Judge Orders Nearly $500,000 Bond From Charities in Slaughter Suit

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U.S. Magistrate Robert Scott ordered The Humane Society of the United States and a collection of other rescue groups to pony up just under $500,000 in bond on Thursday to continue their suit against two slaughterhouses. The money is to compensate the slaughterhouses, based in New Mexico and Iowa, for their losses over the next 30 days while their business is stalled by the lawsuit.

Attorneys for the two companies claimed their clients’ losses amount to over $1.5 million per month, and will climb higher the longer the suit drags on.

A temporary restraining order was issued against horse slaughter at the two facilities after the rescue groups brought suit, claiming that the U.S. Department of Agriculture failed to do proper environmental impact studies on the practice before issuing permits to the businesses. A hearing will be held within the next month to determine whether the ban will continue.

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  • 14151617

    Those two must have installed high speed killing machines. To make that kind of money.
    I thought thier business plan was to help the poor, old, sick, lame, unwanted horses running around loose everwhere not to make that kind of money. So which is it.Humanitarism or the Money?

    • blackcatlover

      You wouldn’t think by reading their website, that it’s about the SLAUGHTER of horses, would you? Since when is slaughter euthanasia?? Their site sounds like a group of kind, horse loving people who feed horses carrots and give them hugs while they put them to sleep.

      • ziggiepop

        Isn’t that the truth? Their website is as fake as their compassion.

        • Roisin

          Someone smarter than I am needs to challenge the website. Surely there is a way to do that ?

      • Casey

        I work for an equine vet. You people watch too many Disney movies. When we “put a horse to sleep” , the drug administered stops their heart. They don’t go to sleep, they don’t hear lullabies , they basically have a heart attack. I’d take a bullet any day.

    • ziggiepop

      I am with you. It seems, just with the talk of opening these killing places, that I am seeing more and more reports of horse thefts.

  • Richard C

    The to start taking a look at the past and current political connections of Scott.

  • Cconcerned Observer

    In the 1950′s and “60′s America built the interstate highway system in 15 years.
    Today, we can’t build one bridge across the Ohio River in 30 years. Why?
    Protests of everything…protest protest protest. Look for a sympathetic judge and file suit.
    If it is legal ..move on.
    If you don’t like it…change the law….if you have the votes.
    BUT…If you lose..shut up and move on….that is what democracy is all about.

    • 14151617

      You don’t get out much do you.Political back door antics removing the de-funding clause at the last minute without notice before the vote on the entire package to avoid the so called Fiscal Cliff started this back up.Every minute of the day actions to change the law go on.The President,USDA, and Both Houses of Congress have the de-funding back in the farm bill Appropriations.If Congress would now get off their do nothing behinds and get the changes passed with the VOTES we have then this would not be a discussion today.

      • Cconcerned Observer

        I get out plenty and I even listen to both sides of the arguments…rare these days.
        Fine, if you can change the law…go for it. That is how the system works. But if you lose,…. then grow -up and act like a supportive citizen. In a civilized nation we are not allowed to obey only the laws we agree with.

        • 14151617

          No one is calling for civil disobedience.Don’t have to support anything that I, nor 75 to 80% of the Citizen do not want in this country.

        • circusticket

          Our democracy is not working the way it should. Boehner uses the Hastert “rule” and doesn’t put anything up for a vote unless the majority of the majority party is in favor. That’s not democracy! That’s hijacking the system to get your way and only your way.

          I would be willing to move on if people played by the rules.

      • Payasito

        You don’t get out much do you? Don’t you know that we live under one party rule now, and oh by the way, we don’t have a president anymore, we have a king! I think it’s all so exciting!! Nothing will get accomplished until bozo is out of the White House:-))
        Sorry, I couldn’t resist.

        • 14151617

          I accept that.

        • LaraHa

          we do live under a one=party rule – and that is the called the do-nothing GOP that refuse to even look at a jobs bill. the baby tea-baggers are holding up the business of government and is essence ruling it.

