Arrogate’s Pegasus Entry May Be In Jeopardy Due To Rainy California Weather

by | 01.07.2017 | 3:25pm
Arrogate received special permission to jog over Santa Anita's muddy main track on Saturday morning

Bob Baffert hopes to work Arrogate Sunday if the weatherman cooperates and track conditions at Santa Anita are suitable.

The Hall of Fame trainer plans to run the Breeders' Cup Classic winner and finalist for Horse of the Year honors in the $12 million Pegasus World Cup Invitational at Gulfstream Park on Jan. 28, but needs to get a work into the four-year-old gray son of Unbridled's Song and has no margin for error time wise.

Arrogate last worked on Dec. 27, going six furlongs in 1:12.20 but Baffert has been unable to maintain a regular training regimen since due to a spate of wet weather.

Arrogate jogged two miles the wrong way on Santa Anita's main track at 9 a.m. Saturday with Dana Barnes aboard.

“If we can get a breeze in tomorrow, I don't see why we can't make it (the Pegasus),” Baffert said after the jog. “It's very important.”

Arrogate has won five straight races including a dramatic half-length victory over 2014 Horse of the Year California Chrome in the Classic at Santa Anita last Nov. 5 and a record-setting 13 ½-length romp in the Grade I Travers last August.

California Chrome, winner of 16 of 26 starts and earner of a record $14,502,650 for a North American-based Thoroughbred, left Friday for Florida and arrived safely to prepare for the inaugural running of the Pegasus, to be decided at 1 1/8 miles.

It will be the last race for the immensely popular six-year-old California-bred son of Lucky Pulpit, who will be retired to stud following the Pegasus, which could pair him against Arrogate in a widely anticipated rematch, if the fates allow.

  • Ryan

    CA didn’t want synthetic tracks yet they don’t want to work in the mud?

    • Bristling

      Synthetic is a joke. And a bad one at that.

      • Curt Muth

        So is California racing as far as the tracks are concerned, this is what happens when you have a minimal cushion on top of the asphalt base and it gets saturated to the point where they step right through and hit the base with their hoofs.

      • ben

        At least the horses were less at risk at the synth, but off course it are just horsies, commodities.

        • ben

          The design from the SA track, is not based on the rain, so much more horses will be hurt, if the rain keeps pouring.

    • longtimehorsewoman

      Great point!

  • Jack Frazier

    If he truly wants to run in the Pegasus, put him on a plane and ship him. I would love to see him and CC hook up one more time and feel it would be a very good race. Baffert is smart and no one can doubt his credentials and ability to get a horse ready for a race. I hope he worked. I know they can work on the training track at Santa Anita in inclement weather and with this high caliber race in the offing, since Stronach owns both tracks, they would most likely close it to other horses for a brief time to allow him to work. I always liked the training track there too.

    • Erin Casseday

      That was my thinking also. I know that there are always inherent risks with shipping, but you would think that it was an option that they would have at least considered thinking about.

      • Arrogate

        There is not another flight scheduled soon enough. And it rains in Florida, too.

        • Mr J

          BB messed up big time here,if he doesnt make the race. Hes the best dirt trainer in the world,but being on yhis situation is a mistake,to put it mildly

          • Arrogate

            I don’t think it was a mistake. I think he is working around something and therefore the wet weather and oft closed main track has more impact on this horse than others this week. Many of his horses worked this past week…..

          • Bev

            Dubai maybe?? YAY. NO rain there. ALL horses love it there. GOOD CHOICE. Why not BOTH?

          • Tyrone Floyd

            Florida weather has been great. Much better than California.

    • worldb.free

      Baffert has some serious issues, Jack. Credentials don’t matter when people are staring at you and you can’t do what you do in order to win. I agree with you, “put him on a plane.” Works at Gulfstream would be much more productive anyway.

      • Jack Frazier

        True. I have noticed many trainers at Santa Anita aren’t doing as well since they installed the camera’s in the barns. They need to be at San Luis Rey as well.

        • worldb.free

          Baffert finally got a winner. He is .06 now for 2017. What’s more telling is 10 of 16 ran off the board completely.

          • Arrogate

            Seems he did better with Bejarano as main man, not Garcia. But Garcia will carry the radio in the morning, and RB does not.

          • Jack Frazier

            Everyone has a slump, even the best. Begs to question why though doesn’t it?

        • 33horses

          Particularly in one barn!

        • David Juffet

          How about all tracks?

          • Jack Frazier

            Yes they do. One can already see the impact as good trainers who really train, are winning races and those who are a bit nefarious are not, or at least their percentages have dropped in the bottom of the well.

      • Mr. Blues

        True that

    • topkat

      Agree 100 percent they saway there was rain in the forecast a week ago what are you waiting for get out of there and go train run on the surface you will be racing on? You wonder what this guy thinks about shipped AP to Saratoga for the Travers at the very last minute then ran him all around the day before the Travers, what goes on with this guy?

      • worldb.free

        Do you remember when Charlie Whittingham snuck his vet into Belmont in a tack box? ;-)

        • Jack Frazier

          No. Recount the story.

      • Jack Frazier

        I have no idea other than maybe he doesn’t really want to face CC.

        • topkat

          Possibly but there is a pattern here if you recall all the talk about AP if he was going to go in the Travers the first clue was they capped attendance at 50,000 and still there was no announced event if memory serves me correct BBC committed about 2 weeks out shipped a tired animal last minute paraded him around on the Friday before the race, (I was there) and all that was cool but why wait there was PLENTY of time to ship and rest earlier just my opinion

          • Mr J

            Great trainer but huge blunder if he doesnt make the race

          • topkat

            Completely agree, and again great horse great opportunity what are you waiting for? Standing around staring at the rain coming down in CA making soup out of the racing surface? Get the animal to Florida let him get used to his stall, school in paddock and some works over the surface crazy did the exact same thing with AP and the Travers, I think he likes all the attention at this point, what will Bob do ? Where is Arrogate ?how is Arrogate ?will he run? Crazy

          • Mr J

            Or,as soneone stated below,send him to GG to train

          • topkat

            Yes anywhere except rainy CA crazy

          • Horsesfirst

            Shared Belief did all his training at GGF. Very safe track and weather proof.

          • Mr. Blues

            Spot on or should I say the spot light is on Baffert and thats what he likes so thats probably why his plans are unannounced

          • topkat

            Agreed, BB gonna roll into south florida with his beast and a police escort all eyes will be on him and produce a groundswell of media hype which NBC will need Co sideline they are committing 90 minutes to coverage, I will be there and firmly believe Espinosa will let that horse run like a freight train down the stretch and wreck the place!

          • Mr. Blues

            I will be there as well and I believe it will be CC in the winners circle weather Arrogate shows up or ducks

          • Always Curious

            Baffert is never one to duck the press. He knows just what to say and not to say. He also knows how to get a horse ready for a big one or in truth they are not ready. In another post I described him as cagey.

          • Mr. Blues

            How could you not have a horse ready for a race when you had months to prepare for.I think he doesn’t want to race against CC again.Doesn’t want to blemish his record as he knows he got lucky in BCC.Mike Smith beat Victor Esponosa…..not Arrogate beat CC

          • marcos

            Yes I mentioned that on another channel

          • Always Curious

            Crazy like a fox.

