Repole on disclosure: No

by | 04.27.2011 | 7:09am

Mike Repole, the owner of Uncle Mo, claimed in a media teleconference yesterday that “everybody has been talking about full disclosure” when it comes to the physical condition of his once-beaten champion colt.

He then went on to lecture members of the racing press about what their role should be: “…the media has to do a better job of [presenting] more positive stories,” he said. “Why do we only get the negative stories? … If you start disclosing every single thing about horse racing, whether it's horse rescue, issues with horses, or suspensions … there are so many positives about this sport that we don't focus on.”

And I thought Repole made his money peddling VitaminWater. Sounds to me like he's been drinking Kool-Aid.

But it's only a few of us media deadbeats that Repole doesn't like.

“I'm very accommodating, and 99% of the media, I love you guys,” Repole continued. “It's that 1% that is so negative of the sport and really ruin it for everybody else—that 1% that announced his retirement or that [Uncle Mo] came in basically lame. That 1% really bothers me.”

(Click here to read all of Repole's comments on the subject.)

I'm not sure who the “everybody” is that Repole said has been talking about full disclosure. The Paulick Report recently brought up the subject of the American Thoroughbred industry's propensity for avoiding veterinary transparency — whether it's minor procedures to straighten crooked legs on foals so they can bring more money at public auction, the removal of bone chips in knees and ankles of horses in training, or the medication records of horses who compete in a highly regulated gambling industry where integrity is of utmost importance.

Uncle Mo was used as an example in the article. (Click here to read). I pointed out several physical issues concerning the colt that many people are wondering about: the pinfiring marks on his shins, the shaved area below his right knee, and the apparent work done on a hoof wall. I then compared how issues like this are handled with complete transparency in the world's most successful racing market, Hong Kong, with the veil of secrecy that is generally used by veterinarians and trainers in American racing, a sport that is in a downward spiral both in its public image and its economic outlook.

I respect Mike Repole. He puts up his money, has tremendous enthusiasm for the game, and shows compassion for the people and horses who make it great. I have no reason to question his personal integrity.

Repole doesn't need to disclose anything about Uncle Mo or any of his other horses to me or anyone else. But this is a subject that cuts at the heart of racing's problems. We are on shaky ground, living in an era when people's confidence in the sports world has been damaged by countless scandals and the emphasis has been on more disclosure — not less. Circling the wagons and saying “it's none of your business” is the way racing has handled many of its problems in the past.  And I don't think that is working out very well.

  • Coach K

    The NFL has more disclosure of injury info than horse racing – what does that tell you?

  • luke

    Horse racing needs to wash its dirty laundry not store it in some closet. The public, governmental regulatory bodies and one’s legitimate fellow horse competitors insist upon it. Too many years of non-disclosure and “mind your own business” will make it a difficult but doable task.

  • David

    Albeit unpublished, part of the Vegas attraction has always been the underlying “darker” side of sin city. The white tie guys tried on the family blanket but ultimately decided they were better off with the previous perception. Not too many informed individuals will argue that racing’s reputation, as an insiders’ game isn’t earned. Racing’s attempt to transcend the gambling audience has generally failed. Transparency surrounding a runner’s condition won’t help either. Problem is that guys like Repole are anything but charming.

  • Swamp Fox

    I need to see Uncle Mo’s birth certificate. Somethin’ ain’t right here…

  • New Jersey Jake

    Didn’t you have a poll on this recently?

  • bookiebuster1

    Thou protest too much….

  • knowitall

    Just lost alot of respect for Mike Repole.

  • Coach K-
    You’re absolutely right and the NFL has a Commissioner too.

  • Kris S

    Repole said: “I will give you every medical record from weanling to three-year-old of Stay Thirsty and Uncle Mo under one condition: all 18 other owners [in the Derby] have to do the same thing.”

    I agree with his position on that issue.

  • Whomadeyousheriff

    “Sounds to me like he’s been drinking Kool-Aid.”

    LOL!!! This from the stool pigeon mouthpiece of the TOC. If you’re so interested in saving the game rather than pumping up your readership with salacious B.S., then we all expect to see you at the CHRB meeting tomorrow to pontificate about veterinary transparency. While you’re at it, bring over a can of that TOC Kool Aid you’ve been sampling for the past few years.

