Parx Racing calls Guerrero ‘potential threat,’ will not lift ban

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Juan Carlos Guerrero Juan Carlos Guerrero

Despite criminal charges being dropped against him in an alleged “indecent assault” on a female racetrack employee, the 10-year ban of leading trainer Juan Carlos Guerrero from Parx Racing will not be lifted, according to Frank McDonnell, assistant general counsel for the Bensalem, Pa., racetrack and casino.

“The information we have indicates that Mr. Guerrero is a potential threat to all the women of our backstretch and we will not lift our Ejection of him,” McDonnell said in an email to the Paulick Report. “We believe the District Attorney used improper judgment and reasoning in not presenting the case to a jury, particularly since Mr. Guerrero admitted his conduct to the Bensalem police.”

The alleged incident took place Nov. 16. Parx Racing officials banned Guerrero after the Bensalem Township Police, following an investigation, filed a misdemeanor assault charge against the trainer a month later. The Parx racing office stopped taking entries from Guerrero, effective Dec. 27, but many of the horses he trained have been transferred to the barn of his brother, J. Guadalupe Guerrero. Juan Carlos Guerrero was given stalls at Aqueduct, where he has been permitted to race, according to Daily Racing Form.

On Thursday, the Bucks County district attorney dropped the misdemeanor charge against Guerrero, saying the alleged actions by the married father of two against an unnamed 23-year-old woman did not constitute a criminal act. Guerrero allegedly made an unwelcome advance to the woman, pushing her into an office, kissing her on the lips and then touching her buttocks as she pushed him away.

According to published reports, an appeal of the private property exclusion is scheduled to be heard by the Pennsylvania Horse Racing Commission on Jan. 17 in Harrisburg, Pa.

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  • BuckyinKentucky

    Mike Ballezzi??? Mike??? Ballezzi???? You’re uncharacteristically absent here in defending your member aren’t you?
    Something is really fishy here??

    When Ballezzi doesnt take to the soapbox or when Sal DeBunda keeps quiet given they both have the opportunity to get press then something doesnt quite add up.

    How about giving the participants in this alleged incident a polygraph and lets see who fails??

    Bad vibes about this one….Ray, don’t let this fade away..dig deep on this one we may have the upcoming story of the year in the making!

    Good to see the PATHA stepping up in defense of it’s membership!

    • watchinya

      ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh bucky u got a whole in one u have to be one of the elite at parx to get representation  but then how can u represent something you made happen hmmmmmmmmmmm

      • heres

        oh and what memberships there are only sheep being led by wolves——-

  • BuckyinKentucky

    Mike Ballezzi??? Mike??? Ballezzi???? You’re uncharacteristically absent here in defending your member aren’t you?
    Something is really fishy here??

    When Ballezzi doesnt take to the soapbox or when Sal DeBunda keeps quiet given they both have the opportunity to get press then something doesnt quite add up.

    How about giving the participants in this alleged incident a polygraph and lets see who fails??

    Bad vibes about this one….Ray, don’t let this fade away..dig deep on this one we may have the upcoming story of the year in the making!

    Good to see the PATHA stepping up in defense of it’s membership!

  • Greg Jones

    Bravo!  Wish the same people were in New York to do the same to Dutrow…

    • Al Copone

      You must just be another loser , tring to get a winner out so someone else can beat you !!

  • Greg Jones

    Bravo!  Wish the same people were in New York to do the same to Dutrow…

  • Bushwick

    IMAHO if he was winning at say 14% I dont think we would be reading this story.

    • RayPaulick

      At least Parx is not taking a page out of the Penn State playbook and ignoring what they apparently think is a serious issue.

    • McGov

      You’re right, we wouldn’t because this is the issue.  Lets see how things go in NY for Mr. G.

      • Al Capone

        3 starts 1 second  1 third the other horse had a bad break as the favorite and got claimed. The second was in a stake.

        • guest

          Big deal.  Have you noticed that since he has been gone none of the horses are winning like they use to.  I guess his brother can’t have the magic potion.

  • Bushwick

    IMAHO if he was winning at say 14% I dont think we would be reading this story.

  • RayPaulick

    At least Parx is not taking a page out of the Penn State playbook and ignoring what they apparently think is a serious issue.

  • Not Shocked

    QUOTE OF THE YEAR FOR 2012- What could possibly top this ?