          • Lehane

            Agree.

          • Bev

            He scratched Arrogate out of the San Pasqual too for a wet track. Midnight Storm took that race.easily . Nobody slipped or slowed down. With Arrogates weight coming down on the track I doubt he slips. I’ve never been ON a dirt track. Not sure WHAT makes up the surfaces.

          • Jack Frazier

            Strange happenings at the Circle K. I don’t know but he should be there now if he is going to run. It seems strange. Training horses isn’t rocket science but who knows what science he is following?

          • Wayne

            How many grade 1s have you won? Eclipse award winners ? Ky. Derbys ?

          • Jack Frazier

            Well let’s see. I worked with D. Wayne from 1983 until I was injured when a horse flipped on top of me and tore my right leg all to hell and during that time I rode, led or was around: Winning Colors, Dynaformer, On The Line, Sacaquista, Is It True, Lost Kitty, Success Express, Tejano, Titillating, Open Mind, Total Woman,Tank’s Prospect, and more. A Kentucky Derby winner, several Preakness winners, a Belmont Stakes winner, and multiple Breeders Cup and Eclipse Award winners. I was in the barn helping to train all of those and doing whatever he told me to do.

            D. Wayne Lukas, in my opinion, surpasses anyone I have knowledge of, as a trainer because he had good horse, good help. is a consummate horseman, and listened and explained by his actions how to train. I worked with Jeff Lukas as well, who I consider the man who would have surpassed his father had he not been injured when he was run over by Tabasco Cat. That will probably not satisfy your question but it is the best I can give.

            Now tell me how many Grade I’s, Kentucky Derby, Preakness, Breeders Cup and Eclipse Award winners you have ever galloped, led, kor worked around.

          • Susanne Conway

            Wow.

          • Jack Frazier

            I was blessed, for a brief period of time, to work with a HOF trainer and many HOF horses as well. Most of the time, when I comment, I do have an idea about what I am talking about.

          • David Juffet

            We’re blessed that you comment on this site! Always a pleasure.

          • Jack Frazier

            Thank you for that comment. I love this site and I have been a very fortunate man in this business.

          • Cuffdaddy

            I agree! Love when Jack comments on anything

          • whirlaway

            Good response my friend Jack hope you doing good. Trainers can do their thing but with weather like it is and looks as if more rain next few days maybe heading to florida is an option. But to each his own.

          • Jack Frazier

            Thanks. I admit I was in the right place at the right time as well. I am doing well and looking forward to the Barrett’s Sale on the 17th. I have my Grade I winning Stallion Dime Que selling as #102 in the catalog. I will have a hefty reserve but I sure hope someone likes him enough to buy him. I only have one mare so he needs someone who can breed him to many. By Ocean Terrace, a son of Saint Ballado. Need some luck.

          • whirlaway

            It is important in life to not only be in the right place at the right time but be prepared to take advantage with skill and hard work which I am sure you had skill and worked to be ready.
            When the opportunity came along I have always believed in
            a bit of fate and luck to round everything out in one’s favor. Be watching for your stallion and wishing you the best.

          • Jack Frazier

            As do I. Thanks

          • Bev

            wow, you got to ride SO many GREAT horses. Great job. Can you ride at all now? Wow.

          • Jack Frazier

            Just for pleasure. I have a Trakehner gelding I ride. I also ride an Arabian, Eagle One, who was a two time California Horse of the Year in racing.

          • Mr. Blues

            Hey Jack thats some resume!
            Wondering if you ever ran at Garden State track as thats where i grew up.Sounds like you lived one heck of a life! God Bless you.I envy guys like you .You went out and did what you wanted to do and not what you had to do.I spent the last 40 years rebuilding transmissions for cars and trucks .I started out interested in it and the next thing you know 40 years went by and never really did anything I loved to do .My hat gpes off to you .Hero type

          • Jack Frazier

            Not a hero but I have served with some. I rode very well until 1966 and then joined the Navy. I spent four years, two of those in search and rescue operations in South Vietnam from Hue to Vung Tau and the USS Arikara. I saw real heroes there. When I came home in 1970, I had PTSD but didn’t know it. I traveled all over the country galloping and riding horses and I did spend a little time at old Rockingham Park and Garden State, although I did not ride races there. I was ready to off myself when D. Wayne hired me. He saved my life by giving me a chance to work with the best horses in the world at the time and I got to meet a lot of really great people. When I got hurt, since I had paid for college through my riding, I taught AP U.S. History and AP European History for twenty-two years, training my own horses until a couple of years ago when the effects of Agent Orange finally hit me. I was diagnosed with PTSD, and all the other things that came with Vietnam and am 80% disabled from the Vietnam War, but make no mistake, I am no hero. I know some though. Just a very lucky man who has lived a dream and now just comments away when I find the topic interesting.

          • Mr. Blues

            Sounds like you were surrounded by heros my friend.I too have seen guys come back from vietnam who were hit with Agent Orange and ptsd. Terrible times buddy.THANK YOU for your service Jack and God Bless You.In my eyes you have earned world respect

          • Jack Frazier

            I have known many heroes and as they say, “It is what it is”. I came back. Many didn’t Thank you.

          • Cuffdaddy

            Much respect for you Jack Frazier. Always look forward to your comments.

          • Jack Frazier

            Thank you.

          • Ron Maraz

            those are stupid questions, you shouldn’t comment again till you have something of substance to add to the DISCUSSION!

          • Lehane

            Exactly.

          • Bev

            I would pull a blood test NOW on Arrogate. He held AP back until day before the Travers too. WHY? Everybody knew who AP was. He won the Crown. AND AP was beefed up huge. Bulked up. Is it Steroids? And he has to wait until it’s out of his system? So many days. They don’t NEED anything but horse power unless they get hooked and NEEDy for it. Makes me suspicious why HE also doesn’t want to get his horse there to train on THAT track. That’s important. AND it could be because they still NEED SIX horses to fill the gates or no race? Talk about DUMB ASSES. He sold all the tickets to the wrong people. They don’t HAVE 12 horses. Yet.

          • Jack Frazier

            It will fill up or at least have eight or ten. The folks who bought the slots will lose unless they find someone to buy their slot, and they may lose anyway. I am sure blood work has been done. Baffert is smart and will do what it takes. Bet on that.

        • McGov

          If you consider the perspective of Arrogates connections…..it’s not REALLY the best move for Arrogate. It’s great for fans and great for history….but is it really a smart move for a new 4 yr old to enter his 2017 campaign by facing a champion of champions making his last start? After already beating him? Unless he beats him again without injuring himself in the process……not seeing upside really from their seat…..not one that warrants this level of risk.
          It would be the rematch of rematches, that’s for sure :)

          • Mr. Blues

            It’s the best compation he will see this year so why duck it if you think you have a horse that has what it takes! If there thinking Dubai why not run in both ? The money should be the motivation alone.

          • Mr. Blues

            Considering with the weak legs and all two races vs a year long campaign and that dosn’t compare!!!

