Finley: 20,000-1 against I’ll Have Another winning the Triple Crown

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Since 1978, 11 horses have gone to the Belmont with a chance to sweep the Triple Crown and all 11 have failed. I’ll Have Another will be the 12th runner attempting to become the 12th Triple Crown winner. Bill Finley writes at ESPN.com that, while I’ll Have Another’s work on the track this year says he should be a 6-5 favorite, the recent history of the Belmont says he has no chance.

As for why potential Triple Crown winners have all failed in the Belmont, Finley writes “Theories abound, but I believe it has everything to do with how the modern horse is handled. Three races in five weeks was no big deal for the horses of the ’30s through the ’70s, but these horses just can’t handle it.”

Horses from the 1930s to the 1970s ran more often and were trained harder to stand up to their demanding schedule. For example, when Affirmed won the Belmont, it was his 17th career start and his eighth race as a 3 year old. I’ll Have Another will be making just his eighth career start when he contests the Belmont. Other factors making it more difficult for modern horses to win the Triple Crown could include Lasix use and breeding. Bad luck, like Spectacular Bid’s safety pin and War Emblem’s stumble, has also played a role.

Finley writes: “This can’t be dismissed as a freaky coincidence. The horses that win the Kentucky Derby and the Preakness are absolutely up against it in the Belmont Stakes. Sure, I’ll Have Another can win. I hope he does. But the smart money will look elsewhere June 9 at Belmont Park, maybe to Union Rags or Dullahan. The odds, 20,000 of them, are against an I’ll Have Another victory.”

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  • James D. Jimenez

    If you’re game I’ll take $1,000.00 of that action!!!!!!

  • Equinepaparazzi

    Since the modern horse is so fragile then it is not preposterous that a lightly raced horse would be the most likely to win the Triple Crown. Mr Finley needs to turn this upside down. This is EXACTLY the kind of horse that would win the Triple Crown. I say the horse is 5-1 to win the Triple Crown….

  • Robertslack

    I’ll Have Another will probably go off at marginally less than 2 to 1 odds, and coming from someone who used to be a ‘Bookie’ in England, that would appear to be a fair representation of his chances of winning. The fact that 11 other dual classic winners have failed before him, does not affect his chances whatsoever. The fact that he has relaxed well in his two past races, and then used maximum exertion for the last two furlongs would lead us to believe that he will have enough energy left to have an outstanding chance to be a ‘Triple Crown’ winner. Good luck to all the connections who saw enough in this ‘working mans’ horse to give him a shot!

  • Herb Leliwa

    In next week’s column, Finley employs Zeno’s dichotomy paradox, and argues that none of the horses will finish.

  • Double Jay

    I think I’ll Have Another has a much better chance than horses in recent years just because O’Neill’s training methods are a throw back to the old days when horses were conditioned for stamina.
     Make no mistake about it, this race was won over the past weeks of early morning workouts…-How many that competed in the 2012 editions of the Kentucky Derby and Preakness Stakes ever recorded a work of 7F? One – I’ll Have Another (and he did it twice).-How many clocked an 8F effort? One – I’ll Have Another.-How many completed roughly 10 miles of 2 minute licks (or slightly faster) over the past 3 weeks? By now you know the answer to that. Once upon a time this blogger wrote about how a true Triple Crown prospect needed to gallop at a 2min lick, or slightly faster, every day in order to build maximum stamina:Of course like many horses working on the Derby trail over the past few months he also galloped out strong quarter miles past the wire, so I’ll Have Another actually worked 9F+ 3 times over the past 90 days, 3 times more than anyone else in either field.” This is from Bill Pressey and his ThoroEdge Equine Performance site.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nick-Arden/1054071262 Nick Arden

    So is Finley making book on his 20,000-1 odds?

    30 horses have gone to the Belmont trying to win the Triple Crown and 11 of them have succeeded – a success rate of better than 36%.

  • stillriledup

    I love Finley and his columns, but i have to disagree with him here. Real Quiet was a whisker away from pulling this off and he’s hardly an all time great horse. If RQ can almost do it, IHA certainly CAN do it.

    As far as the modern horse not being able to handle the ‘grind’, that also goes for IHA’s competition. Besides Dullihan and Union Rags being ‘freshened’, who else do you have? If either one of those colts doesnt fire a HUGE shot, who’s really in the race that can even stay with IHA?

  • Robb

    The last few times a Triple Crown was on the line, that horse– be it Smarty Jones, Silver Charm, Real Quiet, etc.– made their move too quickly.  I’ll Have Another has the absolute perfect stalking style to win this race with daylight.  Gutierrez and O’Neill shouldn’t change the game plan: get a nice spot on or close to the rail, about fourth or fifth, save ground for the first seven furlongs of the race.  Then, when they hit that wide far turn, inch up just a little closer, get into third about three wide and hit throttle at the quarter pole.  Sounds so easy, but I’ll Have Another has done this twice before in the two biggest races of his life up to this point.

