Putting California Sudden Death Numbers in Perspective

by | 06.20.2013 | 1:51pm

At the April 11 meeting of the California Horse Racing Board, commissioner Bo Derek, chairman of the regulatory agency's Medication and Track Safety Committee, in reviewing the sudden deaths of Thoroughbred racehorses at California tracks said that “no trainer or trainers have been mentioned in our discussions of sudden deaths.”

Derek's statement overlooked the numbers from one barn that was responsible for almost one in five of the state's entire sudden death toll.

The CHRB reported that, from July 1, 2011, through March 31, 2013, 36 horses died from sudden death, defined by the regulatory agency as a healthy horse that dies during or within an hour of racing or training as the result of something other than a musculoskeletal injury.

Seven of those 36 dead horses came from the barn of trainer Bob Baffert.

Baffert has many horses in his care, so it might be worthwhile to put some perspective on those numbers. The Paulick Report researched the matter and came up with the following:

—During the period July 1, 2011, through March 31, 2013, 220 individual horses made 832 starts in California for trainer Baffert. Seven of his horses died a sudden death (heart attack, pulmonary hemorrhage, etc.). That is a ratio of one sudden death per 31.4 horses or one for every 119 starts in California.

—During the period July 1, 2011, through March 31, 2013, 590 other trainers had 8,759 individual horses make 53,562 starts. Twenty-nine of those horses died a sudden death, a ratio of one sudden death per 302.0 horses or one for every 1,847 starts.

—Looked at another way, one trainer with 2.5% of the horses and 1.5% of the total starts has had 19.4% of the sudden deaths over a 21-month period.

It isn't clear whether the CHRB is conducting an active investigation into what may have caused what the agency's equine medical director, veterinarian Rick Arthur, called an “anomaly” in regard to the Baffert horses.

An April 12, 2013, a statement from Baffert, issued by public relations/ crisis management firm Englander, Knabe & Allen, stated both Derek and Arthur “have made it clear that nothing I have done has caused any horse I have trained to suffer equine sudden death syndrome.”

That statement would suggest the matter is closed.

  • Carol

    Ray, How about a comparison with other states- 36 horses is shockingly high. What is the withdrawl time for clenbuterol in CA?

    • Guest

      Effectively, 21 days. And they just essentially agreed to continue this in today’s meeting. http://www.drf.com/news/new-clenbuterol-rules-effect-california

    • Performance Genetics

      In a previous post related to this I mentioned that there is a 2010 peer reviewed study on sudden death in Thoroughbreds in the Equine Veterinary Journal. Aortic rupture, which is anecdotally thought to be a common cause of exercise-related sudden death in horses, occurred in only 1% (2/268) of cases. While Aortic rupture is a common side effect for clenbuterol misuse, if the sudden deaths are cardiac related, it is unlikely that clenbuterol is the culprit.

      Clenbuterol is a great drug when used sensibly for the right purpose, but when misused it has performance enhancing (steroidal) effects which is why the RTMC withdrawal recommendations are as far out as they are.

      • betterthannothing

        PG, clenbuterol is known to damage the cardiac muscle. How can its extra-label use and abuse as a non-steroidal anabolic and stimulant not be tied to heart attack?

        • Performance Genetics

          I’m not saying it is not, just that the data puts it as one of the lower risks. Clenbuterol abuse usually results in colic attacks and does more damage to the liver causing renal failure and Rhabdomyolysis in front of any cardiac issues.

  • MSD

    For the CHRB not to investigate more thoroughly is an absolute joke and an embarrasment. No wonder certain people who don’t know anything about racing think it’s so screwed up; because certain things in the buisness right now are screwed up.
    7 horses in that short of a time span don’t just die coincidentally. I worked for a trainer at one time and he told me that since his 30+ years of training, just 3 horses in his care died of sudden deaths.
    Imagine if this happened in another country. Racing officials would be all over it. I don’t think it will happen, but American needs to have harsher punishments and less chances for drugs, etc.

