DOUG O’NEILL – A TIRED ACT

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By Ray Paulick

Doug O’Neill could learn a thing or two about honor and humility from Yasuo Ikee, a trainer who brought two-time Japanese Horse of the Year Deep Impact to France to contest the Prix de l’Arc de Triomphe in 2006. Deep Impact finished third as the favorite, disappointing millions of Japanese horse racing fans, but the sting of that loss was nothing compared to the embarrassment and shame Ikee felt when a drug test came back positive for the prohibited medication Ipratropium a few days after the race. Deep Impact was disqualified and Ikee was fined.


Ikee didn’t feign ignorance over how the drug got into the horse’s system or blame his veterinarian for using it to treat lung congestion well in advance of the race, something that was permitted in Japan but not in France. He didn’t file an appeal, saying it was unfair that medication rules in France are different from those in Japan.


He did none of that.


Instead, Ikee took his medicine. He paid the fine without complaining. He apologized, to racing authorities in France, to the Japan Racing Association, and to the many fans who had followed Deep Impact’s career. He said he thought he was following the appropriate guidelines for the medication, but that he was wrong. Ikee pledged he would do everything in his power to become a better trainer and to understand the rules, both at home and abroad, so something like this never happened again.


Later that year, after Deep Impact won the Japan Cup, Ikee was asked by the Japanese press about his experience in France. He became very emotional, calling it by far the lowest point of his professional career, and repeated his earlier apologies to fans and racing authorities.


Let’s compare that to what Doug O’Neill said after his first public TCO2 overage in May 2006, shortly after the California Horse Racing Board began testing for the alkalizing agents that are said to prevent lactic acid buildup in a horse, thus slowing down muscle fatigue.


“We’re completely innocent,” O’Neill told Bloodhorse.com at the time. “I kind of feel like a guy who is found guilty of a DUI who never took a drink.”


Hey, Doug. Find that guy for me, and I’ll buy him a drink. He deserves one.


The penalty then for O’Neill was that he had to run his horses out of a detention barn, where they could be more closely watched.  Cruel and unusual punishment? Hardly.


In January 2008, another O’Neill runner tested over the limit for TCO2. It took eight months for the CHRB to fine O’Neill $7,500 and suspend him for 30 days for the violation. But the suspension was stayed, as long as he didn’t have any further positive tests over a 12-month period. The stay was convenient, in that it allowed O’Neill to participate in the 2008 Breeders’ Cup.


Earlier this year, O’Neill shipped a horse named Stephen’s Got Hope to Chicago, where he finished seventh in the Illinois Derby at Hawthorne but got nabbed with an overage for TCO2. This time, O’Neill complained about the lab in Illinois that did the testing, but ultimately he decided to take his punishment there without filing an appeal. The penalty was $1,000 and a 15-day suspension. He did appeal over whether the Illinois suspension should be recognized in California, suggesting that because the rules are slightly different in the two states there should not be reciprocity. He lost that appeal and closed down his stable for 15 days in the latter part of the Hollywood Park summer meeting.


Sandwiched between the Illinois violation and the recent complaint that Argenta, a filly he trains, tested over the limit for TCO2 in an Aug. 25 race at Del Mar, was the drama that O’Neill created at Los Alamitos when a low-level claiming horse from his barn broke down and died in a race after barely raising a gallop coming out of the starting gate. That horse, a filly named Burna Dette, had been claimed by O’Neill and owner Greg Guiol for $25,000 at Hollywood Park in late June and two starts later was dumped into a $2,000 claiming race at Los Alamitos.


His explanation for the huge class drop by Burna Dette was: “It’s a business.”


Of course, O’Neill suggests he is innocent of the most recent TCO2 overage, though it sounds as though he’s been lawyered a bit. “To the best of my knowledge, no substance was given to this horse that would have raised her TCO2 level,” O’Neill told Daily Racing Form. “Consequently, I’m working with CHRB investigators, trying to figure out what happened.”


O’Neill’s act is tired. It’s doing nothing to advance horse racing’s image and counter the undercurrent of skeptics who believe cheaters are ruining the game. By now, I am convinced that Doug O’Neill, unlike Yasuo Ikee,  has no shame. But I am wondering about the owners who keep filling his stalls with horses, allowing him to win yet another training title, as he will do this afternoon at Del Mar. Have they no shame, either?

Copyright © 2010, Blenheim Publishing

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  • s/s

    Doug O’Neill is a great trainer and has been wrongly accused in all these accusations. Please leave the guy alone and let him continue on as one of the best trainers in the history of the sport.

  • minthill

    Here is a 4-letter word for him; Putz.

  • Tom Carvel

    I thought the Shake Shack was the new restaurant at Saratoga. They got one in Del Mar too?

  • Bugweed

    I’d really like to get all excited about frying these type of trainerd for long list of violations, but you won’t stop the drug abuse until you put abusers behind bars. Drugging horses deprives the bettor of honest services, it’s a rigged game a criminal fraud. But because the states are afraid to use criminal sanctions because the trainers always hire skilled attorneys. The states bring recent law school grads, so nothing will change. As long as a vet can claim his wife packed the cobra venom with his lunch by mistake, and the trainer whose refrige it was found in, still gets stalls at Keeneland, nothing will change. A cheap horse died big deal, it’s not like they or anyone else cares.