    “A potential threat to all the women of our backstretch…”

    • Sinking Ship

      You’re right – NOTHING can top this! Parx has hit a NEW LOW!!

    • Merasmag

      as a woman i am deeply offended, embarrassed and ROTFLMAO

    • Al Copone

      They should take a vote from all the women and see what happens since they wanna speak for all the women without asking them….

      • Misinquisitivie

        That’s a great idea ! Because I work back there and I am a woman whos known Carlos for many years and the whole thing is a joke! There isn’t 1 woman who thinks this is right by any means what they r doing to him ! So if u ask me 100% of the women would sign a petition saying they do not nor have not felt threatened by him ! He is a great guy at the peak of his career and all is a bunch of bs and jealousy !!! Can’t they just leave him alone ???

        • pumkineater

          unfortunately it is the nature of the BEASTS (plurel) to consume each other. This was a ploy from the “bigger” fish that couldnt get in on the action to eliminate him in any possible way!

  • Not Shocked

    QUOTE OF THE YEAR FOR 2012- What could possibly top this ?

    “A potential threat to all the women of our backstretch…”

  • Sinking Ship

    Why doesn’t Ray do some digging into the conduct and finances of the Pa. Horsemen’s Association, of which Ballezzi and DeBunda are officers?

    • Pjleft

      If you’re interested in their finances, go to Guidestar.com and set up a free account. This will give you access to the PTHA’s latest IRS tax form 990.

      • Sinking Ship

        It’s not a non-profit, and not listed.

        • Pjleft

          Sure it is. I found the Form 990 for 2009, the last year they filed one. (2010 maybe overdue). If you search “PA Thoroughbred Hosemens Associationb” , you should find. All non profits are required by IRS regs to file and make public their tax returns.

          • Pjleft

            PA THOROUGBRED HORSEMENS ASSOC INC
            just checked again, the above is the official name of the organization. 990′s are available for 2009, 2008, & 2007.

  • Sinking Ship

    Why doesn’t Ray do some digging into the conduct and finances of the Pa. Horsemen’s Association, of which Ballezzi and DeBunda are officers?

  • Sinking Ship

    You’re right – NOTHING can top this! Parx has hit a NEW LOW!!

  • Merasmag

    as a woman i am deeply offended, embarrassed and ROTFLMAO

  • Elktonstable

    I am not surprised at this outcome and do not believe it is necessarily a wrong action by Parx.  Apparently (and I have no evidence of this other than rumor) there is a history of misconduct of a similar fashion. Combine this with other negatives surrounding this case and I think Parx is taking appropriate measures. Bear in mind that Mr Gill has never satisfactorily been indicted for taking inappropriate steps in the running of his horses. He has never the less been banned and as of yet his attorneys have not been able to reverse the ban. This case has similarities. At face value or in terms of its constiutionality, one might consider the action taken by Parx to be unfair, but I do think it is appropriate and in the best interests of racing and everyone involved. This is unfortunate but it is a fact of life on the race track.  This is not about one person, it is about the whole industry and alll of us involved with it. I support Parx’s action.

    • Sinking Ship

      You are in the minority, my friend.

      • Merasmag

        bringing up michael gill???

        im outtie cuz that is 2 dam laughable

        where due u people cum from?

    • guest

      I totally agree with you. Guerrero has kids, how would he like it if it was done to one of them.  As a woman I feel what was done was justified.  Just because you are the leading trainer doesn’t give you the right to do what you want. 

  • Elktonstable

    I am not surprised at this outcome and do not believe it is necessarily a wrong action by Parx.  Apparently (and I have no evidence of this other than rumor) there is a history of misconduct of a similar fashion. Combine this with other negatives surrounding this case and I think Parx is taking appropriate measures. Bear in mind that Mr Gill has never satisfactorily been indicted for taking inappropriate steps in the running of his horses. He has never the less been banned and as of yet his attorneys have not been able to reverse the ban. This case has similarities. At face value or in terms of its constiutionality, one might consider the action taken by Parx to be unfair, but I do think it is appropriate and in the best interests of racing and everyone involved. This is unfortunate but it is a fact of life on the race track.  This is not about one person, it is about the whole industry and alll of us involved with it. I support Parx’s action.

  • Pjleft

    If you’re interested in their finances, go to Guidestar.com and set up a free account. This will give you access to the PTHA’s latest IRS tax form 990.

  • Sinking Ship

    You are in the minority, my friend.

