What Next for Rick Dutrow?

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Now that Rick Dutrow’s 10-year ban from New York racing has taken effect and his horses transferred to other trainers, how might the rest of the story play out?

Is it still possible Dutrow could find legal relief at the federal level?  Could he set up shop elsewhere or continue to work behind the scenes training horses?

“It’s not looking real good for him,” said Louisville attorney Robert Heleringer, a former state lawmaker and racing official who has literally written the book on Equine Regulatory Law.

While Dutrow’s legal options have reached the last-resort stage, he could still petition a federal court for an injunction that would halt the suspension, with the case possibly being returned to the New York appellate courts.  But Heleringer said the odds are significantly stacked against Dutrow.

“He’d have to hit the equivalent of a Pick 6 on Breeders’ Cup day,” he said.  “You have to be lucky enough to get the right judge to say perhaps he’s been given a bad rap, but based on the facts so far, he’s going to have a difficult time even getting an injunction.  You have to give them some grounds that you’re going to prevail on the merits of the case.  Otherwise, you’re not entitled to an injunction.”

Heleringer said federal courts are loath to “do the work of state courts” unless there is an obvious violation of federal constitutional rights.  The New York Court of Appeals has already ruled that Dutrow’s case involved “no substantial constitutional question.”  Heleringer said arguments that Dutrow’s punishment was too severe or that he was singled out have also fallen on deaf ears in court.

“If anything, he’s had multiple opportunities to practice his profession in compliance with the rules.  After all of those infractions, I don’t think any court will say he’s been discriminated against.  I don’t know what legal strategy he could employ that would meet with any success, given his record.”

As for training horses outside of New York, while there is no legal requirement for tracks and jurisdictions to honor bans in other states, Heleringer said since the 1930s states have done so anyway.

“They did it as a form of self-preservation,” Heleringer said.  “If a guy’s a cheater in one state and can merely pick up next door and resume his illegal and unlawful activities, how are you protecting the sport?”

Heleringer admitted some states, like Louisiana, have a reputation for being more lax when it comes to honoring suspensions, but Dutrow’s notoriety makes it less likely a state would take that chance.

“There would be a lot of pressure on any state where he would show up and apply,” said Heleringer.  “His record is so immense that it’s not like some relatively unknown guy who got ruled off in one state and could go off to a remote state and pick up where he left off.”

If Dutrow did apply for a license elsewhere, and he was denied, Heleringer said he would have to include that information on any future applications – something that would further hinder his chances of being able to train once the 10-year ban is over.

Some have wondered whether Dutrow might figure out a way to stay off the radar, training horses behind the scenes.  The 53-year-old has transferred horses to friends and/or former colleagues, including Wesley Ward and Rudy Rodriguez.  Michelle Nevin, a previous assistant and former girlfriend of Dutrow’s, passed her trainer’s test in Florida last week and was given 20 stalls at Gulfstream Park.

The New York order, which Gulfstream President and GM Tim Ritvo said the track would follow, prohibits Dutrow from taking part in “any arrangements made to care for, train, enter, race, invoice, collect fees or payments, manage funds, employ or insure workers, provide advice or information, or otherwise assist with any aspect of training of the horse.”

“We will follow the lines and the order of the New York ruling to a tee,” Ritvo said. He said track officials spoke with Nevin and with other horsemen prior to giving her the opportunity to train and have stalls.  They agreed to give her a chance.

“We told her if we found any ties back to (Rick), then we would basically rescind her stalls,” Ritvo said. “Have we done an investigation of her phone records? No, we haven’t reached that point. But we gave her a pretty strict warning.”

Heleringer said trainers as well as owners who had horses with Dutrow would be taking a big risk of getting ruled off themselves if they allowed him to have any participation, influence, or input.

“It’s going to difficult for him to do anything on a surreptitious basis because of who he is.  He’s going to be under such a microscope.  People don’t trust him.  Some of his former owners are going to be scrutinized, and their horses.  A Dutrow watch will be in existence.”

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  • voiceofreason

    Scapegoat for a broken industry. While some get suspensions, others get Eclipse awards.

    • Noelle

      If racing is going to really deal with its problems, meaningful punishment has to start somewhere, with someone.  Only time will tell whether Dutrow’s being scapegoated, or is rather the first in a line of serial violators to suffer real consequences from repeatedly breaking the rules.  Anything to do with drugs, however “minor” certainly should be one, two, three times you’re out, end of story.

    • http://www.facebook.com/SusanKayne Susan Kayne

      You are so right… NYSRWB is total hypocrisy — my experience: http://unbridledracing.blogspot.com/2013/01/dutrow-suspension-reveals-hypocrisy-of.html

      • tfly

        Great article Susan.  Why not take your evidence to the Att. Gen.’s office?

        • http://www.facebook.com/SusanKayne Susan Kayne

          I have tfly. Thankfully, the AGs IS interested in equine welfare. It is in the works. And — thank you very much for taking time to read and comment. Much appreciated.

          • Thomalene E.

            I did also read the link….. it will be very interesting in the AG really does get involved…… REAL intersting…..although I have little faith they will do so….

      • Roisin

        Thank you so much for doing this. I hope it will be the catalyst for desperately needed changes.

    • dr. ichabod

      your 100% correct!!! dutrow is and will always be the best. you have clowns winning gr. 1 races and suddenly there horses die, get sick, etc. where is the uproar when that happens?? there are lots of lance armstrongs in this game

      • RocIngersall

         The “best” ?  uhm ok

    • concerned horse owner

      Yes Horse racing is broke???  like Baseball?  Bonds, Clemens, Petite,Sosa, Maguire?…like cycling?  Who wasnt cheating?

      • Roisin

        So cheating is a way of life ! What a shame.

        • Black Helen

           DIFFERENCE IS HUMANS CAN “CHOOSE” TO USE DRUGS, HORSES HAVE NO CHOICE WHEN THEY ARE DRUGGED.
          THAT IN MY OPINION CONSTITUTES ABUSE AND I ADORE HORSE RACING!!!

           HOW DO YOU THINK THE GENERAL PUBLIC VIEWS OUR SPORT?? CROOKED, CROOKED, CROOKED.

          • concerned horse owner

            There are much more drugs used in Baseball , Football, cycling. American way of life!  Your superbowls, world series, home run records, cy young records, tours de France all BS.
            MOST HORSES ARE NOT DRUGGED with Perfomance enhancers.

      • Bookie Buster

         However a big difference though the horses can not say “no” to those jabs as those people certainly could have…

    • Randallawton

      not broken,cause it’s been happening,since it could happen;so guess it was fine before?their just implementing,rulings that should have been in place,long ago.but you know,was’nt long ago,did’nt have the ability to test for alot of the dopeing=blackbox,epo,lots more also,&they’ll need to keep up,with the testing,chemist’s will or are already figureing a way around;what their testing for!going forward the right way;I Know!!!

  • voiceofreason

    Scapegoat for a broken industry. While some get suspensions, others get Eclipse awards.

  • Sandy M

    He’s the Martha Stewart of horse racing. Cheating, like insider trading, happens all the time. They just went after him (and Martha) because he’s so unpopular.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nick-Arden/1054071262 Nick Arden

      And why is he so unpopular…?