  • Paula

    Because the Japanese have Honour for their sport & sport icons. Doug O’Neill has no honour.

  • Heather

    Because the Japanese have Honour for their sport & sport icons.

    They showed a lot of respect for Ferdinand……but you are right Doug O’Neil is a blight on the sport that should be removed.

  • DonnyP

    Are you kidding me Ray? Tiresome act? YOU THRIVE ON A GUY LIKE THIS

  • The Rail

    Comments 2-6 = “The Ignorant”

  • Nick Kling

    This may not be an exact quote, but it is close. In the movie ‘Goldfinger,’ Goldfinger said to James Bond, ” Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, third is design.”

    If there had been a fourth, he probably would have added, it’s an orchestrated plan.

    The solutions are simple. Sharply increase the penalties, and in some cases, as Bugweed said, get out the cuffs. Do not allow trainers to hand the stable over to assistants for suspensions longer than a reasonable time, say 15 days. Finally, penalize the owners and/or their horses involved in the violation.

    Owners who go to chronic rule-breakers are enablers and should be held accountable for their actions. If they stopped getting purse money, this foolishness would end quickly.

    Many top class horsemen, some with large stables, never have an overage, or at most, one or two over many years. It can be done.

  • Trappeddownontherail

    Lest anyone confused The Rail with Trappeddownontherail….Let me just say that drugs are killing this ‘sport.’ I am continuously surprised that the Humane Orgs have not climbed all over us. They have ample justification.

    The only thing wrong about this story is that this trainer is being singled out when every trainer out there knows that they can pretty much get away with just about anything. The worst that can happen is to to be forced to hand your charges over to your assistant/fellow trainer for a few days and deal with your riders and owners by cell phone, which you do most of the time anyway. Oh, and cash the checks when they are transferred over by your assistant/fellow trainer.

    Regulation in most States is a joke, unfortunately, a joke that in many cases ends in tragedy for the animal, if not the human aboard.

  • a

    great article ray he has alot of owners who gamble so they are as sick as he is..

  • Paula

    @Heather…what happened with Ferdinand was inexcusable; however, the people who bought him to stand @ stud were not responsible for his evential slaughter…he was not sold directly by them to be slaughtered.
    … he got lost in the system, just like many of the claiming level horses do here who end up on feed lots.

    I have said this again and again, though Breeders’ Cup hasn’t quite gotten the point: any trainer who has any medication positives with ANY HORSE during the year should be denied to be the trainer of record for ANY Breeders’ Cup horse. So, unless a medication violation is contested & a “stay” granted on a medication violation suspension, that trainer should not be able to enter horses for Breeders’ Cup. Period. Some are managing to get violations, serve suspensions, and still reap the spoils of Breeders’ Cup.

    If we want to restore honour & sportsmanship, then Breeders’ Cup should take medication positives & suspensions to the extreme because, next to the Triple Crown, these are the highest profile days in U.S. racing.

  • jhbvta24

    Looks like O’Neill’s business really suffers in light of all of his suspensions. I’m curious how much the vet bills are monthly for horses in the barn? Maybe Scott and BR of the Great Friends Stable would be willing to shed some light on this. My guess is about $3150 for training and a $1000 for vet bills, accupressure and Triple-thick shakes.

  • Margrethe

    A thousand for a third TCO2 positive? That’s what the CA. Stewards hand out for not reporting a gelding! Sometimes for a horse that was gelded at the farm!
    This fourth infraction with a 39 plus level deserves a lengthy suspension. A year would wake up some of his busy peers who remain able to hit just under 37. O’Neil horses, many of which have the identical conditions, should be dispersed among other trainers where they will have an opportunity to run.
    The owner of Berna Dette bragged he sent a horse to Mountaineer or River Downs where he got his confidence back and won by
    13 lengths. Of course, they don’t test for TCO2 at those tracks. Surprised?
    Paula #12 is right. A positive during the calender year and no Breeders Cup. That might be expanded to no BC sponsored races. Most people are pretty sick of this. Fans are expressing their distaste with their feet. Gone.

  • Susanne

    at least this story is being reported in the local (San Diego) press unlike the story of Burna Dette which was delicately ignored

  • LJBroussard

    Doug O’Neill is not a horseman. He’s an unethical clown which does not learn from its lame, stupid mistakes:

    01/29/09 LATS #024. Trainer DOUG O’NEILL, who worked the horse Esperamos for removal from the Veterinarian’s list at Santa Anita on December 27, 2008, is fined FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS* ($500.00) pursuant to California Horse Racing Board rule #1887 (Trainer to Insure Condition of Horse) for violation of California Horse Racing Board rule #1844 (C) (2) (Authorized Medication – Flunixin in excess of permitted levels).

    ***
    Working a horse for removal from the vet’s list with a Banamine excess. Wow. That’s classy. Truly, truly classy.

    As always, I say nothing online which I wouldn’t say to a man’s face.

    Linda

  • PWK

    It is amazing to me that he keeps continuing to get caught. I work in this business and have my assistant trainer’s license and we know exactly when to stop using a drug and how much of a drug we can give how many hours before a race. I do not agree with any of this and wish this could be a drug-free sport but this is the nature of the beast at the moment. I don’t think he is one of the smartest around, or maybe he is because he basically keeps on getting away with it with a slap on the wrist. And I agree with Paula, no Breeder’s Cup and especially if you are appealing or have a stay of a suspension. The Breeder’s Cup is for the best of the best and getting positives for drugs is not being the best of the best.