  • Merasmag

    bringing up michael gill???

    im outtie cuz that is 2 dam laughable

    where due u people cum from?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=598423127 Patricia C. Campbell Cianflone

    Apparently the young lady in question may be related to Mike Ballezzi that’s #1 – #2 she happened to be wearing a wire? can you say.. set up? when you are on top people don’t like it. I worked in and around Carlos Guerrero’s barn for over 9 months in the capacity of an equine dental assistant. He was always very respectful and a gentleman. He would even scold his employees if they used bad language around me as he knew that I am a devout Christian. He had a Carlos Guerrero Racing Stables jacket made as a Christmas present for my father (who followed him with great interest before he was “big”). I had to ASK Carlos for a hug as a thank you! Even then he hugged very awkwardly and there was nothing sexual about it. I think this is all nonsense and there are many many women I know on the backstretch at Parx today that share my view. All charges have been dropped. Let Mr. Guerrero get back to winning and get on with your lives. 

    • Wingtips

      That’s great stuff.  Were you on the O.J. jury?

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=598423127 Patricia C. Campbell Cianflone

        They are known facts. AND I do not hide behind some lame user name.. just sayin’..

        • Wingtips

          You said the victim was apparently wearing a wire.  Now it is a known fact?

          Are you saying that the PA Horseman’s Association colluded with Parx management in an elaborate sting that they knew would subsequently involve the police department, the DA’s office, and subsequent bad publicity in order to railroad a trainer out of his stalls? 

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=598423127 Patricia C. Campbell Cianflone

            This is the last I will comment because I actually DO have a life. “Wingtips” you can conclude / infer what your imagination dreams up. Facts are facts. For hundreds of years, people believed the world was flat – that did not make it true. 
            Truth is truth no matter what one “believes”. 
            As for me, I will be praying for all involved and that all details will be brought out into the light for careful examination for all to see. 

          • Wingtips

            Just a yes or no…was there a conspiracy?

          • Jennieo@aol.com

            Yes that exactly whats she’s saying ! Cause it’s true! I’m there ur not!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=598423127 Patricia C. Campbell Cianflone

    Apparently the young lady in question may be related to Mike Ballezzi that’s #1 – #2 she happened to be wearing a wire? can you say.. set up? when you are on top people don’t like it. I worked in and around Carlos Guerrero’s barn for over 9 months in the capacity of an equine dental assistant. He was always very respectful and a gentleman. He would even scold his employees if they used bad language around me as he knew that I am a devout Christian. He had a Carlos Guerrero Racing Stables jacket made as a Christmas present for my father (who followed him with great interest before he was “big”). I had to ASK Carlos for a hug as a thank you! Even then he hugged very awkwardly and there was nothing sexual about it. I think this is all nonsense and there are many many women I know on the backstretch at Parx today that share my view. All charges have been dropped. Let Mr. Guerrero get back to winning and get on with your lives.

  • Al Copone

    You must just be another loser , tring to get a winner out so someone else can beat you !!

  • Wingtips

    That’s great stuff.  Were you on the O.J. jury?

  • McGov

    You’re right, we wouldn’t because this is the issue.  Lets see how things go in NY for Mr. G.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=598423127 Patricia C. Campbell Cianflone

    They are known facts. AND I do not hide behind some lame user name.. just sayin’..

  • Al Copone

    They should take a vote from all the women and see what happens since they wanna speak for all the women without asking them….

  • Al Copone

    You should be named Dicktips

  • Al Copone

    Patricia C. Campbell Cianflone Your a great friend to his barn and i respect you for sticking with what you believe, and im happy you make statements based on facts !!

  • Wingtips

    You said the victim was apparently wearing a wire.  Now it is a known fact?

    Are you saying that the PA Horseman’s Association colluded with Parx management in an elaborate sting that they knew would subsequently involve the police department, the DA’s office, and subsequent bad publicity in order to railroad a trainer out of his stalls?

  • Wingtips

    You should be named ScareFace

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=598423127 Patricia C. Campbell Cianflone

    This is the last I will comment because I actually DO have a life. “Wingtips” you can conclude / infer what your imagination dreams up. Facts are facts. For hundreds of years, people believed the world was flat – that did not make it true. 
    Truth is truth no matter what one “believes”. 
    As for me, I will be praying for all involved and that all details will be brought out into the light for careful examination for all to see.

