Pennsylvania: The FBI Agent And The Trainer

by | 03.07.2017 | 10:30pm

Bruce Doupe is a special agent with the Federal Bureau of Investigation who has spent the last five of his 13 years at the FBI's Harrisburg, Pa., office investigating what he calls ”allegations of criminal wrongdoing in the conduct of Thoroughbred racing at Penn National Race Course.”

That characterization is taken from testimony Doupe gave Jan. 6, 2016, at a Suppression Hearing sought by the attorney for Murray Rojas, a Penn National Thoroughbred trainer who was indicted in August 2015 on federal wire fraud and conspiracy charges. Two superseding indictments against Rojas have followed (most recently on Feb. 8), with the federal government seeking a $5.2 million judgment against the trainer if she is convicted. The indictments allege that Rojas conspired with veterinarians to illegally administer medication to dozens of horses on race day over a period several years. The wire fraud charges are based on the fact purse money won by horses trained by Rojas in those races was transferred electronically across state lines from one bank to another.

Additionally, Rojas has been charged with misbranding and dispensing drugs without an order of a veterinarian. The drugs mentioned in the indictment include Acetylcysteine, ACTH, Banamine, Dexamethasone, ECP, Estrone, Ketoprofen, Legend, Robaxin and Robinol.

As the Paulick Report previously reported, the National Horsemen's Benevolent and Protective Association in April 2016 formed the National Thoroughbred Owners & Trainers Legal Defense Fund Foundation, Inc. The fund is helping pay attorney fees for Rojas, who pleaded not guilty to the federal charges against her.

Eric Hamelback, CEO of the National HBPA, previously declined to discuss the legal defense fund or the Rojas case with the Paulick Report, referring all questions to the National HBPA's attorney. He then said in a subsequent radio interview that our reporting on the legal defense fund was “one-sided.”

He also said in the radio interview that the National HBPA is not necessarily defending Rojas but trying to protect other horsemen from a possible precedent-setting case in which violations of state regulatory rules on medication could be considered a federal crime – not just in Pennsylvania, but in any racing state.

Who exactly is Murray Rojas and how did she become a target of the FBI?

Doupe's sworn statements in the Suppression Hearing paint an interesting picture. (Rojas, incidentally, prevailed in a motion to suppress when Sylvia Rambo, U.S. District Judge for the Middle District of Pennsylvania, ordered certain statements Rojas made to the FBI are inadmissible at trial.)

Rojas previously declined to comment about her case when contacted by the Paulick Report.

Following are some excerpts from the Suppression Hearing:

William Behe from the U.S. Attorney's Office asked FBI special agent Doupe, who had been talking to Rojas about Penn National since 2012, “How would you describe your relationship with her?”

Doupe responded: “Very cordial. Murray had made some overtures that she would like to cooperate and clean up the racing industry, the horse racing industry.”

Behe asked Doupe why he met with Rojas at the Harrisburg FBI office in April 2015. An employee of the Pennsylvania Department of Agriculture, which was also investigating Penn National, was present for the interview.

Doupe: “If I can go back to 2012, she had provided me information since 2012 regarding allegations of criminal misconduct conducted by other horsemen, trainers, owners, etc. And I've used that information. (Editor's Note: a federal grand jury indicted a clocker, a racing official, and several veterinarians and trainers.)

“Prior to April, just shortly before April 2015, we had done an investigation that involved some veterinarians that were treating horses at Penn National,” Doupe continued. “They had provided me information. They have cooperated.

“And part of their cooperation, I have obtained medical documents of treatments done by the veterinarians to horse owners and trainers out at Penn National. One of those trainers was Murray Rojas. I wanted to discuss with Murray that the information that she had provided me, and I took it to be truthful and accurate, I felt a little deceived by her because in the medical records was information that she was conducting the same type of criminal activity that she was giving me information on other people.”

“What do you mean by that?” Behe asked.

Doupe: “Well, she's telling me about individuals, possible other horsemen trainers that were treating their horses on race day, I believe one or two of them had rented stalls at her farm. And when I looked at the medical records, I had seen that she was also treating the horses on racing day in violation of the racing rules and regulations.”