    Stick to the plan, Doug and Mario.  Don’t fix what isn’t broken.  

  • Don Reed

    I value Bill’s opinion, dating back to when he was practically the only racing journalist writing great in-depth articles (in the NY Daily News).  But to put “Union Rags” and “smart money” in the same sentence is – well, I can’t see it.

    Bill Parcells used to ruthlessly end these debates with “You are what your record says you are.”  UR’s last two outings have been so drastically pitiful, sadly, he IS exactly what his record says he is – a nice horse who is a magnet for troubled trips.

    I’ll back him in the Belmont Stakes if he goes off around 10-1 or higher, just in case he somehow finds it in himself to be able to race competently, but I can’t imagine “smart money” being attracted to him.

  • DavidB

    Exactly. He is comparing the odds of many races to the odds of one race. Lets say you have a 50:50 chance of landing on “heads” when you flip a coin. However, its 50%X50%x50%, or 12.5% to land on “heads” all three times. In other words, it may be long odds compared to all the other races, but we’re still looking at a singularity – the Belmont in a few weeks. The success or failure in the past does not affect the 0resent.

  • Jimculpepper

    The business about the nasal strip does worry me, I hope it is mostly window dressing.

  • Me

    As always this guy shows his lack of true knowledge of the game. This crop has turned out to be mediocre. IHA is a good horse that has just as good a chance as any. There are two reasons that we haven’t had a Crown for 30 some years. And the two are intertwined. Breeding, rather in-breeding, and the quick timing turnaround.

    One of two things need to happen

    1 horses need to be bred with longevity in mind. Breeders need to out cross nicks for the largest gene pool available. This would deprive the hookers from a vast selection of precocious yearlings but in time the market would adjust.

    2 assuming the breeding patterns continue. The races need to be spaced out to be run on the first Saturday of each month. This would give these young horses time to recover even with their brittle pedigrees. The Belmont would love this as there would be more Crown possibilities and would fall around the 4th of July holiday weekend each year. Don’t give me “tradition” argument as the Belmont switched to a three week gap with no recourse.

  • Satch

    20,000 – 1 might be the odds before the Derby and the Preakness are run, but they aren’t the odds when it comes down to one race, the Belmont.  Goofy to even write that.

    My theory is that winners of the first two Triple Crown races were too influenced by Secretariat and stalkers suddenly find themselves as pacesetters wayyyy too early in the race.

  • Lshively

    I am also concened about the nasal strip–perhaps someone can enlighten me as to if they really make that big a difference during a race

  • David

    Can’t believe Finley is spot on.  First is to have an eye for a fast horse.  In prioritized order objectives then become 1) go 1st or 2nd in graded 2-year-old stakes (ideally in BC juvenile), 2) target 2 spots after Feb 15th, 3) avoid injury 4) write a check for 50k.  With goal of running in the Kentucky Derby met, anything else pure gravy.  If lighting strikes, Preakness is automatic; short of that, ecstasy memorialized and pictures go on the wall.  The game IS the DERBY; Preakness is ancillary and the TC is no longer thought to be achievable.  REAL QUIET was barely run down, if only Elliott hadn’t moved too quickly on SMARTY JONES and if BIG BROWN hadn’t come up lame and, and, and . . . Finley’s right, it’s a pipe dream to think today’s US 3-year-old t’breds can win at classic distances in a 5-week span.  IHA will be favored but won’t get there either. 

  • Ray Manley

    I think getting 2 to 1 would be stealing.  I think the bettors will go overboard on IHA and he will be no higher than 3/5.

  • roger

    So why did Visa or Master Card DROP the Triple Crown Bonus several years ago……seems like a win-win promotion.

  • Ida Lee

    Well, my husband won a lottery at 7 million to 1 odds of him winning so 20,000 to 1 looks pretty good. I’ll take those odds.  Hey, the odds have been against I’ll Have Another from the beginning. I for one will cheer this horse on for all he’s worth.

  • David

    VISA and Chrysler prior to them evaluated involvement with the TC against other projects.  Cost included entitlement fees, minimum advertisement commitment, collateral support campaign and hospitality put-ups by the tracks.  An insurance policy against someone hitting the bonus was a mere line item.  The tracks couldn’t hold a deal together; yes, some intramurals contributed but overriding reason was diminished sponsor value for a top-heavy package deal (that is Derby was and is the eye candy) eventually leading to separate broadcast deals.   NBC will likely re-institute some sort of bonus but, short of IHA winning the Belmont, they’re not going to put a hefty support campaign that history says will likely be moot two weeks after the Derby.