  • ktq

    Many of our top trainers today made a name for themselve by pushing the envelop. Like the No Breeders Cup idea and that owners get penalized as well. Why not take the purse money and put it towards rescuing our horses that fall through the cracks? Watched Malibu Moonshine vanned off last week. Still makes me sick to wonder what happened to this stakes winning – Preakness starter that was still racing at age eight and over 60 starts in him.

  • LJBroussard

    Some people do not learn because they do not wish to learn. They consider themselves above the laws of God and man and — what’s really weird if you stop and think about it — don’t pay enough attention to detail to notice that a horse in their care has had its balls removed. Naught but the facts:

    04/29/05 CDTH #005. DOUG O’NEILL, the trainer of SPIRITED, the second place finisher in the fourth race at Santa Anita Park on March 10, 2005, is fined Three Hundred Dollars ($300.00)* for violation of California Horse Racing Board Rule #1843 (a) & (d) (Medication, Drugs and Other Substances – Dexamethasone).

    11/24/05 HRTH #018. Trainer DOUG O’NEILL is fined the sum of One Thousand Dollars ($1000.00)* for violation of California Horse Racing Board rule #1894 (Duties of a Trainer – Filing a False Scratch Card) at Oak Tree on October 18, 2005.

    06/15/06 HRTH #120. Trainer DOUG O’NEILL is fined FOUR HUNDRED DOLLARS ($400.00)* for failure to properly report the gelding of the horse POLITICAL MANEUVER which ran in the third race at Hollywood Park on July 14, 2006, which is a violation of California Horse Racing Board Rule #1865 (Altering of Sex of Horse).

    06/02/07 HRTH #46. Trainer DOUG O’NEILL is fined THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS ($300.00)* for violation of California Horse Racing Board Rule #1698 (Failure to Start and Run – Medication), causing the late declaration of SAVANNAH PEACH from the ninth race on June 2, 2007.

    07/05/07 HRTH #87. Trainer Douglas O’Neill, who started the horse Wisdom Cat in the seventh race at Hollywood Park Race Track on May 27, 2006, having entered into a stipulated settlement agreement with the California Horse Racing Board, is fined THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS ($3,000.00)* pursuant to California Horse Racing Board rule #1887 (Trainer to Insure Condition of Horse) for violation of California Horse Racing Board rule #1843(a) and #1843.6(d) (1,2) (Total Carbon Dioxide Testing).

    01/29/09 LATS #024. Trainer DOUG O’NEILL, who worked the horse Esperamos for removal from the Veterinarian’s list at Santa Anita on December 27, 2008, is fined FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS* ($500.00) pursuant to California Horse Racing Board rule #1887 (Trainer to Insure Condition of Horse) for violation of California Horse Racing Board rule #1844 (C) (2) (Authorized Medication – Flunixin in excess of permitted levels).

    06/18/09 HRTH #052. Trainer DOUG O’NEILL is fined ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS ($100.00)* for violation of California Horse Racing Board rules #1852 (Reporting to Receiving Barn-Late) and #1894 (Duties of Trainer) with his horse “Mikey Bones” in the first race on June 7, 2009. HOL

    06/21/09 San Joaquin County Fair. 11th race: #5 LUCKY SPELL (Tr. Doug O’Neill) lame on track. Track Veterinarian Robert Connolly. REFUND: $43,509.62

    07/23/09 DMTD # 5 Trainer Doug O’Neill, who entered the horse Digestivo in the fifth race at Del Mar on July 24, 2009, is fined THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS ($300.00) * pursuant to California Horse Racing Board Rule #1629 (Penalty for Late Declaration) for violation of California Horse Racing Board Rule # 1588 (g) (Horse Ineligible to Start in Race). DEL
    11/18/09 Holland Creek 3YO F $25K CLM Guiol, G., & O’Neill, D. O’Neill, D. Bejarano, R. Bobbled start, BD 1/4 pole. HOL

    03/06/10 LATS #063. Trainer DOUG O’NEILL, is fined FOUR HUNDRED DOLLARS ($400.00)* pursuant to California Horse Racing Board rule #1629 (Penalty for Late Declaration) for violation of California Horse Racing Board rule #1894 (Duties of Trainer-late submission of scratch card) on March 5, 2010 at Santa Anita Race Track.

    08/05/10 DMTD #9 Trainer Doug O’Neill is fined ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS*($100) for violation of California Horse Racing Board rules #1852 (Reporting to Receiving Barn) and #1894 (Duties of Trainer) with his horse “Milty Way” in the fourth race on July 28, 2010. DEL

    08/06/10 Burna Dette 5 m $2K clm LA Guiol, G. O’Neill, D. DeAlba, C. Trailed, BD midway on turn, had been dropped from $16K clm last race at DMR.

  • August Song

    (Doug) O’Neill use something other than hay, oats, and water? Hmmm, what could that possibly be? I can’t imagine what.

  • takethat

    “I am continuously surprised that the Humane Orgs have not climbed all over us. They have ample justification”

    So am I – don’t worry – it’s only a matter of time. My guess is that horse racing is outlawed first in MA and then the other ‘progressive’ states will jump on the bandwagon. Running horses that are injured and/or drugged up is pure cruelty.