  • equine

    Yet, PARX is taking entries of an owner who they banned last week for sending a PARX TB to a slaughter auction, circumventing their own policy by allowing the horses to be transferred into the son’s name.

    Where’s the integrity and credibility here? PARX and the entire racing industry gained lots of valuable PR with their TB retirement program and the public announcement of the ban of the individual violating their antislaughter policy. Can Paulick Report check into this whitewash for the public?

    • Wingtips

      You’re right.  Paul Labe Sr won an allowance today at Parx.  Maybe entry was taken before his supposed ban?  Anyway, I’m sure Paul Labe Jr will be “inheriting” a few PA breds shortly.   

      Does anyone have confirmation of an offical ban?

      http://www.facebook.com/EquineAdvocacy/posts/284846088229747

      • McGov

        It’s spelled “official”  Wingtips…sorry, couldn’t resist.

        • Wingtips

          Roger!

    • Sinking Ship

      This is true. Story I heard was that the horse, Sweet Daydreams, was taken to New Holland with a fractured shoulder, which makes this whole situation even more heinous. However, she was rescued after being bought for $350 by a killer buyer. Guess Labe would rather get the money for her rather than put her down or try to rehab her on his own farm.

  • equine

    Yet, PARX is taking entries of an owner who they banned last week for sending a PARX TB to a slaughter auction, circumventing their own policy by allowing the horses to be transferred into the son’s name.

    Where’s the integrity and credibility here? PARX and the entire racing industry gained lots of valuable PR with their TB retirement program and the public announcement of the ban of the individual violating their antislaughter policy. Can Paulick Report check into this whitewash for the public?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=598423127 Patricia C. Campbell Cianflone

    Thank you.

  • Wingtips

    You’re right.  Paul Labe Sr won an allowance today at Parx.  Maybe entry was taken before his supposed ban?  Anyway, I’m sure Paul Labe Jr will be “inheriting” a few PA breds shortly.   

    Does anyone have confirmation of an offical ban?

    http://www.facebook.com/Equine

  • Wingtips

    Just a yes or no…was there a conspiracy?

  • Al Copone

    This name fits this case real well, maybe you should look up the Al Copone case and see how they got him

  • Wingtips

    It’s spelled Capone.  Look it up.

  • Al Capone

    Wow your so smart !!!

  • Sinking Ship

    It’s not a non-profit, and not listed.

  • Wingtips

    It’s spelled you’re, Al.

  • http://www.facebook.com/sheldon.glass Sheldon Glass

    The potential threat here is to people who bet Parx with their outrageous takeouts.

  • http://www.facebook.com/sheldon.glass Sheldon Glass

    The potential threat here is to people who bet Parx with their outrageous takeouts.

  • Al Capone

    You should be a school teacher !! I wish i would be blessed to meet you in person one day , so i can learn so much!!!

  • dh

    Didn’t Philly Park do the samething to John McCaslin and Jane Vayders a few years ago? They let them race even though they have collected positive tests.  When they have 6 or 7 bad tests they drop the hammer (this of course is kept a secret from other trainers and the betting public). I believe Penn National did the same thing to Harry Thompson and Charlest Town did it to Julio Cartegna. Anybody remember this better than I do?

    • Merasmag

      no…u r duein fine…

    • Wingtips

      Jayne went for good because she was the trainer of record when she and John were partners.  John never left.  John has full backstretch access, fully trains his stable every morning and saddles every one in the afternoon.  He lost a couple owners over the last couple years (E&G Stable is not racing right now; William Hopkins went with Guerrero after he got hot).  Ed Auwarter is McCaslin’s beard in the program.  Ed’s not even at the races in the afternoon.  If you see a horse at Parx owned by Maltese Cross, Par 3 Stable, or Chick Ridge, it’s 100% trained by John.  All the horsemen at Parx know this deal; it’s not something hidden.        

      • dh

        thanks wingtips, I notice McCaslin was not a trainer of record from 2004 til 2011 when he was credited for 3 starts (equibase stats). I can’t believe he is allowed on the track like nothing ever happened and has a program trainer(auwarter) and EVERYONE knows the deal. I suspect Guerrero will get some ridiculous sentence and will train under another name or move his stock to PENN,CT, MTR, or LAUREL since these tracks don’t seem to test anymore. Is it any wonder no one takes this great game seriously except the fools like me who are in it for a living? ” were you on the OJ jury” was a classic!