      • Sandy M

        Well, let’s see…

        Rick’s dad was a fine horseman and a gentleman. Rick’s brother Tony? Ditto. Rick? Not so much so. I feel bad that Rick’s dad must be rolling in his grave right now.

        • horseowner

          The bottom line for Rick Dutrow was that he was not liked by the racing authorities. He came across as arrogant. He is a great trainer. Yes , he got caught cheating and that should have humbled him! It apparently didn’t, now he got a ten year suspension. I believe he is unable to hang out at any barns, so he would not be able to operate using his trainer/girlfriend. At this point, he will have to make a living doing something else x l0 years. There are a few other great trainers that got caught juicing and also won the derby but they seem to be liked and do not come across as arrogant.

    • Nyminute09

      look at carlos guerrero, he got a 10 year ban at Parx, but the show keeps on going, by keeping it in the family. His brother went from winning 3 races from 84 starts in 2011, to winning 83.races in 2012 with earnings of $1,874,000.

      There will always be a way for Dutrow to be involved…if there is a will there is a way and the cheaters keep cheating. Everyone knows it, its just normally kept hush hush and nothing is done about it..(point in case guerrero) but hopefully, scapegoat or not- dutrow is guilty n needs to pay…

    • Don Reed

      I think Rich is more like Leona Helmsley (God rest her little tax-cheatin’, ex-felonious soul).  Neither of them have been photographed in a kitchen (where she was cooking the books).

      • Black Helen

         Loved Leona!! At least she knew how many napkins were on the tables… Do you really think these super trainers with hundreds of horses ever run THEIR hands down a horses legs??

  • Sandy M

    He’s the Martha Stewart of horse racing. Cheating, like insider trading, happens all the time. They just went after him (and Martha) because he’s so unpopular.

  • Noelle

    If racing is going to really deal with its problems, meaningful punishment has to start somewhere, with someone.  Only time will tell whether Dutrow’s being scapegoated, or is rather the first in a line of serial violators to suffer real consequences from repeatedly breaking the rules.  Anything to do with drugs, however “minor” certainly should be one, two, three times you’re out, end of story.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nick-Arden/1054071262 Nick Arden

    And why is he so unpopular…?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/TSL2ON5J75IYYIUJIPZRK2SVQ4 Mike

    I already told those close to Rick – The best thing for him would be to open a training ceter in Ocala and train horses off the farm for owners – completely legit

    • Loonylinda1

      We don’t want him here either Mike……

    • forestwildcat

       If he comes here i’ll go to work for him

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/TSL2ON5J75IYYIUJIPZRK2SVQ4 Mike

    I already told those close to Rick – The best thing for him would be to open a training ceter in Ocala and train horses off the farm for owners – completely legit

  • Nyminute09

    look at carlos guerrero, he got a 10 year ban at Parx, but the show keeps on going, by keeping it in the family. His brother went from winning 3 races from 84 starts in 2011, to winning 83.races in 2012 with earnings of $1,874,000.

    There will always be a way for Dutrow to be involved…if there is a will there is a way and the cheaters keep cheating. Everyone knows it, its just normally kept hush hush and nothing is done about it..(point in case guerrero) but hopefully, scapegoat or not- dutrow is guilty n needs to pay…

  • Bymany

    In the same article you find the following two sentences :

    “It’s going to be difficult for him to do anything on a surreptitious basis because of who he is.  He’s going to be under such a microscope.”

    “Michelle Nevin, a previous assistant and former girlfriend of Dutrow’s, passed her trainer’s test in Florida last week and was given 20 stalls at Gulfstream Park.”Am I the only one that thinks something smells fishy already?

  • Bymany

    In the same article you find the following two sentences :

    “It’s going to be difficult for him to do anything on a surreptitious basis because of who he is.  He’s going to be under such a microscope.”

    “Michelle Nevin, a previous assistant and former girlfriend of Dutrow’s, passed her trainer’s test in Florida last week and was given 20 stalls at Gulfstream Park.”Am I the only one that thinks something smells fishy already?

    • Hossracergp

      I think you smell your upper lip. Perhaps she has enough talent, learned from a good horseman, and has quality horses in her barn to be competitive at Gulfstream. Some people have become so obsessed with wanting to see Dutrow get what they think he has coming to him that they everyone who was around him is guilty by association. Open your mind and let the bats out….here in the US people are innocent until proven guilty, not convicted in the court of public rumor innuendo and uniformed opinion. Nevin is a former girlfriend….big deal. The racetrack is a small world if you turn over enough rocks you’ll find dirt on everyone even those you currently believe are squeaky clean. 

      • Bymany

        Really??  She passed her trainer’s test LAST WEEK and THIS WEEK she has 20 horses worthy of stalls at Gulfstream.  Watch out for those Big Foots piloting UFOs.

      • PomDeTerre

        he already WAS proven guilty.  open up your mind and learn to read.  nevin is nothing more than a storefron operation for dutrow’s armchair training.  every owner is going to give a 3 day licensed trainer their stakes horses- right.  she didn’t even have the balls to show her face in the winner’s circle when teaks north won the sunshine turf. 

    • Roisin

      I know a very experienced trainer who was refused stalls at Gulf Stream this season.

  • Loonylinda1

    We don’t want him here either Mike……

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NM4J5RVFFKHXFV73JFLDKLNQRU AndyT

    transferring some of the horses to Rudy R, is just as bad as Dutrow still having the horses….Rudy learned from Rick….so Im sure Rudy has the same needles and drugs as what he was taught by Dutrow…..and isn’t it amazing that he transfers a stakes horse to his ex girlfriend in her 1st race as a trainer and it happens to wire the field with noooo issues whatsoever……BS

    • Justmyopinion

      Nothing you said is of any relevance!  Yeah Rudy is just as bad as Dutrow! Wow! please tell me that someone is not automatically guilty because of previous association.  If that’s the case, then we’re all in trouble.

      So stop the speculations and if you are going to accuse someone else or imply wrong doing, then have the facts to back it up.  Thank you.

    • concerned horse owner

      Rudy Rodriguez is a great trainer and has never been accused of any doping or cheating! His winning percentage is phenomenal and his horses are tested regularly just like everyone elses.

      • Ssk12955

        If it smells like fire, there usually is fire. RR has not been caught. You have your horses with a trainer that in all probility is taking an edge. Is winning so important to you?

        • horseowner

          Winning is important!  But owners do not want to be associated with vanned off horses, jockey injuries,cheating  or drugs!!!  It is very embarrassing! Most owners tend to be proud of their horses and trainers, and enjoy the sport. I am more against the owners that claim and run the horse every 4 to 5 days until  the horse breaks down. They got great decent winning percentages but apparently don’t care about the safety of the horses and jockeys.

      • Tinky

        Give us a break. 

        Anyone who seriously believes that clean tests equals clean trainers is living in a dream world.

        Presumably you were also convinced of Lance Armstrong’s innocence until his Oprah Winfrey moment.

        Sheesh.

        • Don Reed

          T, if you would refrain from posing as the apostle of sanity, some of your better points would be convincing in their own right.