    • mike g rutherford

      I have been racing for 40 years & never had a slow horse hurt them self. The ones that can really run are the ones that get hurt just like having a Ford with 700hp, there are just so many races in them. What other country are you talking about, England ? Why since England just really started testing, England has had, well all most, as many scandals as your president Obama ! European horses ship in for their races & you do not know what medication they get on their private grounds. We have the most policed sport in the US and the world. That is why European and other countries buy so many horses here– US raced horses are tough.

      • betterthannothing

        The CHRB might have ended its investigation because it knows what caused those deaths.

        “you do not know what medication they get on their private grounds”

        True, but we don’t know what medication our horses get either since medical and medication records are secret and cheaters stay ahead of tests. HK racing is far better policed than US racing.

        • mike g rutherford

          You are right I can not speak for CHRB but I have lots of trainer friends in HK & they think we are naive. Have you read about all the medication problems in HK going on now? They are way behind us in testing equip.,just like behind us in human test equip. We have more heart scans, x-ray equip., etc. in Houston alone we have more human medical equip. than all of Europe and I am sure it’s the same in California as Houston. Have you ever looked at the European teeth? If they can’t even fix their own teeth what kind of high- tech equip. testing do you really think they have for their horses, besides they only race their horses 3 or 4 times a year. How many times did the so called great Frankal race in 2012(3 or 4)? Houston’s medical center has about 200,000 people working & 60 percent of their business is English,Canadian & foreigners in general. HK does not have the horse testing equipment we process.

          • betterthannothing

            I don’t have lots of trainer friends in HK so sadly we must be naive. Apparently, we have been naive about Dubai racing too, based on recent stories re. anabolic steroids and Dubai banning them now. Since all equestrian competitions during the 2008 Beijing Olympic Games took place in HK, at least one lab must have received the latest and best drug-testing equipment, albeit 5 years ago.

            One should not compare one continent’s orthodontics with its ability to test for drugs in horse racing. Doping prevention depends on the will to be clean and power given to the authority to police that sport.

            Racing has never been clean. Dope is very hard to catch but out of competition testing, blood/biological passports established well before horses begin to race and a safe whistle blower system would boost integrity. Above all, doping prevention should include the expertise (and fear) of an anti-doping agency like the USADA, constant security and surveillance for competitive horses, tight medication control, transparent medical and medication records and severe punishments for abusers and cheaters.

            Houston’s world famous medical center does not mean that all (5?) testing labs hired by the American racing industry are better than European labs, the number of samples tested is adequate, testing is uniform and thorough enough to catch most dopers.

  • GreggJ

    Baffert has “2.5% of the horses and 1.5% of the total starts and has had 19.4% of the sudden deaths over a 21-month period” and the CHRB considers the matter closed? What a sad and tragic joke.

    The CHRB should be embarrassed, and Baffert is just plain embarrassing.

    • HogHater

      Next thing you’ll be telling me is that Baffert can’t win a race in So. Cal during the highly scrutinized Breeder’s Cup weekends or that his barn’s performance shipping out-of-state seems to have diminished in the past couple of years.

  • PG

    Why no mention of Alonso Orozco or Ruidoso in this article?

    • Charles Mcginnes

      I don’t think Ray’s statistics include Quarter Horses as that would really skew his numbers.

  • Andrew A.

    As we all know the numbers are startling. I don’t expect a resolution and don’t trust the CHRB investigation.

    • HogHater

      Followed your lead and shut down a certain ADW account this morning. Keep up the good work.

  • Ben van den Brink

    To me this seems like the ” old boys” etc. Lightning might struck you once but not seven times.

  • First Watcher

    Bo Derek and David Israel–the ‘Hollywood’ appointees–should resign. Their personal relationship with BB, or any other trainer for that matter, clearly impedes their objectivity in digging for the truth.

    • mike g rutherford

      Bo Derek could investigate me anytime! Even at an older age she still looks WOW.

      BB may be a great trainer but he can not handle handle that, even if he dreamed he could, that good looking wife of his would kill him. Come on now guys lighten up your jealousy slip is showing.

    • Red Rider

      You obviously overlook the fact that at fifteen Bo ran off to a foreign country with a man more than twice her age. She likely used the opportunity to study at the Sorbonne and Cambridge having foreseen that a future CHRB appointment would require a trained intellect.

