O’Neill: Pre-Race Treatment a ‘Human Error’

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Doug O'Neill, celebrating a three-win day at Del Mar during the 2013 meet Doug O'Neill, celebrating a three-win day at Del Mar during the 2013 meet

Trainer Doug O’Neill will go before California Horse Racing Board stewards for an incident that occurred at Del Mar on Aug. 24 when a foreman in his barn gave an amino acid supplement to a horse entered to race later that day – an apparent violation of California Horse Racing Board rules.

Reddam Racing and John Fuller’s Cinco de Mario was scratched from the fifth race Aug. 24 after CHRB safety steward Luis Jauregui saw an O’Neill employee “enter the stall of a horse with a detention sign on the door and administer a product in its mouth,” according to the published stewards’ minutes from that day. “He confronted the person, who turned out to be the foreman, and confiscated the tube, which had the brand name CB2A and contained amino acids, which are illegal to give on race day. The horse turned out to be Cinco de Mario, which was scheduled to run in the fifth race.”

It is believed the substance was a branched-chain amino acid supplement (BCAA), popular with body-builders and sold by a number of equine product companies as a paste to boost energy, help repair muscle damage, and reduce chances of post-race tying-up. It is against CHRB rules to give anything other than food, water, “feed supplements that do not contain prohibited drugs,” and bleeder medication on race-day.

CHRB rule 1843.5 permits the administration of certain substances, including amino acid supplements “by injection,” up to 24 hours prior to post time.

“It was a human error,” O’Neill told the Paulick Report. “We made a mistake and had to scratch the horse. There will be a hearing about it. It’s a paste available in tack shops and we do use it on horses that have a tendency to tie up. We give it 25-30 hours out for horses that are candidates for tying up. We see benefits. My foreman was supposed to give it to Handsome Mike, who was running the next day.”

One website that sells the paste recommends BCAA be given three to four hours before competition or on three consecutive days prior to competition (without having to give it that day and still be effective). It can be administered in a variety of ways, including oral syringe, tube, or even sprinkled in a horse’s feed.

Cinco de Mario was getting the supplement less than one hour before his race, according to the stewards’ minutes.

In 2012, Last Sting, a mare in trainer Melody Conlon’s barn, had to be scratched from an Aug. 5 race at Del Mar when safety steward Jauregui observed a member of Conlon’s staff giving the horse the same product Cinco de Mario received. Conlon, who had no medication infractions on her record since 2007, was fined $400 for violation of CHRB rule 1629 (penalty for late declaration).

O’Neill, trainer of the 2012 Kentucky Derby winner I’ll Have Another, has multiple medication violations on his record, including several TCO2 overages, the last of which resulted in a 45-day suspension served last summer.

No hearing date has been scheduled.

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  • Francis Bush

    Looks like we continue to waste owner’s money on stupid help. Why does anyone think that horses need feed supplements, particularly vitamins in which owners must pay huge sums to a vet. No long term studies have been done that prove horses in training need these supplements. Why does a trainer, such as Doug O’Neill, hire stupid help? I continue to be amazed at the decisions made by “supposedly” people in the know.

    • 14151617

      Why would anyone other than the trainer be giving a horse anything on race day?
      Since trainers are responsible for everyhting done to the horse should they not supervise everything?

      • Olebobbowers

        Or even, why would a trainer be giving an entered horse something against the rules? Arrogance is my guess.

    • Poway Mojo

      Francis: He IS a person in the know and he knew what his employee was doing. I worked as a groom for 2-1/2 years and these things happen by design. This is just his way of playing dumb.

    • fb0252

      amazed there is a rule that prohibits supplementation of basic “amino acids”.

      • Wally

        Exactly, they are in food.

    • Hossracergp

      Why did Patrick Byrne have Dr. Gregory Fox treating one of his horses at Saratoga which was entered to race that day with a “vitamin” supplement several years ago? When “mistakes” happen with trainers people like, they’re just mistakes. But if someone that people like to use as a whipping boy, walks the wrong way around the shedrow while chewing nicotine gum, it’s a federal offence.

      • Barry Irwin

        You may have a point, but that incident put quite a crimp in the life of Dr. Fox and did not do any wonders for Pat Byrne’s career either.

    • Kathy Agel

      You give O’Neill too much credit. You can bet he knew exactly what was being given and exactly when it was being given. Do you honestly think all of his drug violations are undeserved, the product of ‘stupid help’?