          • ben

            Not for the owner from Arrogate, that is just a fine sportsman allowed Frankel to race another season at Four. And not by retiring him at three.

          • Mr. Blues

            Whats a horses value running 6 races and retiring? Considering he only ran a half season he should race a forth.but against who? He shoud run against CC then Dubia make the money while his legs are good!

          • Bev

            arrogate has won 4 grade ones. THAT is it. Beat CC but only by HALF a length. And it was a questionable ride. 4 grade ones and just turning age4….too young BUT that’s the age they usually do retire out of BB’s barn. I think the Sheik owns Arrogate. Maybe put him over to Godolphin to train. BB will burn him out EARLY.

          • Mr. Blues

            I don’t think Arrogate se’s the end of his forth year without retiring…if he’s lucky to stay healthy

          • Bev

            I get scared for Arrogate too. Overworked. He never goes out to JOG. Always bullet work. He should be in some Sprint races. LOL AND dirt track. HEY, Turf too. I’d try it all with him.

          • Mr. Blues

            I sure hope the best for Arrogate he is one fine looking Thorobred. But I still want the Champ California Chrome to beat his socks off

          • Bein

            Interesting comment under a story about Arrogate JOGGING two miles.

          • Decimus_D

            Juddmonte is owned by Prince Abdullah of the house of Saud (ruling family of Saudi Arabia). Juddmonte raced Frankel, who is nearly universally regarded as the best horse to race this century, through his 4 year old season.

            Godolphin is owned by the Maktoum family, headed by the ruler of Dubai Sheikh Maktoum. He is the Sheikh I am assuming you’re referring to. I highly doubt Juddmonte would transfer their current star to their closest racing rivals barn. That’s why I have a feeling they would far prefer to win in Maktoums backyard than at a first time race at Gulfstream.

            Anyway, I think these guys are in the business to win races. They kept Flintshire around til he was six. These guys are are a little different than your Reddams or Zayats, who are basically in it to get a restricted G1 and get out as quickly as possible to syndicate. I have a suspicion Arrogate will force his own retirement before Juddmonte voluntarily puts him out. Those Unbridled Songs often just don’t have a lot of starts in them.

          • Jack Frazier

            Agreed, but it sure would settle the big question; Is he as good as we think? I am a fan of Arrogate as well as CC.

          • Bev

            He’s fresh and new. AND has had rests. CC has had no rest since he began LAST Jan. 2016. If you all remember back when CC was his age……he won everything in site.They’re full of testosterone and pumped. The fact is the TWO of them will draw a huge crowd. Even though that track only seats 12,000. ??? wth haha THEY want to draw a crowd. AND would pay REALL?Y good to either one to place second too. BUT this will START Arrogates year off right….like a Beast. Make HIM top dog for the year. He made $4million all ready in the BCC. He held AP back to the day before the Travers too…..and he lost. Best to get him to Fla to work on that track. Is he hiding /using drugs? Why he waits so long? Wondering. Arro does’t NEED steroids. LOL AS far as we know. Humans panic though. Horses HAVE horse power. That’s all they need.I’m not accusing. Just wondering. Nothing new at all .

          • Jack Frazier

            I have always believed a mature horse, such as Chrome, has an advantage over a developing, younger horse. They do not become a full horse until age six and until that time are reaching their potential. Steroids aside, it will be a great race and if both run their race, look out.

          • Bev

            Exactly. They BOTH show they love to dance. This whole past year has been full of great CLOSE CALL Challenge races. Was a great year. Now CC retiring. So there’s only a few who can do challenges.

          • Jack Frazier

            Much anticipation just thinking about it.

          • McGov

            I am also a big fan of both. I would love to see a rematch and I think it’s sporting of Arrogate connections to consider. Like staying at the poker table after cleaning up already ;). I don’t think Arrogate has to worry too much about facing another horse as good as CC after this…..but back to back to back efforts at that level are tough on a developing horse….I am more excited about the prospect of seeing Arrogate at the end of his 4 yr old campaign, at his more developed best. He is somethin. It’s a toss up for me really….but both horses are in excellent hands so I’m sure the best decisions will be made accordingly.

          • Jack Frazier

            I couldn’t agree more. If, and it is still a big if, he is as good as it appears, there is nothing out there yet, to match him. Of course there are always horses reaching their peak levels and after all, it is horse racing. I just hope it is as big a deal as they are making it out to be. Sometimes they just aren’t. I remember Seattle Slew being beaten at Santa Anita when it looked like he had a lock.

          • Bev

            next year at age 5…..if he’s still this good. He’ll own the worlds races.

          • mongo98

            $12 Million upsiders, Pal.

          • McGov

            That’s nothing in comparison to his POTENTIAL at stud. He first must do what CC has done and establish himself. If he hurts himself in trying to win the Pegasus…..like so many other great POTENTIALS….then you better hope he wins because that’s his last big pay day.
            That’s my opinion on strictly the risk in this decision to race Arrogate against a horse like CC…..after JUST beating him.
            Having said that it would be awesome to see and if it happens I hope everyone comes out safe :)

        • Meydan Rocks

          My thinking is…

          Pegasus = USFL league. Probably gone in 5 years. Dubai = NFL league. Credentials last a lifetime and the race will probably be here in 50 years. CC already has his name inscribed on that NFL silver cup.
          I’m assuming Judmonte like CC’s outfit are big game hunters but one has been around a few moons and can afford to pick and choose. The other wants to make the most out of the lightening they have in their bottle. You never know if it will come around again in their lifetime.

          • Jack Frazier

            Or maybe it is just an attempt by Stronach to get some interest in racing. Who knows? I like the idea of the best horses in one race but I thought that was the Breeders Cup plan. If this were run in December after the Classic and was by invitation, instead of January there might have been more interest. Timing is everything.

          • Meydan Rocks

            Exactly! I LOVE the idea but the positioning of it in the racing calendar? I don’t know.

          • Jack Frazier

            Seems feasible.

    • Wayne

      They will probably work him between races later in the day

      • Jack Frazier

        I hope so and we can watch him work. I sure would like to see them hook up again, no matter which horse wins. Both are dead center race horses with great trainers.

        • Mr. Blues

          It would be awesome to see both side by side in the starting gate wouldn’t you agrea

          • Jack Frazier

            Me too. Too bad CC is retiring from racing for it would have harkened to an earlier time when Alydar and Affirmed, Easy Goer and Sunday Silence, Kelso and Gun Bow, faced off against each other. We need more of that.

    • Energic

      Jack you are right, Bob is making excuses. Ship him to the sunshine State of Florida!!!!

      Cal Chrome is here waiting!

      • Jack Frazier

        Well, he got the work in so I am ready for the race. Let’s hope he is in it.

  • Richard C

    The headline seems a little TMZ.

    • MA

      Yes. Click-bait.

    • Meydan Rocks

      and TMZ rules the world.

      PS: Paulick just won an Eclipse or two didn’t they?

  • Tinky

    Miss the race because of rainy weather? Please.

    Is he an outstanding Champion, or not?

    • Arrogate

      Voting for 2016 HOY should not be impacted in the least by a training setback in 2017.