      • Roisin

        And Lance Armstrong tested negative over his years of competition !!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NM4J5RVFFKHXFV73JFLDKLNQRU AndyT

    transferring some of the horses to Rudy R, is just as bad as Dutrow still having the horses….Rudy learned from Rick….so Im sure Rudy has the same needles and drugs as what he was taught by Dutrow…..and isn’t it amazing that he transfers a stakes horse to his ex girlfriend in her 1st race as a trainer and it happens to wire the field with noooo issues whatsoever……BS

  • Skip Ean

    Yes, it all looks so bleak for poor Ricky…the wise ass never thought the industry would catch him at his games.  I would love to believe that he will be out of racing for 10 years, but this guy prides himself on knowing all the angles and more.  Don’t be surprised if he finds a cosy little secret niche and continues to rake the big bucks in.  He’s an unprincipled guy who only cares about himself.  He earned this kick in the rump.

    • Justmyopinion

      Hey! call Rick what you want ‘unprinciplied’ ‘wise ass’ and so on….

      However, the last time I checked, Rick wasn’t grooming or getting on horses all by himself.  The guy isn’t just fighting for his livelyhood, but the 40 to 50 people that are now unemployed.  Ask any of Rick’s employees about the man they called their boss (well, at least as of January 17th) and they’ll tell you that he gave a crap and many times extened help monitary or otherwise beyond the regular work enviroment.  Rick Dutrow  finally screwed the pooch! but regardless he treated his workers the same way he treated his horses, with the best care! I challenge anyone to say otherwise.  So to say he cares only about himself, NOT.

      • B

        You are supposed to take care of your horses and pay your help.

        FYI it is Monetary not “Monitary”

      • Skip Ean

        JMO–none of that counts under the laws he broke.  That he is liked and respected by some in the business is not central to this issue.  Yes, I understand full well that people will have a tough time switching jobs, but i am hoping for their sake that they can make something happen through their connections and Dutrow’s.  One big fish got caught and has been punished.  There are more–you and I know that–big names as well as small at the highest echelons of training.  Maybe this incident will wise them up that the game is changing and cheating isn’t good for the sport.

        • Ssk12955

          Look at thorograph figs. the trainers that consistantly move horse up by uneasonable amounts are the cheeters. It is a matter of public record.

        • Tinky

          The (big) problem with your overly optimistic appraisal is that very few of Dutrow’s violations had anything to do with real cheating. Yes, he was a cheater, and yes, there are plenty of others. But until they are actually caught, they can and will avoid Dutrow’s fate by simply avoiding being reckless.

        • Roisin

          What if Rick talks ??

          • Skip Ean

            Do you mean implicate others, squeal on them?  That would be good for racing but also typical behavior of a rat on a sinking ship.  I think the biggies in racing all stick up for one another and are silent on ethics, horses to slaughter, drugging, etc., because they all have to play with one another and don’t want their income lessened by internal feuds.  Even the highly respected trainers who don’t cheat won’t speak out against the Dutrows in racing because it violates the brotherhood and risks losing lucrative industry connections.

          • Don Reed

            Bad idea.  Interrogators would be driven crazy hearing the word “Babe” in every other senence.

          • Roisin

            Thank you for your excellent analysis. I know a very good trainer who has worked with some of our horses that had been with a high profile trainer.

            The horses improved immensely with the “new” trainer but when I eluded to that fact with a hint of criticism I met with “the code of silence”!

          • http://Bellwether4u.com James Staples

            hes hung out in NYC so you better believe he keeps that TRAP SHUT!!!…ty…

        • Black Helen

           Cheating may not be good for he sport, but it certainly is good for the “Super Trainers”
          I’ll take a Mott or Allen Jerkens over a super trainer any day of the week.
           Why are the Pletchers, Assmussen, Brown etc, called super trainers?, because they have the “super juice”

      • Thomalene E.

        None of his help is now unemployed….. they are working for WW and RR, and Michelle, the people who “took over” the horses….. Idiot.

      • Don Reed

        Yeah, he cared so much for the people working for them that he cleaned up his act, didn’t get suspended, and his workers still have their jobs.

  • Skip Ean

    Yes, it all looks so bleak for poor Ricky…the wise ass never thought the industry would catch him at his games.  I would love to believe that he will be out of racing for 10 years, but this guy prides himself on knowing all the angles and more.  Don’t be surprised if he finds a cosy little secret niche and continues to rake the big bucks in.  He’s an unprincipled guy who only cares about himself.  He earned this kick in the rump.

  • Justmyopinion

    Nothing you said is of any relevance!  Yeah Rudy is just as bad as Dutrow! Wow! please tell me that someone is not automatically guilty because of previous association.  If that’s the case, then we’re all in trouble.

    So stop the speculations and if you are going to accuse someone else or imply wrong doing, then have the facts to back it up.  Thank you.

  • Justmyopinion

    Hey! call Rick what you want ‘unprinciplied’ ‘wise ass’ and so on….

    However, the last time I checked, Rick wasn’t grooming or getting on horses all by himself.  The guy isn’t just fighting for his livelyhood, but the 40 to 50 people that are now unemployed.  Ask any of Rick’s employees about the man they called their boss (well, at least as of January 17th) and they’ll tell you that he gave a crap and many times extened help monitary or otherwise beyond the regular work enviroment.  Rick Dutrow  finally screwed the pooch! but regardless he treated his workers the same way he treated his horses, with the best care! I challenge anyone to say otherwise.  So to say he cares only about himself, NOT.

  • B

    You are supposed to take care of your horses and pay your help.

    FYI it is Monetary not “Monitary”

  • Glimmerglass

    How about Louisiana?

    Louisiana Downs accepted Jockey Patrick Valenzuela without much issue after the CHRB “permanently” revoked his license to ride on Sept. 18, 2008. Most racing jurisdictions adhered to that revocation save for the pronounced exception in the bayou. 

  • Glimmerglass

    How about Louisiana?

    Louisiana Downs accepted Jockey Patrick Valenzuela without much issue after the CHRB “permanently” revoked his license to ride on Sept. 18, 2008. Most racing jurisdictions adhered to that revocation save for the pronounced exception in the bayou. 

  • Skip Ean

    JMO–none of that counts under the laws he broke.  That he is liked and respected by some in the business is not central to this issue.  Yes, I understand full well that people will have a tough time switching jobs, but i am hoping for their sake that they can make something happen through their connections and Dutrow’s.  One big fish got caught and has been punished.  There are more–you and I know that–big names as well as small at the highest echelons of training.  Maybe this incident will wise them up that the game is changing and cheating isn’t good for the sport.

  • http://www.facebook.com/SusanKayne Susan Kayne

    You are so right… NYSRWB is total hypocrisy — my experience: http://unbridledracing.blogspo

  • dr. ichabod

    your 100% correct!!! dutrow is and will always be the best. you have clowns winning gr. 1 races and suddenly there horses die, get sick, etc. where is the uproar when that happens?? there are lots of lance armstrongs in this game

  • railbirdpete

     If only Lance Armstrong’s girlfriend could ride a bike!!

    All this sports drugging makes my sick…You get caught..You’re gone !!

    Spare the rod…Spoil the sport!!

    Pete
    Canada

  • railbirdpete

     If only Lance Armstrong’s girlfriend could ride a bike!!

    All this sports drugging makes my sick…You get caught..You’re gone !!

    Spare the rod…Spoil the sport!!