      • pumkineater

        amazing Jane takes the fall ,John has a paper trainer,and I wonder if he is still drinkin and driving …….and gets away with murder…..

  • dh

    Didn’t Philly Park do the samething to John McCaslin and Jane Vayders a few years ago? They let them race even though they have collected positive tests.  When they have 6 or 7 bad tests they drop the hammer (this of course is kept a secret from other trainers and the betting public). I believe Penn National did the same thing to Harry Thompson and Charlest Town did it to Julio Cartegna. Anybody remember this better than I do?

  • Al Capone

    3 starts 1 second  1 third the other horse had a bad break as the favorite and got claimed. The second was in a stake.

  • Merasmag

    no…u r duein fine…

  • McGov

    It’s spelled “official”  Wingtips…sorry, couldn’t resist.

  • Sinking Ship

    This is true. Story I heard was that the horse, Sweet Daydreams, was taken to New Holland with a fractured shoulder, which makes this whole situation even more heinous. However, she was rescued after being bought for $350 by a killer buyer. Guess Labe would rather get the money for her rather than put her down or try to rehab her on his own farm.

  • Wingtips

    Roger!

  • Wingtips

    Jayne went for good because she was the trainer of record when she and John were partners.  John never left.  John has full backstretch access, fully trains his stable every morning and saddles every one in the afternoon.  He lost a couple owners over the last couple years (E&G Stable is not racing right now; William Hopkins went with Guerrero after he got hot).  Ed Auwarter is McCaslin’s beard in the program.  Ed’s not even at the races in the afternoon.  If you see a horse at Parx owned by Maltese Cross, Par 3 Stable, or Chick Ridge, it’s 100% trained by John.  All the horsemen at Parx know this deal; it’s not something hidden.

  • dh

    thanks wingtips, I notice McCaslin was not a trainer of record from 2004 til 2011 when he was credited for 3 starts (equibase stats). I can’t believe he is allowed on the track like nothing ever happened and has a program trainer(auwarter) and EVERYONE knows the deal. I suspect Guerrero will get some ridiculous sentence and will train under another name or move his stock to PENN,CT, MTR, or LAUREL since these tracks don’t seem to test anymore. Is it any wonder no one takes this great game seriously except the fools like me who are in it for a living? ” were you on the OJ jury” was a classic!

  • August Song

    It’s about time someone took a stand against despicable, contemptable, and deplorable acts by people in the sport of thoroughbred horseracing, who should know better. Having a license in racing should be considered a privilege, not an inalienable right. Wake up! Let’s stop the enabling! 

  • August Song

    It’s about time someone took a stand against despicable, contemptable, and deplorable acts by people in the sport of thoroughbred horseracing, who should know better. Having a license in racing should be considered a privilege, not an inalienable right. Wake up! Let’s stop the enabling!

  • JAMES STAPLES

    NOT GUILTY!!!…MOVE ON…MO $$$ N THE EMPIRE STATE ANYWAY!!!…ty…

  • JAMES STAPLES

    NOT GUILTY!!!…MOVE ON…MO $$$ N THE EMPIRE STATE ANYWAY!!!…ty…

  • Misinquisitivie

    That’s a great idea ! Because I work back there and I am a woman whos known Carlos for many years and the whole thing is a joke! There isn’t 1 woman who thinks this is right by any means what they r doing to him ! So if u ask me 100% of the women would sign a petition saying they do not nor have not felt threatened by him ! He is a great guy at the peak of his career and all is a bunch of bs and jealousy !!! Can’t they just leave him alone ???

  • Kissmyazz@aol.com

    Has anybody thought that this is all a setup ? That they just might be looking for a reason to get the leading trainer out of here? Does anyone know the bensalem police own horses with some of the people trying to get Mr.Guerrero kicked off the track? It’s all a conspiracy !!! Wake up people!!!! And btw the girl in question who says she was wearing a wire really wasn’t ! So with that they had no “real case” with no real evidence !!! Leave Carlos alone and let him get back to winning races! Don’t be so jealous that he’s winning and ur not! Maybe u should let him train ur horses if u wanna win races!!!

  • Jennieo@aol.com

    Yes that exactly whats she’s saying ! Cause it’s true! I’m there ur not!

  • Tuffone@aol.com

    It’s funny u bring up John McCaslin because he actually is still allowed at Parx even though he was leaving the bar Casmirri’s and hit and killed a guy on a motorcycle but yet he’s allowed to be there??? Makes no sense!! See they only want to allow who they choose to be there! Figure that one out for me please !!!