  • trackman

    Be careful here folks and don’t press this issue.
    Racing has many, many, many, dirty little training secrets that some may consider inhumane even it “helps” the horse.
    Disclosing everything will certainly kill of the sport faster than a speeding Mo.

  • Tinky

    “…the media has to do a better job of [presenting] more positive stories,” he said. “Why do we only get the negative stories?”

    Absolutely idiotic. That’s precisely the approach that the industry has emphasized during its deep decline over the past 30 years, and yet this billionaire entrepreneur suggests doubling down.

    Setting aside the ‘full transparency’ issue, though, of course he is refusing to release information, as that would lead to an admission that UM underwent surgery over the winter, which would in turn reflect very poorly on both him and his trainer.

    Owner of the highest profile horse in the country, a horse which was the heavy favorite in Derby future books, bet off the board in his first two starts at three, and yet in order (presumably) to further enhance his fortune, Repole had no problem surpressing significant medical information that would have allowed those who support the game to make informed decisions.

    And Ray has “no reason to question his personal integrity.”

    Excellent.

  • Ray Paulick

    New Jersey Jake …

    Yes, we did have a survey on veterinary disclosure. 75% of the nearly 700 respondents voted in favor of increased transparency.

    Whomadeyoursheriff…

    I oppose the position has taken on several recent issues, including reducing the permitted levels of Bute, and their representative’s “no” vote on an NTRA board resolution to support a phase-out of raceday medication.

    I wish the TOC would come out for more disclosure on vet issues, but I’m not going to hold my breath.

  • Michael

    Dialed In missed a work in Florida, noone has reported why. Nehro crawled across the finish line in his 2nd start and has been fantastis since then. Noone has reported what, if anything, was done to him to help aid this total turnaround.
    This is pure garbage. If you actually cared about transparency you’d be on the phone asking the other 18 owners and trainers to disclose the entire vet histories of their animals. You won’t do that because you know they’d all tell you what Repole just did. Its just more fun to make the brash billionaire from NYC the whipping boy on this issue than it would be to do it to anyone else. Isn’t that really what this is all about?

  • stillriledup

    Its time for the Ky racing commission to get involved here. Another Eight Belles situation is looming. Repole obviously has something to hide and his trainer is a snake in the grass who was a major culprit in the embarrassing Life at Ten situation.

    While i’m on the subject, why would Rick Dutrow get his license denied and Pletcher is still allowed to race?? Pletcher cheated in the Breeders Cup with that Wait a While a few years ago who came up positive and i’m sure that some of you can list Pletcher’s ‘violations’ he’s had over the years.

  • In Australia, any repair to a hoof with artificial material has to be reported. Would you bet on a horse if three out of four of his feet are made out of epoxy? Funny thing is, sometimes they win.

  • Michelle

    The whole article just seemed like an unnecessary rant. The more Repole dodges a straight answer, the more I fear a breakdown in the Derby.

  • stillriledup

    Michael #16, and here i was thinking that Rick Dutrow was the whipping boy. Silly me.

    We are not on the phone talking to other owners because those other owners horses didnt show up with shaved legs and pinfire marks. When they do, we will make the call.

  • Diplomat

    Just wondering- did half of these commenters even bother to click the link and read all of what Repole wrote? I’d start by doing that before commenting and risk sounding like an un-informed fool.

    I personally find it hard to disagree with anything Mike said in his commentary.

  • SixteenK Claimer

    Just like with our current President…this country is becoming a nation of liars and wimps and cowards…JUST like the individuals that infect the Horse Racing Industry with dishonesty. It becomes more difficult each and every day to be a fan of this industry. THOSE are the facts. And they can be proven.

  • kyle

    First of all, I don’t know what competitive disadvantage it would put the Mo camp at by being more forthcoming. It’s really disingenuous to say we’ll do it when the others do it – disingenuous and a bit juvenile. That said, it’s their horse, there are no rules of full-disclosure but there should be some consequence some reaction to their attitude. I hope this will put an end to any stories about how good Repole is for racing and further erode Pletcher’s reputation.

  • tcpagent

    When an owner maintains a high profile when his horse is successful, whoever the horse may be, I believe that same owner has a responsibility to maintain that high profile through full disclosure when things aren’t going so well. Failing to do so, their silence speaks volumes, in my opinion.