    Pete
    Canada

  • Bristling

    Suffolk Downs

    • Matt Clarke

       better do some research fella instead of spouting drivel!

  • Bristling

    Suffolk Downs

  • Concerned horse owner

    Out of the 21 horses that broke down at Aqueduct in the Winter meet  2011-2012, which trainers had the most  horses?  Sometimes its just bad luck, but sometimes there is a pattern of abuse? Not sure if anyone  has  the breakdown? 

  • Concerned horse owner

    Out of the 21 horses that broke down at Aqueduct in the Winter meet  2011-2012, which trainers had the most  horses?  Sometimes its just bad luck, but sometimes there is a pattern of abuse? Not sure if anyone  has  the breakdown? 

  • concerned horse owner

    Rudy Rodriguez is a great trainer and has never been accused of any doping or cheating! His winning percentage is phenomenal and his horses are tested regularly just like everyone elses.

  • Matt Clarke

     better do some research fella instead of spouting drivel!

  • Concerned Horse owner

    What’s the differince between Dutrow and Bill Bellichick??? Both great trainers/coaches. Both do anything to win. Both  considered the best in their respected industries.  I am sure alot of St. Louis Ram fans are unhappy with Billichick videoing their practice and knowing their playbook  before the superbowl…but then again Patriots were fined and lost a draft pick.  GO FIX THE OTHER SPORTS TOO!!! Baseball, Football,etc.

    • Ssk12955

      He was not druging his players to get an edge.

      • horseowner

        Are you sure there are no drugs in Football?   

  • Concerned Horse owner

    What’s the differince between Dutrow and Bill Bellichick??? Both great trainers/coaches. Both do anything to win. Both  considered the best in their respected industries.  I am sure alot of St. Louis Ram fans are unhappy with Billichick videoing their practice and knowing their playbook  before the superbowl…but then again Patriots were fined and lost a draft pick.  GO FIX THE OTHER SPORTS TOO!!! Baseball, Football,etc.

  • concerned horse owner

    Yes Horse racing is broke???  like Baseball?  Bonds, Clemens, Petite,Sosa, Maguire?…like cycling?  Who wasnt cheating?

  • Hossracergp

    I think you smell your upper lip. Perhaps she has enough talent, learned from a good horseman, and has quality horses in her barn to be competitive at Gulfstream. Some people have become so obsessed with wanting to see Dutrow get what they think he has coming to him that they everyone who was around him is guilty by association. Open your mind and let the bats out….here in the US people are innocent until proven guilty, not convicted in the court of public rumor innuendo and uniformed opinion. Nevin is a former girlfriend….big deal. The racetrack is a small world if you turn over enough rocks you’ll find dirt on everyone even those you currently believe are squeaky clean. 

  • Ssk12955

    If it smells like fire, there usually is fire. RR has not been caught. You have your horses with a trainer that in all probility is taking an edge. Is winning so important to you?

  • Aunt Bea

    Where are you, Missus B. Irwin,   Hey Hey Hey…..

  • Ssk12955

    He was not druging his players to get an edge.

  • Ssk12955

    He is truly a piece of crap. cheating selfish, greedy. Looking for an edge to cash a bet.

  • Ssk12955

    Look at thorograph figs. the trainers that consistantly move horse up by uneasonable amounts are the cheeters. It is a matter of public record.

  • Wallasa2

    Whats the difference between bob baffert and Rick Dutrow…Nothing….Baffert was caught using a substance way more harmfull and it got wiped under the carpet…why..he has more money behind him….Dutrow pissed someone off….thats why they went after him………..Old old story in racing…not what you know..its who you know and money talks and bullshit walks…

  • Roisin

    I know a very experienced trainer who was refused stalls at Gulf Stream this season.

  • Tinky

    Politics?

  • Tinky

    Politics?

  • Tinky

    The (big) problem with your overly optimistic appraisal is that very few of Dutrow’s violations had anything to do with real cheating. Yes, he was a cheater, and yes, there are plenty of others. But until they are actually caught, they can and will avoid Dutrow’s fate by simply avoiding being reckless.

  • Tinky

    Give us a break. 

    Anyone who seriously believes that clean tests equals clean trainers is living in a dream world.

    Presumably you were also convinced of Lance Armstrong’s innocence until his Oprah Winfrey moment.

    Sheesh.

  • Thomalene E.

    None of his help is now unemployed….. they are working for WW and RR, and Michelle, the people who “took over” the horses….. Idiot.

  • Mzebriski

    Not sure what planet Mr. Ritvo lives on, but everyone on the backside knows that Nevin and Dutrow are still an item.  Applaud the thorough investigation though.

    Isn’t is amazing how the owners of those twenty horses had absolutely no problem giving their charges to a woman that didn’t even have her training license yet, when there were so many other great choices like Chad Brown, Todd Pletcher, and Dale Romans…all who employ the serves of wonder vet Steve Allday, just like Ricky did!

    And isn’t it amazing that Rudy Rodriguez, a perfect nice guy, but a jockey who rode 2 horses a month for somebody other than Ricky, suddenly becomes an amazing trainer overnight…oh yeah, and gets the support of all those Ricky owners?

    And finally, it doesn’t seem the slightest bit odd that owners who are used to having their horses win at all levels, and at all ages, while having a trainer that is known specifically for taking his time and spotting his horses at exactly the right time end up going to a trainer who has very little success beyond 2F races at GUL and 4.5F races at KEE in the spring…apart from his much ballyhooed success at Ascot, of course (where are those horses again)?

    Just sayin…

    • Thomalene E.

      You nailed it!!!!!   But nobody “gets it…..”

  • Mzebriski

    Not sure what planet Mr. Ritvo lives on, but everyone on the backside knows that Nevin and Dutrow are still an item.  Applaud the thorough investigation though.

    Isn’t is amazing how the owners of those twenty horses had absolutely no problem giving their charges to a woman that didn’t even have her training license yet, when there were so many other great choices like Chad Brown, Todd Pletcher, and Dale Romans…all who employ the serves of wonder vet Steve Allday, just like Ricky did!

    And isn’t it amazing that Rudy Rodriguez, a perfect nice guy, but a jockey who rode 2 horses a month for somebody other than Ricky, suddenly becomes an amazing trainer overnight…oh yeah, and gets the support of all those Ricky owners?

    And finally, it doesn’t seem the slightest bit odd that owners who are used to having their horses win at all levels, and at all ages, while having a trainer that is known specifically for taking his time and spotting his horses at exactly the right time end up going to a trainer who has very little success beyond 2F races at GUL and 4.5F races at KEE in the spring…apart from his much ballyhooed success at Ascot, of course (where are those horses again)?

    Just sayin…

  • SteveG

    Next?  I understand he’s going to invest in Iavarone’s new cutting edge venture…a chicklet farm.  Ever the savvy businessman, Iavarone sold his interest in Big Brown to purchase foundation chicklets from Cadbury Adams for an undisclosed sum

    • horseowner

      I dont know anything about chicklets. I thought it was a gum. If you get in this venture early, and after this farm idea takes off,  you probably could make some money. Be sure to get out.  Don’t be the guy that gives him multiple  millions of dollars next year.

      • LongTimeEconomist

        I thought a chicklet was a baby chicken.