    • bev

      stupid help??? Bull #%$$%!! He was TOLD to give it ! That barn has 4 people for each horse!! NO WAY HUMAN ERROR! He was busted ..plain and simple

  • Lynn

    California Rules permits the administration of certain substances, including amino acid
    supplements “by injection,” up to 24 hours prior to post time.

    This Amino Acid Supplement was given ORALLY. The Supplement was NOT given by INJECTION. Why is an ORAL Vitamin, Mineral, Amino Acid or other Supplement a violation of the rules?. These Supplements are part of the diet for many horses in stressful conditions. Apparently, CHRB and their safety steward Luis Jauregui doesn’t know the first thing about nutrition of horses or even care. The CHRB are all about many useless regulations, that are NOT in the Best Interest of the HORSE. What is coming next? Will the CHRB & ARCI outlaw hay ,oats, and water? Horse Racing is being regulated out of business.

    • Knowitall

      He KNEW it was against the rules. And so did the foreman unless we are to believe instead that DO’s “foreman” running the barn is a dope? The only interesting thing that happened here is they got caught. As for the safety steward, HE WAS DOING HIS JOB. More than I can say for DO barn.

      • Lynn

        The rule says no Injections 24 hours prior to the race for supplements, the operative word injection. This was an oral supplement. There is a difference between Injection and Oral administration of supplements in the CHRB rules. The oral route of administration of supplements is NOT illegal under CHRB rules race day. It is the CHRB RACING SAFETY STEWARD that doesn’t even know the rules and neither do you. It is interesting that you ” Knowitall” believe that a Racing Safety Steward should be preventing proper nutrition and care of horses.

        • Knowitall

          The rules allow injection 24 hours out. And yeah, we all know the difference between injection and oral, but thanks anyway. Rules do not allow for any ORAL (or injection of) supplement or feed supplement that contains amino acid or any other “prohibited drug” on race day. If you know the rules so well Lynn, and so much better than everyone else, including the safety steward (who is not the one who scratched the horse, just the one who brought the treatment administration to the attention of the stewards, who determined it was a violation) and you know so much more than the trainer about proper nutrition and care, please let Doug O’Neill know pronto, since he is going with the “wrong horse” excuse.

          • Lynn

            Where in the CHRB rules does it say that Oral supplements are illegal on race dad?

            Answer, there is none.
            So both Safety Stewards and regular Stewards got it wrong on oral nutritional supplements.

            What is to be outlawed next? Green grass, hay, oats, and water?

            Rarely is there a fine or suspension when regulators and Stewards screw up. What is needed is to Ban Regulators & Stewards who help write stupid rules, or don’t know the rules.

          • Knowitall

            I agree, the rule should be written better, to specifically state that the vitamin supplements that are allowed up to 24 hours out by injection, are NOT allowed on race day by any means. But sounds like everyone involved knew this rule about amino acids as defined as a prohibited drug, and understood the intention of the rule, and previous rulings, except you?

            Good thing for Doug he is not going to use your defense that the rule wasn’t written clearly enough.

          • Tiznowbaby

            (i) Drugs, medications or any other substances may not be administered to a horse by injection, via nasogastric tube (stomach tubing) or any other means after the horse is entered to race, except under these regulations.

            Doesn’t this cover it: “or any other substances” “or any other means”?
            I’m truly asking, not being sarcastic.

          • Knowitall

            I agree. But if you argued it was just a “nutritional supplement” as Lynn did, you could argue it is just a feed supplement and allowed day of.

          • Lynn

            The term Substance can not be part of any rule. Unless you want to end horse racing. A Substance is any thing made of atoms, has weight and takes up space. Air, water, oats (feed), the dirt on the track, all are made of various combinations of substances.

          • TJS

            What are they?
            Branched-chain amino acids (BCAAs) help decrease exercise-induced muscle damage, increase muscle recovery, and regulate protein synthesis. They also reduce fatigue. This means being able to train at a higher intensity for a prolonged period of time.

            Last sentence

          • Mimi Hunter

            Or Race with higher intensity and for a prolonged period of time.

        • Casey

          The operative words are 24hrs PRIOR. Nothing injectable or oral on race day. Read it again

    • Wally

      You are right. This is a gray area right now. We used to give electrolytes via paste to horses a half hour after Lasix. Now it is a 1500 fine and a scratch. Someone with a brain needs to tweak these rules so horses can be cared for appropriately.