      Just because Israel attended Dr. Buddy Rydell’s anger management sessions does not make him “Hollywood”.

      I also agree with mike g. rutherford.

  • James D. Jimenez

    Shouldn’t someone tell Bob: Put that in your pipe and smoke it?

  • Anton Chigurh

    10 is the only number that has any significance with regard to Bo and that was 30 years ago.

  • Guy Fleegman1

    Bo Derek? LMAO

  • Richard C

    There are plenty of cowards and bullies in this ongoing narrative.

    • Guy Fleegman1

      Is that you Richie Shapiro??? Don’t you have some cars to scrape with keys in the parking lot???

  • Yo soy fiesta

    Getting Ray off this story before was like trying to get a tennis ball from a golden retriever, after the post-Painter comments it is more like getting a ribeye from a pitbull. Anyone else notice Kaleem Shah seems to have ditched the flashy Captain America silks for understated brown and yellow checkers?

    • Charles Mcginnes

      I am disappointed that Ray massaged his stats to try and prove his point…not up to his usual standards of journalism. To be accurate, he would have to know how many training hours per horse, INCLUDING THOSE WHO NEVER STARTED, each trainer had, since the deaths of the horses involved were after both racing and training.

      • RayPaulick

        I get your point. You don’t think the statistics are meaningful. I beg to differ.

        • Charles Mcginnes

          You may be right, but massaging statistics to prove a point only detracts from journalistic credibility.

          • RayPaulick

            The statistics have not been massaged. This is what is available. There are no statistics available on horses in training that did not start or number of hours trained per horse. I doubt even a trainer has that statistic.

            People asked for factual information. This is factual. For every 31.4 horses that Bob Baffert started in California from July 1, 2011-March 31, 2013, one died of sudden death. For every other trainer during the same time frame, there was an average of one sudden death for every 302.0 horses that started. I’m not telling you what conclusions to draw, but those are the facts.

          • Hopefieldstables

            Correct, these are undeniable facts using available data. There is no reason on the face of it why ANY trainer should depart so far from the average.

            These facts demand an explanation.

            Saying training hours is the answer is no explanation at all. It does not hold mathematically, it does not hold when simply held against common sense.

      • Hopefieldstables

        To make Bafferts horse death rate per training hour on par with other trainers death rate per training hour, Bafferts horses would have to train 15.5 times more hours per start.

        Of course the more hours Baffert accumulates with horses who never make a start (versus other trainers) would bridge the gap.

        Thus either they break down more or they die more. Neither is good.

      • Lord Rickles

        Charles, statistics aside what you fail to accept is that 7 sudden deaths is highly unusual. If it was me in Baffert’s situation and I was totally innocent of causing these deaths I certainly would not be calling out Ray on national TV. I would be trying to exhaust all avenues to find out why it happened. Baffert is bullet proof for now, sadly his horses are not.

  • Roger

    Geez….they shut down David Milch’s HBO Show LUCK for far less …….

  • Nancy Taylor

    CHRB in recent years just rubber stamps whatever lousy self-serving protectionist business decision the TOC comes up with. Now you want an impartial investigation of the fox vs the hen house in this matter ? Good luck with that !

  • betterthannothing

    Stunning statistics worth a thousand words. Thank you Ray!

    “…sudden death, defined by the regulatory agency as a healthy horse that dies during or within an hour of racing or training…”

    36 is only the number of “healthy horse” deaths within ONE HOUR of training and racing. The CHRB wants to keep its numbers as low as possible. How many more “healthy horses” died after an hour and 5 minutes of training and racing from “something other than a musculoskeletal injury”? Horses can take several days to die of “something other than…” and since those deaths could have a common thread, they should be added to the ones who died within one hour and those numbers released.

    All racing jurisdictions should mandate their tracks to uniformly record, identify and publicly release all deaths at the end of each meet.

    • Larry Ensor

      Good point. Has anyone ever asked if these incidents are recorded?