Behe later asked Doupe if Rojas “made any admissions regarding the administration of drugs to horses on race days.”

“She did,” said Doupe.

“What did she tell you?” asked Behe.

Doupe: “She told me she didn't like the word juicing or drugging. I said, okay, treatment. And I told her, from now on, any time I asked her about the word treatment, it would refer to the illegal administration of substances or medications to race horses on race day. I asked her if she had done any of that. She says, you know I did, you have my records, is her response.”

This is the statement Judge Rambo said is inadmissible at trial because the question Doupe asked was too vague and could have referred to instances that were 10 or 20 years ago.

Behe: “And did she say anything about that type of practice going on at that track or elsewhere?”

“She did,” said Doupe. “She said, it goes on every day, and it goes on everywhere, she said, every track.”

Doupe repeated that assertion from Rojas under cross examination by the trainer's attorney, Robert E. Goldman.

“She like to justify her criminal misconduct by stating that this happens everywhere,” said Doupe. “She says everybody does it, I don't see the big deal. She would often tell me that.”

Doupe admitted to Goldman that in 2012 he convinced Rojas she should be comfortable talking to him.

“Basically,” Goldman said to Doupe, “you're telling her, are you not, don't worry about it, we're not going to tell other trainers, we're not going to tell people at the track? You're telling her that information?”

Doupe: “That is true, yes.”

Though Doupe said he and Rojas spoke on an ongoing basis (“She would call me often to give me information. I would call her to see if she heard something about someone or something going on or a rumor.”), she was not listed as “an official cooperating witness or source” in the case. He also insisted he never told Rojas the FBI would not use her information against her in a criminal prosecution.

Goldman accused the FBI of coercion.

“There's different ways you can have a coercive atmosphere,” he said in the Suppression Hearing's closing arguments. “One can be by bullying. One can be by threatening. One can be by coercion. Coercion can also come in what happened here. It's a different type of coercion. It's an interesting and clever way for the FBI.

“In a 2012 interview, you tell somebody that this information is not going to be used against you, it's confidential, it's being held by the FBI, we're soliciting you as an informant or a cooperator or whatever, and you gain the person's confidence and comfort, and you say it's not going to be used against you. You then solicit the person again to come in, again with a Pennsylvania Racing Commission member there. That's the type of individual that Murray said, I don't want to talk in front of.

“The special agent knows that, tells her, ‘Hey, don't worry about it. If you lie to us, we can prosecute you.' But he doesn't change the ground rules. So the coercive atmosphere is, come in, cooperate, admit what you are doing, you get a pass, we keep it confidential, we don't tell anyone, but don't lie to us, because if you lie to us, that gives – that's a psychological coercion which wins her over to have her, or hopefully have her, incriminate herself and to do it under what I contend to be coercion.”

  • Bute

    Tom Wolf, take the money already. The horse folks over in Pennsylvania don’t deserve it.

    • ExerciseRider

      Glad you don’t think my kids deserve a proper house and food because of some accusations against certain people. We all work hard to support our families just like everyone else and we deserve that money just as much.

      • Big John M

        Maybe it’s time you start working on another circuit. By the way, are you eligible for any health or pension benefits in Pennsylvania? Oh wait, I think it’s only for trainers.

  • john

    I have no sympathy for crooked trainers. Period!

  • MR.DR.

    Why is this site so focused on drugs, cheating, and the like?……..it’s really pretty funny……….

    • Barrmorr

      That comment makes it sound like you are involved.

      • Doping

        Exactly !

        • papi chulo

          Could be worse, you could belong to the Pewter Stable

    • billy

      You see what’s happening to these horses someone gotta step up for them their connections sure as hell don’t care

    • longtimehorsewoman

      Ahhh. Because it’s a giant problem?

    • Troll alert

  • Johnny K.