      • Tinky

        Right – because he is being treated as if he were made of glass.

        Then again, he is by Unbridled’s Song…

        • Ryan

          Here’s a scenario. What if the Pegasus comes up with an off track? Does he again not run?

          • worldb.free

            Ryan, he’s not running in the Pegasus if the other eight or nine scratch.

        • lastromantibune

          “he is by Unbridled’s Song”….you see ? …I agree..

        • Arrogate

          With a crack. You are losing your fastball Tink…

          • Mr J

            2017 will be about the Chromies attacking Baffert every chance they get,trying to preserve CCs legacy,praying Arrogate doesnt break his record

          • Judy Gaddis

            Just because people think that Baffert is doing Arrogate an injustice by not already having him in Florida, training on the track where the Pegasus will be run combined with the fact that they think Chrome will win the race does not make someone a “Chromie”. That moniker is getting just a bit tiresome………………….

          • Mr J

            Why the hell would he have his horse in Gulf 3 weeks prior. His routine worked for him in the Travers.

          • Judy Gaddis

            Because Baffert is complaining that his “training schedule” is falling behind because all of the rain in CA has made Santa Anita a mud hole, THAT’S WHY!

          • Mr J

            Judy,Judy,Judy. It doesnt work like that,dear

        • worldb.free

          Sorry. I see you got five up votes. That’s great, except this horse is bred front, back and two generations back to move faster the deeper it gets. His mud number, although not in front of me, is as strong as a horse can gets, and I’m guessing it’s in the 400s. Next . . . two and two equals four. When was the last YEAR, Bob won A RACE??? November 2016?

          • Tinky

            You apparently missed the much more obvious reference. Unbridled’s Song’s stock was typically unsound.

          • worldb.free

            My bad. I did miss that in all the talk about his NON MUD breeding. LOL. :)

          • OopsyDaisy3

            Exactly and i have a deep concern for the big fella. Linda

          • Lehane

            With the way Arrogate is being managed tells me he has soundness issues.

      • worldb.free

        Is that supposed to impress us? LOL. Wow, it rains every Saturday from now until 2018 and there is no more racing. “Whoa, it’s cloudy. It might rain!” Do you think horses in the wild run at full speed during Hurricanes and Tornados? You bet they do, and few if any ever fall down. Better horses than Arrogate raced in ankle deep mud (when that existed), slop, fast, frozen, turf and artificial. Baffert might be suckering some novices.

        • Mr J

          Slop at Gulf is much different than at SA.

          • worldb.free

            Slop is different everywhere. I guess I’m missing you point.

        • Arrogate

          I’d guess it is more likely that you have no idea how to read nuance in a training pattern or what a trainer reveals.

          • worldb.free

            No clue what that means, Arrogate, and doubt anyone else knows either. Nor what that has to do with my above post about horses can work or train over any surface – and would be best served working or training over Gulfstream Park if that is where they next intend to race. Some horses work Nov. 25, Dec. 24, Jan. 3, and then race. Others work every 5, 6 or 7 days. Some work 4F or 5F or 6F or any combination of those. Others gallop out a mile. I have no idea what you are referring to about any universal training patterns. The only thing “revealed” is how often one wins. Baffert finally went from .00 to 06 percent. Maybe you’re one of the novices that Baffert is suckering, who knows. You don’t sound like you’ve been around 50-75 years. ;)

      • Mr J

        Yup,that was a dumb statement re: 2016

    • Meydan Rocks

      Tiny Tinky dear Tinky! You think they give two hoots about HOY? Anything beyond 3 year old Champ (which some think is STILL Nyquit’s to lose) is pure ICING on the cupcake. Besides, I do believe that the voting has been over eons ago.

      • lastromantibune

        STILL Nyquit’s to lose…….there is no way he is 3yo of the year. period…take that to the bank…walk-over…..shoe-in…..notta…..nulla…….lmao.

        • Meydan Rocks

          You’re a-hurtin a whole lotta folk with that kinda talk you know?

        • Meydan Rocks

          :-)

      • Flag Is Up

        I’d have to think Nyquist will finish second to Arrogate in 3 year old and Arrogate will finish second to California Chrome in HOY voting.

        • Meydan Rocks

          I think you’ve nailed it.

      • C Hogan

        CC won months ago.

        • Meydan Rocks

          Exactly, now let him mop up some extra cash beating up on the USFL league players and have Arrogate go get his NFL Dubai credentials (which aren’t guaranteed by the way). Those foreign horses bring it every time.

    • lastromantibune

      this IS another …Different …YEAR Tinky….I truly respect your opinions as most times are well thought out….but last year is last year and just because the race is so close to Jan. 1 does not mean you can just add more time to the year for HOY voting…..sort of like moving the finish line during the race don’t you think ? most times I agree with you…cannot this time….

      • Tinky

        You (and others) need to read more carefully. I didn’t suggest that voters should take a 2017 race into account, but that part of being a true Champions is overcoming obstacles, and wet tracks barely even qualify.

        • Always Curious

          CC has run on 9 different tracks too. Baffert is cagey. He has brought the colt along slowly for a reason or reasons. Sometimes Baffert is off the board on how great a race a horse will perform, other times he doesn’t know what horse has the best shot. He is good at bringing a horse to peak for a big race. Maybe Arrogate is not ready to peak for Pegasus. Maybe his peak was the BC and is going backwards at this point. Maybe Baffert is just blowing smoke to keep us all talking about Arrogate. Who knows?? Giving up a trip to Dubai with lots of prep time there with a 10 million purse is very attractive.

  • Meydan Rocks

    Games, Games, the Games people play!

    Fine you don’t want to run in the USFL league game and would rather run in the NFL Dubai game. Fine. Just tell us. :-)

  • SPA

    I can just hear Woody Stephens saying that now about one of his “great” horses….lol.

  • Flag Is Up

    Anyone want to bet that a bruised hoof will be the next headline?

  • Stephanie

    Call me a hater but I have been skeptical all along that this colt would go to the Pegasus. I was surprised when Juddmonte purchased Coolmores slot but there could be more to that deal than truly meets the eye. I am an Arrrogate fan but I will be surprised if he actually lines up.

    • Lawrence R

      You are a hater. There are you happy now.

    • C Hogan

      No way he shows up.

  • Michael Beauregard

    If a racing fan wants to go to the Pegasus he has to pay 100.00 admission fee Mr Stronach must be the king of greed . Lots of fans don’t even bet a hundred a day. This is a slap in the face to racing fans.

    • C Hogan

      Try getting a seat at the Derby.

      • Erin Casseday

        Depends if you want a grandstand seat or not. My neice bought a ticket for general admission and it was very reasonable.