  • BuckyinKentucky

    He was given stalls at Aqueduct? Home of THA President Violette? The national leader of the THA?
    Hmmm…Safe for him to roam NYRA but not Parx?

    This is not adding up.

    Where is the Horsemen’s groups response in defense of their member??

    • herewa

      reiterate how can they defend what they possibly are responsible for again the victim works in the hbpa office

  • BuckyinKentucky

    He was given stalls at Aqueduct? Home of THA President Violette? The national leader of the THA?
    Hmmm…Safe for him to roam NYRA but not Parx?

    This is not adding up.

    Where is the Horsemen’s groups response in defense of their member??

  • Hereswatchinya

    Heres the scoops peeps 1st  and formost the horsemens association at parx consists of 1 SELF APPOINTED KING and we all know who that is 2 the horsemen at parx (small outfits) are all petrified of said self appointed King he does nothing to help and infact hampers the ability of the 1,2,3 or 4 horse trainers   he has not kept any of his promises of protecting the little trainer by being comsumened and ousted ,when they had the chance to distribute extra monies to all they limeted it to the bigger purses the horsemens association decided it was not a good Idea to give everyone a thousand start why that would give the little guy a chance to survive . His board consists of choosen members with large amount of horses that will infact back all his doings there is no BODY they are now irrelivant in any decision making, on the whole It is the only horsemens group where the directer that is PAID to say the very least one hell of a lucrative salary annnnnnd also holds a seat as an owner on the board givin him 2 votes ………on any agenda. on the Guerrero incident, was he set up? absolutely is the horsemens association in cahootes with management absolutely since they couldnt get a finger on what was up with all his winnings they found his weak spot how is it the victim works in the horsemens office but not one other women on the grounds has come forward has to his harmful physical behavior ? I would tell you all how I know all this but I will just give you all a pause to ponder on just where the corruption at Parx begins … It is time for Mr. Green to look over at WHO he left in charge of PARX EAST! The State investigation has already begun. DISCRIMINATION IS AGAINST THE LAW IN ANY FORM PRIVATE PROPERTY OR NOT.

    • Sinking Ship

      You are absolutely right in every respect … don’t forget the King pulls down an additional salary (estimated to be about six figures) as the administrator of the equine rescue program, for doing just about nothing. Also, isn’t the King of the horsemen supposed to protect and go to bat for his minions, instead of trying to run them out of town? Time for a palace revolt!

  • Hereswatchinya

    Heres the scoops peeps 1st  and formost the horsemens association at parx consists of 1 SELF APPOINTED KING and we all know who that is 2 the horsemen at parx (small outfits) are all petrified of said self appointed King he does nothing to help and infact hampers the ability of the 1,2,3 or 4 horse trainers   he has not kept any of his promises of protecting the little trainer by being comsumened and ousted ,when they had the chance to distribute extra monies to all they limeted it to the bigger purses the horsemens association decided it was not a good Idea to give everyone a thousand start why that would give the little guy a chance to survive . His board consists of choosen members with large amount of horses that will infact back all his doings there is no BODY they are now irrelivant in any decision making, on the whole It is the only horsemens group where the directer that is PAID to say the very least one hell of a lucrative salary annnnnnd also holds a seat as an owner on the board givin him 2 votes ………on any agenda. on the Guerrero incident, was he set up? absolutely is the horsemens association in cahootes with management absolutely since they couldnt get a finger on what was up with all his winnings they found his weak spot how is it the victim works in the horsemens office but not one other women on the grounds has come forward has to his harmful physical behavior ? I would tell you all how I know all this but I will just give you all a pause to ponder on just where the corruption at Parx begins … It is time for Mr. Green to look over at WHO he left in charge of PARX EAST! The State investigation has already begun. DISCRIMINATION IS AGAINST THE LAW IN ANY FORM PRIVATE PROPERTY OR NOT.

  • Watchin you back

    Sounded like HERESWATCHINYA just described about half the HBPA’s in the country.

    • hereswatchinyou

      nope not really most of them dont change bylaws without the body voting  most of them the paid director  is not on the board as owner by running hmmmma couple of horses under another board members stable ahh and they opted to defiantly  not affiliate themselves with the NATIONAL HBPA and are an independent organization

  • Watchin you back

    Sounded like HERESWATCHINYA just described about half the HBPA’s in the country.