    • Charles Mcginnes

      These statistics don’t include the number of training hours per horse per trainer so they are essentially useless, as the number of horses this is based on did not all die after just starting in a race

    • Roisin

      That is why a national racing commission with standard rules is needed. That would do away with all these fiefdoms doing what they want to do and not doing what should be done.

      • mike g rutherford

        we are getting there thanks to people like you talking it up. Texas, NY & 6 other states now have uniform medication rules. We do not need anything national we already have a post office & messed up medical industry. Everyone is heading to standard rules.

      • Red Rider

        I am all for uniform rules and enforcement. What, however, makes you think a national program would be any less corrupt? Lets go even bigger and push for an international body, something like the U.N., which embodies integrity!

  • Rebekah Lane

    This is the kind of work we appreciate from you, Ray. No amount of crisis management or blather from Bo Derek or Rick Arthur will explain away these numbers.

    • Charles Mcginnes

      Rebekah, Ray’s numbers don’t include any training hours per horse per trainer, yet the deaths of the horses were racing or training. These statistics are useless.

      • Rebekah Lane

        The statistics are what they are: Sudden deaths per start by trainer, and Baffert’s percentages compared/contrasted to all of the remaining trainers in California and as a percentage of the whole. Yes, horses die during/after training — so what? Unless Baffert’s horses had significantly more training time than other trainers’ horses, it’s not relevant. Ray could have tried to get statistics on deaths per sprinter/miler/stayer, or bays/chestnuts/grays, or Cal breds vs. Kentucky breds, but his numbers are what they are and are damning. Whether they are more damning to Baffert or the racing board, I can’t say.

        As I recall from Ray’s original story, California’s sudden death numbers in the cited time period exceeded those in all of the other U.S. racing jurisdictions combined, and Baffert’s numbers alone came close. Calculating deaths per training hours would not change the number of fatalities.

        • RayPaulick

          I don’t think any other U.S. state has tracked equine racing and training deaths – both musculoskeletal and sudden death – with the detail that California has through its necropsy program. It is difficult to compare historical racing and training deaths in California with those in other states.

          • Fast Filly

            Every horse in Oklahoma that dies at a racetrack is taken to OSU and posted.CHeck it out.

      • FastBernieB

        I don’t remember everything from my Statistics course in university, but I do recall that when a significant sample size (Baffert’s barn) is compared to a total population (Every trainer and horse to start in Cal in the same time period) the results generated tend to be reliable. A differential in the 2 – 5% is close enough to the norm to be disregarded. In this case, the differential is in the 17% range. It is either an extreme outlier or an indicator of a problem. At the very least it requires a thorough investigation. And by that I mean a non-biased, thorough investigation with no stone left unturned.

      • circusticket

        They are not useless and should not be dismissed but they’re not necessarily damning without further investigation and that’s what Ray’s point is. Something doesn’t smell right and we owe it to the horses to look into it.

      • Red Rider

        Nice try, Charlie. Only the best tuna get to be AssKist!

    • maryland

      I second that.
      Mr. P., keep after it, please. Whatever happened to the Cibelli case at Tampa?
      You’re only one man, I know it is a lot to ask, but journalists in your position act as advocates for the fans of this beloved sport, and for the horses themselves who need all the advocacy they can get. Too much has already been swept under the rug.
      Believe it or not, I am cheering you on.

  • Hopefieldstables

    These figures are stunning.

    For all trainers ( including Baffert ) : One death per 266 starts

    Excluding Baffert: One death every 302 starts.

    Baffert: One death every 119 starts

    Brian Stewart presented data from Hong Kong at the Race Day Medication summit. He reported (at the time) that there were 8 deaths over the previous 5 years from 45,000 starts.

    That is One death every 5,692 starts.

    • Guest

      You’re mixing up per start and per horse numbers I think. Per start:

      All: 1 in 1511

      All excluding Baffert: 1 in 1847

      Baffert : 1 in 119

      • Hopefieldstables

        Yes that is correct, my mistake.

        Baffert 1 in 119 v Hong Kong 1 in 5,692 is the correct comparison

        • Hopefieldstables

          Baffert 1 in 119 v Other Cali trainers 1 in 1,847

      • Charles Mcginnes

        But you see the horse numbers are only counting the numbers of starters each trainer had, it doesn’t include the horses that are in a trainer’s barn and never start. The statistics are not uniform and really prove nothing.