    How could the HBPA ever have reason to pay for Ms. Rojas’s attorney fees. Isn’t it kind of suspicious that Ms. Rojas was the first horseman to use this fund, while nobody else ever knew about the fund. Mr. Executive Director should be wearing a bag on his head if he recommended attorney fees should be paid for a snitch with about 60 federal charges against her. No need to worry though, we’ll just offset that 150 K or so by taking prescription coverage from the horsemen.

    • Hamish

      Any idea how much the HBPA legal fund has paid to defend Rojas at this point? How much of the fund was contributed by the local HBPA?

  • Barrmorr

    I live in Philadelphia and am a big fan of horse racing so it does not make me happy to say this. All tracks in the state should be closed. This has to be the most corrupt racing commission in the country. I have never been to Penn National and I refuse to set foot in Parx due to the number of trainers that operate there that have multiple medication violations. There will always be trainers who cheat but when the people who are supposed to be overseeing the sport knowingly allow then to get away with it it’s time to shut it down.

    • wmk3400

      I used to live in Bensalem and now reside in Delco. When I lived in Bucks Co. I’d attend the races on most days. I don’t want to indict all horsemen but there are way too many stabled at Parx that need to be permanently removed from the premises but management really doesn’t have the stones or even the want to do that. I’ve also been to Penn National many times but will not return there until they fix their obvious lack of credibility. In addition the state’s take-out rate for exotic bets is completely offensive and I will not place another wager on them until they are lowered and if that means never, then never.

      In addition pertaining to the closure of both aforementioned tracks I agree with you and speaking as a layman I feel RICO is quite possibly in order. Corruption is too deeply imbedded for it not to be a conspiracy of some sort. I’m sure if we knew each other we could swap war stories about PA racing and trust me I have many that I know for a fact to be true.

      • Captain Steve

        Totally agree. What really bothers me is the blatant animal abuse and the indifference to this by management. They don’t give a hoot about what the criminals inject horses with, as long as they fill cards. Shame on them all. I’d rather bet any other track than Parx or Penn. Also, maybe the FBI can take a look at what’s going on in the racing office at Parx, and interview some people there.

        • garret

          What track are you betting that isn’t filled with cheating trainers? Lol!

        • Really?

          Yup. Some good horseman there but lots of abuse too. I agree racing office and secretary is the root of the problem.

    • honest abe

      can say when wagering on Pa. races, i’m counting on them cheating, just the way it is…

    • xhunter4u

      You got that right. Many years ago an old player at my recently opened OTB told me to lay off betting Philly Park because it was so dishonest. He had some choice things to say about certain trainers, too. I took his advice as he’d been around the game a long time.

  • Joey Meyer

    I feel strongly that the level of corruption runs much deeper than where the focus is… I’ll talk Ray Paulick.

    • billy

      Very much so

  • Really?

    This is precisely the reason why trainers don’t speak out against the things going on in front of them. If you speak to a commission investigator you have to fear things being turned around on you. I’d guess some are even paid by trainers. I mean how can things be so obviously corrupt at Parx and it continues? Now they have a rule you have to have stalls to claim unless you lost a horse. Yesterday Ramon Preciado’s girlfriend claimed a horse. Was she given stalls when everyone knows what’s going on?

    • Bryan Langlois

      If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear really. She was just as guilty in doing what the others were doing. Legal technicalities may prevail in this case on certain arguments, but if a trainer is clean and has nothing to hide, there should be no reason that they don’t want to speak out about others that are cheating. This wasn’t turned around on her for no reason, it was found she was doing the exact same thing. Now if she will claim she was promised some sort of immunity from being prosecuted, that is something different, but doesn’t absolve that she was cheating just like the rest of them.

      • disqus_wZUB6w9ANy

        Although Parx hierarchy “advertised” to the PA Racing Commission a willingness to clean up through random barn searches and video surveillance, I have yet to see cameras in the few barns I have wandered into (visiting prospective trainers or buyers for my horses). Therefore, I would fear retaliation through drug sabotage and other ways if word got out that a trainer was informing investigators, etc.

        • Bryan Langlois

          That part I do understand and agree with to a point. I was more talking about the fact of you yourself being found in violation of things if you cheated as well.

