12 For $12 Million: Field Finalized For Pegasus World Cup

by | 01.16.2017 | 4:57pm
The Pegasus statue at Gulfstream Park

On Monday, Jan. 16, the final two slots for the inaugural $12 million Pegasus World Cup Invitational were filled, just 12 days before the race is scheduled to be run at Gulfstream Park. The brainchild of Frank Stronach, the Pegasus contest truly began when the race was first announced in January of last year. Details were finalized on May 11, and just days later all 12 slots had been sold for $1 million apiece to the following groups: Frank Stronach, James McIngvale, Sol Kumin and James Covello, Coolmore, Reddam Racing, California Chrome LLC, Daniel Schafer, Jerry & Ronald Frankel, Starlight Pegasus Partners, Reeves Thoroughbreds, Jeff Weiss & Rosedown Racing, and Ruis Racing.

It took a bit longer, however, for horses to fill all of those slots. The California Chrome LLC ownership group purchased one of the original spots, so the big chestnut has been pointing to the race from the start. Sol Kumin and James Covello sold their slot to Earle Mack in September. After Runhappy's retirement, owner James McIngvale went all the way to Argentina to purchase Group 1 winner Eragon for the race.

Most of the biggest movement in the starting gate, however, came following the Breeders' Cup Classic, in which California Chrome suffered a stunning defeat to relative newcomer Arrogate. Arrogate was suddenly the hottest ticket on the market for the Pegasus, because Juddmonte did not own a slot in the gate. On Dec. 22, it was announced that Coolmore had sold its spot in the gate to Juddmonte, ensuring Arrogate a berth in the big dance.

The rest of the owners began announcing their final selections over the next few weeks:

  • Shaman Ghost will run for his owner Frank Stronach
  • Keen Ice, owned by Jerry Crawford's Donegal Racing, will run in the spot of Jerry and Ronald Frankel
  • War Story, owned by Loooch Racing and Partners, will run in the spot of Dan Schafer
  • Neolithic will run for owner Starlight Racing
  • Breaking Lucky, owned by Gunpoweder Farms, will run in the spot of Reeves Thoroughbreds
  • Prayer for Relief, owned by Zayat Stables, will run in the spot of Jeff Weiss and Rosedown Racing
  • War Envoy will run for owner Ruis Racing
  • Ralis will run for owner Reddam Racing
  • Noble Bird, owned by John Oxley, will run in the spot of Earle Mack

Overall, the field for the first running of the world's richest race is expected to be made up of the following horses: California Chrome, Arrogate, Keen Ice, Neolithic, Shaman Ghost, Eragon, War Story, War Envoy, Breaking Lucky, Ralis, Noble Bird, and Prayer for Relief.

  • gus stewart

    Well they have 12 committed to race… so for those of us that thought 10 was number we were wrong. Now the others will be looking for one of the top 2 to catch a cold before race. It would be great it cc and arrogate started,, but its a million a spot so 2nd and third make u a little money on investment

    • Lost In The Fog – Robert Lee

      There was never any question about whether or not there would be 12 entrants. The only question was the quality of the field, not the quantity of the field. All 12 slots were sold for $1M each and each slot holder was going to find some horse to run rather than forfeit the $1M.

    • Whynotwest

      How do you make money running third when a slot costs $1 million and third pays $1 million? Riddle me that.

      • gus stewart

        Well i will call my facts team to tell them they are fired. But i do believe there is going to be some kind of rev sharing with every entrant.. now if you want to be part of my facts team u could find if that is accurate. That should keep u busy,, and yea im a busy guy.

        • Whynotwest

          Apparently that is true. My fault. I wasn’t aware of the revenue sharing arrangement. Nonetheless it won’t be a ton more money.

          • Nick Pavletic

            NBC broadcast rights aren’t cheap!

        • C Hogan

          Gus your right

      • Lost In The Fog – Robert Lee

        In addition to purse share each owner of a berth will receive a one-twelfth share in the net revenue that the race generates in wagering, sponsorships, and media rights.

        • Lawrence R

          Also first chance for a slot next year.

  • Whynotwest

    Take California Chrome and Arrogate out and this field is Grade 2 quality at best.

    • Lawrence R

      But you can”t take them out, can you ? So the point is moot.

  • J

    THE RACE STINKS & SO DOES THAT STUPID STATUE OF PEGASUS.
    IT LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING OUT OF A HORROR MOVIE IN THE 1960’S.
    IT MAKES ME THINK OF RAQUEL WELCH IN 1 MILLION YEARS BC.

    • Richard C

      It was found on the set used for “Lost in Space”.

    • Lawrence R

      I thought Rocky looked fabulous in that fur.

    • Joey Seay

      Lol.. Hater

    • LongTimeEconomist

      Raquel Welch still sounds pretty good to me.

  • Will Styles

    If anyone is listening that grooms the track at gulfstream. Please till the track so deep that it kills off all front speed horses. Then it might be a race. Other then that Chrome is going to destroy this field.

    • Brian Clark

      arrogate allready destroyed cc. Where were you.

      • MaiyaDay

        Less than a length when Chrome was in front at the 9f mark (distance of this race) is hardly “destroyed.”

        • Arrogate

          The 1/8th pole never moves no matter the length of the race.

          • MaiyaDay

            I mean, yes, but not sure how that’s relevant to what I said. They’ve run a different distance at the 1/8 pole depending on the distance of the race.

          • This race is 1/8 shorter and that should benefit Chrome as will the weight assignments. That does not prove he’ll win but it should make it more likely.

          • Rob B

            If CC carries 2 less lbs than Arrogate BB will cry and rightfully so. They should carry equal weight.

          • Arrogate

            What will benefit him the most is Arrogate’s rain interrupted training pattern and/or the additional rain coming that will most likely mean Arrogate misses the race:-)

      • Joey Seay

        He closed on him and beat him running away.. Chrome isn’t invincible despite what his die hard fans want to believe

        • DarthKoalaBear

          Die hard Chromie here, and I never said he was invincible. However, neither is Arrogate, despite what die hard Arrogaters say.

        • Julie L.

          Neither is Arrogate. Keep that in mind while you chastise Chrome fans.

      • Julie L.

        Half a length is not destroying. You Arrogate fans like to accuse Chrome fans of being fanatics but come on…try to be realistic. It’s a horse race and anything can happen just ask American Pharoah’s owners and trainer when Keen Ice swept by in the Travers Stakes. Keen Ice is running here that’s got to make Bob Baffert a little uneasy and praying for no repeat and before everyone jumps yeah I know he was third in the Classic but again it’s horse racing.

        • Rob B

          Keen Ice coudnt win over this surface for 50k.

      • venetian

        destroyed?? what race were you watching

      • Rob B

        By a half length when he didn’t pass CC until 50yds remaining?

