KY Derby, Oaks samples tested for Dermorphin

by | 06.27.2012 | 1:53pm
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Test samples taken from some of the runners in this year’s Kentucky Derby and Kentucky Oaks are in the process of being tested for dermorphin.

“Samples from the 2012 Kentucky Derby and Kentucky Oaks are currently being subjected to analysis for dermorphin,” Dr. Mary Scollay, the equine medical director for the Kentucky Horse Racing Commission told the Blood-Horse.

The equine laboratory began testing for the powerful painkiller last week. The process includes retrospective testing of samples taken from this year’s Derby and Oaks entrants.

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  • Perks

    anyone wanna place a bet on results?

  • Ace

    clean 1-9

  • stillriledup

     Death, taxes and the Ky Derby being a ‘clean’ race are life’s three surest things.

  • voiceofreason

    Clean 1 -1000.

  • cepatton28

    Why did they publish this before they had the results?

  • Nucky Thompson

    They better hop to it and get the dermorphin results out soon. If’ the samples are not clean we might as well pack up the tent and leave. 

  • cepatton28

    The test has been available for a while now.   KY must not have wanted to catch anybody so they waited til last week to test.    How about retesting all the winners for the meet.

  • The Cubs are in last place Ray

    They might be better off testing the nickel claimers than the Grade I horses.

  • One Horse Stable

    Except when the old guard wants to get a liberal invader such as Peter Fuller.

  • May Flower

    It is stunning that the KYHRC took only five Derby and four Oaks samples. 

  • stillriledup

    It would be nice if a lab that doesnt care one way or another if the Ky Derby gets a black eye do the testing as opposed to a lab that DOES care if the derby gets a black eye.

    I think people are skeptical that if a bad test comes up, they might brush it under the carpet. “The KY Derby is Fixed” is the last newspaper headline they want to see.

    Am i right?

  • Meyer1127

    Perhaps they could send it to LA or  NM lab for comparative testing?

  • onlooker

    why wasn’t this done at Derby time?

  • shep

    Does anyone know when the ITTP results come back?

  • Perks

    this perfected specific test has onlyl recently become available, thats why so many are showing up now & why they are re-testing samples that are frozen/warehoused/stored. Read the research articles.  They could go back as far as they want to and re-test any & alll, but purse monies are already gone/paid.

  • Lost In The Fog

    I have to agree with you.  While that limited number is apparently standard operating procedure in KY it would be more of a confidence builder if they tested the entire fields in races as prestigious as the Derby and Oaks.

  • Michael J. Arndt

    For you guys who werent around in the 60′s, they disqualified Dancer’s Image for traces of bute in his system after the 1968 Derby. This relatively benign med was legal in most jurisdictions, but not in Kentucky at that time. 

  • tfly

    Agree.   I think they should be testing any horse trained by one of the ‘can’t beat ‘em ‘ trainers, or should i say vets.

  • James Staples

    gotta believe they will be straight up???…they know the FED is looking over their shoulder…way past time for all race tracks n north anmercia to work together for the betterment of “THE GAME…

  • Twilight Tear

     Like Dr Allday, “Veterinarian to the Stars”
    Why do most “Super Trainers” use the same Vets??
    No rocket science here today.

  • Trisha

    and so what happens if the  results are positive?

  • Jackson

    Why even waste the money on this test…..SURELY there aren’t any cheaters in KY,NY,FL or CA….etc.  Are there?? It was recently reported by the NYTHA that “a test for the potent opioid Dermorphin is part of the post-race protocol in New York, and there have been no positives for the drug in the state.”  Surely if NY is clean the others must be too…..don’t you think?
    Oh……the Dermorphin test that NY has been using doesn’t catch SYNTHETIC DERMORPHIN the drug that has recently been detected in Louisiana, New Mexico & Oklahoma.  Oh…. like NY all these states used to test for Dermorphin (not the synthetic form) and they turned up ZERO positives doing so. Based on the NYTHA and in general Track Officials in these states, the cheaters only reside in OK, LA, & NM……Sure :)  
    One could assume “Synthetic Dermorphin” is just the “tip of the iceberg” and until the Stewards stop turning their heads to this fact and coddling the “leading Trainers” when violations are detected or suspected….the problem will persist and likely grow.  The Racing Industry must provide the funds necessary to advance testing procedures that are ahead of ALL the cheater’s chemists.  As it currently stands, it pays to cheat because the odds of being caught are extremely slim, purses are high, and if one is caught the penalties (if any) do little or nothing to discourage offenders.

  • Charlie Davis

    Do we know if they’re testing for demorphin or synthetic demorphin?  From what I read in the article, they’re testing for demorphin.  But like you mentioned, the positives were for synthetic demorphin which wouldn’t be caught by the test for demorphin.  

  • Jackson

    Charlie,
    I assume (probably shouldn’t) that they are testing for “Synthetic Dermorphin” because they make it sound like this “test” is an exception from their standard operating procedures.  I “BELIEVE” virtually all Labs have been testing for Dermorphin, but the “Synthetic” assay has only recently been developed…..hence the positives in OK, NM & LA.  If they aren’t testing specifically for “Synthetic Dermophin” then they are guilty of issuing deception press releases which only makes knowlegable racing fans question the core integrity of Race Track Officials.

  • Charlie Davis

    Thanks.  That’s what I’m thinking too, so I’ll just wait for the results.  I sure hope it’s a test for synthetic.

  • Bookiebuster1

     true but they still payed out the ALL  of the bets placed on race day…

  • sd7329865

     Also, this is discrimination by selecting only a few horses.   Why shoudn’t they all be tested?   And who chose which horses to test—one person? more than one? a committee??   And when was the selection decided upon?   Was there a commission meeting? and when?    Many questions left unanswered, and the rest being swept under the rug……Same old story……Same ole boys………

  • sd7329865

     Yes, but they forgot to tell you, every horse is not tested, and every horse will not have a frozen urine for this purpose.  Unfortunate for the trainers who do receive bad tests and are not told of this procedure, and they have to go through courts and high costs in order to prove their innocense, when they would be considered innocent anyway because the track has no way to prove their guilt by them not having a “split” test.  And where’s the “HBPA’s” who are “supposed” to be the “protectors” of the horsemen???????????

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