  • Dobeplayer

    This is a tough one. I abhor even the thought of horse slaughter – and, no, it’s not the old and infirm horses that fill the kill pens – but I have to be at least marginally cheered that this is going to cost HSUS. That group and PETA top my list of organizations I’d like to see bankrupted.

    • WT

      I agree PETA is a bunch of nut jobs, but what do you have against HSUS? They do great work.

      • Dobeplayer

        Wayne Pacelle is on record as being against animal ownership. I love animals – I especially love my horses, dogs and cats and I go to a great deal of expense caring for them properly. I am unaware of any great work done by HSUS other than raising money for themselves. I am also unaware of any rescues or shelters operated by HSUS.

        • kyhorsegal

          HSUS is a lobbying group – not a rescue! I am not saying they are right in this particular situation but they speak for a lot of domestic and wild animals and have been able to get a lot of good laws passed protecting animals.

    • Roisin

      I do not see where PETA is at all involved in this issue. And as for the HSUS, yes, there are faults with the organization but at least it is a voice for the voiceless in the political arena. How else would that “voice” be heard ? Do you know ?
      And why are you happy with the “punitive” decision. Do you also support the so called Ag. Gag laws ?
      PS I will continue my support of the HSUS until something comes along.

      • Dobeplayer

        Roisin, It is certainly your right to support HSUS, even if that support does puzzle me. I’m guessing you like Thoroughbreds since you are reading the Paulick Report. I’m also guessing that you would not like to see the breed made extinct.
        Well, Wayne Pacelle sure wouldn’t mind:

        “We have no ethical obligation to preserve the different breeds of
        livestock produced through selective breeding …One generation and out.
        We have no problems with the extinction of domestic animals. They are
        creations of human selective breeding.” – CEO Wayne Pacelle, as reported
        in Animal People News, May1993
        I enjoy my OTTB and I’m thankful there were people who tried to breed a winning race horse (even if his race career wasn’t exactly stellar).
        I’m thankful to the people who bred my Foundation-line Quarter Horse for giving me such a versatile horse.
        I have Doberman Pinschers and I am thankful that I found a great breeder who is committed to pedigree research and health testing to produce Dobes that are to the standard and are sound mentally.

        What a crime it would be to allow a bully like HSUS take it all away.

        • Hobbyfarmer

          Awesome, great research. It’s great you pulled out a 20 year old probably misquote to discredit HSUS. Bravo!

        • Roisin

          I will continue my support of the HSUS until something better comes along. The organization has been front and center on animal issues and was instrumental in gaining a modicum of protection for the “voiceless.”.
          As I said before, the organization has faults but I can overlook them in cases of cruelty, ETC. Also the HSUS was successful re better treatment for the so called “downers” at our slaughter houses as well as keeping the meat out of the food chain. Until then, the treatment was abhorrent and a disgrace to a civilized society. The USDA is very inadequate.
          I have eight Thoroughbreds, plus a beautiful pony that was once starving. I too have dogs all “needed a good home”. I don’t buy from breeders. My Thoroughbreds once raced and had nowhere to go. I do not agree with the AQHA’s support of horse slaughter or their breeding practices.
          PS I’m afraid the bully tactics are not coming from the HSUS !!!!

          • Dobeplayer

            Roisin,
            Just where do you think all these animals that you have rescued came from?
            There are good and ethical breeders out there. Why are you tarring them with the same brush as the ‘greeders’? While a blanket condemnation is easier (saving one the trouble of sorting the wheat from the chaff, as it were), it is counter-productive if you want our animals to have a future as species. Or did you not understand one generation and out.
            You obviously love your animals. I am just sorry you don’t want to see there are people out there whose goal it is is to ensure that one day you won’t any any animals.

          • Roisin

            “Just where do you think all these animals that you have rescued came from ?” Well as you know, they are the result of human intervention and in many cases the result of the lack of responsible human intervention ! Yes, there are well intentioned breeders out there but most animal breeding is about making money. And in the case of small animals, the lack of spaying and neutering is because it costs money. Of course, there are elements of human nature involved such as ignorance and lack of responsibility as well as cruelty at every level.
            Breeding is about money ,ego and fame. How many” throwaways” are produced compared to the number of “keepers”. What is the fate of the vast majority of animals that do not meet the “standards” set by humans. Yes, I know where my animals came from and I know of many others desperately in need of homes but will not find any.
            PS Considering the numbers of Thoroughbreds alone sent to slaughter year after year I don’t foresee a shortage any time soon !!