    Once the likes of the NYT start to campaign on this sort of stuff we are finished. It’s only a matter of time.

  • Swamp Fox

    Albert Einstein once said “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results”. Ditto for Doug and the CHRB.

  • http://Paulickreport.com General lee

    S/S that not a good icon get smart D. Oneil is a paper trainer. He has no horsemenship what so ever. I like Doug but his head in the sand is getting old . He really needs to man up and take responsiblty for his crews action . Besides this where does the vets responsibilty begin and end ,as well as the owners that fill the stalls

  • http://paulick george

    had 5 trainers in 10 years
    1 won 1 race in a year 2 horses all hay little skills
    2 worked hard no wins in a year
    3 win 5 races in a year 2 horses vet bill 1800 a month was asked to leave barn area when vet came philly park
    4 won 3 races with 2 horses hard working english trainer that finally gave in and joine cant beat em join em
    5 won 6 races tack room looked like a doctors office would stop on side of road miles out from track to inject several things ,inject joints days before races lknow each tracks drug rules and tolerances ,bottom line was what ever it takes ,other side sold a horse to penn national queen trainer alias horseman president as a broodmare as of now won 5 of 8 starts and a 2nd now claimed will wait and see what goes on now he has several that get claimed that ever start again IS THIS WHAT WE WANT IN THE SPORT
    6 2YROLD getting hay oats and water now that i have my own trainers licesened 2nd only try to pletcher horse at monmouth just a owner turn trainers point no more outrageous van bills small but needed vet bills and things only legal and for the good of the horse thanks

  • Albany

    Why just focus on one guy? Word is that performance enhancing substances are back big time on the East Coast, too (Monmouth and Saratoga). Rumor is that steroids are back, just their use is stopped a little before racing and regumate is being used to wash out or mask their presence. Performance enhancing effects wear off a lot slower than blood levels. If this is true, then it is a real shame. A real shame, too, on the owners that put winning ahead of integrity.

  • Ratherrapid

    According to a body building friend of mine steroids have a training effect for 6 months.

    The NTRA is crowing about the steroid withdrawal rules. Why permit withdrawal? What about just banning steroids, period?

  • Ratherrapid

    #24– congrats. I call it “the trainer problem”. Everybody that’s owned a horse understands. Some solutions on Paulick eventually.

  • stillriledup

    Albany, we are focusing on one guy because you have to start somewhere.

    I like what Nick (post 9) has to say. Nick says “get out the cuffs”

    How about arresting O’Neill in the winners circle today at DMR when he’s receiving his leading trainer trophy for race fixing.

    Tampering with a sporting contest is a crime yet somehow, no one seems to notice or care.

    Where’s the FBI?

  • Margrethe

    Tampering with a sporting event which crosses state lines is a felony.
    It;s time.

  • jhbvta24

    #28: Victor Conte did jail time for providing illegal performance enhancing drugs to professional athletes. Richie Sklar did jail time for bribing jockeys to fix a race. Both of these guys were hung out to dry by the FBI. Why not O’Neill?

  • Outraged

    Until trainers who violate the rules are banned and put out of the business and are demonized instead of glorified, racing across the nation with continue on it’s downward trend. These guys are worse than people who fight dogs. At least the dogs usually don’t survive after the first fight. These horses are entered time and time again, poked with needles, given mind altering drugs and made to run on legs with fractures and soft tissue injuries. It is horrible and Thank God Ray Paulick is man enough to bring our dirty secret out into the open!

  • Tony

    We should also be looking at the Veterinarians that administer or supply these drugs !! They make a killing $$$. Most Thoroughbreds at the track (sound or unsound) are a gold mine to many of these Vets. In my opinion dirty trainer goes hand in hand with unethical vet !!!

  • Barb Dwyer

    This is one of the best articles I’ve read here. Mr. Paulick you deserve enormous respect for taking on this issue. Kudos and please keep up the good work.

  • LJBroussard

    Barb Dwyer, I second your opinion. Mr. Ray, you the man.

    #32, ah, yes… The vets who provide the drugs and procedures. They’re like army ants crawling across the backside. Not exactly hidden from view. There’s a vet down here with a serious gambling problem who will do absolutely anything for anyone as long as he gets enough dinero to pay the vig on the money he owes to some not-nice people. It’s disgusting, and I’m sure his name is Legion, and I’m sure he’s in California and New York and everywhere else. Disgusting.

    Last week, I attended a Texas Racing Commission meeting (the final in a series where the Commission accepted input from horsemen before deciding our fate in terms of race dates for 2011). This was the first time I addressed both racetrack management and the Commission in a public setting. To make my point, I assembled and printed two packets of photographs for the Commission.

    In the “Texas Has Quality Horses, What Texas Needs Is Quality Management” packet, I included a photo of a posse of vet trucks cluster-plucked around a trainer’s barn at Lone Star on a typical morning. Drew Shubeck interrupted me and said “I take exception to the implication here! These vets are on the backside every day for routine maintenance of the horses!”

    Uh-huh. Since when does ‘routine maintenance’ of racehorses include incessant injections? It is madness.

    And why the flying fig newtons do state racing commissions allow trainers like Doug O’Neill to go on year after year breaking rule after rule (just a few of which I printed above) while keeping their licenses? Can we imagine what would happen to a professional football player with a corresponding list of infractions?