  • h.schmelz

    all horses (us bred) in the belmont traditionally collapse after the 9 furlong marker. the winner is the least weak of this bunch. no winner forget the rest is a true middle distance horse according to epsom derby or arc standard. they are neither bred nor conditioned for this distance. hence, the outcome is less than an educated guess. it`s a gamble.

  • Turnbackthealarm

    To add to your respect for stamina conditioning, Afleet Alex, who finished a nice third in the Derby and a spectacular first in the Preakness, was brought out twice a day in the weeks leading up to the Belmont.  People thought Tim Ritchey was crazy, but Alex won.

  • LongTimeEconomist

    Bill, where did you come up with that 20,000 number???

  • McGov

    There are perhaps 6 times a year where the situation allows for serious handicapping and serious betting for me.  The Belmont, with a potential Triple Crown winner is one of those situations that I would normally ‘attack’.  The horse is always overbet and provides a unique opportunity to make money.
    This year, I will be in line with the $2 bettors and rooting for a horse that I believe can win it.  Feels like a bettor trip already.

  • Don Reed

    My condolences on the takeout on a $7,000,000 lottery hit.  Hope you had enough left over to buy a one-way ticket to Del Mar and a house right by the track, afterwards.

  • Frank L.

    Bill Finely —

    Your a blowhard! You don’t have to
    degrade yourself, publically, to sell papers. The odds of IHA of
    winning the Triple Crown are exactly what his odds are at post time
    is. If you, truly, believe what your spouting, lay it, and see if
    you have any takers?

    Again, the problem with the media —
    although we know Finely is joking, BUT, what angers me is that this
    type dishonesty, under the guise of jokingly, is used to get people
    to read the entire article, which then spouts subjective opinion as
    fact —- horses not bred for the grind. BULL — what is “NEVER”
    spoke about is the breeding of “unsound” Stallions and Broodmares
    to begin with. When is somebody going to do a reliable investigative
    report on the true reason behind breakdowns, short carriers, fewer
    starts?

    Here is a very short list of racing
    stars that are being bred, going into the breeding program, and being
    pointed to the breeding shed. These are horses that the recent public
    should be familiar with, and this is just the tip of the iceberg:

    Unbridled Song —  Fractured cannon bone;
    re-occurring feet/hoof problems ; Sire

                         
    of  many injury prone offspring.  Just Goggle
    his name!!

     Animal Kingdom — Stress fracture

    Havre de Grace — lateral ligament in ankle

    Misremembered — Tendon

    Dunkirk — condylar fracture

    Archarcharch — condylar fracture

    Princess Arabella — Tendon

    Eskendereya — Soft Tissue (usually tendon or
    suspensory)

    Winslow Homer — slab fracture

    Old Fashioned — slab fracture

    Question: If these horses could not hold up to
    training and racing, what makes people think that their offspring
    will fare much better — then we will hear about race no day
    medications when, in fact, it’s the faulty breeding, unsound
    breeding, that is causing the problems (breakdowns, less starts, need
    for medications) .

    It’s the breeding industry, that through the
    camouflage of banning race day medications, that Stallions, and
    Broodmares, are not investigated as to soundness, with respect to
    their racing careers, for breeding purposes!

     

  • ttowntony

    I’m not so sure about what this article is bringing out. IHA seems to be a horse that first of all has had own way in the last two races….he’s sat in the garden spot in both the KD, and Preakness, and pounced when asked. I also think he’s a tough son of a gun who’ll fight to win. Right now he doesn’t look like he’s raced in a month. He appears as fresh as can be. I just think the stars are aligned for this little guy to finally end the triple crown drought. That said, I’ll be rooting for another in the Belmont, and that is Union Rags. I still think he’s the best 3 year old out there, and I hope he proves just that on Belmont day.

  • ttowntony

     IHA also hasn’t encountered any adversity in either of those races. He’s definitely had his share of racing luck…so far. We’ll all just have to wait and see if that trend continues..

  • Ginkoubi

    I did not see the class of horse I expect to win the TC in his past performance. He was there but brought no fire or awe with him. Secretariat remains the last to have done so. You simply knew he was going to win. I don’t think I’ll Have Another has it.. If everybody else does not do well, he may win, but it will not be because he is great

  • Vetra Whittington

    If so I’ll take that bet all day long. I hope this doesn’t get anyone 2 torn up, but he reminds me a LITTLE, just A LITTLE of Sec. He knows when he need to go, and gets it done. Don’t have 2 win by a lot, but he wins. I do not expect him in anyway to come close 2 what SEC. did in the Belmont–but since he seems to know when to make His move–and he always has enough to “Get er done”

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