      • worldb.free

        This is NOT the Kentucky Derby. We are quickly becoming a nation of the “haves” and the “have nots.” It costs $400 for one person to watch a Jets game from the 20 yard line. That’s $800 a pair, times 8 games ($6400); preseason games. Annual license ($300-$30,000 per seat). Two tickets for an awful team? *($10,000). If you go all the way with home team advantage and Super Bowl, you’re looking about $24,000 for two “decent, not primo” seats. There is a FIRST quarter special where all the main food items (kosher dog, ballpark dog, pretzels, nuggets, soda) are $1 each. However, if you order a cardboard pizza it is face value – $30. A water is $7. A beer is $12. A soda is $7. Parking is $20 to $100. Don’t you think all the good seats are owned by people making $500,000 or more? Lastly, when you walk into the gift shop, don’t get sticker shocked to spend $30 to $150 for a Jersey. (But I agree. Other than preferred seating and parking included, $100 is extreme. I think a special parking fee of $10 and admission of $20 would be pushing the envelope. It’s only ONE RACE with NO HISTORY that isn’t going to have FOUR RATED HORSES, much less a full field. Sure people would love to see it. Few will fly down and pay premium rates to watch the race if they don’t have a stake in it.

        • OopsyDaisy3

          You are spot on regarding the prices. Thought i would drive 160 miles to watch the Cowboys in their new Stadiium. Had not been to the new stadium since the Cowboys were losing eons ago in the old one and a lawyer friend gave me 2 tickets and a parking permit. Turned out to be a win and they went on that year to score big. But friends go regularly now and they tell me all about the prices. I prefer to watch on my computer and not have to pay the sticker shock rates.
          A shame regarding The Pegasus that the real fans who might not bet but just enjoy horse racing will be priced out of contention. Linda

          • worldb.free

            Gotten absurd. Your friend probably gave you a $250 if the seats were bad and a lot more for good ones. Many buy the season and SELL THE BEST GAMES on Stub Hub hoping to get back 25-100 percent of their money to go see the other games at a discount or for free. A racetrack trying to promote the game while charging $100 at the door, isn’t really looking to fill the building. It’s the inaugural year for the race, so they may get away with selling 25,000 or more. But if they make this mistake in the second year they’ll find only 18,000 are available and that’s hoping against hope that fans come from all over the world to see the race.

    • worldb.free

      That won’t enhance anything. Do you think 35,000 are going to cough up $100? They’ll go over to the greyhound track and get paid a $2 voucher. In fact, competing tracks should come up with a Pegasus Day Giveaway to make a big day bigger for a smaller track.

      • Arrogate

        That track wouldn’t hold 35,000 if they were all Barbie dolls. It’s more of a TV event.

    • mike

      They only want the elites there not the “stooper’s”!

    • Lehane

      Charging $100 admission is rude.

  • Ida Lee

    Oh please…give me a break …. it’s too early in the year for this kind of headline …

    • worldb.free

      Actually the year is now August (Del Mar, Saratoga) through April (Dubai). So we are approaching the end of the year – in new terms. The two biggest races after the BCC now.

  • worldb.free

    Baffert might win a race at Santa Anita this year. Then again he might not. Are we supposed to buy into this crap about Arrogate not being able to work over the VERY DEEP Santa Anita slop? Haha. Look at the photo. It is .4 or at most a half inch deep at any point over the main course. Work him or don’t work him, but don’t blame the horse for you own issues, Bobby. Why not work him at Gulfstream? LOL. Let’s assume he is not going to race and your back to your excuses.

    • BeastBob

      SA slop is fast. According to Beyer, it was super fast as Midnight Storm received a 101 BSF for zipping through 8.5f in 1:40

      • Lawrence R

        It is also very hard underneath that slop. and they can slip and side. Perfect conditions under which to severely injure a horse.

  • worldb.free

    I’m guessing they are looking for a sucker to syndicate this horse, and he cannot race. Either that, or he can’t race without what he was racing on last year. And, Baffert hasn’t won a race with anything in so long I guess none of them can. Something isn’t right. Horses do not stop training because a track is WET. Not this horse and not any horse who hasn’t refused to go out on the track in the rain or mud. Because if a track was four seconds off a work in 1:15 (for 6F) would still be a 1:11 work.

    • Tyrone Floyd

      MR J is mad at you.

  • Chromie4Life

    Transfer the horse to the Hollendorfer barn and let Jerry leg him up at Golden Gate and fly out of frisco….#sharedbelief

    • Mr J

      Bringing him to GG would have been a great idea,but Barnes could have overseen his training

  • Tyrone Floyd

    I said yesterday in another post that it looked as if Baffert was training Arrogate in a wait and see mode. he wanted to get him ready for the San Pasqual first and then see if he could get him to top form for a rematch rematch with California Chrome. Juddmonte buying that spot in the Pegasus place more pressure on getting this horse ready for Jan 28th in Florida. The trainer may have had his long range focus on Dubai. I don’t expect to see Arrogate in Florida but it would be great if he made that race to take his beating from Chrome like a champion. I’ve also advocated that if Juddmonte/Baffert ducked California Chrome in the Pegasus that Taylor Made delay his retirement until after Dubai.

    • Mr J

      Hahaha. Why would he duck CC ?. Odd statement since he already beat him. And CC wont have an uncontested lead here

      • Tyrone Floyd

        A stalking horse cares not about who’s on the lead. The track configuration of Gulfstream Parks favors the the “Big Cali Chesnut”.
        Mike Smith beat Victor Espinosa. I’ve watched all the races California Chrome & Arrogate had in 2016. That race was Chromes to lose and that’s just what Victor did. Arrogate won the BC Classic when Victor Espinosa let him back in the race heading from the backstretch into the turn, Victor held Chrome back whebn he should have let him run on at the 3/8th pole. There are a few who want to believe that a fourth length lead off the turn would not have made a difference, it cost Taylor Made the win. Sunday Silence owners never ducked Easy Goer. If the owners of Arrogate believe he is a great horse, show up and prove Nov. 5th was no fluke. Don’t run and hide in the desert of Dubai where your horse is not going to win without his lasix anyway.

        • Mr. Blues

          Spot on Tyrone floyd ,this is making me very nervous. I have my ticket to the Pegasus and I am driving 1200 miles to see it .If Baffert ducks I’ll be so pissed.You would think if he were running he’d be there prepping already!If he doesn’t announce something this week you will know he is nothing but a lame duck and I don’t care if anyone wonders if I’m talking about the trainer or the horse!!

        • Mr J

          If either draws an outside post at Gulf,they are in a world of trouble. The SA track bias favored CC over the grey locomotive. CC will have company up front. No loose on the lead setting easy fractions on a speed bias track. All is moot if Arrogate doesnt go,and I wil have no interest watching him beat Dort,Point Piper,Hopp all year as CC did last year

          • Mr. Blues

            CC didn’t pick his compation this past year just as Arrogate won’t be picking his this year.You can only put the blame on early retirement of other horse’s.when you are the best all you can do is look down the list….If you want any kind of compation for Arrogate this year he better start prepping for the Pegasus cause thats the best your gonna get for your so called locomotive!

          • Mr J

            Yup and the best CC got last year was Arrogate. And he lost. Im not intetested in either one whipping up on tomato cans

          • Mr. Blues

            So do you think he should retire now with what 6 races under his belt Cc ran 27 or do you think he should run the Pegasus and Dubai?