  • stillriledup

    tcp, great post. Repole was a ‘funny guy’ at the awards dinner accepting an honor (see: people are really nice guys when things are going well) and now, we have this.

    I liked Repole, but now, i’m not so sure he’s a good guy. All his talk about the fans and whatnut, didnt he come out at the eclipse awards and make a special mention about the fans of this great game and whatnut?

    True colors are coming out.

  • Kelso

    “Everyone stand in a circle. And FIRE!”

    Friends, I know Mike Repole personally. He is a great guy, generous with time and treasure, and good for the sport. He’s not an Ernie Paragallo, Mike Ivarone, or Michael Gill. Remember his donation of $50,000 after the Breeders Cup? I DO.

    You want full disclosure? GOOD!

    Then go ahead and establish a FEDERAL Agency and set up Hong Kong style rules. Rules that force deadbeat owners to pay the Jockey Club for training bills, feed, and vet bills. The agency will be tasked with biometric scanners on the backstretch ala Hong Kong and will disclose in the betting program all drug use and surgeries 120 days from a race.

    UNTIL the Kentucky hardboots get behind the establishment of a FEDERAL Agency and Czar (Peter Ueberroth perhaps) GET THE HELL OFF OF MIKE REPOLE’S BACK.

    Leave it to our beloved sport to create this drama Derby-eve.

    Let’s continue with this bilge and drive off a true Horatio Alger success story out of the sport. There are plenty of 42 year old billionaires willing to take his place ;)

    ANYONE has complaints with this……SUPPORT FEDERAL INTERVENTION NOW!

  • Mike R

    The pin firing marks and shaved area on his other leg have nothing to do with the other entrants in the race and Uncle Mo is/was the leading candidate for the race until just recently. Any horse in that position will naturally get greater scrutiny and rightly so. The if everyone else will do it statement was very disappointing. In prior posts I have said that Mike Repole is easy to root for–for me that has just become somewhat more difficult. Mike, why not give some horses to Nick Zito. I have followed the game for over 40 years and believe that if an owner has enough money to own numerous horses he/she is best served by using multiple trainers. Different trainers seem to do better with certain types of horses and, at the same time, it keeps everyone on their toes.

  • Cris

    Sorry to hear all this before the Derby. If pin fired, Mo would certainly not be the first or last horse to be pin fired and there are no rules against it. If they were checking the horse for a knee problem they would have shaved the hair. No rule broken there. I really don’t think if all the rules that are already on the books are followed people don’t need to know everything.
    My reason is since I have been following racing for over five decades, I have never felt I could not understand what was going on with the horse enough to figure if I wanted to bet on him or not. Which is what most of the public wants to know. The knee jerk reactions of treatments given a horse that go like a flu over the internet does not do the sport, the horse, or the fan, any good. When Slew was young he used to walk into walls and his one leg turned out. The fact that his legs were so long he had a little trouble untangling them for a while, but what a mess the web could have made of the Slew crew. I am all for ruling off drugs on race days. I am against casual fans messing around with peoples lives who work seven days a week and every holiday, far more dedication to a job than many of they themselves have, with flip remarks that can be dead wrong but if picked up and said over and over can be believed as the truth. There is a happy medium to be reached and the first step is to make national not regional medication rules that forces trainers to race healthy horses off medication. After that, many of the problems will fix themselves.

  • Kelso

    @Mike R….

    Found a company and sell it to Coca-Cola for $4.4 billion before your 40th birthday.

    Then YOU can place your horses with whomever you want.

    Mike Repole has THREE trainers. He can have 1 or 100 trainers, that’s his prerogative NOT YOURS!

  • 2sunroofsue

    The Derby is a gruelling test of a horse barely three years old. By both Pletcher and Repole’s admission, this horse in not 100%. Baffert will not enter The Factor, because missing one race will likely ensure a longer, healthier career. Why not leave Uncle Mo in the barn so he can play another day?

  • Leslie

    “Repole doesn’t need to disclose anything about Uncle Mo or any of his other horses to me or anyone else. But this is a subject that cuts at the heart of racing’s problems.”