      • fb0252

        supplementation has reached the stage where there’s such a fine line between a performance enhancing supplement and and illegal one. horse racing will get into the 21st century on this eventually.

      • Roisin

        Ah, the drug quandary ! we give Lasix and then need to replace the electrolytes lost due to the action of Lasix.

        • LaraHa

          i was just thinking the same thing.

        • Mimi Hunter

          Makes about as much sense as people covering any exposed area with a strong sun blocker and then take Vitamin D supplements so you can synthesize calcium to avoid rickets or osteoporosis.

      • Kathy Agel

        How about eliminating Lasix? The problem of needing to replace electrolytes is then magically solved.

  • Knowitall

    Hey while we’re at it – who dropped the ball on nominating the two year old fillies to the Debutante for Reddam?

  • Andrew A.

    How about surveillance cameras in every stall 24 hours before they race?

    These cameras can be easily moved around and aren’t that expensive. How hard would it be to go through the recordings at a faster speed that can be slowed down when anyone
    enters the stall 24 hours or prior to the race?

    This has to be fixed because it is most likely happening all the time if nobody is watching and not just in the O’Neill barn.

    • s/s

      I have been saying this for years. Racetracks take in 1 million dollars a race but cannot afford to install video cameras. Why. Because they do not want to catch the cheats. They would have to deal with them pulling their horses and leaving to another state. The tail is wagging the dog in this sport.

    • BobbiBetsThePonies

      Would be a good idea- but what about when they take the horse out to get a bath before the race?

      Some trainers walk their horses in their barns for a good amount of time before leading them over to the race, too.

  • Tinky

    Odd how such “errors” almost never happen in stables such as those of Clement, Motion, etc. Apparently they have cornered the market on good help.

    • Roisin

      That is why my family sticks with Clement and will continue to do so. Like all help they follow instructions !

    • Convene

      Funny … I was just thinking the same thing. Or maybe someone needs training on how to hire good help????

      • 4Bellwether666

        Good help this day and time…Good luck…

    • Mimi Hunter

      Maybe he just missed the ‘detention’ sign – may just need an eye exam. lol He not only missed the sign, he also missed seeing the steward watching.

    • jorge

      Tinky. You better remove Mott from that short list. Do your research

      • Tinky

        Instead of offering up ignorant claims, I suggest that YOU do some research.

        From 2006 until now, 5,180 horses have raced out of Mott’s barns. According to the Jockey Club, he has received a grand total of ONE meaningful ruling during that period of time: a Bute overage. He also received three rulings for an ulcer medication (Ranitidine). He hasn’t received a single ruling in the past four years.

        Remove him from the list? Thanks for the laugh.

        • jorge

          My fault. Did not know you could only go back to 2006. That must be about the time he became a born again

        • jorge

          Ok Tinky I took your advice and did some research. I don’t know what ignorant claim I made. What I am saying is this. You named 3 trainers . Motion and Clement have never served a suspension for a drug violation , Mott has. Just the Facts

          • Tinky

            What part of “almost never happens” do you find difficult to comprehend? Perhaps English isn’t your first language, but “almost never” is not synonymous with “never”.

            Furthermore, Mott has NOT been suspended once since 2006. He paid two trivial fines.

          • Don Reed

            Tinky, my condolences. You attract even more irrational people than I have had the pleasure of meeting over the years.

  • Richard C

    Too often in sports – “errors” mean illegalities and “human error” is some lowly-paid schmuck not following orders, which leads to “mistakes”….getting caught with the goods.

    • Roisin

      Good analysis/summation !!

  • fast filly

    Are all the stewards just hanging out in the barn area before races, or are they just watching certain horses…seems like stewards are going far beyond their job description…

    • RayPaulick

      This was what is known as a “safety steward” – not one of the regular stewards officiating the races. Tom LaMarra has a bloodhorse.com article from a couple of years ago on the role of the CHRB’s safety steward, whose job in part is to monitor activities in the stable area. http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/65638/safety-steward-position-called-valuable

    • liz

      The receiving barn at Del Mar is literally steps from O’Neils barn and steps from where any steward would park.

    • 4Bellwether666

      You might want to get a Webster’s and look the word Steward up…Just a bunch of cheating going on from coast to coast that has to be dealt with…And it will be dealt with for the sake of “The Game”…

  • s/s

    The guy is a known CHEAT.
    I have witnessed trainers giving amino injections prior to shipping in. It is a known performance enhancer.
    O’Needle needs to be suspended for life.
    Lets not forget the Burnadette tragedy and what he did to her.