  • george parker

    So Murray was the one who provided the information which allowed the other trainers and clocker to be indicted but now that she’s the object of the investigation the HBPA is going to step in and defend her?

    • longtimehorsewoman

      The HBPA is trying to prevent racing from taking a big hit, it’s not about saving Rojas.

  • Drew Mollica

    A word to the wise, when the guy asking you questions tells you he is your friend, and only there to “help you,” Run! Do not walk away, and call a competent attorney, collect if need be but quickly!
    Sad commentary on the investigatory process and why this “coercion” and dishonesty must end!

    • Elliott

      No the commentary that is sad is that spewed by the people who continue to defend dopers, cheaters and criminals that are ruining this business. The dopers, cheaters and criminals are not the victims.

      • Drew Mollica

        Please never rush to judgment, keep an open mind, and remember not all accused are indeed guilty. Broad generalizations not the answer. fairness and due process can never be an afterthought, never. Again, and I pray the day never comes, when you or someone you love is accused of a crime or a violation, trust me you will agree with my position. The false sanctimony of many who say they are working to clean up the industry are often nothing more than self serving rhetoric. But I agree the guilty must be punished but not at the expense of the innocent. After all innocent till proven guilty, except in racing where the powers that be often think the opposite is the way to go!

        • Tinky

          Drew –

          I have a lot of respect for you having put the (considerable) work in to create a second, successful career as an attorney. But when you make these kind of sanctimonious comments, you come off as a reflexive defender of the widespread cheating that has gone on in the game for decades.

          If you have a legal opinion on a particular case, feel free to share it on this forum. But please cease and desist with ludicrous implications that all who are accused are likely to be innocent. We all get that the accused should receive their days in court, and agree with the importance of that.

          Finally, the irony of your initial comment, in which you make the very same rush to judgment (albeit about the process) that you accuse others of making, is hock-deep.

          • Drew Mollica

            respectfully disagree . . . I know from personal knowledge of he nonsense that permeates the regulatory practice of some Commissions . Fairness and due process are not on their dockets, the history does not lie, nor does the junk science they often try and rely upon. Again please as an intelligent person look beyond what they want you believe is the obvious it is often not. but I respect your position, just simply disagree with it because I see the damage these “goody goods” cause. They ruin lives and careers, please let the facts take you not what they purport as the facts, are often not what they appear.

          • Tinky

            Drew,

            Neither I, nor anyone else has suggested that all Commissions, or even a majority of them are well run, or that there aren’t problematic investigations. I’m glad that you, and other lawyers who specialize in racing related cases are there to defend those who are innocent, and potentially being abused by the process. So, that is a straw man.

            With regard to this case, you may well be able to make a compelling argument that Rojas has been unfairly treated. But readers can’t make a judgement about your (strong) opinion on the matter, because you haven’t articulated your position specifically. Furthermore, your tone suggests that her behavior is irrelevant, and ll that matters is that the process treat her fairly.

            Again, any specific insights into cases that are discussed would be welcomed. But the manner in which you have chosen to comment above smacks of the same, broad-brush (RIP Richard Small) reflexiveness that you accuse others of when it comes to the topic of cheating.

          • Drew, we’ve know each other for decades, and I respect you for your fairness and your intellect, but you’ve now been in the trenches so long you may have lost sight of the bigger picture, which is that when you are not defending the innocent, you are making a living defending people that are guilty, because in the American system of jurisprudence everybody is entitled to a good defense. Due process has been exploited by lawyers defending cheaters in racing for a long time and those of us interested in seeing justice be done are pretty damn sick of it. Personally, I don’t know how long somebody like you can keep doing what you are doing and live with yourself. Racing commissions not only cannot be trusted, they are inept as hell. Anybody that has ever run up against them knows that. I’ve experienced this first hand and been victimized by them, most notably in the 1990s in the now infamous scopalomine cases in Southern California. But what disgusts me even more is the treatment provided to scumbags by guys like you. I agree with Tinky’s comments.