    My loathing for the guys who are ruining so many horses and ruining our sport knows few bounds. Again, I say nothing here which I will not say to a man’s face. Call me any time, Doug O’Neill. (512) 739-1759. Explain me your actions, and I’ll be happy to tell the world your side of the story.

    Linda

  • Ronnie The Limo Driver

    Doug O’Neil is exactly what is wrong with racing today. When is this guy going to starting owning his actions? Ray, keep the heat up on this guy.

  • Shake ‘em up

    They don’t call him (deleted) O’ Neil for nuthin’

  • ryan driscoll

    If Doug O’Neil was a football player, he would have to play for the Bengals.

  • Al

    According to PA statistics, Philly Park welcomed the guy with open arms and hard to get stalls to boot? Why, because he brought in 20 or 30 Cal horses or so that were ripe for the claiming trainers there? The guys a disgrace, a horse abuser and a wiseguy, so ban him from all states.

  • joe

    Owners who choose trainers with long rap sheets are the engine of evil in horse racing. O’Neill’s owners are a match and as disgusting as him and so is his vet(s), his brother/manager and others around him who know what’s going on.

    DO is not alone, and probably not even the worse trainer in Southern Cal, I believe that the Bible thumper is the worse. DO gets nailed often though with substances easy to test for.

  • tonyaz

    TVG’s Simon Brey is a relative to Micheal Bello. And TVG just loves (Doug) O’Neill who you guessed it, is O’Neill’s client. I suppose the CHRB will next tell the public that if you want us to run a clean “GAME” we will have to raise the take outs another 5% across the board on all wagers. Mullins might be (deleted), BUT he was dead honest and sincere when he said “only idiots bet on horses”. Is it possible that horse racing will ever be ethical and carry integrity? And the powers to be wonder why they cannot attract a new fan base. Maybe the gamblers are just smarter and feel the other forms of wagering available offer more of a chance if you will.

  • Rick

    @joe – who is the bible thumper?

  • jhbvta24

    #40: you make a lot of sense!! Bray, as an ex-trainer, would certainly steer his uncle-in-law to the supercharged barn.

    TVG, by the way, has their own drug cheat on board every day from Monmouth.

  • South of the Border

    Something is wrong with the sport when the same trainers and owners win or compete in the same races year in and year out. This is suppose to be a tough sport.

  • joe

    Horses are being abused and run into the ground after being loaded with drugs. Huge red flags continue to be ignored to fill races. Abuse and debauchery has become normal. Everyone is numbed to the plight of horses and moral decay keeps creeping in. Drugs are used and abused to cut corners, sell or exploit horses to death. Too many horses suffer a terrible end one way or another.

    Since the CHRB mission statement only addresses the financial welfare of bettors and state and not the welfare and safety of horses (and their riders), a private, adequately funded authority should be created in California and other 37 racing juridictions solely to protect the welfare and safety of race horses.

    Horses are without a voice and formal protection. Owners, trainers, jockeys, stable help have their organizations, horses are voiceless and have no authority looking out for them. Horses cannot depend on a few good, brave souls like Kristin Mulhall and underfunded rescues that do what they can with the few horses they can save and damage they can afford to repair. Such authority would protect horses against cruelty and preventable catastrophic injuries or slaughter, it would invest in equine medical records, welfare, no drugs, transparency and integrity.

    The killer is that protecting the welfare of horses would be excellent for the business of racing. It would attract and reward honest and caring owners and trainers and make racing marketable.

  • South of the Border

    #42, did he the TVG cheat ever pay the Storm Cat fee?

  • ben smith

    must have been a mistake

  • http://www.sctbrescue.org Caroline Betts

    This is important, and the comments concerning legal ramifications of drug violations are too.

    But this is, after all, California. Whether for cultural reasons or some other intangible which I’m too obtuse to understand – despite all such efforts to promote real change – I think that absolutely nothing will continue to happen, and indefinitely so.

    Which is too bad – for the horses, and for racing.

  • Concerned Observer

    The vets are licensed by the state. They need to be held responsible too.

    If a human patient dies, the Doctor is potentially responsible, why not a vet?

    I am on the backside every morning, the individual that is is doing the vet work is not a secret, so put their licenses’ in jeaprody and a lot of things will clear up fast. The shady trainers doing their own needle work will soon be looking for a new (and stupid) vet to sign their bogus paperwork.

    The vets need to have a little fear of god put into them.

  • joe

    Actually the killer is: those who control horses and racing refuse to take responsibility for the destruction they cause directly and indirectly.

    Michael Bello is a match.

  • markinsac

    Unless i’m wrong, here’s what happen to high-profile trainers: they get slapped on the wrist. Steve Assmussen is no different and SoCal’s Jeff Mullins is a abslolute joke. But, let’s face it, it happens in the olympics, baseball and most other sports, that if you don’t cheat, you can’t keep up with other cheaters. TVG frequently puts a mike on Doug O’Neil, who seems like a nice guy, the kind you’d like to go play pool with. It makes me sick, they totally look the other way when these infractions come about. I don’t see TVG or HRTV as reporters of the sport, instead they are smooze experts who hang aroung with the “IN” crowd. Look at how (O’Neill’s) horses run in the stretch. They are not fatigued at all!