          • Mr J

            He should break CCs record and retire. Im not interested in him beating gr 2/3 turf horses in Dubai and whipping the aforementioned tomato cana. In other words it will be a copy of CCs schedule. The handicap division is a joke again

          • Mr. Blues

            Yep and you can blame it on too many early retirements.
            The only reason Arrogate had CC to run against is because CC ran till his 5th season.a matured horse .Hardly seen in todays standards

          • Mr. Blues

            The best would be if they drew post next to each other

        • Always Curious

          You are absolutely right! Mike Smith won that race. He ran that horse like the dickens. A far better ride than Victor. Smith was scrubbing that horse like his life depended on it! He used the whip too. Victor was asleep at the wheel. Victor is “one lucky Mexican”. He experienced great luck in getting to ride CC and AP. He just is not consistent. Superior ride in Dubai 2016 with the saddle slipping, bad job in the Breeder’s Cup Classic. Smith is the best right now. He gets the best out of whatever horse he rides. The results would have flipped if the jockeys were flipped too.

          • Tyrone Floyd

            The race will great regardless if Juddmonte bring their horse or leaves him out of the gate. Go California Chrome!!

        • Always Curious

          I absolutely agree that Mike Smith won the race for Arrogate. He scrubbed and used the whip to win like his life depended on it. Victor was asleep at the wheel. He is just inconsistent. He gave CC a great ride in Dubai when the saddle slipped and a bad one in the BCC. Victor was very lucky (he described himself as “one lucky……” when AP won the Belmont. He is very fortunate to get the job on 2 super horses. Mike Smith is just the best jockey right now. That’s why they call him Big Money Mike. I think my post was flagged and deleted because of the quote from Victor. I really am sorry if I offended someone. ANYONE of any race, color or creed would or should consider himself one lucky jockey to ride those 2 horses. I do hope Arrogate shows up at the Pegasus to settle the score. Victor won’t be saving the horse and should be flat and hopefully give him the ride of his life. CC deserves it. Personally I think Arrogate will go to Dubai but I have no crystal ball.

          • Mr. Blues

            I hope your wrong.I’m driving 1200 miles for this rematch .If there is a no rematch or last min. Scratch I’ll be pissed…I’ll leave and go to the beach

      • worldb.free

        Why would he duck the top horse on Earth is indeed a good question, not a “haha.” The reason being he is a young horse who is pointed to race at least through 2017. CC is pointed to quit after the Pegasus. Do you know that horses can run much harder and faster than we witness when the jockey has been told “bottom them.” That is the “Green Light” to destruction. Arrogate was valiant in the BCC. Forgetting times (as they vary), Arrogate will have to run much HARDER for TWICE the PURSE as the BCC against a horse who will never have a chance to win again. Remember how American Pharoah looked in his final start?

        • Mr J

          Oh,so CC didnt run his hardest in the BCC ? Gotcha

          • Always Curious

            Smith gave a Much Better ride to Arrogate than Victor to CC. Chrome always tries his best.

          • Guest

            You’ve got that right!!!

          • worldb.free

            No, I’m not sure you do get it or you wouldn’t have responded like that. Let me explain: CC’s hardest would have been to open another 5 lengths on the turn. If the BCC race was a 120. I’m thinking a win at all costs in the Breeders Cup Classic, for either horse, would have been 125-130. You rarely see a GREAT horse run his “hardest.” Secretariat wasn’t running hard in the Belmont or at Woodbine. Horses run fast enough to win. When they cannot win they often are not pressed. For example, Arrogate didn’t run “hard” until 70 yards away from the finish line. During that last 70 yards, CC only race hard for 40 yards (knowing he was being ground down with 20 yards to go). What separates good from “great” is the ability to continually fire 11’s and 12’s – not only race after race – but multiple times within a race, when necessary. Races in the USA horses go fastest out of the gate and get slower as the race goes on. For $12 million the last quarter might be as fast as the first – something we do not know, as there never has been so much money at stake. We do know CC worked a faster last eighth the other morning than any horse has ever raced a final eight. A TOP horse has two :21’s and change (400m) and two :22’s and change, dispensed over 2000 meters. I think we could see the FASTEST LAST QUARTER in T-bred history for a $7 million check. I expect the last quarter to go sub :23 and maybe a LOT faster – if all the top horses show up to duke it out.

          • Always Curious

            CC has dug in and kicked into another gear is past races. He always goes faster, runs fastest the last 1/8 unless geared down. I look forward to seeing all CC has in his final race. I think it will look a lot like his Dubai where he completely outclassed the field. He was prepped there and at peak physically.

          • Mr. Blues

            there won’t be any gearing down in this race. Victor will run
            Through the wire at full spead you can count on it !

          • Mr J

            You’re tripping. It was CCs best number ever. And if he runs faster earlier he gets beat by 2 or 3 instead of 1/2. And his number is 118. Arrogate set the track record for 10f at Toga

          • worldb.free

            Haha, I might be tripping. But you, my friend, are a novice. The last four furlongs were run in :49.4 and Arrogate couldn’t keep up until the final few yards. He didn’t win by a length. So he passed a tired horse in the shadow of the wire. The final time, although extremely strong, is many SECONDS off a world record, as the final time was in 2:00.11 (in other words, CC, after setting all the fractions went in 2:00.17).

          • Mr. Blues

            Lets hope they line up together

        • Always Curious

          I see your point about Baffert when AP went to the BCC with instructions to Victor not to hold him back, let him roll. Show us just how good he is. What a great moment. I think and hope we get this moment with CC. I think those will be Victor’s instructions this time and he should be wise enough to take them this time. He said prior to the BCC that all plans for a ride are out the window after the starting gait and he makes all his own decisions. Let’s see Chrome go for it all. Victor, ride the race of your life!

          • Mr. Blues

            i understanding what you are saying!

      • Lehane

        Espinoza lost that race for CC. Stupid ride with him focused on where Arrogate was instead of focusing on CC.

        • Mr J

          Excuses are for losers

        • Mr J

          Grow up

        • Mr. Blues

          Agreed

    • Mr. Blues

      Sounds good we already know Cc can handle the ride to Dubia .I wonder if Arrogate can? Its all up to Taylor Made…..Sorry to say but I think he retires and Arrogate Ducks

    • greg

      I’ve posted this several times on different articles but I’ll repeat, I will be surprised if Arrogate ships to FL. and if he does he won’t win. I have seen almost every one of his works, his last 3 are much different than his Pre-BC works, his motion is different and he seems to be working harder that he had, I think Baffert will scratch on the premise “we just missed too much training and it’ll be a long year with many other opportunities” however IF he ships he’s a bet against for me

  • Michael Castellano

    Florida often is effected by a dry period in January. Winter is generally a dry season there. You would think the trainer might want to do the prep work there at the same track a 12 million dollar race will be run rather than California, especially with the rain being offered as an excuse for not working him. Makes you wonder what the real reasons are for not wanting to ship there early. And remaining in California at the height of the single wet period they usually have each year. I’m of the opinion that he does not run in the Pegasus. One can speculate as to the reasons, but it appears he is reluctant to run.