          • togahombre

            if those that commit even the most heinous of crimes can’t get a suitable defense the justice system isn’t working as it was intended, the fact that some prosecutors and investigators at times don’t take their jobs as seriously or aren’t as capable as some defense attorneys is the silent problem

        • billy

          Do you think wells punishment for what he did he got off on easy street just like the clocker and vets neither of the above mentioned paid for what they did

        • john caruso

          no rush to judgement. been playing horses 45 years and to the man all my buddies know how crooked and deceptive you and your little cartel are..your fooling nobody giving us legal advice, lowlife

  • Peter Scarnati

    Doupe states that Rojas had this to say about the race-day administration of drugs to race horses: “She said, it goes on every day, and it goes on everywhere, she said, every track.” This is easily the most important (and damning) statement in the entire piece.
    To an outsider, and also to those who wager, can there possibly be a more damaging statement to made by a trainer? Who also, by the way, justifies her own use of the same practice “because everyone else does it.”
    Very sad.

    • Drew Mollica

      In response all I can say is no one knows the context of what Ms. Rojas allegedly said or if she said it, Also clear to me Ms. Rojas has no personal knowledge of what goes on anywhere else, hence when you look at the alleged statement it has no evidence value . . . just shock value. And that i believe this is what the government seeks here, shock value and they know that.

      • Peter Scarnati

        That is the precisely the point Drew. It IS shocking for an outsider and bettor to hear this from a trainer. Due process aside, I seriously doubt that Rojas’ alleged statements were made up from whole cloth by the FBI agent at a Suppression Hearing, which I would imagine were made under oath (though that may not be the case). I, like those outsiders and bettors I have referred to, would tend to lend credence to the fact that she had indeed made these statements.

        • Drew Mollica

          My take is the alleged statements were not made under oath.

          • Lehane

            I’d imagine that even if the statements were not made under oath, the judge presiding on this case would decide if the statements could be admissible evidence. Guessing that the prosecution team would make such an application to the court.

          • john caruso

            YOUR take OTHER THEN TO SHILL FOR THIEVES is that you ARE PART AND PARCEL OF WHAT THEY ARE..WHO Exactly do you think your fooling?

      • johnnyknj

        No personal knowledge? C’mon, you can’t be on the backside without gaining “personal” knowledge of what is going on. You can argue whether or not she has “first hand” knowledge or knowledge of evidentiary value, although I bet she does.

      • Kevin Callinan

        Context……. let’s put this in context. More money was bet on PA racing 12 years ago when half of us had to stand in line to make a bet; now about 300 ‘fans’ attend a weekday race. The state government is considering the end of the casino subsidy. If you want to continue to condone the culture of cheating then consider that PARX only generates enough revenue to cover 10% of their present purse structure- put that in context.

        • Stop spreading misinformation, Kevin!

          Half of those 300 “fans” are just drunk casino gamblers who got lost on their way back to the bar for another drink. Lol.

      • longtimehorsewoman

        I am sure Rojas said it, and I am sure it is true. Anyone who has worked at the track, let alone trained, knows that she said the truth.

      • Lehane

        I find it astounding that you can say that Rojas has no personal knowledge of what goes on when obviously she does.

      • john caruso

        SHE’S A F–KIN THIEVE JUST LIKE YOU DREW

    • Lehane

      Totally agree with you. From what i’ve read on this matter, Rojas comes across as self-serving and attempts to justify her violations by saying others do it. And that, imo, is not a defence to her case.

  • Soo
    What we need to do is start a fund that goes after these trainers on behalf of the betting public honest trainers and owners

    • Lehane

      Perhaps establish a Betting Public Association with rights to have a seat at the table.

    • A penny for your thoughts

      The betting public needs to stop betting Penn National in general

      • Hamish

        That’s an appropriate gesture based on the behaviors there, but reduced pari-mutuel wagering won’t do anything to punish anyone, either Penn or the horsemen, as nearly 90% of the money paid in purses at PNat comes from the horsemen’s cut of the slots machines proceeds. Now, picket and block the slot machine area so folks can’t play, that would hurt the horsemen.