        • Guest

          Those aren’t the per horse numbers. As it states, they are the per start numbers. Perhaps you’d like to argue that Baffert had ten times as many non-starters as starters in his barn, and nobody else had any non-starters… then he’d have the same per horse sudden fatality rate as we see in the whole sample. Do you think that is likely?

        • Hopefieldstables

          Statistics are not intended to “prove anything”

          They are evidence from which you can draw an inference. Here, the inference is obvious.

          With 7 deaths, Baffert would have to had 2,114 horses go through his barn (1,894 without a start) to achieve the same ratio of death to horses in training as his fellow trainers (1 death per 302 horses which incidentally did not count un-raced horses, thus could be better).

          It is reputed that Baffert breaks down a lot of horses but surely not this many !

        • Lord Rickles

          Charles, you can spin this any way you want, but Baffert had 7 horses die in a short time frame and you can’t spin that. That would be under HIS care, UNDER his supervision, Under his responsibility. Spin that!!

  • Jay

    Bob, Ray just cracked another barrel of ink. Tread carefully.

  • Tonto

    Who made Bo Derick an expert on horse racing and DVM Authur is doing a cyoa for the racetrack vets.

  • notyourdaughter

    Jill is going to start praying for Ray again!

  • Charles Mcginnes

    Since the sudden deaths of the horses occurred within an hour of racing OR TRAINING, I am not sure that any statistics using only starts, and not including number of training hours per horse per trainer as well, would be accurate.
    Ray, I am wondering if you saw either the movie or the play, Les Miserables? You are beginning to resemble one of the characters!!!

    • RayPaulick

      Other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play?

    • Hopefieldstables

      What do you mean by “accurate” ?

      Comparing deaths with starts is to simply to parameterise the deaths with a measure that represents the volume of Bafferts operation vis a vis other trainers. As long as the starts/deaths numbers are accurate, the parameter is 100% accurate.

      The parameter of course has its intrinsic value and its limitations.

      Training hours is likely to be highly correlated with race starts. Thus deaths per training hours is very unlikely to lead to a difference inference.

      Ray also considered the parameter: deaths per horse in training. The obvious inference is the same.

      And that is the salient point.

      • johnnyknj

        Now that is a beat-down. The guy may never comment again.

        • Charles Mcginnes

          I am merely saying that if you start with the number of horses that die after racing OR training, then you cannot just use statistics for horses that start. Of the 36 deaths, how many were for horses that had just raced? Of the horses under Baffert’s care that died, how many were after races? I believe that would be a more accurate basis for comparing starts per trainer. I believe that at least two of Baffert’s horses died after training hours, maybe more. A lot of people are commenting here without complete information., including me.

    • Knowitall

      Charles, how would one get the “training hours” for each horse?

      • Charles Mcginnes

        I believe you would have to have access to a trainer’s daily work sheet.

        • Knowitall

          Ah, you mean along with the perfectly kept vet records that they all are so willing to hand over to anyone who asks? Good to know.

  • jttf

    dont forget that bafferts’ star horses the last 2 years are being retired and sidelined at an alarming rate. bodemeister, princess arabella, secret circle, flashback and paynter were all in bad shape after running 6 furlong works on a regular basis. wouldnt a good trainer notice if he or she is too tough on their horses ? not this guy. paynter is still getting 6 furlong works shoved down his throat on a regular basis. this is a new california trend of works that didnt work out well for i’ll have another, hear the ghost and creative cause, either. some people care more about money and less about the health of the horse. hey gary west and mike pegram, your trainer’s training program looks like it might be more harmful to your horse, than to run your horse without lasix. did baffert say he is going to take it easier on his horses ?