    • MaiyaDay

      Can we not use the phrase “kills” while talking about these horses? I want a fair track, not biased any way.

  • Lefty_Orioles_Fan

    The brainchild of Frank Stronach
    More like the ‘Brain Cramp’
    Also, I think it would be a riot if Noble Bird comes in and steals this race.

    • Easy Goer

      Yes this will be way worse than the last few editions of the Donn….

  • kuzdal

    The field is set. Let me recall a word used by a Stronach rep, a number of weeks ago…..

    Does this race constitute something you’d describe as “compelling”?

    • Meg Hiers

      If rematch with Arrogate and Chrome actually happens, then you bet it sounds compelling to me. Not to mention, while there are certainly more than a few questionable entries, besides the top two, another 4 actually have decent US grade 1 form at 9f, and Neolithic has a chance to get there. So for a modern Grade 1 race for older males, it actually isn’t that bad a field.

      • kuzdal

        Maybe it’s that I’m old. Sunday Silence v Easy Goer in the Preakness was a race I just had to see, live. Spectacular Bid in the Belmont; same thing. Blame beating Zenyatta. This? It’s not a great betting race but…enjoy!!

        • Easy Goer

          So basically you don’t like chrome or arrogate so the race sucks

          • kuzdal

            I love both. As someone who wagers on many different chances, this seems boring, contrived.

          • Easy Goer

            So you are only interested in the betting aspect of it?

        • I am super sensitive on this subject of Zenyatta in the 2010 Breeders Cup Classic. Blame ran a shorter total distance. Zenyatta was not on her home track and Blame was. I don’t blame Blame for winning, but Zenyatta was not “beaten.” She lost by a head.

          • kuzdal

            My comment had nothing to do with “who won” ….

            It was a contest you just had to see. That, to me, is compelling.

      • Lawrence R

        They had to scrape the bottom of the barrel in order to get the 12. Then again they seem to be about the best older dirt horses in the country available on short notice. Next year expect more competition from overseas. Of course Lefty can’t see that . He’s to busy being negative.

    • Lost In The Fog – Robert Lee

      If a matchup between the two top-rated horses in the world competing for the largest purse on the planet is not compelling then please explain what would be?

      Assuming that both Arrogate and CC are healthy and that neither experiences out-of-the-ordinary traffic problems then this was always going to be a two-horse race no matter who filled the other 10 spots in the starting gate.

  • Whynotwest

    Unfortunate that Gun Runner couldn’t make the race. I thought he added a little intrigue. At least another Grade 1 winner.

    • Mr. Blues

      Yup missing the runner thought he was gonna make it

  • linda christensen

    This is not a good time of the year for this kind of race as many good horses are off to stud. But not too bad I guess though could have been better

    • Having a race like this might keep some of those “studs” on the track longer. It might, in the future, give breeders the understanding that there are horses out there that are better qualified to be a “stud” despite the names on their pedigree not being as prestigious.

  • kevin

    How many people will actually attend this event. Admission is $100, parking $20, If you want to sit and watch the races, that will cost you, $300 in the poker room, $175 for a stool at the bar, $130 at the paddock etc.. Totally ridiculous! To go and sit down at the poker room (no poker that day) and watch the races on TV will cost you $420 minimum. Why not just stay home and take the money and wheel CC in $40 exacta’s without Arrogate ($400)? ….{Arogate will be off the board}

    • why throw away $400. Arrogate dominates this field

      • Ben

        Have you ever read something about jockey weights and their influence on the outcome of a race.?

        I suppose not.!

        • Joey Seay

          Yeah… The horse weighs over a thousand pounds and trains with a rider that weighs more than any racing weight.. It may kinda matter, but not so much for the faves

        • DarthKoalaBear

          Bob Baffert could be running the worst horse in his barn in this race (or any race, in fact) and “Kaye” would say that is the horse that is going to dominate the field. Always, and without exception.

          • Moonshine

            Why is Bob Baffert so obsessed with the weather? I get it, you don’t want to risk your horse on a wet track in advance of a big money race, but he’s OBSESSED.

      • Rob B

        9f over that strip and I think CC is the favorite. Either way they’re both between 4/5-6/5 and everyone else is 8/1 or more.

      • Moonshine

        Why run the race? I don’t think Chrome can hear you guys.

      • michaelstapler

        Here is what I KNOW.
        YOU bet Baffert in every race he has a horse, without fail.
        YOU have a Negative ROI by doing so..
        Great concept, loser.

      • Rob B

        Going 9f over this surface? Not sure about that. The 9f only helps CC IMO and that surface does as well. But if you think Arrogate dominated the Classic then we just disagree on the definition of dominate.

    • Brian Duntugan

      I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a real ghost town there on Pegaus World Cup day w/ those very extremely outrageous prices.

      • Arrogate

        All good seats supposedly sold out.

        • Kim Darling

          Yes. I looked a couple of weeks ago. We live in Atlanta so instead of going down will be using our money to bet from the comfort of the living room and go to the Florida Derby instead!

      • venetian

        sold out

    • C Hogan

      I agree with everything you wrote. Everything

    • Joey Seay

      You are silly…

    • Bob Blake

      got any extra drugs for me?

    • SPA

      This should really attract those young fans away from a Miami Heat game….$420 to watch the race? They seem to have forgotten the backbone and lifeblood of the sport….the $2 bettor.

      • larry outlaw

        Just like other sports,baseball,football etc,.leaving the $2 better behind.What happened to getting more people into racing,this is not a way to do it.Greed is always the downfall of anything.

        • Molly Julia

          Larry – This Is Not A Fan Event – Rich People Only?

          • larry outlaw

            When the non rich people stop going,then they will wish they had the fans, so sad, Horse racing has been going down hill for a long time,with moves like this the bottom will get here sooner.

      • Kim Darling

        Birmingham Race Track was the poster child for that argument. It failed miserably because of trying to cater to everyone BUT the $2 bettor.

        • Molly Julia

          Kim – The Tourists & Senior Citizens Is Gulfstream Park, But Too Much Mucho Dinero For 70 & 80 & 90 Year Olds?

        • Moonshine

          I don’t get it at all. I don’t like to bet. I love horses. I love figuring out form. I am just about the ONLY person I know, even among friends who are all about the horses first, who basically has to force myself to bet on race day at least to show I was there. My own mother is disappointed in how little I bet. My point is, I’ve been to the track with a lot of people, most of whom I’ve dragged there with me. None of them know the significance of the race unless it’s a TC race, and even if it’s a TC race, the undercard is lost on them. But every single person grabs a program and buries themselves in it and then starts betting. And people who know and like racing also bet. My conclusion, most people like betting on horses given the opportunity. Their first time there or their tenth time there. Why isn’t the sport reaching these people? People like to gamble. Maybe this focus on equine stars is the wrong way about it. Focus on who got a big payday that day.