  • SteveG

    Next?  I understand he’s going to invest in Iavarone’s new cutting edge venture…a chicklet farm.  Ever the savvy businessman, Iavarone sold his interest in Big Brown to purchase foundation chicklets from Cadbury Adams for an undisclosed sum

  • Rocingersall

    The Industry needs to be cleaned up.  You need to start somewhere.  Hopefully this is the start of taking out the garbage.

  • Rocingersall

    The Industry needs to be cleaned up.  You need to start somewhere.  Hopefully this is the start of taking out the garbage.

  • RocIngersall

     The “best” ?  uhm ok

  • Elktonstable

    I believe Rick Dutrowe’s punishment is far to harsh and is more a result of politicization than pragmatism. I do not condone letting cheaters off the hook with light punishment either. After reviewing Mr. Dutrowe’s list of offenses (around 72 of them if I remember correctly), nearly all of them with the exception of the butorphenol incident were minor offenses such as late for lasix, no foal papers, bute and lasix overages etc. In all of these previous offenses, punishment was religated and obliged. None of these offenses with exception to the butorphanol demonstrate a pattern of calculated pharmaeutical cheating. His record is more indicative of “seat of the pants” management. Yet many people have implied that Dutrow must have been cheating on a more sinister level throughout his career. The lack of defimitive proof of this makes such accusations motjing more than conjecture. The reality of this situation indicates that if Dutrow couldnt organize his outfit well enough to avoid all the minor infractions he accumulated then it is highly unlikely he would be able to orchestrate asophisticated illicite pharmaceutical cheating conspiracy. Yet public outcry for ra ing drug reform and Dutrowes timing and high profile has made him a scapegoat to appease a blood thirsty public with an exaggerated perception of the drug use problem. His severe punishment is more a reflection of the hostile environment surrounding racing and the opportunity to appease the public by this example. There have been worse offenses committed by others that were dealt with far less harshly if at all.
    Dutrowe accomplished many impressive things during his long career. Usually these things are weighed in and considered when punishment is determined. It is a great tradgedy in my mind that Rick Dutrow is as much of a victim of racing’s poor public image as he is a poster boy for reform.

    • Don Reed

      Elk, bust up this one humgonous paragraph into readable portions.  Thanks.

      • Elktonstable

        Sorry. I enter these posts off of an i-phone and can barely see the sentence I am writing.Typos are rife because the keys are better suited for the needle fingered. Try to slog through it.

        • Don Reed

          Honsty is always a winner.  Thank you.

    • Markskyman

      17 drug violations. High bute, mepvicane, high lasix.

      The only reason for these is in order to run sore horses.

      Not good.

    • Lou Baranello, Former Steward

      Elkton, would you care to enlighten your readers about these worse offenses that were treated less harshly? I’ll bet that you won’t. Some names and places please. I would also like to know when and where you acquired your expertise in what is weighed and determined by a Board Of Stewards when determinig an appropriate punishment. I don’t expect a convincing and credible answer from you.

      • Elktonstable

        Mr Baranello
        I would be happy to tell you but in a private conversation and off the record for you to ascertain for yourself. There are legal ramifications, a fact I am sure you are aware. My past experience of nearly fourty years in observing the rulings of stewards and having some direct experience leads me to draw this logical conclusion.You are free of course to disagree.

        • Elktonstable

          One foot note Mr Baranello in addition to being an experienced horseman, I am also a degreed and certified toxicologist. You may obtain my email address through the Paulick Report consider this permission. I will be happy to discuss this with you.

    • Larry Burnett50

      Public Outcry? Blood thirsty Public? Appease the Public?  I bet Manti Teo’s girl friend was in on it too. 

    • racingfan1955

      Another trainer says that 85% of trainers (TB’s, in racing) cheat.  One down, 85% more to go.  Would that more states, heck even the Jockey Club, would get involved & start making enforcement CONSISTENT.  Maybe Dutrow’s punishment is harsh, maybe not…but it’s high time someone starts noticing.

      • concerned horse owner

        Some trainers out of control and this harsh sentence will hopefully wake up some! Most trainers are not cheating. Winning horses are tested after each race. Horse are tested prior to racing. I suppose the cheaters know how to get around the test measurements?  I never knew that baseball players took Tamoxifen (a drug used to treat breast cancer) to camoflage taking steroids/HGH?

  • Elktonstable

    I believe Rick Dutrowe’s punishment is far to harsh and is more a result of politicization than pragmatism. I do not condone letting cheaters off the hook with light punishment either. After reviewing Mr. Dutrowe’s list of offenses (around 72 of them if I remember correctly), nearly all of them with the exception of the butorphenol incident were minor offenses such as late for lasix, no foal papers, bute and lasix overages etc. In all of these previous offenses, punishment was religated and obliged. None of these offenses with exception to the butorphanol demonstrate a pattern of calculated pharmaeutical cheating. His record is more indicative of “seat of the pants” management. Yet many people have implied that Dutrow must have been cheating on a more sinister level throughout his career. The lack of defimitive proof of this makes such accusations motjing more than conjecture. The reality of this situation indicates that if Dutrow couldnt organize his outfit well enough to avoid all the minor infractions he accumulated then it is highly unlikely he would be able to orchestrate asophisticated illicite pharmaceutical cheating conspiracy. Yet public outcry for ra ing drug reform and Dutrowes timing and high profile has made him a scapegoat to appease a blood thirsty public with an exaggerated perception of the drug use problem. His severe punishment is more a reflection of the hostile environment surrounding racing and the opportunity to appease the public by this example. There have been worse offenses committed by others that were dealt with far less harshly if at all.
    Dutrowe accomplished many impressive things during his long career. Usually these things are weighed in and considered when punishment is determined. It is a great tradgedy in my mind that Rick Dutrow is as much of a victim of racing’s poor public image as he is a poster boy for reform.

  • Sandy M

    Well, let’s see…

    Rick’s dad was a fine horseman and a gentleman. Rick’s brother Tony? Ditto. Rick? Not so much so. I feel bad that Rick’s dad must be rolling in his grave right now.

  • Ben Hogan

    He will accepted with open arms in Montana,and New Mexico as well as Louisiana.They take all the outlaws there.

    • Skip Ean

      More states than those three–maybe he’ll be a star at Beulah in OH.  I’d rather see him banned from racing for five years and have ALL states honor the ban, with none providing a down and dirty loophole for offenders. 

  • Ben Hogan

    He will accepted with open arms in Montana,and New Mexico as well as Louisiana.They take all the outlaws there.

  • Don Reed

    What’s Next For Rich Dutrow?”

     

    (The Paulick Report headline, January 23, 2013)

     

    Glad you asked. Here goes.

     

    He’s been exiled to the island of Elba, Florida
    (along with the annual herd of New York & Californian state income tax-refugees).

     

    Given an honorary toy army by Metternich (Astoria Queens,
    not Austria
    - that’s Frank), he reforms its government, mounts parades (horses never
    tested), & plans out an elaborate reconstruction of the island’s roads &
    port facilities.

     

    And he broods.  Like
    that legendary French Leo of the 19th Century, an island is no compensation for
    his past decades of glory & wealth.