    • mike g rutherford

      Gary Jones worked my filly Lakeway 1 mile a few times before a race. light works is the reason horses today in the triple crown have no bottom. Laz, Charlie, Stevens worked them hard. Orb went 6 weeks between Florida & KY Derbys & he fell apart after the KY race. He must have lost 50 pounds after the Derby. Seeing Orb at the Preakness I would not have bet 10cents on his chances. Spectacular Bid raced it seems every 2 weeks, you think he did not have a bottom on him. Affirmed got stronger the more he trained & raced. I wonder how many horses those Poly tracks are killing with all those substances flying up in their face.

  • Mrcalltothepost

    On the Clenbuterol comment, I believe whole heartedly that it has something to do with the sudden deaths. While I believe that the true Clenbuterol used as directed is a good and safe therapeutic drug, the illegal stuff made in several compounding pharmacy across the US is very harmful.. They have for about 5 years now been selling this stuff that can be sometimes a hundred to five hundred times stronger than the legal Clenbuterol. Regulators in all US jurisdictions are to stupid to realize this is a major problem. The sudden deaths have absolutely risen in those 5 years. Pharmacy boards and regulators should absolutely today not tomorrow or next week look into what these snake oil compounding pharmacy’s are making and selling to vets and horsemen. Where do you think Demorphin and all this other crap is coming from. Not saying that Baffert is using anything illegal, just saying that all this crap can been obtain on the backside of any racetrack in American, and the regulators are to stupid to stop it..

    • mike g rutherford


      • mitt rommy

        Every time i go to the doctor he gives me another damn pill. the Vets & Doctors
        must work for the drug companies?

      • Red Rider

        Yup, yup, yup!

  • Lord Rickles

    Bo Derek you are no longer a “10” you are a big fat “1” for this!!

    • mike g rutherford

      I will take her. a beautiful lady!

  • Jerry



    • mick romney

      did you vote for Obama? its always the white guys fault you know.

  • Bandit’s Mom

    Charlie Mcginnes,
    You don’t massage numbers. You massage egos, that one being Bob’s.
    Math does not lie and ultimately leads to the truth. That is why it is the universal language. Math. Good job,Ray.

    • Charles Mcginnes

      Bandit’s Mom, I am not saying that Ray is wrong, I am just saying that the statistics as he presents them do not prove his point. Math does not lie, but he cannot base his numbers on just the horses that start for trainers, when the number of horses that are included in the sudden death inquiries are for horses that died after racing and/or training! That is like saying a certain percentage of apples that are picked are bad and base your percentages on apples that are sold, not including the ones that never make it the store.

      • Knowitall

        You are beating dead horses, Charles.

  • Amy Stevens

    My husband is a thoroughbred trainer of over 30 years with over 4000 starts and over 800 wins, and his comment is that he has NEVER had a horse die suddenly after training or a race. I wish some other old timers would speak up also if they have a similar record because I bet there are plenty. Baffert is an anomaly that has to be reined in, as well as the other trainers who are abusing our sport..

    • mike g rutherford

      Old timers ? Secretariat would hardly breed 1st year after racing and after he died at a young age they said he had an enlarged heart. Swale died while in training and they said he had an enlarged heart. Lure would not even breed after racing. What are those odds ? The sport is cleaner now. Bill Mott ran a filly for me in 15 stakes and after winning a graded stakes she was in foal 9 days later. Facts speak for them self. By the way, “congrats on your husband’s fine record”. Baffert has a great eye for a good horse, recruits owners with money to burn, and surrounds himself with top help and most of all knows where to run them. Lucas and Pletcher do the same. Baffert starts with better stock than 99% of the trainers. Baffert knows “great Horses make great Trainers” ! Its hard to reel in a winner. Mike G Rutherford

      • RedShoesGirl

        secretariat’s large heart was genetic, a sex-link gene. larger than most other thoroughbreds though. yes he didn’t produce a large number of male offspring, but he was a great broodmare sire. secretariat died from laminitis – he was euthanized – didn’t die because he had a large heart.