      • Larryo

        So true. I went to AP’s Belmont and paid $150 for top of the stretch seats. I was thrilled to be there for AP but no way am I ever paying that much again. For that price I got hour long lines, no access to food or drink and a rowdy bunch of millennial puking there guys out from alcohol poisoning. I’ll watch on TV and think the race is too short for Arrogate and think CC wins easily.

        • SPA

          Also, the bathrooms backed up that day as well!! You also forgot the 4 hour wait to get out of the place!!

          • Molly Julia

            Spa – What Bathrooms – Most People Use The Woods By The Tiki Huts?

        • Moonshine

          I just don’t think racing knows what it’s doing. I had a similar experience to yours at AP’s Belmont Stakes (but for less money). They seem intent on attracting a celebrity crowd, and then people who follow a celebrity event, sorting of a throwback to the 1930s. And they want corporate money. These are the attendees they want to attract with big ticket prices. That’s not going to sustain the sport. They need to attract bettors – people who like going to the casinos. Any time I’ve brought a novice to the track, they have zero interest in horses. They just dive into the program and start working out their bets. Not big bets, maybe $50.00 for the day, but if racing would appeal to that sort of person and not try to gauge people on the big headline days, I think racing would be better off. You might get people who enjoy betting on one of those big days and they’d turn up for the other days.

          • Molly Julia

            Moonshine – They Know What They Are Doing – It’s For Rich People Only?

          • longtimehorsewoman

            Have you been to the Kentucky Derby? $40 for the infield and they fill it. it’s an event. People go just to go it’s not a regular racing crowd. Look at the people who put up $1 million to run. Why do it? Because they want to be there even though for most it will be a huge loss. It’s an event – a totally different animal.

          • urisha

            but there is at least a 40 dollar option for the Derby!

          • longtimehorsewoman

            Yes, but you can see nothing of the race. Except on the big screen. I went and I will never go again unless I can afford a seat. So I most likely won’t ever be going again. Not to mention trying to get out – which took over 2 hours.

          • me too

            Is the paddock a restricted area for Derby race? Or is there a extra fee to see the horses in the paddock? I was wondering because I wanted to go but if I can’t see the horses close up…why bother.

          • Jim

            You can get by the paddock with a general admission ticket..60 bucks now….You just can’t get to the front side of the grandstand….Unless you’re shrewd ; )

          • me too

            Thank you for the good info!

          • longtimehorsewoman

            I honestly don’t know. There’s a tunnel from the infield over to the grandstand side so I suppose you can go over. I doubt you’d make it close enough to the paddock itself to actually see the horses, because of the crowd that would be there, but you might be able to find a spot along the route they take out to the track.

          • Rob B

            The derby and its undercard is a far superior product to what this pegasus day will provide. At 1/4 of the price.

          • longtimehorsewoman

            1/4 the price? I don’t think so.

          • michaelstapler

            My last Derby was just inside the 1/16 pole at $800/tic. Pegasus sounds just fine to me.

          • Rob B

            $800 is steep no doubt (im assuming you had a seat atleast with the track visible in front of you. 50% of the options mentioned at GP you can’t even see the track. Also the Derby is a worldwide event, the biggest day of the horse racing year. This race will be discontinued probably next year and in 5 years will be but a faint memory. This race should cost 10% of the KD.

          • michaelstapler

            Oh yes. Right in front of the track in the first elevated seating. Between 70yds and the 1/16th pole. Great view.
            Is it worth it? To me, yes, as I don’t go all the time. Only been to a handful of Derby’s. I sit at a table most every time I go to the track, but that pricing, although within my means, is just plain stupid for a restaurant seat on Derby Day. I love the crowds on big days.

          • Moonshine

            I’ve been at Belmont Stakes before they capped admission at 90,000 people. I’ve been there for 102,000 people and had a great time. Those other occasions also had people who wanted to have an event. The cast of the Sopranos. The cast of other NY based shows. Supermodels. Politicians. Soap stars. Groupies. Still a great day. That was not the experience at Belmont Park for AP’s TC. That was douche-tastic from start to finish, with fewer people in attendance than Belmont Stakes races of earlier years. Just a slatternly attitude on the part of the track, grabbing your money and blatantly giving you crap in return, and it also appeared understaffed, and those who were there didn’t know what was going on or how the tickets were structured.
            Although I paid only 45+ bucks (because the webpage wasn’t loading) that was still more money than the general admission, but nobody there had a clue what the difference was between my ticket and a general admission ticket (My ticket wasn’t stub hub or scalped – it was face value off the track’s own page). I didn’t stress that too much; I appreciated being able to attend, but I do think that a head usher should have a clue what the difference was.

        • Molly Julia

          Larry – How About No Security?

        • goodhorsekeeping

          I had tickets for Pharoah’s Belmont and ended up not going, which I really regret. But I did see him in the Haskell, and Monmouth absolutely killed it. They did a really wonderful job hosting a record crowd. Didn’t even have to pay too much for reserved seating.

          The prices for the Pegasus are ridiculous.

          • Moonshine

            I was at Monmouth as well. Came in from Brooklyn. The train to Monmouth wasn’t too crowded – only one other set of passengers was headed to Monmouth proper, but the trains back were packed. I agree Monmouth handled everything really well. I had no advance ticket (I don’t think) but got in no problem, and ended up with spectacular views of the race on the second floor. It was extremely packed with lots of interest from everybody holding up their phones and i-pads in the paddock when AP came out, but still somehow friendly, relaxed, and a prevailing atmosphere of hey – it’s summer! Everybody should have an opportunity to enjoy themselves, appreciate this experience, and let’s have fun. I had great views of AP from start to the end when he was led down the track and then exited yards away through an exit back to the barns.

            That was a classic experience, to coin a phrase. Packed to the rafters, but a visible staff, very helpful but also relaxed and friendly. Very glad I went.

          • michaelstapler

            Monmouth does do a nice job. Plus, they have the track so fast, you can’t help but make money on Haskell day playing the speed in each race.

      • Molly Julia

        SPA – Kids Are Also $100 – 3 & 4 Year Old Babies?

    • mjtags11

      I wish I lived closer to Gulfstream and had the ability to get down there. I don’t care how much it costs to go to the track, I go there for the love of the sport. People pay tens of thousands of dollars to see the best teams in their respective sport go at it and people complain when they have to spend a couple hundred to see not only a $12 million race but also a full day of stakes action, entertainment that is near the top in sports, and a venue that (while small) has so many amenities.