     

    On February 26,
    2013, he & one hundred sworn-to-secrecy acolytes evade the NYRA Navy (sent
    to the island to patrol the waters to enforce his exile) & lands at
    Gulfstream Point, in the Redneck Riviera (East coast version). 

     

    Waiting there for
    him is Mademoiselle Josephine Michelle Nevin.

     

    His former
    followers are elated!  They have been alienated
    by the new Bourbon King (someone from Cornell, not to be confused with the playwright,
    Corneille; also not a referral to the infamous firewater from the Bluegrass State).

     

    The Bourbon Burp has
    done nothing to lower The Royal Takeout (someone had to pay off those Russian from
    Brighton Beach
    to get the hell out of Paris
    & go home).

     

    They join their former
    Emperor & Rich Dutrow’s 100 Days Begin.

     

    It’s a rough
    ending for such a promising fairy tale, I’ll tell you that.  Many of his former associates desert the Bourbon
    to go with The Babe; others know when to call it a day & remain at their Chateaus
    in Saratoga.

     

    The Russians re-form
    in squares in Brighton
    Beach.  This ought to be fun.  H.G. Motion is gang-pressed by American naval
    authorities into playing the part of the Duke of Wellington, on very short
    notice (“It’s a 250 page script, WOT?!).

     

    Dutrow routs his
    foes at the Kentucky Derby; & fights to a draw at Pimlico (in retreat, he
    burns the White House to the ground; Motion switches sides & joins Dutrow).

     

    Then almost
    exactly on the 190th anniversary of Waterloo,
    steroids are found in the drug testing of his soldiers & his entry in the
    Belmont Stakes is disqualified.  Dutrow
    abdicates for the second & final time after his motion for an injunction in
    New York State court fails.

     

    He spent the rest
    of his life on a volcanic rock somewhere in the Atlantic,
    with J.T. Lundy, where they opened up an OTB.

    • Don Reed

      “Then almost
      exactly on the 190th anniversary of Waterloo,
      steroids are found…”

       

      Say, let’s make that the 198th (eighth!) anniversary of Waterloo (2013 minus
      1815). 

  • Don Reed

    What’s Next For Rich Dutrow?”

     

    (The Paulick Report headline, January 23, 2013)

     

    Glad you asked. Here goes.

     

    He’s been exiled to the island of Elba, Florida
    (along with the annual herd of New York & Californian state income tax-refugees).

     

    Given an honorary toy army by Metternich (Astoria Queens,
    not Austria
    - that’s Frank), he reforms its government, mounts parades (horses never
    tested), & plans out an elaborate reconstruction of the island’s roads &
    port facilities.

     

    And he broods.  Like
    that legendary French Leo of the 19th Century, an island is no compensation for
    his past decades of glory & wealth.

     

    On February 26,
    2013, he & one hundred sworn-to-secrecy acolytes evade the NYRA Navy (sent
    to the island to patrol the waters to enforce his exile) & lands at
    Gulfstream Point, in the Redneck Riviera (East coast version). 

     

    Waiting there for
    him is Mademoiselle Josephine Michelle Nevin.

     

    His former
    followers are elated!  They have been alienated
    by the new Bourbon King (someone from Cornell, not to be confused with the playwright,
    Corneille; also not a referral to the infamous firewater from the Bluegrass State).

     

    The Bourbon Burp has
    done nothing to lower The Royal Takeout (someone had to pay off those Russian from
    Brighton Beach
    to get the hell out of Paris
    & go home).

     

    They join their former
    Emperor & Rich Dutrow’s 100 Days Begin.

     

    It’s a rough
    ending for such a promising fairy tale, I’ll tell you that.  Many of his former associates desert the Bourbon
    to go with The Babe; others know when to call it a day & remain at their Chateaus
    in Saratoga.

     

    The Russians re-form
    in squares in Brighton
    Beach.  This ought to be fun.  H.G. Motion is gang-pressed by American naval
    authorities into playing the part of the Duke of Wellington, on very short
    notice (“It’s a 250 page script, WOT?!).

     

    Dutrow routs his
    foes at the Kentucky Derby; & fights to a draw at Pimlico (in retreat, he
    burns the White House to the ground; Motion switches sides & joins Dutrow).

     

    Then almost
    exactly on the 190th anniversary of Waterloo,
    steroids are found in the drug testing of his soldiers & his entry in the
    Belmont Stakes is disqualified.  Dutrow
    abdicates for the second & final time after his motion for an injunction in
    New York State court fails.

     

    He spent the rest
    of his life on a volcanic rock somewhere in the Atlantic,
    with J.T. Lundy, where they opened up an OTB.

  • Don Reed

    T, if you would refrain from posing as the apostle of sanity, some of your better points would be convincing in their own right.

  • Don Reed

    “Then almost
    exactly on the 190th anniversary of Waterloo,
    steroids are found…”

     

    Say, let’s make that the 198th (eighth!) anniversary of Waterloo (2013 minus
    1815). 

  • Don Reed

    Elk, bust up this one humgonous paragraph into readable portions.  Thanks.

  • Don Reed

    Yeah, he cared so much for the people working for them that he cleaned up his act, didn’t get suspended, and his workers still have their jobs.

  • Don Reed

    I think Rich is more like Leona Helmsley (God rest her little tax-cheatin’, ex-felonious soul).  Neither of them have been photographed in a kitchen (where she was cooking the books).

  • Randal lawton

    hay,theres vets behind,his dopeing,he could not walk around,with tubes or syringes,some one did it for him&he’s no chemist,behind him is a chemist

  • Randal lawton

    hay,theres vets behind,his dopeing,he could not walk around,with tubes or syringes,some one did it for him&he’s no chemist,behind him is a chemist

  • Randallawton

    not broken,cause it’s been happening,since it could happen;so guess it was fine before?their just implementing,rulings that should have been in place,long ago.but you know,was’nt long ago,did’nt have the ability to test for alot of the dopeing=blackbox,epo,lots more also,&they’ll need to keep up,with the testing,chemist’s will or are already figureing a way around;what their testing for!going forward the right way;I Know!!!

  • Markskyman

    17 drug violations. High bute, mepvicane, high lasix.

    The only reason for these is in order to run sore horses.

    Not good.

  • horseowner

    Winning is important!  But owners do not want to be associated with vanned off horses, jockey injuries,cheating  or drugs!!!  It is very embarrassing! Most owners tend to be proud of their horses and trainers, and enjoy the sport. I am more against the owners that claim and run the horse every 4 to 5 days until  the horse breaks down. They got great decent winning percentages but apparently don’t care about the safety of the horses and jockeys.

  • horseowner

    Are you sure there are no drugs in Football?   

  • horseowner

    I dont know anything about chicklets. I thought it was a gum. If you get in this venture early, and after this farm idea takes off,  you probably could make some money. Be sure to get out.  Don’t be the guy that gives him multiple  millions of dollars next year.

  • horseowner

    The bottom line for Rick Dutrow was that he was not liked by the racing authorities. He came across as arrogant. He is a great trainer. Yes , he got caught cheating and that should have humbled him! It apparently didn’t, now he got a ten year suspension. I believe he is unable to hang out at any barns, so he would not be able to operate using his trainer/girlfriend. At this point, he will have to make a living doing something else x l0 years. There are a few other great trainers that got caught juicing and also won the derby but they seem to be liked and do not come across as arrogant.