    Seriously? Racing has been carried on in this country for 300 years and now, suddenly, owners and trainers should be obliged to disclose information about their horses to the public because of what has happened in other sports?

    You’re right that neither Repole (nor any other owner, I might add) needs to disclose any information about his horse that he doesn’t want to disclose. At it’s core this is a competitive sport, so until there’s a regulatory body and rule that mandates it, and/or the fans or the media start paying the horse’s training, vet and farrier bills, it’s nobody’s damn business what permitted therapeutic treatments are administered to any race horse.

    Would it be beneficial for there to be more disclosure in racing, certainly, but it’s not mandatory yet and until it is…case closed. No one should insist that Mike Repole be the disclosure sacrificial lamb here. He has the right to privacy for his horse and its condition until and unless the horse is not able to compete. Just because certain media outlets won’t leave the subject alone, doesn’t mean he is obliged to indulge them in providing information that no other trainer of a Derby contender is being so relentlessly hounded to reveal.

  • Noelle

    Mike Repole is probably the great, generous guy he appears to be, but what is in Uncle Mo’s medical history that he doesn’t want to disclose? No doubt whatever’s been done to Uncle Mo is no more than what’s been done to all the other Derby-bound horses – but that doesn’t mean it’s right or good.

    The NYT posted I Want Revenge’s vet bills from the period between the Wood and the Derby, (the bills were entered into evidence in a lawsuit) Vets who testified about those bills said they were “typical for a race horse in training” – which was an eye-opening statement. Apparently a race horse in training is regularly dosed or injected with all sorts of drugs – including steroids and painkillers – while being sent out to work. A few days before the Derby, IWR posted a bullet work running on a leg that was shot up with steroids/painkillers. Small wonder he came up lame on Derby day.

    The IWR medical team gave that horse anything that had a chance of getting him to the track. What they didn’t do was allow him to heal. Heaven only knows what his entire medical history contained – years of medications, procedures, and who knows what.

    So with all due respect to Mike Repole, the reason these negative stories continue is that everyone knows American horses are way over medicated and that the pursuit of short term success through “chemical warfare” has negative long term consequences.

    Stopping the chemical warfare and getting back to racing sound, healthy horses would improve racing’s image dramatically.

  • Missing Joe Hirsch

    People are missing a big point he was trying to make. And Ray you are guilty of it. It is the same mentality that sells the New York Post, The National Enquirer, and the mentality that watches the Jerry Springer show. Good stories don’t sell. Ray your Mike Gill controversy stories got more responses than any good will story you posted. I think turf writers of today are a big reason the sport is declining. They get their almighty pen (or keyboard) and post their personal inadequacies of life. I would guess 99% of the negative articles come from writers who are gamblers. Nothing more negative than a loosing gambler. I disagree with repole about his numbers, I would say 99% of racing media is bad and 1% is good. Racing needs a modern Joe Hirsch to help resuscitate the game. He never wrote a negative article. If it were a negative subject, he would put a positive spin on it. Looking for the positives in life and stop dwelling on the negative.

  • Glimmerglass

    Ah, poor Mike, not unlike Mo, from hero to zero with fickle fans. While posters here tend to be a critical bunch I suspect Mike and his overly chatty nature just makes for an easier target.

    The reality is if you went to almost any owner (or trainer) and tried to get in their business demanding explanations for everything you’d get push back too.

    I don’t care if its established and respected Augustin, Lael Stables or the Phipps Stable, the compelling requirement to disclose everything becomes limited when the questions are more intrusive.

    Just because an owner won’t tip his/her hand on everything doesn’t make it a foregone conclusion as being a coverup or nefarious. Even a trainer with a staunch position against drugs like Jack van Berg would be relatively tight lipped on his horses.

    There is a difference between a misleading answer when an inquiry is made vs. failing to disclose information that would be immediately relevant. I was burned a few years ago with Sweet Catomine in the SA Derby and the highly relevant info (on how she’d perform) being undisclosed by her connections. That is a far cry from say Mo ‘maybe’ having had some work in Nov in Florida. Mo ran his bland race in that glorified workout at Gulfstream and won. If bettors got burned in the Wood and want to suggest its because they didn’t know about his time in Ocala I think they’re grasping at straws.