      Every year people say that they want horse racing to come up with the “next best thing” and to “move to the future” yet whenever new ideas pop up people bawk and mock it all the way. If the so-called fans of the game can’t support an innovative idea, no matter the cost, then what reasoning is there to even try any more. Maybe we should go back to just running the races, forget about simulcasting, and hope that claimers from Fort Erie can make our sport thrive (sorry to pick on Fort Erie, which is one great track itself). I’m not saying that mocking horse racing is reserved for just this sport; fans of other sports do it all of the time. But instead of complaining about how much this event costs, why not just watch. I agree that not everyone will be able to pay to go to this race, but if you can’t at least you can watch it on TV, or through simulcast, or listen to it on the radio.

      This sport is far more than just the price of admission. Hell, if I had to pay $500 every time I wanted to go to the track I would. I go to the track for the love of the sport. Seeing horses run around a track is one of the greatest joys I can get. There is no place I rather be. Think back to your first trip to the track, whether with family, friends, or just yourself. I’m sure it was one of the best moments of your life. Would you really give that up because it was too expensive.

      Now go enjoy the most innovative idea we’ve had in this sport in a long time!

      • SPA

        I disagree. I have season tickets to the Giants and they are $100 each, often can’t be resold for face value. When a sport is struggling to attract fans you don’t jack up the prices and make it more difficult to experience that sport, you make it less difficult. I feel bad for the fans who attend Gulfstream everyday and are the backbone of the plant. They are being told “get out” for this day.

        Any Saturday at Saratoga is equal to this day…admission….$5.

        As for fans of other sports mocking horse racing…I wish that were true, it would mean horse racing is actually being noticed.

        Just because an idea is new doesn’t mean the fans have to support it if said idea is gouging the public. Don’t worry, the track will report overflow attendance that day no matter how many or few show up.

        People will be watching on TV, no doubt.

        • Mr. Blues

          The people who watch it on TV will see the place is packed and not just some news report!

          • SPA

            I hope it is packed, but don’t forget this is the new Gulfstream, it holds much less. The paddock area will be packed, but it was packed this past Saturday as well from what I saw on TV. Again if the idea is to shut out the regular everyday fan, they will succeed.

          • Mr. Blues

            What is the everyday cost to go to and park at Gulf Stream?I have a friend who goes there for drinks at night and he isn’t to happy that he will not be able to go that day because of costs to get in .

          • SPA

            I don’t believe they charge. In my opinion no track should charge to get in. The casino’s don’t

          • Molly Julia

            SPA – We Are Surprised That The Bathrooms Are Free?

          • me too

            Casinos don’t have horses, some worth millions. Zoos charge & the animals there aren’t all drop dead gorgeous.

          • Mr. Blues

            Nice post me too.Some people just don’t get it.

          • SPA

            The zoo? The zoo doesn’t have gambling and anything with gambling is a direct competitor to the racetrack. The zoo is not a competitor.

          • Judy Fraizer

            Parking is free, admission is free on a normal day. It really shrank when they put in the mall. Still a nice track but no Santa Anita.

          • Molly Julia

            Judy – Parking Is Free At Target, Publix, Walmart – Long Walk In The Rain?

          • Molly Julia

            SPA – Paddock Area Has No Cover For The Rain – Safety Hazard?

          • SPA

            Not safety, but it could be uncomfortable.

          • Molly Julia

            SPA – So Many People In One Area Is Called A Safety Hazard Check With City Of Hallandale Beach For Rules & Guidelines?

          • Carla Parrillo

            Don’t the fire laws guide lines apply the same everywhere?
            Just be pleased to be witnessing the event. Selling tickets should be a help with crowd control.
            Not knowing locations very well I need to ask. Is the track near Hollywood, Florida?
            I could Make the drive Nonstop on 24hours. If it Is. What a tempting idea if I could trust my car.

          • Rob B

            Not to mention no visual of track besides the big screen monitors

          • Moonshine

            There’s no cover at Aqueduct either. I was there for the 2016 Wood and a few other muddy, rainy (and snowy) spring race days and it looked safe. If it’s raining that hard the paddock should clear out of extra people anyway.

          • Molly Julia

            Mr. Blues – NBC Sports Should Mention The Fans At The Beginning Of The Broadcast?

          • Mr. Blues

            Molly I’m sure they will. They will pan out and show the entire area full of energetic fans cheering for the day at hand .while many will be getting antsy for the main event.The Champ California Chrome!

          • Ann M. Adam

            Don’t be so sure of that Mr. Blues unless Stronach has made sure of this with NBC. They do not always show wider shots of track ares when covering a Thoroughbred race. They just do not put a lot of cameras out to cover wide shots and the over head doesn’t really make a point of the crowd. I am also quite sure they did not make NBC pay to cover the race either. ; )

        • Molly Julia

          Spa – NBC Sports Will Be Shocked About The Everyday Fans?

        • I don’t think Steelers tickets have that same problem. You just picked the wrong football team ;)

      • Mr. Blues

        Nice to see a positive spin out of all this negative posting.As I have posted before I spent 150$on this race to get in .Not needing to park I upped my general admission ticket with no seat to getting a seat and all you can eat buffet. Along with that I get to drive out of winter into a great climate change and getting to meet up with friends I haven’t seen in 35 years .Well worth it to see Chomes last race and a rematch.The only drag is a 1200 mile drive but it still beats going to work!

        • Judy Fraizer

          I hope you have a blast and make some money. Life’s an adventure, enjoy what you can!

          • Molly Julia

            Judy – You Cannot Enjoy Racing In The Rain – Remember! No Cover?

          • Carla Parrillo

            Molly, I agree with Mr Blue. This event is open to all. if you are younger than I am and you want to experience something like this go for it.
            Don’t wait to live up to your bucket list. You would be surprised how full that bucket will get. Money I don’t have but dedetermination I do.
            I will have to be happy watching the race at Twin Rivers in Rhode Island, but I now to myself and to Chrome that I will visit him at the ranch as soon as I know They start sceduling then. We should all have a synconized drink and,tip our glasses at the same time and drink a Toast to California Chrome. Mr Blue, you will be there use chat or email and puck the time. Okay Molly. we can still enjoy the the day.

        • Molly Julia

          Mr. Blues – No Positive Spin When Only For Rich People?

        • md reynolds

          Mr. Blues, I’m driving from NC. Just had to see the 2 best horses in the world. Im pulling for Chrome. He gave us such an amazing 2016!

          • Mr. Blues

            Thats awesome. I’m rooting for Chrome as well. Bin following him since working for derby points.I’ll be coming from Nj…Staying with friends in Miami. Going to be great to get down in that nice weather. Always wanted to drive out of winter.Its going to be a great race and a good time!!!

          • md reynolds

            Have a great time & Go CHROME Go!!!!!