  • Richard C

    When an organization begins to righteously defend the indefensible…it quickly becomes irrelevant and indefensible.

    • longtimehorsewoman

      The HBPA is not defending a person because they believe she is innocent. They are defending the racing industry from a potential precedent that could be fatal to racing. This is not about Rojas, it is about a real threat to the racing industry. Hopefully Rojas (sorry it comes down to a single person) will be found guilty. And then other trainers will have to be a lot more careful. Not that they will suddenly become moral, unfortunately.

  • Larry Sterne

    here they are trying to not have state crimes,not be federal crimes how sick. where is their morality ? here is a thought dont , commit a crime and you won’t have to worry whether it is a state or federal violation . again if they spent as much time protecting the customer as they do alleged criminals this sport would not have its bad rep

  • billy

    Just a thought can you really be telling the feds about what other people are doing wrong while your doing the same thing and be considered an informant that’s laughable I think mrs rojas tried to give up some small fish hoping the feds would go away while trying to protect herself and others I’m almost certain this goes alot deeper then rojas

    • Hamish

      The “who’s” that may be above her in the food chain must be somewhat uncomfortable these days.

  • A penny for your thoughts

    “The conduct of thoroughbred racing at Penn National”

    And who runs it? Chris McErlean

    Enough said

  • garret

    Racing needs to go to hay and oats only !!!!!! Nothing else allowed to show up on race day blood samples!

  • Raycing W

    While I agree with most comments with regard to this story, I see on occurring theme…don’t bet on Philly or Penn. If you want to argue this with regard to takeout, I understand. But if you think it is because they are “dirtier” than elsewhere, you are very mistaken.

  • disqus_wZUB6w9ANy

    Why is there a question of this , or any case of TB racing cheating being a federal issue. Money being wagered from different regions of the country on races in a particular state make it a federal crime. The bettors need an enforcer.
    I implore bettors to keep/organize stubs that were not winners, and review them and your computer wagers when there is a reversed result because of a drug infraction. If your stub is now a winner, sue the trainer and owner for your due winnings. Consider a class action through social media. Maybe then the newest 3 amigos at Parx will be forced out of the sport by the players instead of incompetent management or Commissioners.

    • Memories of Puchi

      interesting suggestion to sue the trainer and owner that committed the infraction. Is it possible to make that “stick”? What if you’re in another state but the crime is not listed as federal?

    • Bristling

      Who are the three amigos ?

  • Barrmorr

    Note to Pincus, Mollica and the rest of their cronies. You are on the wrong side of this argument. Protecting known people who violate the law puts you in the same category. Multiple violations should be punishable by prison time, not a slap on the wrist and a fine that is less than 1 day of training fees. This sport would be a lot better off without guys like you involved in it. When the wolves are guarding the hen house the chickens don’t stand a chance.

    • billy

      Exactly

      • Barrmorr

        To those who might not know, Drew Mollica was a successful jockey agent, including the late Chris Antley and Richard Migliore among his clients. You would think that having been an agent he would know the danger of horses running on medication that would not allow them to feel pain and could cause breakdowns and accidents on the track. It appears that all that has been forgotten in the search for the almighty dollar. Now he protects the dopers to the detriment of the sport that provided him with a very good living. It is hard to imagine someone with less ethics.

        • Drew Mollica

          With all due respect, no one understands the dangers of racing better than me. While I respect all of your opinions I respect the Constitution of the United States more. Your mob mentality of kick em all out and clean it up NOW is in my opinion sanctimonious BS. I respectfully posit that everyone in this country is entitled to a defense and further the Government needs to be held to a standard where due process never trumps the “goody good” nonsense permeates this dialog. Again I pray neither you or someone you love is ever accused of a crime or violation I dare say your diatribe about defense attorney ethics would sing a different tune. Last time I looked we still lived in the United States where the accused have rights and are innocent till proven guilty. Thanks to great attorneys like Joseph Faraldo and his advocacy in Barry v. Barchi due process applies to all licensees and it is my job to protect that right, and despite your innuendo to the contrary I intend to do so.