    • Tyrone Floyd

      Too many eyes in Florida maybe. How is SA too wet to train but it’s not too wet to hold races yesterday? Arrogate is not to blame. I’m sure he’d rather be working in mud than walking shed row. It rains in the winter down here in Florida, heck it rained most of yesterday. Bob Baffert might as well get his horse ready to run on a wet track because it is a very real possibility that the track will be wet on Jan 28th. Rain storms in Florida can form overland anytime regardless of the time of year.

  • mike

    He was never going to begin with – I can’t read the faker Baffy – most cannot!

    • Mr J

      Looks like he’s going. You’re wrong again

      • mike

        U don’t know Baffy!

        • Mr J

          No but I know his achievements,which dwarf every other current trainer

          • mike

            I agree like having 8 horses drop-dead from mysterious heart attacks!

          • Mr J

            Old news Relva. Get over it

  • mike

    Lazy Baffy could have shipped early like Chrome everyone knows January is the worst weather month in Cali!

    • Mr J

      You’re all wet,gnat

  • Jeff Bolton

    This isn’t a normal G1 the purse monies is huge if he doesn’t ship to Florida right away he has no intention on running Arrogate it will be an excuse. Not that he is scared of CC but his horse has missed a race and everything hasn’t been clicking at the top level I don’t blame him for not running Arrogate but don’t piss down the back of my neck and tell me it’s raining. It’s going to take his A game to beat CC so if his training has not allowed him to bring his A game don’t run. It cost him with AP.

  • SteveD

    If BB is not talking about when he’s going by now.. he’s probably not going.
    I think the success of the Pegasus depended on the CC / Arrogate rematch. What a shame.

    • tony a

      Almost sounds like just before the Travers with AP.

  • California Flash

    Why haven’t this horse been training in Florida all along ? Baffert has some of the best help in the world, and the electric gadgets available would keep him in close touch.Don’t understand.

  • johnnyknj

    An “Iron Horse” he ain’t.

    • Mr J

      He’ll run as much as any other top horse does this year, 6-7 times,just like last year

      • johnnyknj

        Let’s see – a pricey Unbridleds’ Song yearling who didn’t make his first start til April of his 3yo season and has turned out to be top-class while making 4 starts in the 7 months since breaking his maiden. I would wager he will not make 6 starts this year. But a difference of opinion is what makes a you know what.

        • Mr J

          Hey liar, he ran 6 times from April to November.

  • Bill B.

    I cannot believe that Baffert is going to skip the richest race ever run with a BC Classic winner due to unwillingness to train him on a wet track or ship him to Florida now. I assume that if he’s not willing to train him on a wet track, he’s not going to be willing to run him on one either. Accuweather says their is going to be increasing cloudiness that day. That might be too much for Baffert to handle. There could be some rain in those clouds! Ridiculousness. With AP’s short racing career and this one being handled like he’s glass, Baffert seems to have lost his gamesmanship, something that he at one time he had plenty of.

    • Mr J

      BB didnt own AP. You should try to know what you’re posting about

      • Bill B.

        Oh I know that, though I’m sure he had some influence in the topic, but I am just venting. I’ve been involved with racing for getting close to 50 years now and I am just so frustrated by the increasing lack of sportsmanship in this game.

  • horsepower

    horse worked 3/4’s in 1:11 4 today he will be there……..Chrome is the better horse and has the better team of horsemen around him. Arrogate has the better Pre Race management. I for one am hoping Chrome runs them all of their feet but the match up is good for racing and in spite of some that like to just criticize, thank god for the efforts of TEAM STRONACH to support our Industry.

    • Mr J

      Better horse wins on the track,not in your heart. Better horseman have 3 BCCs in a row, TC, 4 Derbies etc. etc.

      • horsepower

        10 BCCs in a row does not mean better horseman ……..no doubt a better Pre Race Program. If it doesn’t kill them, it will make them go faster……NICE

        Equally unsettling is the fact that of the 36 horses succumbing to sudden death in the state of California during the period July 1, 2011 through March 31, 2013 seven were stabled with Baffert — 19.4%. Another article “Putting California sudden death numbers in perspective” taken from The Paulick Report lends insight to the disconcerting nature of the situation.

        “Looked at another way, one trainer with 2.5% of the horses and 1.5% of the total starts has had 19.4% of the sudden deaths over a 21-month period.”

        • Mr J

          Coincidence or fake news. Either way its old news . And your heartthrob has at least 8 violations and a suspension

          • horsepower

            COINCIDENCE or FAKE ??? Are you : A / NEW B / NAIVE C/ AN ENABLER or D/ or ON The BB Train

            Here’s a little more for you to chew on……..You will likely have a story on this entire list as well or perhaps it’s all just FAKE ? you might do a little due diligence on the facts ?

            BOB BAFFERT

            Racehorse Doping Trainer Violations List

            Moving on to Bob Baffert.

            To start, in 2013 Bob Baffert was number three on the list of top trainers by earnings with the most medication violations – a total of 20 violations resulting in 545 starts per medication violation. [5]

            This list itself changes from year-to-year however Baffert always manages to make it into one of the top positions.

            For example in 2010 Baffert (465 starts per violation) maintained that bronze medal position just edging out John Sadler (478 starts per violation) who had to settle for fourth that year. [6] Both consistent repeat offenders near the top of the list.

            The most recent scandal associated with Baffert is the rash of mysterious “sudden deaths” due to cardiovascular/pulmonary failures of seven race horses over the course of several months (November 4, 2011 through March 14, 2013). [7]

            What is particularly disturbing about these deaths is that by all accounts sudden death failures are a relatively rare occurrence, together with the fact that of the total number of “sudden deaths” over the same time period roughly 20% were stabled with Baffert.

            As expected, Baffert was cleared in the sudden deaths of the seven horses by the California Horse Racing Board (CHRB). An extensive investigation concluded there was no evidence of wrongdoing yet the CHRB could find no specific reason for the abnormal number of deaths in one stable – inconclusive at best – Dr. Rick Arthur to the rescue of course.

            The question remains as to whether the results were inconclusive or intentionally covered up? One will never know, however it is well recognized that the CHRB and the members of the TOC (Thoroughbred Owners of California) are chronically corrupt – no one it seems has the power to enforce rules and disband the manipulators even after all these years of lies and deceit.

            There are several theories of what may have gone wrong in the sudden deaths of Baffert’s horses. One is linked to the finding of a rodenticide in one of the horses, an anti-coagulant that thins the blood. But why would anyone administer an anticoagulant to a horse, particularly since it is a highly toxic compound in EPA Toxicity Class I?

            EPO has been widely used as a performance-enhancing drug despite being an illicit drug in horse racing. EPO increases the number of red cells circulating in the blood which increases its viscosity but also increasing its oxygen carrying capacity and hence endurance. From a doping perspective the administration of an anticoagulant such as Diphacinone will counterbalance the effect of thicken blood. Conjecture, well yes but . . . .

            Then there is the administration of Thyro-L (levothyroxine) to “all” of his horses regardless of their thyroid function wherein Baffert was using it as a supplement rather than medication.

            Thyro-L is a thyroid hormone (T4) used to treat hypothyroidism, a condition where the body fails to produce a sufficient amount of thyroxine which revs up the metabolism. In doing so Baffert was clearly doping.