        • topkat

          Agreed I will fly into Savannah from NYC visit my son and then roll on down Hollywood beach Crowne Plaza, check out the track and poker room at GP on Friday and be front and center on Saturday and hopefully CC brings it home in a final showdown with Arrogate, fly home Monday I bought seats as soon as they became available, no stranger to paying up for the big races Travers, Whitney, Belmont always on my summer schedule,I think it will be great, not to mention escaping the rain and cold here in the northeast! Good luck my friend!

          • Mr. Blues

            Good luck to you as well my friend ,safe trip.Oh And Go Chrome!!!!!!🐎

        • the prime minister

          Make some money Blues and have a great time..

          • Mr. Blues

            Thanks Prime Minister ,very kind of you.I know for sure I’ll have a great time and I’ve bin on a good lucky streak. Can’t wait to see the Champ. Chrome
            Is such a beautiful horse .

        • Carla Parrillo

          Have a wonderful time. I hope the have open seating at Twin Rivers in R I.. I better plan on going early.

      • Moonshine

        I think the problem happens when you screw people over who support your industry day after day. I know a lawyer whose pastime is Belmont. He has season tickets every year. He’ll go up to Saratoga. He has dropped thousands betting on NYRA tracks. And any time there’s an ‘event’ like a TC on the line, he has to struggle with the track to even get seats.

        • Molly Julia

          Moonshine – Everyday Fans Cannot Go To This Event – Rich People Only?

          • Moonshine

            You can’t screw over your regulars. It’s telling them you don’t appreciate their business. It’s blatantly short-sighted. I think for a race like this there should be a low-cost GA as there is at other tracks. Otherwise it’s – as soon as we think we don’t need the regular guy, we ignore him.

      • Molly Julia

        mjtags11 – No Excuse – Remember! You Have The Money, But Scared To Come?

      • Al McBean

        This dumb squat race is neither innovative or helpful to the popularity of the sport. How about innovate a way to get rid of the rampant use of drugs in horse racing , the game will never be taking seriously on a national level as long as horses are allowed to be drugged by crooked trainers. How about innovate a way to keep horses in training for there 4 5 even 6yr old season so that rivalries develop that the average fan can follow. Getting a few rich guys to put up a million dollars is not innovative and will not survive much longer once they realize it is a risk not worth taking.

      • Molly Julia

        mjtags – If 2018 Pegasus World Cup Was At Santa Anita Park Would You Go?

        • mjtags11

          I’d go whether it was at GP or SA, but unable. I go to college in PA and don’t have the ability to get to either in a timely manner. Sadly any flights out of Central PA take three hours longer than any other flight to FL, and Cali… that’s not even a flight plan I want to look at (have planned people’s flights to and from Cali tooo many times this year).

        • me too

          yes, because it is close but only if there were favs that I hadn’t seen before that would justify the high admission price.

          • Bobbie G.

            You would only go “if there were favs that you hadn’t seen before”? Is that what racing means to you? Not the experience of being a few feet away from the most gorgeous animals in the world who have huge hearts and give their all for racing? To support racing in any way you can? Wow.

          • me too

            WOW you’re quick to whine. Can’t you read?–I said due to the cost of $100+. I go every week & look every horse in the eye (claimer – stakes), Missy Negative. Why do you think people are willing to spend $1,000’s to go to championship games is to see winners? People like winners not losers, like yourself who make stupid troll comments.

          • Bobbie G.

            ha-ha-ha. Your “intelligence” shows. “Missy negative”, “stupid troll remarks”. “loser”.. Keep going every week and look “every” horse in the eye. Who cares. Hope your “favs” appreciate the look!! ha-ha-ha.

          • me too

            YOU OBVIOUSLY CARE–you sure are upset over a response. Your fav troll phrase is ha-ha-ha.

          • Jim

            Yawn..I’ll turn it on around post time and watch it that way….I’ve got horses out back that interest me more.. and they’re not drugged up

        • Mr. Blues

          If time allows

      • Kevin Callinan

        This is the first non-traditional annual American race(aside from the Breeder’s Cup) that has created some buzz in a hundred years- yet many want to pay for it like it’s a Wednesday at River Downs. We had months to save for our ticket- no different than a World Series or Super Bowl. Your post is perfect- this is for the hardcore fan who happens to bet not necessarily the chronic gambler that bets anything he can.

        • Moonshine

          There should be a low-cost GA option. The high ticket seats and accomodations would still sell out. This is plain old short sighted. If the race repeats next year without a marquee rubber match, then what? The track will be scrambling.

          • Mr. Blues

            They can adjust how ever they think best

          • Kevin Callinan

            nothing about this event has been short sighted- your GA option is a seat in your living room like most high end sporting events.

          • Moonshine

            Not true. Thousands attend Belmont and Monmouth for the price of a GA admission, standing in the apron, commandeering a bench or picnic table, while the track loses nothing selling out for good money the reserved seating and other reserved amenities and accommodations. I don’t think a track should gouge the public for admission if there’s no seat and all the admission entitles them to is to watch the simulcast, stay on the grandstand side, use the restrooms and spend at the windows. Plenty of people are happy to attend at a nominal fee which gets them standing room, and the track if it is run with any kind of sense makes plenty of money on reserved seating, amenities, not to mention the action at the windows.

          • Moonshine

            Meantime at Belmont I was one of only a scattering of people who showed up for the 2016 Jockey Gold Cup. Belmont had sunk a lot of money promoting the day, in October, which sounded terrific. A family day, a breast cancer research fundraiser, lots of entertainment, contests, and refreshment options, children encouraged to attend. The day turned up blustery, rainy, raw and cold, and all that promotion was for nothing, I’m sorry to say. I think both things can be satisfied. Giving the regular an opportunity to at least be on the premises at “normal” cost (they will surely bet more at the windows than they paid in GA – isn’t that why they’re there?) and then look out for themselves, and marketing the revenue producing seats and other amenities to capitalize on a high profile stakes.

        • Mr. Blues

          Spot on Fevin ….Go Chrome !

        • Ann M. Adam

          I am almost 81 and went to some of special races that had created a prior buzz at Santa Anita in the 50s. The costs of attending never changed!

        • Moonshine

          It has only created buzz because of two horses.

      • Carla Parrillo

        I would too. I even considered flying in just for the race and flying home when it was over.
        However, i have very little experience in traveling unless I drive. I can see me lost in some airport now!
        Maybe its time I brake “MY MAIDEN”! and start trying to travel alone.
        My bucket list does include the ability to all these react tracks starting with the Kentucky Derby, and follow the program right to the Triple Crown.

    • Easy Goer

      Supply and demand it is the same for every event everywhere (at least in North america) I can’t afford to fly down there should I whine at the airlines because I am disappointed I can’t go?

      • Moonshine

        Do the airlines depend on betting for most of its income? Is there a section where passengers bet on arrival times, departure times, passengers who miss boarding? Are there exotics featuring who gets an upgrade? If a baby cries?