  • stillriledup

    I like O’Neill’s picture on the front page of PR with the words “a tired act”. No sense moving this off to the side, leave it up there as the top story for a few days, why the rush to move it off to the side?

  • DickHertz

    Referring to an earlier post concerning a felony for race fixing when it involves wagering across State lines…look for a few trainers at Penn National to feel the wrath of this law in the coming months. We can only hope this will lead to other state CRIMINAL agencies to jump on the bandwagon since we know there are no Commissions in this country willing to do so.

  • Lexington

    To LJBroussard (#16, 19): Thank you, I appreciate you posting this info, I like to know the actual facts about the repeated violations. Seems like the an awful lot of violations (even for a big stable) with small penalties that don’t amount to much. Not much deterence there.

    To George (#24): I hope you have great success as your own trainer – and I empathize completely with your situation. It took me a long (and expensive) time to find a trainer with both skill and decency. I want my horses to be healthy and run clean, and I want a “level playing field” for them. I am dismayed by Biacone’s “cobra venom”, by O’Neill’s many violations, and all the other trainers of their ilk. Stick to your convictions. I hope you prosper.

  • Don

    LJBroussard Says: Mr. Ray, you the man.

    Except when he’s talking about the FOB?

    …………………………………………………………..

    Will these numbers sway the CHRB? http://i56.tinypic.com/n4xuhk.jpg

    Top 3 trainers by entries.

    HOL 4/21/2010 – 07/18/2010
    O’Neill 162
    Sadler 107
    Baffert 85

    SA 12/26/2009 – 04/18/2010
    Sadler 192
    O’Neill 176
    Baffert 154

    DMR 07/21/2010 – 09/08/2010
    O’Neill 136
    Sadler 104
    Baffert 91

    FPX 09/10/2009 – 09/28/2009
    O’Neill 78
    Lewis 24
    Solis 23
    Mitchell 23
    Stute 23

  • Rick

    In the LA Times article Doug O’Neill was quoted saying: “I don’t understand why something like this, an eighth-place finish in a small race and high test, couldn’t have been in house while not bringing negativity to the sport.”

    Doug – if you are so concerned with the reputation of the sport perhaps you should find a new profession.

  • Dublin

    He swore on his children’s eyes that he did not do it. Wow, that’s really tempting fate.

  • McGov

    It’s all an elaborate dog and pony show. The enforcement agencies know who the main culprits are but only react to the most sensational and ignore the rest. We need to take a page out of the European rule book and not allow any drugs period. If a horse needs so much help to race then they shouldn’t be racing. We need to get rid of the garbage for good. Our great sport is getting killed everyday by those who break or bend the rules. California has (had?) a three strikes your out policy for low level criminals…sending chocolate bar thieves to prison forever and yet sporting cheats pay a small fine and continue on after short suspensions,etc. These guys are making big bucks to cheat and everyday another trainer with integrity moves to the dark side because they can’t compete and are going broke. And we wait for an outside agency to bring attention to our dirty laundry(PETA)…let’s clean it ourselves!!!

  • woody

    Honestly, there are very few trainers out there who are actual “horsemen” or “horsewomen.” They may know how to organize and keep a barn running but most turn a blind eye and let the vets do their thing. The vets are raking it in and many trainers have no clue about what is being administered to their horses. And if they do know, they are being lied to by the vets about length of time in the horse’s system, etc. And yes, many know what’s going on and go to the paddock with their fingers crossed that they don’t get caught.

    I know it’s human to grab one guy and use him as an example and it looks like O’Neil is a pretty good example of what’s wrong with training, but he’s only one of hundreds of trainers doing the same thing.
    True and sad – it IS a business, not a sport here in the US. Until violations are punished with permanent removal or whatever, it will remain so.
    The pressure to get the horse to perform — well, if we weren’t spending $85 – $125 per day for training fees (and that’s JUST the training fees) and massive vet bills and outrageous vanning charges, maybe we wouldn’t feel so pressured to constantly get that money back in purses; maybe we wouldn’t turn a blind eye.

  • Tom M

    These kind of trainers will continue to exploit the system unless stiffer measures are taken against them. I know his assistant Leandro and I feel sorry for him being involved with these kind of issues. His barn is the largest around and he’s making a fortune with his training bills. Personally, I’m just about out of the owner business. $85 dollars a day plus shoes and vet bills are breaking me.

  • tom karpinski sr

    ok doug again you could alway’s appeal your reputation along with scott chaney’s negative
    opinon on the rule of racing or his imaginary mind set of what could the different outcome with all the distance left in the race.what if the fouled horse was allowed to come inside instead of being forced out 60 feet. Appeal to the court of appeals tvg’s judge judy ken roduff want to be and to be fair hrtv’s supeme court’s justice. jon white
    all the slow pitch questions of teaching our new customers and fans the way we support racing and on our conduct. so let’s just what was actully at stake in the big event that made our veteran gambler’s boooooooooo and curse and embrass our little squeeky and act out at the non call.
    1 rules of racing
    2 minus pool
    3 del mar’s leading riding tittle
    4 taking down a popular owners ambitionally placed green race horse
    5 a glib trainner’s remarks on all his positives and oppions on what and could have taken place. both scott and doug should stand up and admit they may have an error and we could all forgive but not forget also. i just can’t forget big brown and kent still waiting for him to stand up thats why you can’t forget. lets not forget the nyra stewards for there none call of a horse that bulled his way first turn foul was wide the rest of the way and be the first horse to be pulled up at a faster than gallop foul in the biggest horse race in the entire world. how can i forget. maybe i’ll just star drinking if i can’t forget.