  • manuelB

    I agree with Noelle’s excellent post. American racing has become incredibly insular and has lost touch with racing in most other jurisdictions. Getting rid of medication and veterinary warfare on the health of horses would be the first of many steps that need to be taken.

  • RUFingKidding

    Anyone calling for full disclosure doesn’t know or understand the business. And just because you went to the races a few times and picked up some catchy phrases, you still don’t know or understand horse training or racing.
    And I’ll repeat:

    I CAN”T WAIT FOR UNCLE MO TO WIN THE DERBY !!

  • Michael

    Sunroofsue it’s interesting that you brought up Baffert and The Factor. Baffert was totally transparent and nice enough to disclose to everyone exactly what affected The Factor in the Arkansas Derby and what procedure was performed afterwards to correct it. The guy is a hall of famer whose done incredible things with horses and certainly knows his horses and his craft. I’ve heard a slew of talking heads and media types discussing The Factor and many have mocked Baffert’s explanation. Just this morning I heard one “genius” on tv say that when he hears “excuses” like the one Baffert presented that he igonores it as irrelevent “coachspeak” that has no validity. I guess this guy whose probably never even touched a horse thinks he knows more about this horse and his condition than Baffert does. Typical ignorant media type of which racing has too many. I guess not being able to breathe while you run isn’t a “valid” excuse huh? I think the moral of this is that even when trainers or owners are completely transparent and explain a situation, many media types ignore what they say or mock it. Would that encourage you as an owner or trainer to disclose anything? When Tim Ritchey disclosed Afleet Alex’s lung infection after his dreadful Rebel loss he was greeted with 2 reactions for about 99% of the media. The first was outrage and finger pointing at Ritchey for screwing the bettors and running a sick horse. The second was to ridicule Ritchey and laugh at his “excuse” for a horse who had distance issues.
    What you have in the horse racing media are too many “handicappers” who pretend to be industry experts despite the fact that they know as much about horses as animals as I do about nuclear physics. Despite this ignorance about horses and training they feel qualified to bash guys as intelligent and accomplished as Bob Baffert when they give them an explanation about a horse.
    This doesn’t exactly promote transparency does it?
    The media has to accept their responsibility in this whole mess regarding the lack of transparency. Many media members are more interested in ripping people and reeling off one liners about how bad a horse is or how lame an excuse is than they are about reporting. Its sad.

  • Mike R

    #27 kelso– This is a board of opinions and I am expressing mine, unless of course you think I should not have that right and need to be a billionaire with horses of my own to participate. In that case there would not be many on this board. Oh, but wait, you know him personally so that makes your view the only one.

  • MikeeMike

    Don’t waste your $ betting him in the derby. I know a trainer very well on the ny circuit who told me his workout the other day before he left for churchill was poor. He didn’t gallop very well at all. Personally, I hope he stays in the Derby trail., as he will take alot $, forcing the odds on my horses higher.

  • SixteenK Claimer

    Until there is ONE set of rules for ALL of Horse Racing to follow and a “Commissioner” to enforce them…all these opinions and articles mean nothing.

  • voice of reason

    funny conversation if it weren’t so ****ing sad. Disclosure? This from the industry that is so “hush hush” about “drug warfare” that it couldn’t admit steroid abuse for decades until Dutrow opened up the issue?

    PUH-leeze.

  • Michael

    Voice of reason you forgot to add that when Dutrow was honest about steroid use he got crucified by the media. The week he admitted steroid use some other trainers were asked if they also used steroids and issued no comments, yet I don’t recall columns like this one crushing the no commenters.
    The sad part was that Dutrow’s honesty about the steroid matter was a key element in sweeping steroid reform that was a huge positive for the game. Instead of being commended for his honesty he was villified even further than he already was. Just another example of why I think that many media members speak out of both sides of their mouths. They say they want transparency but when someone is transparent they get crucified, mocked, or ridiculed.

  • Google Act 71

    I hate Vitamin Water. It’s way overpriced for the quality of the product.

  • Stephanie

    Remember when War Pass ran last @ Tampa I believe, and like as there leading him back to the barn Zito and LaPenta start talking to the media about how 4 days ago he had a fever and was on medication? Fans (bettors) Blew up-it was just like Life at Ten where if they had known something was up they wouldn’t have bet their $. Didn’t Sweet Catomine have some issue before the SA Derby that turned into such a Cluster**** that Wygod was talking about leaving racing in CA completely?