        If they did, airline fares might be structured differently. They might be structured to support the bettor, not the one who can pay the highest fare.

        • Easy Goer

          Are you suggesting that the people who can/will pay a higher fare are more likely to spend less gambling??

          • Moonshine

            I am suggesting it would be nice to make people welcome who haven’t spent big bucks on admission but will drop the equivalent at the windows in exchange for seeing the event in person.

    • Molly Julia

      Kevin – You Can Find A Seat If You Don’t Get Wet?

    • Molly Julia

      Kevin – PJ Campo Said The Fans, Who Continue To Offer Great Suggestions To Help Us Grow Our Customer Service, But Management Does Not Listen?

    • Dean

      Dean
      Did yo really think you were going to an event like this for free. You apparently are not an NFL fan , NASCAR, fan or any other professional sport fan because you can get in the door for less than $100. In college sports you have to pay for the privilege to buy season tickets. Lighten up. This is a great event. Your choice is to sit at home or go watch the best two thoroughbreds in the world race. Life is about experiences.

      • SPA

        Pretty tough to compare horse racing to the NFL. Which horse racing event is comparable to the Super Bowl? The Pegasus, the Kentucky Derby, The Preakness, the Belmont, the Breeders Cup????? NFL has it’s one big day, thankfully horse racing has more.

        Life is about experiences, I just wish the average horse racing fan could experience them.

        • Dean

          The Kentucky Derby has an attendance of 165,000 people. I would think that is on par with any sporting event. Look, we are on the same team. The people that bet on the races along with owners support this sport. But because we are owners and are able to be in the game does not make us bad people. It is frustrating to provide jobs for as many people in the industry as owners do and then be chastised because we are putting on the race on century and will charge $100 for a ticket. If you got a call on a winner in the 5th race you would bet $100 on the horse before you hung up the phone.
          The Stronach Group and slot owners are trying to improve the game. If they wanted a rich man’s party there would be better ways to do it.

          • Rob B

            How is it the race of the century when its no better than the classic that was 2 months ago?

          • Erin Casseday

            Actually, not even as good as the Classic as far as depth of the field is concerned.

          • Moonshine

            It’s not the race of the century, it’s the Chrome and Arrogate rematch. What is this race going to be next year?

            And do you not care about bettors? The windows are more important than admission tickets.

      • Molly Julia

        Dean – The Florida Derby Is Free For Senior Citizens, Kids, Tourists & Snowbirds Which Make Gulfstream Park Survive Everyday?

      • Moonshine

        Are there windows at NASCAR and the NFL? That should be the track’s focus. Getting people at the windows. Not the damn price of admission.

    • Will Styles

      I have free box tickets and I’m not even going. I gave them away. Going skiing with my son. Silly to gouge the fans like this, seeing how the owners put up the 12 million in purse money. However I will watch the race. I’m betting Breaking Lucky with Chrome in a key. He’s training great and I think he runs 1st 2nd or 3rd.

    • Molly Julia

      Kevin – Imagine If Frank Tore Down Santa Anita Park Like He Did Gulfstream Park – Real Nightmare?

    • worldb.free

      Shocking but they are SOLD OUT.

    • John Dee

      Really, Arrogate will be off the board? Oh and his name is spelled with two r’s.

    • FrazySlew

      Arrogate will beat Chrome again but can’t argue with anything else you said.

    • worldb.free

      sold out (just not general admission)

  • LuLu

    You guys are idiots

  • Danzanta

    Just sit in the kitchen and watch it for free😜

  • CloudGirl211

    Prayer for relief will need a prayer to win. I can’t believe he is being thrown to the wolves. But then again it IS Zayat $$$ and fame is more important to him than the horse

    • Easy Goer

      I am not saying you are wrong but if you had a horse wouldn’t you run him?

      • CloudGirl211

        No if my horse had no chance, wasn’t competitive and was in over his head I would do right by the horse and pass personally

        • What is meant by being competitive? As long as a horse tries and is not running too far for its optimum result (like Frosted was in the Classic) no one should be upset if they don’t win or even place in the top four. I do not believe it hurts most horses psychologically if they don’t win. I would be interested in anecdotes about this from those with experience.

        • Moonshine

          If your horse had a chance for spots 3-5 you might. Pretend your competition isn’t Chrome and Arrogate, but Noble Bird, Prayer for Relief, Breaking Lucky, etc. The race might look like a reasonable deal for your entry in that case, and in fact, I think that’s how many of the presumed runners up are looking at it.

    • Moonshine

      I felt angry at first, but Prayer for Relief doesn’t need to win to make his entry a valid one. John Oxley (Noble Bird’s owner) said a finish in the top five makes economic sense. Unless one of the non-Arrogate, non-Chrome entries races over his head, or immediately sets up to be a solid third, I think there will be two races within one. The race between Arrogate and Chrome, and the race among the rest for spots 3-5. The horses in the second race don’t need to kill themselves trying to take on Chrome and Arrogate. Those two can be left to their own devices while the rest sort themselves out for the viable financial returns placements. It really doesn’t matter how far behind spots one and two spots 3-5 run – the financial payoff is the same. So that second race can be reasonable according to the abilities of the assorted runners up.

  • Tony

    Does Chrome LLC need the money that bad, there is no way he loses to Arrogate again

    • Easy Goer

      Earnings are the whole point of horse racing???? Biggest purses for the biggest races I am not sure your point the whole industry is based around making money

    • You must be clairvoyant because that’s the only way to know what will happen in the future. That’s why they run the race and don’t just present the trophy.

  • Jim Tully

    When Cigar was trying to beat Citation’s record, Arlington International came up with “The Citation Challenge,” a $1,000,000 purse to get the fans out to Arlington and promote the sport. It worked for a day. But look at Arlington now. Other than Million weekend, their daily product has fallen to new depths, cheap claimers. I live a half hour away and used to go every Friday. Haven’t been there in years. These gimmicks don’t work.

    • SPA

      Arlington charges coolers $5 for admission….coolers!!! Regular people pay $8, then a fee for a table.

    • Nick Pavletic

      Jim: Contact your State rep and Senator. Tell them to join the 21st Century and get slots at AP and Hawthorne! Indiana and Iowa purses are larger than in Illinois; therefore only IL breds and cheap claimer stay here to run. Why run here for less money? Enjoyment of the scenery?

    • Moonshine

      Yes, this type of one day money grab backfires.

    • No track can have a Breeders Cup day lineup for each race. Horses have to start somewhere and those that are not world beaters still have to compete for a paycheck. There is no reason to blame a special race, like “The Citation Challenge” for that. You should just be happy you got to see Cigar, as I was the two times he won The Massachusetts Handicap. Besides, ordinary racehorses are still amazing and beautiful and many give their all.