        X-factor: http://www.horsesonly.com/crossroads/xfactor/heart-1.htm

        from a simple google search:

        “At the time of Secretariat’s death, the veterinarian who performed the necropsy, Dr. Thomas Swerczek, head pathologist at the University of Kentucky, did not weigh Secretariat’s heart, but stated, “We just stood there in stunned silence. We couldn’t believe it. The heart was perfect. There were no problems with it. It was just this huge engine.”[33] Later, Swerczek also performed a necropsy on Sham, who died in 1993. Swerczek did weigh Sham’s heart, and it was 18 pounds (8.2 kg). Based on Sham’s measurement, and having necropsied both horses, he estimated Secretariat’s heart probably weighed 22 pounds (10.0 kg),[32] or about two-and-three-quarters times as large as that of the average horse.

        sometimes even wikipedia gets it right.


        • mike g rutherford

          If Secretariat’s enlarged heart was genetic how come he did not pass it on to his foals? He was a good broodmare sire because he was bred to the best mares in the world & I suspect the great female families in the pedigrees passed on to the female side. I had lots of them, in fact in his first yearling crop 2 colts were sold that year & I purchased 1 (Synytariat). Sham never produced at a high level either. What happened to Swale & Lure? I believe Secretariat had a full sister too, I guess she did not have the same genetic make up. wikipedia only got its information from as they say from the horses mouth. I really believe racing is much cleaner today as it was when I first started. Setting on the Texas Racing Commission for 7 years I saw the awesome testing, DNA and computer power Texas A & M labs had at it’s disposal, as they could tell you what a horse ate 2 weeks before. The head Vet at A & M informed me with the tests they had there was no way lasix could cover up any drug. I am against any enhancing drugs, steriods or pain killers. In Texas we passed the RCI suggested Medication Rules & Penates 6 years ago !

  • In tears

    THE MATTER IS CONSIDERED CLOSED. !!!!!! Are there any intelligent people out there who are not in someones pocket? A intellegent, humane person to fight for the rights and lives of horses. SAD SAD SAD.

    • nu-fan

      And, I keep wondering why whatever laws we have against animal abuse is not used in these kinds of cases regarding horseracing? Don’t we have such laws? Are horses exempt from these laws? Just seems that the judicial system and law enforcement should be involved rather than leaving it to a tightly closed circle within horseracing to determine this.

  • albany

    haven’t seen anyone try to connect the dots between any vets here and any other clients of these practitioners.

    just an owner who is on his way out of this dirty industry both as an owner as well as a wagerer.

    • mick ronney

      BY BY. blame it on the white guy!

  • Chasman

    Look, the simple issue is that horses have died as a result of ‘Sudden Death’ and it makes no matter whether it is 1 horse or 36 horses and it makes no matter who the trainer is and how many horses die under his care…The lack of action by the CHRB or any racing board over not having complete and thorough investiagation and releasing the findings in a press conference or at least a monthly board meeting is just another example of why the sport is viewed the way it is in the eyes of the general public…So who is worst at handling issues – The people in charge of the sport or our elected poltiicans?

  • dcurtis

    I posted a link about the Equine Heart and related problems, but it got deleted , guess ,information like that is not appreciated , would hat to see people educate them selves.

    • RayPaulick

      Don’t see any comment of this kind in our “deleted” folder so not sure what happened to it.

      • dcurtis

        Tried to post it again and it said moderator deleting it, not sure if you do not allow links, it was an informative link on Equine heart problems also known as Swale Syndrome, just thought people could be a little more informed before drawing the worst conclusions, I have seen a seemingly healthy 3 yr drop from this 30 min. post race race , no illegal drugs involved.

  • greg

    It’s called EPO for the CHRB, that’s EEE PEE OH followed by Warfarin. One thickens the blood the other thins the blood. Now you can begin looking since you know what to look for

  • Jerry

    WAIT A SECOND………………………………WHAT ABOUT THE “RIDERS”???????




  • Biggar

    Baffert is a successful trainer for many years. All of a sudden he forgets how to do things so that seven of his horses die. This makes sense to some of you, but not to me

  • RedShoesGirl

    did you happen to delete my link to the study on the x-factor and large hearts? i can’t seem to find it.

  • Red Rider

    An unwanted tree obscured a business location my company leased. The landlord was indifferent. One morning the unwanted object was gone. The work of “Jewish lightning” according to my not-so-orthodox partner. BB achieves removal with D-Con instead. The CHRB condones the practice.

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