    Disclosure is a dirty word to everyone except the people who want to know.

  • Google Act 71

    Repole does have a good quote from the teleconference. “Racing is a great cure for overconfidence.” Very true statement.

  • GENXXX

    Journalists should be journalists and not try to be horsemen. If you don’t think there are problems with most athletes in professional sports….then I have a bridge for sale. The trainers who give pain meds, injections and “other” therapies to NFL-MLB-NBA players are NOT gonna tell the media anymore than Thoroughbred trainers are…so get over it. Last time I checked it, the only time pro athletes are vetted…and information might be released…. is when they are traded or injured to the point they can’t play. Then they release so & so tore an ACL & is gonna have surgery. Horses are vetted before EVERY performance. Please all journalists don’t forget…..you are reporting on events CREATED by others. You don’t have to believe what they tell you…if you have the balls….write an opinion piece, or better yet do investigative reporting & GO FIND OUT! This IS AMERICA…who’s stoppin’ ya? But don’t expect stakeholders IN THIS BUSINESS….AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL….WITH FUTURE MONEY AT RISK to make it easy for you! That is just LAZY!

  • steve

    Repole looks bad on this one.

  • thingsyoushouldknow

    If you call yourself a horse fan /and or a handicapper,then when you look at a horse that has been fired, you should immediatly think sore /bucked shins. If you see a plastic hoof, then you know the hoof needed repair. If there is a shaved area on the side of the foreleg, mid point between the knee and ankle there may have been a check ligament that needed addressing. All part of the analysis of looking at an athlete and discernimg strengths and weaknesses. This is all part of the puzzle. Horse owners don’t have to disclose a thing. It’s too bad , in this instance that Mr Repole said one thing and then did another. But fans need to fine tune their own observations. Nobody is going to lay their cards out on the table, especially in this business.

  • John

    Repole shoulda took his own advice and shut up, all he did was show himself to be another rich, green new owner.
    Talk about his horses and they’ll leave the barn, really?
    And the fawning comments about Dr. Allday’s assessment of his colt make me want to puke.

  • Swamp Fox

    Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.

  • Jon Rand

    Just a few points.
    One, most of these posts are reactions to Paulick’s somewhat misleading summary of Repole’s remarks and to comments reacting to other comments. (A frequent occurrence on this fine site.) Like Diplomat, I didn’t find the actual story all that controversial.
    Second, Repole makes a good point about owners of claimers. Can you really expect an owner who’s paid a ton of cash for surgery on a horse to offer full transparency when the horse returns in a claimer after a six-month layoff? More waiver claiming races might be an answer.
    Third, since I’m not a vet I hadn’t the faintest idea what to make of those voluminous vet notes from Hong Kong that were linked to by Ray. The only conclusion I could take from that long list of treatments is that I should never make another bet on a racehorse.

  • Barbara

    Hard to argue with his points, but want Repole to be a leader, not a follower. Most horses have had work done on them at some point. Don’t blame him for not wanting to be in the spotlight if he is the only one who disclosed on a very high profile horse.

    Amused that no one has asked why Dialed In works about as often as he races, though.

  • stillriledup

    Unclemo.com chaning their name to ihavesomethingtohide.com?

  • tonyaz

    The only transparency or disclosure in the Horse Racing Business is that no matter what part of the game you are in…..Fan, Bettor, Owner, Honest Horseman etc… You are guaranteed to lose your MONEY. When will people understand that racing is not about disclosure and honesty…its about taking as much money as you are willing to put into it. How soon we all forget about the LAT incident….of course nothing will ever become of that and once again Churchill Downs will be laughing all the way to the bank making their entire year off of basically 2 days of racing plus holding the infamous Breeders Cup. Cmon Mary Lou…give us another feel good speech.

  • stillriledup

    Repole makes the statement that if everyone else would disclose, HE would disclose. The only problem with that is that the public isnt interested in everyone else, they’re interested in Uncle Mo, the second coming (according to Durkin) of Secretariat.

    Uncle Mo is a story, he has a flamboyant owner, a website, a controversial and talented trainer and
    lots of press. Mike wants us to all love Uncle Mo, and that’s why we want to know everything about him.