  • Ohio Bred Girl

    What’s next? Who cares?

  • Ohio Bred Girl

    What’s next? Who cares?

  • Greg G

    I was looking at his list of violations. https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B265yMMHh7KJMWJjYTFhOGQtYzlkNC00MjM1LWFmMWUtYTAwMzE1ZTI1NWEz/edit?hl=en_US&pli=1
     Here are some of the highlights:
     Failure to report a conviction on an application, then signing that application.  This is usually considered perjury.
     Being an aggressor in a confrontation at a race track.
     Passing Marijuana to to others on the backside (I am not sure of the details, but is that code for dealing?  I don’t know)
    Numerous marijuana violations.  Were these turned over to the local police? hmm….
     Numerous NSF checks, and failure to make good on them.
     Allegedly took part in a scheme to defraud others involving stolen checks, forgeries, etc.
     Attempting to provide a false urine sample by means of an apparatus concealed upon his person.  In my opinion this violation should be enough to remove him forever.  It is a blatant attempt to cheat the public of their right to a fair shot when handicapping and making wagers on the outcome of the said race.
     I counted 20 violations of drugs.  Give or take one or two.
     In my opinion the types of violations listed above, make him a person lacking of character. I believe the legal term is “Moral Turpitude.” 
    Some call him a “scapegoat”, some say he is getting a raw deal, I say Hooray for NYRA taking a shot across the bow and removing this man from their business.  I can only hope that other race tracks will uphold the ban.

    • Thomalene E.

      Spot on…. with one exception…. please note NYRA did NOTHING to discourage this guy, or cutail his exploits, until FORCED to by the NYSR&WB….. NYRA could have denied him stalls and denied his entries whenever they wished…. so basically they were complicit.  No kudos for NYRA…..

      • Greg G

        Thank you for clearing that up.

    • Mzebriski

      NYRA should be given a 10yr suspension just like Dutrow…this is the organization that not only condoned his activities, but has promoted the biggest scourge on the racing industry by fostering the “supertrainer.”  Too few horsemen controlling too many horses…Pletcher, Dutrow, Brown, Mott, and Jacobson…how can anyone compete…even NFL, MLB, NBA, and NHL coaches have roster limits!  You want to know why field sizes suck and handle is not growing coincidentally with the increase in purses?  Supertrainers.

      NYRA is a joke.  PJ Campo already cheapened the quality of his horse population by allowing supertrainers to monopolize all the quality stock, forcing small trainers into bottom claimers and NY beds.  $7500 claimers at NYRA tracks?  Really PJ?  And now, Albany wants to divert funds to equine health and research because of a few breakdowns!  How about not letting Jacobson train horses in NY that don’t fit their conditions.  Two charges entered in $5K claimers at Laurel this week that have been working in NY…why?  Those horses aren’t even eligible to race there because they are cheaper stock.  Now NYRA will be taking its orders from a “civilian” Board who doesn’t understand the sport or the product and meets every two months to discuss “issues.”

  • Greg G

    I was looking at his list of violations. https://docs.google.com/file/d
     Here are some of the highlights:
     Failure to report a conviction on an application, then signing that application.  This is usually considered perjury.
     Being an aggressor in a confrontation at a race track.
     Passing Marijuana to to others on the backside (I am not sure of the details, but is that code for dealing?  I don’t know)
    Numerous marijuana violations.  Were these turned over to the local police? hmm….
     Numerous NSF checks, and failure to make good on them.
     Allegedly took part in a scheme to defraud others involving stolen checks, forgeries, etc.
     Attempting to provide a false urine sample by means of an apparatus concealed upon his person.  In my opinion this violation should be enough to remove him forever.  It is a blatant attempt to cheat the public of their right to a fair shot when handicapping and making wagers on the outcome of the said race.
     I counted 20 violations of drugs.  Give or take one or two.
     In my opinion the types of violations listed above, make him a person lacking of character. I believe the legal term is “Moral Turpitude.” 
    Some call him a “scapegoat”, some say he is getting a raw deal, I say Hooray for NYRA taking a shot across the bow and removing this man from their business.  I can only hope that other race tracks will uphold the ban.

  • Roisin

    What if Rick talks ??

  • Roisin

    So cheating is a way of life ! What a shame.

  • tfly

    Great article Susan.  Why not take your evidence to the Att. Gen.’s office?

  • Roisin

    And Lance Armstrong tested negative over his years of competition !!

  • Elktonstable

    Sorry. I enter these posts off of an i-phone and can barely see the sentence I am writing.Typos are rife because the keys are better suited for the needle fingered. Try to slog through it.

  • Skip Ean

    More states than those three–maybe he’ll be a star at Beulah in OH.  I’d rather see him banned from racing for five years and have ALL states honor the ban, with none providing a down and dirty loophole for offenders. 

  • Aaws

    myguy

  • Aaws

    myguy

  • Realestate

    I don’t think they should have the right to tell his girlfriend, friends, past assistants, clients or anyone that they cannot talk to the man about horses, training horses or anythng else. This is a country of free speech and they have no right to take that away from him.

  • Realestate

    I don’t think they should have the right to tell his girlfriend, friends, past assistants, clients or anyone that they cannot talk to the man about horses, training horses or anythng else. This is a country of free speech and they have no right to take that away from him.

  • Thomalene E.

    You nailed it!!!!!   But nobody “gets it…..”

  • Thomalene E.

    Spot on…. with one exception…. please note NYRA did NOTHING to discourage this guy, or cutail his exploits, until FORCED to by the NYSR&WB….. NYRA could have denied him stalls and denied his entries whenever they wished…. so basically they were complicit.  No kudos for NYRA…..

  • Greg G

    Thank you for clearing that up.

  • Skip Ean

    Do you mean implicate others, squeal on them?  That would be good for racing but also typical behavior of a rat on a sinking ship.  I think the biggies in racing all stick up for one another and are silent on ethics, horses to slaughter, drugging, etc., because they all have to play with one another and don’t want their income lessened by internal feuds.  Even the highly respected trainers who don’t cheat won’t speak out against the Dutrows in racing because it violates the brotherhood and risks losing lucrative industry connections.

  • Bymany

    Really??  She passed her trainer’s test LAST WEEK and THIS WEEK she has 20 horses worthy of stalls at Gulfstream.  Watch out for those Big Foots piloting UFOs.

  • LongTimeEconomist

    I thought a chicklet was a baby chicken.

  • Bookie Buster

     However a big difference though the horses can not say “no” to those jabs as those people certainly could have…

  • Don Reed

    Honsty is always a winner.  Thank you.

  • Don Reed

    Bad idea.  Interrogators would be driven crazy hearing the word “Babe” in every other senence.

  • http://www.facebook.com/SusanKayne Susan Kayne

    I have tfly. Thankfully, the AGs IS interested in equine welfare. It is in the works. And — thank you very much for taking time to read and comment. Much appreciated.

  • Lou Baranello, Former Steward

    Elkton, would you care to enlighten your readers about these worse offenses that were treated less harshly? I’ll bet that you won’t. Some names and places please. I would also like to know when and where you acquired your expertise in what is weighed and determined by a Board Of Stewards when determinig an appropriate punishment. I don’t expect a convincing and credible answer from you.