  • Greg Jones

    Like I said yesterday on Twitter after being made aware of Mr. O’Neill’s violation, “BUT they love Cinco de Mario! And Mr. O’Neill is such a likeable guy. #BS” This is used to boost energy, repair muscle damage, AND reduce chances of post-race tying-up. But good answer saying it was supposed to be given to Handsome Mike Mr. O’Neill since he did race almost exactly 24 hours later.
    Honest mistake? Sure it was Mr. O’Neill. Remember, a leopard can’t/doesn’t change its spots.

  • Ben van den Brink

    Getting caught was stupid, not the intention for giving it to the horse.

  • Guy Fleegman1

    The betting public that support this industry must LOVE reading this garbage

  • Poway Mojo

    Good thing Drug O’Neill does not train in the UK. He would be mucking stalls. Apparently, WE do not give a rip.

    46 years attending Del Mar. What an embarrassment he is.

    MOJO
    20 minutes form the track

  • Dan Jividen

    I don’t know about the rest of you but I have had enough of Mr. Doug O’Neil and his never ending lame excuses. He appears to be nothing more than another Richard Dutrow, Jr., constantly gaming the game and filing endless appeal after endless appeal when he gets caught with his hand in the cookie jar. Wouldn’t he be happier, and more useful to society, as an auto mechanic?

    • LaraHa

      as an auto mechanic? that would scare me to death, think what mayhem he could wreck on a car.

  • Olebobbowers

    Kudos to CHRB safety steward Luis Jauregui, for not turning a blind eye to these offenders. Great work Luis, thanks for keeping an eye out for cheaters. Your actions are outstanding, and appreciated by the bettors, without whose support there would be no horse racing. You are an Equine version of Sherlock Holmes! Go gettem Tiger ;)

    • Guy Fleegman1

      Luis is stand up honest guy…need more people like him in charge of horse racing

    • Mimi Hunter

      He [Mr Jauregui] really needs a huge ‘Thank You’. He also should be made aware that people do appreciate the work he does. In many cases similar the tendency is to shoot the messenger.

  • Knowitall

    Rule 1843.5

    (a) In this rule a horse is deemed “entered” in a race 48 hours before post time of the running of the race. (b) Water and feed, including hay, grain, and feed supplements that do not contain prohibited drugs may be provided to the horse up until post time. (c) Drugs, medications or any other substances shall not be administered by any means to a horse within 48 hours of the post time of the race in which the horse is entered except: (1) Topical medications, (such as antiseptics, ointments, salves, leg rubs, leg paints, hoof dressings, liniments and antiphlogistics) which do not contain anesthetics or other prohibited drugs. (d) Any drug, medication or any other substance found in a test sample taken from a horse which is not authorized under this rule shall be deemed a prohibited drug substance. (e) Any of the following substances may be administered by injection until 24 hours of the post time of the race in which the horse is entered: (1) Injectable Vitamins; (2) Electrolyte Solutions; (3) Amino Acid Solutions; (4) Tetanus Antitoxin or Tetanus Toxoid, if the horse has sustained a wound. (f) Approved anti-ulcer medications may be administered until 24 hours before the post time of the race in which the hose is entered. A list of approved anti-ulcer medications, and route of administration, shall be posted at each racetrack in the office of the official veterinarian. (g) One of the following non-steroidal anti-inflammatory medications may be administered until 24 hours before the post time of the race in which the horse is entered under Rule 1844 of this division: (1) Phenylbutazone; (2) Flunixin; (3) Ketoprofen. (h) In addition to the substances named in subsection (c)(1) , any of the following substances may be administered under Rule 1845 of this division within 24 hours of the post time of the race in which the horse is entered: (1) Furosemide; (2) Other Authorized Bleeder Medication. (i) Drugs, medications or any other substances may not be administered to a horse by injection, via nasogastric tube (stomach tubing) or any other means after the horse is entered to race, except under these regulations.

  • Roger

    Sounds like a CA irish lullaby……..how about the CHRB spending some money for some professional lie detector tests and put some TEETH into CA Racing Integrity. Paul Redden is well known San Diego polygrapher……set up an appointment for the barn foreman and O’Neill and lets see what happens.

  • fb0252

    I am impressed that the incident–intentional or non–was discovered and dealt with as it should.