  • Easy Goer

    These people paid a million a piece to get in the starting gate I cant believe the whining about prices. did you think they were going to let everyone in for free? Get a grip

    • SPA

      No, but I didn’t think they would rip people off either. Nobody told them to pay the million besides, the winner gets the majority of the purse. Why should their risk be offset by the public at all?

      • Easy Goer

        Because it a business. Every major event is a rip off by that standard. If you go to the superbowl you pay more if you go to a big name concert you pay more. Why shouldn’t they try to lessen their risk just to keep money in your pocket? No one is making you pay the admission cost, but just like the slot owners you have to pay if you want to attend. It’s simple supply and demand the price of a seat is what people are willing to pay. Sure it sucks we can’t go but would you rather attend the Yawn handicap…. error Donn…. or would you like to watch this race and the day of races that come with it?

        • SPA

          I don’t mind paying, but look at it this way. Normal admission is free, but for arguments sake let’s say it’s a dollar. At the very basic $100 price that’s 100 times a normal admission. The cheapest face value Super Bowl ticket last year was $850 or 8.5 times normal admission. There’s a little disconnect here.

          Their offset of risk is the purse/TV rights, not the back of the everyday fan and $2 bettor.

          • Easy Goer

            No their off set is also sponsorship and attendance. On a daily basis it is in their best interest to put bodies in the seats if there was a long lineup every day you bet they would be charging for attendance. On a daily basis you don’t get a 7 million dollar race (12 million is just a hype number) there is no betting in football so of course their regular fee is going to be higher.

          • SPA

            Sponsorship yes, attendance no. Not any other day at Gulfstream either.

            No betting in football??? The reason it’s so popular is the betting but the NFL won’t admit that.

          • Easy Goer

            The teams/league isn’t making money off attendees. They can recoup their investment anyway they choose events like this don’t happen for free and if they did make it free it would be oversold people would need tickets and then there would be an after market where people would still be paying for those tickets but the track (and slot owners) would not be seeing those dollars.

          • SPA

            The slot owners are racing for each others money are they not? If they are not making money off attendees then why are they jacking up the admission price?

          • Easy Goer

            Hmm they may not get attendance money.

            . All entrants will not only be competing for the world’s largest purse but they will also share equally in 100% of the net income from handle, media rights, and sponsorships from the Pegasus World Cup.

            That being said should gulfstream park not receive something out of the deal? They will be paying employees and “leasing” the use of their facilities. They can make their money through attendance, merchandise, and “concession” sales.

            Like I replied to someone else there would still be an after market for tickets why shouldn’t the track get that money as opposed to whoever gets their hands on tickets first

          • SPA

            If you can’t make money selling a bottle of water for $5 that cost you 20 cents then something is wrong. Ditto a $7 beer that costs 40 cents (tap of course).

            So now that the horse owners are not getting a share in the admission you’re saying this is just a pure money grab/gouge job by Gulfstream.

            They pay employees every race day, they “lease” their facility every race day. So now we’re right back to where the money will be made off the backs of the fans.

            I remember the first year the Hambletonion was held at the Meadowlands (the “biggest” harness race) The Meadowlands jacked up the usual admission from $2 to $20 (1981). At a time when 15,000 – 20,000 fans a race card was commonplace at the Meadowlands they drew 23,000 as many fans stayed home because they didn’t want to be gouged. In fact the Newark Star Ledger used the word gouge!! The next year admission prices returned to normal.

          • Easy Goer

            That makes no sense. The track loses its main source of income and you play it off as nothing? Why should gulfstream take the hit on a day of wages on a day where they will have maximum employees, extra security, etc etc. The way it was originally proposed was the entire days profit was split equally between stakeholders. It is either leasing the park or a split of all profits. It is silly to think everything will be the same as a random Thursday. Do you expect the jockeys to show up at your house for a meet and greet afterwards free of charge. The place is sold out because people deem the price to be worthy of the event stop whining because they like your money as much as you do

          • SPA

            It’s one race and the fans certainly didn’t ask them to make that deal for the handle.

            Why should the fans take the hit? When did I ask the jockeys to show up at my house? The race is on a Saturday, why not the same as random Saturday?

            You keep repeating the lie that the place is sold out, it’s not. Your points in your latest post are way off base, especially the jockey point? Do you think they are working for free?

          • Easy Goer

            Do you think they were going to put a million dollars without incentive? the jockey thing was about you expecting things for free or for cheap

            I don’t know if it’s sold out or not but I keep seeing the “lie” so yes I thought it was true…. I definitely think it will be sold out.

          • SPA

            Your jockey point makes no sense. I expect to pay a reasonable price, never said cheap or free. You have not answered or countered to any of my points, especially the concessions.

            You don’t know if it’s sold out? Then why do you keep saying it is sold out? It’s been proven it’s not.

            I don’t know what was originally discussed with the slot owners, neither do you or most any of us. The original premise was put up your money and the fastest horse takes it, like the old days. To me that model won’t work now…..BUT, they are running for a $12 million purse.

          • SPA

            Why should anyone take a hit, including the track? If anybody does or it’s not profitable the party taking the hit will back out or the track ownership won’t have it again.

          • Easy Goer

            The track is giving up most of its ways to make revenue so it would be taking a hit. It is not going to take a hit because it is going to charge exorbitant prices and people will pay them. Some people will complain about it on social media but I am just happy that we have this race instead of the Donn which makes a grade 1 winners every year even though it should have been grade 2 at best

          • SPA

            It’s definitely the big 2 vs. the little 10. The track is elated that CC and Arrogate are there, but certainly thought the rest of the field would be better

          • Easy Goer

            Yes and I am pretty sure the hope was for a more international race as well. This is trial run and hardly can be called a failure at this point in fact what is there to say about this that is negative?

    • Moonshine

      That misrepresents the situation.

      • Easy Goer

        I think it would be more accurate to your point to say I am oversimplifying rather than a misrepresenting, but I wasn’t exactly trying to give an in depth analysis. I do admit my ignorance to the finer details though

  • Molly Julia

    2017 Pegasus World Cup – Biggest Horse Race In The World – At The Smallest Race Track In The World – No Seats – No Parking – No Food – No Restrooms – No Kidding?

    • Easy Goer

      Richest wouldn’t call it the biggest

  • daryl steen

    Honestly , Gulfstream Park is not able to handle a big crowd these days so charging more and keeping the population down will make it more enjoyable for those who do attend. I initially thought the price was too high but if you’ve been to any sporting event lately spending $100 is not that much. To see CC’s final race and a rematch against Arrogate is actually a bargain. I bet it will be a day you remember decades from now.

    • Mr. Blues

      Got that right,…GO CHROME!!!