    • Hobbyfarmer

      You are another person who obviously has no idea who the HSUS is. Where do you get your info, Slaughterhouse Sue?

      • Dobeplayer

        Oh I know exactly what HSUS is. If you know what to look for, it’s never difficult to spot an AR wing nut.
        Slaughterhouse Sue? Really? What are you, in kindergarten?

  • 14151617

    What if HSUS does lose.

    According to newspaper quotes.ST LOUIS DISPATCH

    The New Mexico Environment Department told Valley Meat Co. of Roswell, which has a lapsed discharge permit, that it won’t renew the permit without a public hearing because of extensive comments already received.

    Valley Meat Co. attorney Blair Dunn said the lack of permit would not prevent the plant from opening as planned Aug. 5, but it would increase the cost of doing business because the plant would have to haul its waste.
    Waste is going to be dumped somewhere else.
    With no testing or oversight.Do you want it in your town?

    • LaraHa

      so did the plant open?

      • 14151617

        No judge ordered temp injunction.Bond is in case HSUS and others lose the permanent injunction.I believe next court date is Sept 3,for proceeding to start.

  • Roisin

    Sounds to me like the ”companies” did not do their homework. They invested in horse slaughter first and then decided to deal with such minor details such as waste disposal. And since there was a failure to do required studies then why should the entities suing be liable for “losses.” Are they not just requiring the Dept. of Agriculture to do what should be done ?
    I agree with Richard C. re. looking at the political connections, past and current, of Scott.

    • Hobbyfarmer

      Yes, and they are absolutely losing a million a month! Riiiiight!

      • 14151617

        Don’t you just love it we taxpayers are having to defend ourselves(GOV.AGENCY)DOJ paid by our taxes.Against ourselves for not wanting horse slaughter . If we win we have still spent the money to defend what we don’t want.If slaughter house owners win our tax dollars will pay for Gov.USDA inspectors and to clean up of the mess that will be left behind again..We still lose.
        I think there is something very wrong with that picture.

  • Payasito

    “The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are
    treated.”
    ~ Mohandas Gandhi

    We are so screwed!

  • Mimi Hunter

    I used to take my feeder pigs to an auction in a nearby town every third or fourth Monday. It was behind an SPCA. On Mondays they incinerated the dogs that didn’t get adopted. The smell of burning hair was horrible. I tend to not listen to anything any of the ‘humane groups’ say.

    • Hobbyfarmer

      The animals were euthanized first, not burned alive you moron.

      • Mimi Hunter

        Yes. They were ‘euthanized’ in decompression chamber and then burned

        • Roisin

          Shame on those still using the decompression chamber . You are most likely talking about a county Animal Control facility and not a volunteer Humane Shelter. There is a difference. Further, since you were aware how these unfortunate animals were killed I hope you took some action re. advocating for a more humane method. At the very least, you wrote a letter to the local paper, right ?

          • Mimi Hunter

            It always said it was volunteer, raved about it nice new facility pretty regular when asking for donations. Hopefully it is no longer functioning, but I haven’t been there in a while. Wrote letters, etc. It really made me wonder how those around the camps in Germany and Poland could say they didn’t know….
            I have mixed feelings about the slaughterhouses. I know it’s PC to be against slaughter, but there are many instances where it would have been a better way to go. When ‘Wild Horse Annie’ first started her work to protect the mustangs, they were really nice looking animals – sound – healthy – etc. Now they’re often in large feed lot like places – sick – skinny – crippled. Can you really say this is better? Has to be a better way.

          • Hobbyfarmer

            I doubt she did much since she makes money selling meat animals. Don’t want to rock the boat, you know.

  • keyraceray

    Million and a half dollars, huh. Thats a lot of worthless horse guts. The line between sick and well suddenly looks very blurry.Human dignity weighs less than nothing.

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