  • forestwildcat

     If he comes here i’ll go to work for him

  • Roisin

    Thank you for your excellent analysis. I know a very good trainer who has worked with some of our horses that had been with a high profile trainer.

    The horses improved immensely with the “new” trainer but when I eluded to that fact with a hint of criticism I met with “the code of silence”!

  • Roisin

    Thank you so much for doing this. I hope it will be the catalyst for desperately needed changes.

  • Elktonstable

    Mr Baranello
    I would be happy to tell you but in a private conversation and off the record for you to ascertain for yourself. There are legal ramifications, a fact I am sure you are aware. My past experience of nearly fourty years in observing the rulings of stewards and having some direct experience leads me to draw this logical conclusion.You are free of course to disagree.

  • Mzebriski

    Paulick censors any factual post that he or Barry Irwin don’t necessarily agree with…

    • RayPaulick

      Sure…like the one you just posted? 

  • Mzebriski

    Paulick censors any factual post that he or Barry Irwin don’t necessarily agree with…

  • RayPaulick

    Sure…like the one you just posted? 

  • Mzebriski

    NYRA should be given a 10yr suspension just like Dutrow…this is the organization that not only condoned his activities, but has promoted the biggest scourge on the racing industry by fostering the “supertrainer.”  Too few horsemen controlling too many horses…Pletcher, Dutrow, Brown, Mott, and Jacobson…how can anyone compete…even NFL, MLB, NBA, and NHL coaches have roster limits!  You want to know why field sizes suck and handle is not growing coincidentally with the increase in purses?  Supertrainers.

    NYRA is a joke.  PJ Campo already cheapened the quality of his horse population by allowing supertrainers to monopolize all the quality stock, forcing small trainers into bottom claimers and NY beds.  $7500 claimers at NYRA tracks?  Really PJ?  And now, Albany wants to divert funds to equine health and research because of a few breakdowns!  How about not letting Jacobson train horses in NY that don’t fit their conditions.  Two charges entered in $5K claimers at Laurel this week that have been working in NY…why?  Those horses aren’t even eligible to race there because they are cheaper stock.  Now NYRA will be taking its orders from a “civilian” Board who doesn’t understand the sport or the product and meets every two months to discuss “issues.”

  • Elktonstable

    One foot note Mr Baranello in addition to being an experienced horseman, I am also a degreed and certified toxicologist. You may obtain my email address through the Paulick Report consider this permission. I will be happy to discuss this with you.

  • Black Helen

     DIFFERENCE IS HUMANS CAN “CHOOSE” TO USE DRUGS, HORSES HAVE NO CHOICE WHEN THEY ARE DRUGGED.
    THAT IN MY OPINION CONSTITUTES ABUSE AND I ADORE HORSE RACING!!!

     HOW DO YOU THINK THE GENERAL PUBLIC VIEWS OUR SPORT?? CROOKED, CROOKED, CROOKED.

  • Black Helen

     Cheating may not be good for he sport, but it certainly is good for the “Super Trainers”
    I’ll take a Mott or Allen Jerkens over a super trainer any day of the week.
     Why are the Pletchers, Assmussen, Brown etc, called super trainers?, because they have the “super juice”

  • Black Helen

     Loved Leona!! At least she knew how many napkins were on the tables… Do you really think these super trainers with hundreds of horses ever run THEIR hands down a horses legs??

  • Black Helen

     WHEN IS SOMEBODY GOING TO INVESTIGATE DR ALLDAY??
    BIGGEST DOPER AROUND, VET TO THE STARS.
    HOW MANY HORSES HAS THIS GUY RUINED OR KILLED TO FATTEN HIS WALLET??

  • Larry Burnett50

    Public Outcry? Blood thirsty Public? Appease the Public?  I bet Manti Teo’s girl friend was in on it too. 

  • Thomalene E.

    I did also read the link….. it will be very interesting in the AG really does get involved…… REAL intersting…..although I have little faith they will do so….

  • racingfan1955

    Another trainer says that 85% of trainers (TB’s, in racing) cheat.  One down, 85% more to go.  Would that more states, heck even the Jockey Club, would get involved & start making enforcement CONSISTENT.  Maybe Dutrow’s punishment is harsh, maybe not…but it’s high time someone starts noticing.

  • PomDeTerre

    he already WAS proven guilty.  open up your mind and learn to read.  nevin is nothing more than a storefron operation for dutrow’s armchair training.  every owner is going to give a 3 day licensed trainer their stakes horses- right.  she didn’t even have the balls to show her face in the winner’s circle when teaks north won the sunshine turf. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/savestallions1 Mary Adkins-Matthews

    If people think he cares .. he doesn’t.. he is still laughing. He will still continue to work and just keep all of his horses in the assistant trainers names. Only the owners of the horses can send a message to him that will be heard. He could care less about the public 

  • http://www.facebook.com/savestallions1 Mary Adkins-Matthews

    If people think he cares .. he doesn’t.. he is still laughing. He will still continue to work and just keep all of his horses in the assistant trainers names. Only the owners of the horses can send a message to him that will be heard. He could care less about the public 

  • http://Bellwether4u.com James Staples

    hes hung out in NYC so you better believe he keeps that TRAP SHUT!!!…ty…

  • Guest

    How many newly licensed trainers get 20 stalls at Gulfstream?  Smells bad to me.

  • Guest

    How many newly licensed trainers get 20 stalls at Gulfstream?  Smells bad to me.

  • Nicole

    I got a question it has nothing to do with Rick dutrow, personally he screwed himself. But lets say he calls up an old owner or trainer who has his horses now, would they be penalized for talking to him, or lets say he is still good friends with them, does that mean the can have no contact what so ever?

  • Nicole

    I got a question it has nothing to do with Rick dutrow, personally he screwed himself. But lets say he calls up an old owner or trainer who has his horses now, would they be penalized for talking to him, or lets say he is still good friends with them, does that mean the can have no contact what so ever?

  • concerned horse owner

    Out of the 2l horses that broke down last winter on the Aqueduct inner track, not one was trained by Dutrow? . Supposedly he has no break downs that led to fatalities over the past 6 years?….I am not trying to stick up  for him….but lets take a better look at the trainers that are running every 3 to 5  days, even with 2 year olds. 

  • concerned horse owner

    Out of the 2l horses that broke down last winter on the Aqueduct inner track, not one was trained by Dutrow? . Supposedly he has no break downs that led to fatalities over the past 6 years?….I am not trying to stick up  for him….but lets take a better look at the trainers that are running every 3 to 5  days, even with 2 year olds. 

  • concerned horse owner

    There are much more drugs used in Baseball , Football, cycling. American way of life!  Your superbowls, world series, home run records, cy young records, tours de France all BS.
    MOST HORSES ARE NOT DRUGGED with Perfomance enhancers.

  • concerned horse owner

    Some trainers out of control and this harsh sentence will hopefully wake up some! Most trainers are not cheating. Winning horses are tested after each race. Horse are tested prior to racing. I suppose the cheaters know how to get around the test measurements?  I never knew that baseball players took Tamoxifen (a drug used to treat breast cancer) to camoflage taking steroids/HGH?

  • Tim

    He had tons of chances to clean up and just be nice. Great trainer but not the best people skills. All he had to do was be nice.

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