  • Carla Parrillo

    I am planning to go hand view the race at Twin Rivers Casino in Rhode Island. I plan to check things out this week in the hopes of viewing the Awards and Horse of the year. I hope they will be tuned. Show it on their circuits.

  • Carla Parrillo

    I’m not too worried about my picks. Win or lose we will see some of the best horses ever l. The horses that don’t win have this race on their (portfolio) and now have a chance to enhance their careers.

  • Carla Parrillo

    Of course, California Chrone and Arrogate have their futures mapped out.
    California Chrome will always be our Champion, I still remain confident that in time he will be back.
    Arrogate will continue to build his career. We for sure, will see many outstanding appearances from him.
    Now this big boy will and can be the next top horse of champions.

  • Curt Muth

    You can all stop whining about the price for admission since it’s SOLD OUT.

    • SPA

      If someone showed up on Saturday with a $100 bill in their fist they’d sell him an admission. It’s not whining Curt, it’s lamenting that it has to be done this way. As pointed out earlier this is not a long term recipe for success and growth. Alienating your base never is in any business.

    • daryl steen

      Its not sold out. Go to the Gulfstream website. Plenty of general admission tickets available

  • SPA

    A quick check of the secondary market shows about 40-60 tickets available, a simulcast ticket as low as $98, most for slightly higher than face, but it’s still over a week out. The walking ring is a separate ticket apparently so getting does not guarantee you see the horses.

    • daryl steen

      GULFSTREAMPARK.COM

      • SPA

        Yes indeed, plenty available there. I thought it would be interesting to check the secondary markets as well.

  • Tony

    A rich man’s sport obviously. The average person down there is shutout from seeing some really great thoroughbreds in person…that’s just not right! This world definitely caters to the rich! I’ll be watching on TV!

  • Al Milano

    It would be more exciting and pertinent if this was a match race between Chrome and Arrogate…all that the rest of this field can do is obscure the outcome, which I hope they won’t do.

    Ralis? Really?

    • Match races are typically won by whichever horse gets the jump on the other. That would give Chrome the advantage as he is a quicker starter. I don’t know if any of the other ten starters are speedy but, if not, the race may be run like a match race anyway. The stakes would only be $2 million and not twelve if they don’t let the others enter.

    • Victoria Doyle

      Match races aren’t fairly run races usually. At least with 10 others in the field, it could set up differently, the pace is usually more fair.

  • People are complaining about the prices. I guess they believe The Sport of Kings is football. Well maybe that’s true. The Super Bowl tickets are $6,000 and up. The owners in the race have put down $1,000,000 so they may not treat it quite the same as $50 K allowance race.

  • Tdtommytote111

    The only thing that puzzles me is, why was it so hard to get a good horse to run and be competitive for those that owned a spot? I must of called thirty owners and asked if they would be interested in running, and got three maybe’s out of thirty calls. I believe if you had a animal good enough to run in the Pegasus and turned down the offer that maybe this isn’t your sport, because if a $12,000,000 purse doesn’t get your blood flowing, you might need to see a Doctor.

  • Watcher

    FYI To those who don’t live in So FL – Gulfstream has no grandstand or clubhouse. The 17,000 seats that used to be there are gone and now only a few hundred outside seats remain for racing. It’s all about the casino. Good luck finding a seat.

  • Molly Julia

    Mr Blues – If Gulfstream Park Let’s You Go Outside – Nobody Knows Until Raceday?

    • Mr. Blues

      I have already talked to some of the higher ups there and was advised that there will be no problem doing so ! Good luck to you Molly

    • Rob R

      if they “let you go outside” are you serious? Every one will get a arm band to wear. You are free to walk around wherever you want. Some snowflakes will complain at anything.

  • worldb.free

    Virtually a match race – with 10 pieces of traffic trying to mess with California Chrome’s pace or block the onslaught of Arrogate. I think if CC draws the inside he will float out hard on the first turn and take all the other speeds out of the in the first 12 seconds. If CC draws outside, he will be in world of trouble as the other riders will aim to take him out on the clubhouse turn. If all the runners put in their best effort, the top two should run 1-2, trip permitting. I hope these horses will be put into DETENTION BARN, with 24/7 cameras and tape, and be subjected to pre and post-race testing.

    • Moonshine

      I suspect Smith will send Arrogate, attempting to turn the tables on Chrome, and all of the “He needs a target” from Bob Baffert is just setting Victor up.

      • worldb.free

        Could go that way. CC races better when stalking. Remember he was four deep in Dubai for a mile before sweeping up and drawing off. I think Arrogate’s best chance would be getting brave on the front end. But he proved he could stalk and grind in the BC Classic. That’s why it looks like they will finish one-two. They are not only the best two, but the most versatile, meaning neither “has” to have the lead.

  • Fort Erie Fan

    Would love to be there to see the repeat of the Classic which was so exciting. Total cost to be there is just too much at $100 with no seat, plus air fare and hotel costs. I think I will see, on TV this time, Chromie and Arrogate battle it out again.. I’m hoping that Keen Ice or Shaman Ghost will come home for the triactor, I have seen both run at my beautiful home track. GO ARROGATE and go Canada.

  • SPA

    Funny how so few in the racing media even mention this.

  • Carla Parrillo

    Hi Kevin, i, realize to attend the race at the actual race Trac it will costcost to be AN actual part of the event.
    I plan to got Twin Rivers Casino to watch the Pegasus race there. Now I’m wondering if they will charge for seats?.

  • Carla Parrillo

    Chrome can do this, I lo’ve that horse. I be One so emotional when i watch him.
    …I admit he is well matched against Arrogate. Imagine the excitement. If the race ends In ‘ a DEAD HEAT. one more episode in the history books fo horse racing. I’m 2016.

  • Carla Parrillo

    BEST WISHES. AND GOOD LUCK TO ALL PARTICIOATING IN WAGERING,THIS RACE BIG OR SMALL. Relish in the experience and take pride in witnessing a great event.
    My heart and soul goes to Chromr, i,will shed emotional tears once more, that is the affect he has on me when I see him. This horse will be recorded in the history book of hiorse racing for all he Has contributed to us..
    JUSD – VT IMAGINEBL IF HE AND ARROGATE END UP IN A DEAD HEAT!!’

  • Carla Parrillo

    I am happy for any of you to be able to see the race at the Trac. That would be a dream come true.
    So, good luck, have fun and too one for me as I will do the same for you. I will be viewing the race at the casino here in Rhode Island. I will be thinking of all of you.

  • Carla Parrillo

    I just saw the posts positions drawn on TVG Arrogate drew number 1 at the rail. California Chrome drew Number 12.
    I don’t understand high tech wagerin but morning line Chrome is 6/5 and Arrogate I missed that one. We all love Chrome, or Arrogate but any oppinions out there of who could be the upset horse? My eyes are on Keenice or War Story..
    What do some of you think?

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