          • Barrmorr

            If caring more about the horses themselves than the people who drug them and you think that is sanctimonious BS BRING IT ON, I didn’t use innuendo I came right out and said it. Whenever a horse breaks down that is running on illegal medication the blame can be laid at the feet of the dopers and the people that protect them. Is that plain enough?

          • billy

            Very well said is a change in the rules for and about the horse really to much to ask every single other sport has made it safer and better for the athletes but not horse racing they play like it’s 1940 wake up and change your insulting policies or let your so called sport die in the dirt like the horses are forced to they have no voice and no vote they are simply at the mercy of the people that ” care” for them it’s about damn time we stop exploiting them

          • john caruso

            YOUR EXACTLY RIGHT AND FILTHY THIEVING MOLLICA IS WAVING HIS POCKET SIZED CONSTITUTION IN OUR FACES LIKE HILLARY’S WEASELLY IMMIGRATION ATTORNEY (KHAN) DID AT THE DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION.. HIDING BEHIND A SACRED DOCUMENT THAT THEY DISRESPECT EVERY CHANCE THEY GET. NOW WHEN THEY SEE IT AS THE ONLY HOPE BETWEEN THEM AND BUBBA MAKING THEM THERE NEWEST CELLBLOCK GIRLFRIEND THEY SWEAR TO UP HOLD IT..FAKE, PHONY,FRAUDS HAVE BEEN RIPPING US OFF SINCE DAY 1 AND LAUGHING ALL THE WAY TO THE WINDOWS..

          • Raycing W

            I understand and appreciate your view point. Without defense, simple accusation is allowed to ruin lives (even though I do believe she is guilty). That said, I think more tracks need to be privately owned, such as the Meadowlands. Gural has it right (imo), just rule off the unsavory. When we have repeat violators where the testing confirms cheating (split samples, etc.), legal wrangling that allows these people to continue to train, when knowing what dangers this cheating means to horses and riders, is then just wrong.

  • Well stated and thanks.

  • Hardly the point Drew baby. Nobody forces attorneys to defend cheats. My wish is that you become so wealthy saving the necks of the innocent that you can afford to tell the scumbags to go elsewhere!

    • Drew Mollica

      I stand by my client list . . . and I am presently fighting for the innocent and will continue to do so . . . on that point I do choose my clients . . . and as far as getting rich well I leave that to my friends in owner syndication, hope to see you in Lexington, Health and Happiness always good to exchange ideas!

  • billy

    Lol sounds like the tracks and commissions with the horsemen but that’s ok though just part of the game right…….

  • Barrmorr

    A trainer in Indiana was suspended for 15 years and fined $40,000 for abusing a horse. This person had 44 prior rulings against him and was still allowed to train. Unfortunately for him he’s in Indiana and not Pennsylvania where at Parx or Penn National they look the other way. It’s my guess that a certain person posting here thinks this sentence is way to harsh. In my opinion the only thing missing is prison time.

  • Susan C McDonough

    Just go to the website: horseracingwrongs and you will be shocked to learn about all the racehorses who are killed each year around this country. We have not even begun to scratch the surface on how corrupt this industry is and they are getting away with it every day.

  • MR.DR.

    Is the point of all of this…….that people are cheating? Betting?………..really?……..That’s what you all believe?

    • Barrmorr

      Once again a comment that would seem to be self incriminating. It sure sounds like you are part of the problem.

  • MR.DR.

    hey

  • Neigh Sayer

    This is good stuff Ray and I appreciate the research work to report this and keep this information coming. I never truly understood why these small players at Penn National were picked to be charged at such a serious high level. I don’t condone or defend what any of them did, but was always curious how it all came about or what FBI agent was looking for something to do and decided this was his play. These charges could be filed against any trainer and at any track in the country for any drug positive and all the same charges would apply in the exact same manner, so why such severity here while others little to nothing for the same thing.

  • papi chulo

    It could be worse, you could belong to the pewter Stable!!!!!

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