  • pesposito

    I would fire my foreman if the idiot has all that responsibility and doesn’t know which horse is in on what day. I say this all tongue in cheek. Wonder if O’Neill will fire him?

    • Knowitall

      Nah. Why do that when you need a fall guy so often?

      • pesposito

        Yeah, you got a point.

  • LaraHa

    nice job on the story ray.

  • http://judgebork.wordpress.com Lou Baranello Former Steward

    ‘Human Error” The exact same two words used by former Kentucky steward John Veitch.

    • Larry Ensor

      This comment was totally uncalled for. If you never made a “ bad call” in all the years, of which I have no idea or where, as a steward then you are either a saint or a liar. How many high profile races were you involved with. How many under the microscope Breeders’ Cup races were you a Steward for? Especially one that set up the way this ONE race did? How dare you belittle a man of John’s stature. He may not be every bodies cup of tea as a Steward not many are but he is a man I have know for many years and is in the books. And not just a foot note.
      Let it go will you please.

      • http://judgebork.wordpress.com Lou Baranello Former Steward

        Larry, The truth can, at times, cause hurt and it also can be demeaning. John Veitch is fortunate to have an ally such as you.

  • LouisBille

    Anything you give to a horse the day of the race is meant to be performance enhancing, how hard is that to understand? Amino acids 2x a day except for race day – OK in my book, helps with the rigors of training in my experience.

  • Andrew A.

    Could be time for a Players Boycott and this stuff is definitely one of the issues that needs to be addressed.

  • MA

    Would the amino acids have caused a positive drug test result? It’s obviously better the violation was caught before Cinco de Mario affected wagering, but I’m wondering if it would’ve eventually been caught anyways. I think it’s inexcusable to administer something to the wrong horse, but if it’s that much of a difference between the allowed time and the time they gave it to the horse, it should show in a test, and would be pretty stupid for someone to do on purpose.

  • David

    SO WHAT, BIG DEAL !!!!!!

    • Greg Jones

      Yes, big deal! Sport doesn’t need rules, just do whatever you like.

  • pesposito

    If I recall correctly, when Doug O’Neill got the positive for TCO2 overages, it was stated that the horse had not been milkshaked. There are many ways to manipulate the TCO2 in a horse, and obviously with that positive they had miscalculated. Nobody knew how he was doing it, but amino acids are involved in the “milkshaking” of a horse, even if it wasn’t given to the horse through a gastric tube and it seems to me that he has not changed a bit and is still trying to manipulate and cheat.

  • jttf

    why wasnt the horse tested ? wouldnt it have been interesting to see what his TC02 level was ? the chrb sure makes it easy for these trainers. now lets give him a tiny fine. that will teach him.

    • Knowitall

      Or wait to issue suspension/fine when he has a horse in the classics next spring.;-) How does racing have any feet left?

  • 1fdoos

    not too smart. Better get some help who has half a brain

  • BobbiBetsThePonies

    So was the bad test that happened at Belmont Park a result of “human error”? You know….the bad test that nobody is speaking of. Why hasn’t this been brought to the public’s attention? Wind of Bosphorus was found with trace amounts of a banned substance in his post race samples. Yet another O’Neill cheat.

  • Kris

    Wether or not the barn foreman gave the amino acid supplement knowingly against the rules or simply mistaking one horse for another would seem to be irrelevant because he did ignore the detention sign at the horses stall. I would think that someone with the experience of a barn foreman would know what a detention sign looks like. It would seem to me that the stewards were keeping an eye on O’Neil’s stable, otherwise why was Mr. Jaregui near O’Neil’s barn?

    • MA

      If you read the report, O’Neill’s barn is right across from the receiving/test barn, where Juaregui works.

      • Kris

        Thanks, MA, I did not know that. It’s very handy for Doug’s barn to be right across from receiving barn; he should have been a tad more subtle.

  • Bill Casner

    There’s an easy fix. Install cameras in every shed row and have them monitored. It is a rare business that does not have video surveillance In this day an age. You can bet the horsemans groups will throw a fit when the first racetrack has the guts to lead on this issue. My Mother always told me “Character is who you are when no one is looking”.

    • betterthannothing

      Sadly, racing is decades behind re. security and tracking of horses which goes together with its dependence on drugs and secrecy despite increased danger to horses and riders and its reluctance to overrule misguided horsemen groups and severely punish and ban its abusers and cheaters.

