makers. The labs are presenting hard scientific evidence and the AQHA simply wants to look at the positive???? Really !!

        • kim

          First of all
          It’s the good ol boys club , aqha had a great med violation deal going but got rid of it,

    • kim

      According to teddy they don’t need to be aqha licensed to train

      • snazzygirl

        Anybody can ‘train’ a horse if they want to run in a desert somewhere.

        • kim

          Thank you my point is made , he said aqha is not involved

  • Scoot

    El Espresso has done their homework. You’re exactly right that it’s the wealthy owners who are financing these dirty trainers. Judd was the number one buyer at the Ruidoso Select Sale because owners are still flocking to him and he’s not scared of being totally shut down. These people have no morals and definitely no love for horses…they will do whatever it takes to win. Judd will continue to train with a program trainer just like he did at Ruidoso. The New Mexico Racing Commission claims to have hair tested all the qualifiers. You tell me how horses from barns belonging to Judd Kearl and other trainers of qualifiers to the All American tested positive on random hair testing but those qualifiers were megative. Do you really think a trainer is going to administer clenbuterol to just a portion of his barn? The commission was too scared to end up with a four horse field in the biggest quarter horse race of the year. If they were really serious about cleaning this what bigger statement could they have made? I applaud the Texas Racing Commission but also believe it’s time for them to look into getting rid of clenbuterol like Oklahoma and New Mexico have. Hair testing of all potential entries before they run in the trials of these big stakes races is the only way to truly clean this up.

    • Tres Abagados Stupidos

      I am one that is hoping they hang Kearl, Sanchez and Stroud out to dry for the rest of their possible training lives but I will say that the two horses that Kearl had that tested positive in the hair testing were not really his. One was from the Heath Taylor/Micheal Taylor/Bruce Bell barn in Louisiana so you know that one had to have a high amount of Clen. in its’ system and the other one was from Jose Sanchez so that one too was more than likely full of Clen. as well. Just wanted to clarify that.

    • snazzygirl

      You forgot that Los Alamitos also banned clenbuterol. In fact, Allred banned it before any other racetrack/racing commission did.

      • kim

        Yes Allred was brilliant , which is why many won’t come for our big races as they know they can’t pass hair tests and or urine and blood. Can’t wait til the next phase of testing

  • Tim Grant

    I lawyer offering hearsay evidence that supports his client? Glad that the commission didn’t buy it.

  • Eric

    Do you race? Do you train horses or even have horses?

    • kim

      Yes he does

  • Permitted pre-race Lasix engenders and facilitates this doping behavior by veterinarians and trainers.

  • disgusted

    I have used nomifensine on a horse that we thought had narcolepsy, it worked. The horse would fall asleep standing up and fall to the ground. We administered it according to a study that was done back east by a Vet at a clinic, using 6 horses in her experiment. All but one were 100% cured in the followup of a 6 month study. The one that she did not get a conclusion on did not finish the program and she had no way to do a final diagnosis. If this drug works why is it blacklisted?

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