    If you read between the lines, Repole is kind of saying that he won’t say what’s wrong with Mo because if he does and then the horse breaks down, they look like they put a dangerous horse on the track.

    If Mo does get injured in the race, Repoles ‘no comment’ is going to be more scrutinized than if he just said what was wrong with Mo in the first place.

    He’s created a firestorm and now i’m sure PETA is interested in what, if anything, is wrong with Mo.

    If we want to ask a question and have it answered by the owner, just answer the question truthfully, its not hard, just tell us what we want to know.

  • Albany

    Supposedly some trainers are using Equiox (Previcox; fibrocoxin) because it is supposedly not being tested for, works like bute but instead of causing stomach ulcers, occassionally causes bleading in the small intestine (intestinal bug?). Like bute it is a painkiller and allows sore horses to run with reduced pain. (deleted)

  • siberiandogs

    Stillriledup- Don’t even go there with the PETA crap. They don’t care about Uncle Mo, they hate all horse racing, dog racing, showing, pet ownership, etc.

    As for disclosure, as soon as the press start to pay Uncle Mo’s vet and training bills, they can have disclosure. This whole thing started with Life At Ten and that media fiasco. No, she never should have gone in the gate. However, I would fire a jock so fast your head would spin if he told the national media my horse wasn’t right but never came to me or the vet. Bettors were pissed, and had every right to be. Now, everyone expects owners to disclose every detail. No. Wrong. That is between the vet, owner, and trainer. If your any kind of handicapper, you will notice things like poor past performances and works, pin fire marks, etc, and bet your money accordingly.

  • stillriledup

    Actually, SD, i disagree.
    The customer is always right and the customer wants information.

    Think about it this way. Lets say a snake oil salesman comes knocking on your door and wants to sell you a product. You ask him, “sounds interesting, what ingredients are in that product” and guess what the salesman says,, “he says none of you’re business, when you pay the salaries of my team of ingredient experts, i’ll disclose them to you, but until then, its really none of your business whats in the product”

    If this conversation took place, would you buy this guys product? Highly doubtful.

    Its the same with racing, the consumer needs as much information as possible in order to make the most informed decision he can on his wager. If there’s information he wants but can’t get, he’s just guessing.

    Racing is hard to beat, and in order to even have a fighting chance, you need as much information as you need.

    The customer is always right and the customer wants the information.
    As far as PETA goes i agree, they hate horse racing, but this is exactly why we DONT want them involved. All Repole is doing is opening a can of worms.

  • Don Reed

    Mr. Repole has made an accusation in the heat of the moment – the quicksand foundation of which is the unethical attempt to use peer pressure in order to unfairly influence public opinion.

  • SteveG

    No disclosure, say Repole, except, of course, after The Wood. Then – a fount of information from the normally sphinx-like Pletcher. I’m surprised he didn’t hand active cultures out to the press to validate Mo’s bug.

    However, ask for a simple answer about what transpired in Ocala to dispel what he characterizes as malicious rumor-mongering & no comment.

    Excellent.

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  • ty…#43…#44…

  • Bob

    The problem with full disclosure: Fans aren’t vets…period. Anything you need to know about a horse can be weened from his pp’s. If a horse throws in a bad race and then gets a long lay off…you know that. What difference does it make what happened to him while he was off(tie down for a breathing problem, gelded, pinfired or chips removed). You’ll have the bad race and his workouts to handicap with. In this internet age rumor and distortions are facts. I think full disclosure might creat opportunities for more shennanigans. I’m a blogger or internet poster….I see a horse has a bad race and then gets chips removed go on this internet and create buzz that the horse and jockey only have 5 good legs between them and watch the odds go up…then I throw down some wagers on a horse that I have artificially increased the odds on with my lies.