  • Clint

    Hey Ray do you think nfl players should be allowed to drink Gatorade? Sometimes the use of an electrolyte paste helps balance the essential elements to prevent fatigue and catastrophic breakdown. So maybe Mr. O’Neill was doing what was right for his horse. Now he has some Ol’ Cokester doubting his integrity and smearing his name. You’ve got to be proud of yourself Mr. Paulick your really helping the sport.

  • Jord

    This seems to be a clumsy interpretation and application of a rule designed to stop milkshaking. I don’t see a violation worth pursuing and I think the oral dose vs injection distinction could use some improvement and is possibly not clearly defined. This does not qualify as “cheating” in the context of actual nefarious practices.

  • Larry Ensor

    While IMO this is innocuous on face value and certainly doesn’t warrant convening the Spanish Inquisition so I haven’t taken the time to read the majority of comments. I won’t belittle the foremen I am sure he feels bad enough already.
    In my barn I tell my employees, I don’t want to hear I forgot, I made a mistake. We are, I am paid not to forget, not to make mistakes. We are, I am paid to look after every detail 100% of the time. Yes this is innocuous, as I have said to employees but it might have been something that could have turned out far worse. I say to employees to treat every detail of your job description as if the horse’s life depends on it. Because there could be a situation when it does. Make it a habit, “muscle memory” to double check your work and or the “daily details” board. Measure twice cut once goes the adage. Remember when you screw up its not your name that is on the line but mine and my reputation. That being said, if I were O’Neill I would have said, “A mistake was made and I take full responsibility. I would like to apologize to Mr. Reddam I know how much he enjoys watching his horses run and now we will have to wait for another race that fits”. Not to mention the wasted expenses of “race day prep” and potential lost income that the owner has to suck up. Didn’t cost you anything.
    Doug a bit of advise, nothing lasts forever in this game no matter how good you are or think you are. I have know a number of very good trainers, Derby winners and Hall of Famers who read to much of their own press and or looked at all their Win pictures one too many times. The next thing they knew they were down to a few stalls filled with low level claimers.

    • Stanley inman

      Larry,
      Maybe the intensity here over this
      “innocuous” event is about
      Cognitive dissonance
      Believe doug’s trainer is competent
      And saw the detention sign

      • Larry Ensor

        Fair enough and agree. That was basically what I was trying to say in my last paragraph, run on sentence.

  • WILLIAM L. ANTON

    Doug, how can you face yourself in the mirror every morning???? Get a life and TRY and get it right!!

  • whatev

    Yeah once we ban race day amino acids, things will really be under control. What next? Corn oil?

    • Larry Ensor

      Maybe if it is made from genetically modified corn.

  • j foreman

    I’ve been in this game for a long time and have worked for some of the best trainers and some of the worst, I am a foreman its what I do and as a foreman you do what you are told. The issue here is that they were caught administering “something” to a horse on raceday which is against the rules just about everywhere. I have administered this same supplement on many occasions for horses that tie up sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn’t, its not going to make a super horse out of any horse, it’s made for post race when the tie up occurs.

    • Larry Ensor

      “do what you are told” good point. In recent years it seems to me that a number of high profile trainers are more on the business side then the horse side. If it were not for their very talented and unsung assistants, foremen their names would only be foot notes. A few give a lot of credit most don’t.

      • j foreman

        In my opinion it probably was an oversight simply because they knew someone would be scrutinizing his barn and you wouldn’t just walk in with a tube of stuff and give it to an”in today” horse in front of someone cause believe me there are more sneaky ways than one to skin a cat…lol

  • MSD

    I have met O’Neill many times. He is always very kind and respectful and willing to have a conversation with me, ask me how I’m doing and what I’ve been up to in life, etc. A lot of people, especially trainers, will only do that with the “big shots” around the track. Nonetheless, I’ve heard enough about these drug violations in his barn. And when his brother was interviewed (I believe on CNN) and he said, “We had to look up what milkshaking meant when we heard of the accusations that we were milkshaking our horses” I lost all respect for that guy.
    P.S. Doug O’Neill is not a horseman. He’s a buisnessman.

    • betterthannothing

      Following Burna Dette’s shocking fatal breakdown, DON said: “It’s a business”. I could never respect or trust him and those who consider and treat damaged horses that way.

  • barry

    I propose
    that the betting public boycott races that have horses entered by these known cheats. Money is the only way to wake up the horsemens assoc. and tracks.

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