            The fact that a drug is administered when there is no apparent underlying condition present is simply seeking to achieve a surrogate benefit; in this case enhanced performance (speed) due to weight loss. Of course Baffert (and Asmussen) gave it to all of his horses. He was legally cheating to win.

            Don’t forget Baffert’s past either and the disappointing decision made by the CHRB.

            Initially the CHRB suspended Baffert for 60 days after the horse Nautical Look tested positive for morphine after finishing first in the 7th race at Hollywood Park on May 3, 2000.

            Baffert however appealed the decision using the pretext that the morphine positive was pharmacologically insignificant and likely resulted from environmental contamination – from poppy seed bagels consumed by stable employees (poppy seeds contain opium alkaloids one of which is morphine).

            If administering morphine to enhance a horse’s performance isn’t bad enough, Baffert had the audacity to coerce a groom in his employ to lie to investigators. Baffert testified that the positive finding was a result of “unintentional contamination” from a food source containing poppy seeds (poppy seeds contain opiate alkaloids one of which is morphine).

            While it is true that poppy seeds can generate false positive drug tests, Baffert went a step further. When notified of the positive result he repeatedly contacted his groom and encouraged him to admit to eating bakery products while in close proximity to the horse Nautical Look.

            If that doesn’t reek of guilt, what does?

            In any case, the CHRB dismissed the case after 5 years despite the fact that there was lax security in the barn the evening before with no night watchman. Moreover Baffert’s attorney argued that Nautical Look’s blood sample was part of a batch randomly discarded as a cost-cutting measure so there was no blood to test to support the results of the urine sample. What wasn’t mentioned is that a separate split sample was available for 45 days following the race yet Baffert did not request a test of that sample. [8]

            You be the judge.

            Keep in mind that Baffert hails from California and has close ties to all those instrumental in running the CHRB – all the important people like Chuck Winner, Bo Derek, Dr. Rick Arthur for example, and other prominent influencers such as Zayat Racing Stables. Rumor has it that Zayat is under investigation for placing large bets allegedly manipulating the outcome of races in conjunction with Baffert.

            And to be fair – Here is the notes on the 77 YR OLD ART SHERMAN

            For the 77-year-old Art Sherman, who trains Kentucky Derby favorite California Chrome, his record is fairly clean according to Thoroughbred Rulings, a website sponsored by the Jockey Club.

            The database shows just eight rulings against Sherman with the most severe coming on Dec. 2, 2006 when the California Horse Racing Board served him a 10-day suspension from April 12, 2008 through April 21, 2008 and a $7,500 fine after two of his horses had Total Carbon Dioxide results higher than normal.

            He was originally given a 30-day suspension that was reduced to just 10-days after he completed a one-year probation period with no further class I, II or III violations.

            Trainer Doug O’Neill, who saddled I’ll Have Another to victory in the 2012 Kentucky Derby and Preakness Stakes, had four TCO2 violations (or alleged milkshaking incidents).

            A milkshaking violation occurs when a horse’s blood sample exceeds the regulatory threshold of 37.0 mml/l for total carbon dioxide.

            The theory behind the milkshake is that its ingredients delay lactic acid from forming in the muscles, preventing fatigue.

            In the past, a milkshake could be given to a horse through a tube into its stomach, but now there are pastes available that can be given directly to a horse.

            Sherman was also hit with a $3,000 fine on May 14, 2006 for a clenbuterol overage from the horse Fargoabargain that won the fourth race at Bay Meadows that day.

            The trainer was also fined $1,000 on January 31 of this year for the late scratch of Billy Win from the fourth race and Matzoh Ball Magic in the eighth race from Santa Anita on Jan. 31, 2014 after the two horses had inadvertently received two non-steroidal anti-inflammatory injections earlier that day and were reported to the stewards by Art’s son, Alan.

            The other five infractions were very minor.

          • horsepower

            Mr Sherman is not quite my heart throb. Never meet him in my life. But I appreciate him for who he is and what he has done. He and California Chrome are great stories for Horse Racing and I hope they Win. He has never ever been on the radar screen as far as the “TOP” Ten list for any VIOLATION LIST ? and certainly not a perennial favorite. And his horse was not part of a barnyard of 7 figure yearlings.

  • ctgreyhound

    Can you see the drama building: Arrogate or no Arrogate. Of course Arrogate will be there. A Baffert smokescreen can’t hide the fact that the match is on. Oh, the games we play……..

  • Mr J

    Gutless slander behind a keyboard. Cowardice. But I expect no less from you two

    • Tyrone Floyd

      My attorney and I would like to know are you really casting aspersions toward me and why?

      • Mr J

        You’re a gutless troll,tyrone.Making accusations with no evidence.Jealous,lowlife

        • Tyrone Floyd

          Well you should list MY accusations or confess to being overeactive MR. J. What accusation did I make about anyone? You have made a few about me. Got the screen shots, so deletions wont hide what you said.

  • Bev

    Hey, Chrome hasn’t worked in 3 days. He got to jog today on the Gulfstream track. I guess the rain is holding back on many BUT they are showing up. He should just get Arrogate there. I’m sure with NO work outs…….ALL the horses will have enough HORSE POWER to run the race ANYWAY. LOL They don’t actually need a wild crazy sprinting work out every day. Now THAT would be a great honest race actually. They don’t forget how to run. When ON the track……CC does it on his own. Knows when to pick up speed, etc. They already know. I’m SURE Arrogate is in top shape. He sure looks beefed/bulked up. He won’t slip back . I have no clue what BB thinks. Whatever……just bring him there. So he’s THERE for when they do work out. They have been working out there in Fla.

  • worldb.free

    California Chrome or Arrogate? Cal Chrome has won $14.5 million. Arrogate has won $4 million. CC has 16 wins and numerous placings in top races. Arrogate has 5 wins. California Chrome won the Kentucky Derby, Preakness, Santa Anita Derby, Dubai World Cup and holds two track records. Arrogate has a win in the restricted to 3yo Travers and a life-and-death lunge win over California Chrome by 3/100ths of a second in the BCC – long before Arrogate came down with watermelon knee in the left front. I wonder who will go down in history as the greater of the two, regardless who wins in Florida? Any thoughts?

  • Leonard

    Mr. Baffert knows what he is doing, the weather will not be an issue to catch a flight for P.W.C. He currently is in the mind game phase to add more intrest to the race, Is he coming out? Is he ducking C.C.? He can’t win due to no prep race, If it rains he can’t handle an off track. All good thoughts but no worries he will be there because he has a hugh shot of winning the 7million + winners purse. I suspect Arrogate will be the one posing in the Charmed Circle with C.C. second & passing the torch to the new King of the mountain.

  • Molly Julia

    Never Be Scared Of A Nice Horse To Run In The Slop – Arrogate Can Do It – Listen To The Horse Not The Trainer?

  • mongo98

    Arrogate owns Chrome and Baffert’s job is to train Arrogate into razor fitness.

  • Bein

    Arrogate doesn’t look like a horse that will hold up, that’s for sure. He still appears butt high which throws so much weight to his front end. I hope he grows out of that and stays sound in the process.

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