    I think instead of full disclosure we need REAL penalties when people actually do things wrong. I am huge fan of not letting trainers switch horses to assistants while they serve suspensions. What if every horse in Doug O’Neils barn had to sit out a 6 month suspension with him. Do you think his owners would be so willing to look the other way? I also think they should make the trainers responsible to reimburse the pool if their horse is disqualified as a result of a drug positive. If I bet the 2 horse and he loses only later to be place 1st by disqualification. Everyone but the bettor is made whole. In this case the trainer would have to put up the total amount of money wagered on the horses that have been moved up. If you present a $2.00 win ticket you get your $2.00 back. There could be a six month period to claim your “refund” and then whatever money was left could be given to the TCA to be distributed as grants to horse rescues, rehabiliation, and retirement farms. How quick would a trainer be to cheat if he knew his actions could put him on the hook for a million dollars in a big race?

    How many of the other horses have been pinfired? Is a pinfiring really even an issue? How many of the last 50 Derby winners had the checkerboard shins? How many of the last 50 year end champions have been pinfired? How many horses in the Hall of Fame were pinfired? Pinfiring in and of itself does not mean anything but that the horse had a problem at some point. I think we need to realistically look at these things and not act like it is some out of the norm thing for a horse to be pinfired….seen Cigar’s legs?

    I think we need to worry about people who are actually doing things wrong and not try to destroy people who are just playing by the rules as they are. It is not fair to hold one owner to a higher standard than any other owner in the country. Repole is a good guy and a responsible owner. Why don’t we watch and see what happens with Mo between now and the Derby before we string him, his trainer, vets, and owner up.

  • GENXXX

    I still think Uncle Mo might get it done Derby Day. Did he run up to spec in the Wood…NO. But when I look at it beyond the speculation of anything physical…..maybe with his soft program he just wasn’t up to the 2 turns the first time? Maybe now he really is on track? I guess you gotta like Dialed In….his running style was good in the Fla. Derby…..but it wasn’t that great of a race. Both the Fla. Derby & Wood ran in around 50….so nothing fantastic. It just seemed like there was so much of a gap between Mo & the rest of these after last season!

  • stillriledup

    Bob 61, i disagree with your comment when you say what difference does it make. For the Derby, it makes a difference. Many owners will go to the Derby no matter what, they will convince themselves their horse is ready to win and take that shot, i’d like to know specifically what happened, you cant ever have enough info.

  • Tim G

    Full disclosure would ruin the claiming game. How else could you jam a lame horse down someones throat other than to have “Dr. Stickem” swing by the barn on race day and ease the pain.

  • HELL OF A GOOD POINT #61…ty…

  • common sense

    Not only are the fans NOT entitled to full disclosure- It would be impossible to police! I’d like to meet the moron that honesty thinks that ALL horsemen(R dutrow a good example) will report EVERY surgery, medication treatment, and injection on every horse in his/her barn at all times! Are you for real?

    And to the clowns that won’t bet another horse race without full disclosure.. I assume this means you will never bet another football, baseball, basketball game, and others.. you will never buy a house or a car and you’ll never get a pet from the pound…

    WHY?! No full disclosure! Quit sniffing the hot air your producing!

  • McGov

    Repole is on the money. Do we need to know that Mo was pin fired? What if he was blistered instead and there were no scars to speculate over…feel better?
    North American racing is all about money. International racing is a balance of money and prestige. Lets not kid ourselves and think otherwise. If they take Lasix away from trainers you will see some whack job revert back to the old school methods of withdrawing water for 48 hours. We need big time changes but taking away a valuable tool like Lasix is just another example that REAL CHANGE is somewhere down the road. For now, it’s more dog and pony show.

  • stillriledup

    Mcgov, you seem to be implying that its no big deal whether he was pinfired, Blistered or something else. If its no big deal, why didnt Repole just say what happened? Why act like you have something to hide.
    ?

  • McGov

    I didn’t mean that it is “no big deal”…just very common..I don’t agree with pin firing or blistering or freezing or training on bute or any number of unethical means that are common among horsemen that train claiming horses… or it would seem even champions. I think Repole accurately describes my own sentiments on the subject of full disclosure…ignorance is bliss…we don’t really want to know how horsepeople keep their horses together during training regimes that are often too ambitious for a horse that is 80% healthy…the public likely doesn’t want to know the inner workings of a chicken farm either but we sure love to throw those feathery guys on the BBQ.

  • Tommy T.

    How could Repole”disclose” anything? I doubt Pletcher tells him anything like that…

  • YEA WELL THE HOLE F…ING WORLD IS ABOUT “THE MONY”!!!…BABY…ty…

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