  • tonyaz

    A bigger race Doug? How about that small derby prep race in Chicago? And while you are on the Ethics and Morality kick, how about speaking about what happened to that Filly up in Los Al, or How about what really HAPPENED TO BLACK JACK ATTACK.? Oh I know, I know, you are just the TRAINER and can’t be around your horses 24/7. People of good character surround themselves with the likes of the same. That black cloud that is following you, that is your conscious, or shall I say the results of you not having one, and I hope that black cloud releases all the dead horses and needles to fall directly on you!

  • B. C. Klette

    Ray:

    You’ve really struck a responsive chord here – many thanks for an unflinching article. This guy, Biancone and other “jump up trainers” we can all name deserve to be locked up. you may just get a movement started here, and I offer this suggestion – just as you have Good News Friday as a recurring (and sorely needed) focus, why not start a “Go Directly to Jail” corner where you regularly post egregious stuff like this? Leave them in this Virtual Prison until they have shaped up!

    With 60 comments, all agreeing with your conclusions, I beg you not to let this moment pass.

    Many thanks,

    BC

  • jhbvta24
  • s/s

    Email ” Dr_Arthur@chrb.ca.gov ” and express your disgust for this dbag.

  • Equine Avenger

    Guys like O’Neill’ Mullins, Biacone, etc wouldn’t have even been training 30, 40, 50 years ago. Instead, these (individuals) would have been on the other side of the fence looking to make the bucks any (deleted) way they could think of, while REAL horsemen were doing the training and actual handson work. Then one they figured out that they could parlay their (deleted) practices to even greater profits by infiltrating the trainer ranks and slowly push honest horsemen out of the game. With that comes surrounding ones self with barns full of employees that see nothing, hear nothing, know nothing, speak nothing and will do whatever they are told to do. And that’s where we basically are today.

  • Ratherrapid

    Horse racing on the horse side has a structural problem dating way back. We are permitting “trainers” individuals with the least stake in the game–they use our horses, our money, our energy and efforts, and tell us to stay out of their way. The tracks use trainers as “salespersons” to recruit new (unwitting) owners and fill races. The trainer system drives almost every owner out of the game eventually.

    Coming eventually

    the day of the shedrow webcam
    stalls assigned to owners instead of trainers
    trainers as employees instead of incompetent dictators
    mandatory training, care and turnout standards for helpless animals.

  • michael H

    the drama that O’Neill created at Los Alamitos when a low-level claiming horse from his barn broke down and died in a race after barely raising a gallop coming out of the starting gate. That horse, a filly named Burna Dette, had been claimed by O’Neill and owner Greg Guiol for $25,000 at Hollywood Park in late June and two starts later was dumped into a $2,000 claiming race at Los Alamitos.

    His explanation for the huge class drop by Burna Dette was: “It’s a business.”
    This is a class less guy and he always gets off with a few $$ fine.. He is not caring about the anomals or the good of calif racing…. HE needs a years ban !!! and next time life ban for sure!!!

    Keep the heat on the loose horse !!!!

  • LJBroussard

    To #54: This article and comments are about Doug O’Neill and the lack of quality horsemanship which corresponds to the rise of agribusiness model racing and the impending demise of our sport. So why the personal remark about my opinion on a different subject? If you’ve got something to say to me and the balls to say it, feel free to call. P’etre je fais du temps pour vous. Nobody gonna agree with everyone all the time, but when it comes to the realities of racing, Mr. Ray knows his stuff. Mr. Ray IS the man. GO, MR. RAY, GO!

    That said, not sure why you mentioned Sadler and Baffert but here are their California stats per CHRB at the tracks you mentioned, starting with Sadler:

    1. 04/01/05 Trainer JOHN W. SADLER is hereby suspended for THIRTY DAYS (30) (April 6, 2005, through May 5, 2005), and fined FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS ($5,000.00) for violation of California Horse Racing Board rules #1843.1 (a) (Prohibited Drug Substances), #1843 (c ) (Medication, Drugs and Other Substances), #1890 (Possession of Contraband), and #1530 (Cases Not Covered by Rules and Regulations). Further, said suspension is to be stayed provided subject does not have any Class I, II, or III violation for the remainder of the year. SA

    2. 08/01/05 LATS #005 Trainer JOHN W. SADLER, the trainer of the horse POINTE BIRDS which finished first in the third race on November 24, 2004, at Hollywood Park, is fined the sum of FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS ($500.00)* for violation of California Horse Racing Board rule #1843 (a)(d) (Medication, drugs, and other substances) and rule #1887 (Trainer to insure condition of horse – Phenylbutazone, Class VI). SA

    3. 11/05/05 OTTS #047 Trainer JOHN SADLER, who started the horses BRITE BETTY, winner of the first race at the Del Mar Thoroughbred Club on July 25, 2005, and HOMBRE RAPIDO, third place finisher in the second race at the Del Mar Thoroughbred Club on July 25, 2004, is fined the sum of THIRTY-FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS ($3,500.00)* pursuant to California Horse Racing Board rule #1887 (Trainer to Insure Condition of Horse) for violation of California Horse Racing Board rule #1843 (a) & (d) (Medication, Drugs, and Other Substances – Unauthorized Substance – Dextrorphan [Class IV]). DEL