  • pumkineater

    amazing Jane takes the fall ,John has a paper trainer,and I wonder if he is still drinkin and driving …….and gets away with murder…..

  • watchinya

    ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh bucky u got a whole in one u have to be one of the elite at parx to get representation  but then how can u represent something you made happen hmmmmmmmmmmm

  • heres

    oh and what memberships there are only sheep being led by wolves——-

  • Sinking Ship

    You are absolutely right in every respect … don’t forget the King pulls down an additional salary (estimated to be about six figures) as the administrator of the equine rescue program, for doing just about nothing. Also, isn’t the King of the horsemen supposed to protect and go to bat for his minions, instead of trying to run them out of town? Time for a palace revolt!

  • herewa

    reiterate how can they defend what they possibly are responsible for again the victim works in the hbpa office

  • hereswatchinyou

    nope not really most of them dont change bylaws without the body voting  most of them the paid director  is not on the board as owner by running hmmmma couple of horses under another board members stable ahh and they opted to defiantly  not affiliate themselves with the NATIONAL HBPA and are an independent organization

  • Pjleft

    Sure it is. I found the Form 990 for 2009, the last year they filed one. (2010 maybe overdue). If you search “PA Thoroughbred Hosemens Associationb” , you should find. All non profits are required by IRS regs to file and make public their tax returns.

  • Pjleft

    PA THOROUGBRED HORSEMENS ASSOC INC
    just checked again, the above is the official name of the organization. 990′s are available for 2009, 2008, & 2007.

  • guest

    I totally agree with you. Guerrero has kids, how would he like it if it was done to one of them.  As a woman I feel what was done was justified.  Just because you are the leading trainer doesn’t give you the right to do what you want.

  • guest

    Big deal.  Have you noticed that since he has been gone none of the horses are winning like they use to.  I guess his brother can’t have the magic potion.

  • pumkineater

    unfortunately it is the nature of the BEASTS (plurel) to consume each other. This was a ploy from the “bigger” fish that couldnt get in on the action to eliminate him in any possible way!

  • Herewatchinyou

    just read a statement from the King ,explaining that they have no legal obligation todefend actions on personal conduct of their members thatat their responsibility and obligation to represent the interests of the members only on issues related to racing, hmmmmm well i could come up with a pretty large list on related racing issues of the small trainer he has turned his back on and refused to even dicuss. Also that being said I would like to quote another of his statements to the sheep “That the  obligation would be even stronger if the negatively impacted individuel was a vendor or employee of the PTHA” now to ponder this would lead me to the conclusion that his staff is much more important then the BODY OF MEMBERS THAT HE SERVES ? 

  • Herewatchinyou

    just read a statement from the King ,explaining that they have no legal obligation todefend actions on personal conduct of their members thatat their responsibility and obligation to represent the interests of the members only on issues related to racing, hmmmmm well i could come up with a pretty large list on related racing issues of the small trainer he has turned his back on and refused to even dicuss. Also that being said I would like to quote another of his statements to the sheep “That the  obligation would be even stronger if the negatively impacted individuel was a vendor or employee of the PTHA” now to ponder this would lead me to the conclusion that his staff is much more important then the BODY OF MEMBERS THAT HE SERVES ?

  • guest

    them horses don’t re-break at the quarter pole no more.  I wonder why ???

    • Wildbabe72

      ? ? He’s stock is old, he used to claim 3 , 4 a week not in last three or four months

  • guest

    them horses don’t re-break at the quarter pole no more.  I wonder why ???

  • Wildbabe72

    ? ? He’s stock is old, he used to claim 3 , 4 a week not in last three or four months

  • Al Copone

    Patricia C. Campbell Cianflone Your a great friend to his barn and i respect you for sticking with what you believe, and im happy you make statements based on facts !!

  • Wingtips

    You should be named ScareFace

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=598423127 Patricia C. Campbell Cianflone

    Thank you. 

  • Al Copone

    This name fits this case real well, maybe you should look up the Al Copone case and see how they got him

  • Wingtips

    It’s spelled Capone.  Look it up.

  • Al Capone

    Wow your so smart !!!

  • Wingtips

    It’s spelled you’re, Al.       

  • Al Capone

    You should be a school teacher !! I wish i would be blessed to meet you in person one day , so i can learn so much!!!

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