    4. 06/07/06 HRTH #59 Trainer JOHN SADLER is fined FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS ($500.00)* for entering an ineligible horse on June 4, 2006, a violation of California Horse Racing Board Rule #1588 (Horse Ineligible to Start in a Race). HOL

    5. 07/05/06 HRTH #20 Trainer JOHN SADLER is fined THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS ($300.00)* for entering an ineligible horse on May 4, 2006, a violation of California Horse Racing Board rule #1588 (Horse Ineligible to Start in a Race). HOL

    6. 01/25/07 LATS #037 Trainer JOHN SADLER is fined FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS ($500.00)* for failure to properly report the gelding of the horse OUR PAPA JOE that ran in the sixth race at Santa Anita on January 13, 2007, which is a violation of California Horse Racing Board rule #1865 (Altering of Sex of Horse). SA

    7. 04/21/07 LATS #130 Trainer JOHN SADLER is fined ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS ($100.00)* for violation of California Horse Racing Board rules #1852 (Reporting to the Receiving Barn – Late) and #1894 (Duties of Trainer), on April 8, 2007. SA

    8. 06/16/07 HRTH #64 Trainer John Sadler, who started the horse CAT AND A HALF in the first race at Hollywood Park Race Track on November 11, 2006, having entered into a stipulated agreement with the California Horse Racing Board, is fined Seventy Five Hundred Dollars, ($7,500.00) and suspended for fifteen (15) days (July 1, 2007, thru July 15, 2007) pursuant to California Horse Racing Board Rule #1887 (Trainer to Insure Condition of Horse) for violation of California Horse Racing Board Rule #1843 (a) (d) (Medication, Drugs, and Other Substances –Hydroxyzine and Cetirizine). Pursuant to the terms of the stipulated agreement, the suspension is stayed pending the passage of one year from the date of this ruling, during which time the subject is placed on probation. HOL

    9. 07/21/07 DMTD #7 Trainer John Sadler is hereby fined the sum of two hundred dollars ($200.00)* for violation of California Horse Racing Board Rules #1852 (Reporting to the Receiving Barn – Late) and #1894 (Duties of Trainer) for the eighth race on July 5, 2007, and the second race on July 8, 2007 at Hollywood Park.

    10. 10/05/07 OTTS #006 Trainer JOHN W. SADLER, who started the horse TALE OF THE SCALE, winner of the third race at Del Mar Thoroughbred Club on August 3, 2007, is fined the sum of FOUR HUNDRED DOLLARS ($400.00)* pursuant to California Horse Racing Board rule #1877 (Trainer to Insure Condition of Horse) for violation of CHRB rules #1844 (c) (1) (Authorized Medication) and #1843 (a) & (c) (Medication, Drugs and Other Substances: Phenylbutazone in excess of permitted level – 6.18 mcg/ml).

    11. 03/28/08 LATS #174 Trainer JOHN SADLER is fined THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS ($300.00) for violation of California Horse Racing Board rule #1629 (Penalty for Late Declaration) for causing the late declaration of “Partywithlarryz” from the seventh race at Santa Anita Park on March 27, 2008.

    12. 05/18/08 HRTH #29 Trainer JOHN W. SADLER is fined THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS* ($300.00) pursuant to California Horse Racing Board rule #1853 (Examination Required –improperly shod) necessitating the late declaration of “Downtown Sanger” from the eighth race on Saturday, May 17, 2008. HOL

    13. 05/25/08 HRTH #42 Trainer JOHN SADLER is fined FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS* ($500.00) for failure to properly report the gelding of the horse “Evolution” which ran in the first race at Hollywood Park Race Track on April 20, 2008. This constitutes a violation of California Horse Racing Board rule #1865 (Altering of Sex of Horse). HOL

    14. 06/01/08 HRTH #70 Trainer JOHN SADLER is fined ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS ($100.00)* for violation of California Horse Racing Board rules #1852 (Reporting to Receiving Barn – late) and #1894 (Duties of Trainer) with his horse Sensational Score on May 14, 2008, at Hollywood Park. HOL

    15. 06/02/08 HRTH #111 Trainer JOHN SADLER is fined ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS* ($1,000.00) for failure to properly report the gelding of the horse “Swift Demand” which ran in the seventh race at Hollywood Park Race Track on June 14, 2008. This constitutes a violation of California Horse Racing Board rule #1865 (Altering of Sex of Horse) (Second Offense). HOL

    16. 12/27/08 LATS #001 Trainer JOHN SADLER, who worked the horse Tissy Fit for removal from the Veterinarian’s list at Santa Anita on October 30, 2008, is fined FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS* ($500.00) pursuant to California Horse Racing Board rule #1887 (Trainer to Insure Condition of Horse) for violation of California Horse Racing Board rule #1844 (C) (1) (Authorized Medication –Phenylbutazone in excess of permitted levels). SA

    17. 04/15/09 LATS #071 Trainer JOHN SADLER, pursuant to CHRB Rule 1887 (Trainer to Insure Condition of Horse) is issued four official warnings for violation of CHRB rules 1843 (Medication, Drugs and Other Substances), 1843.1 (Prohibited Drug Substances) and 1844 (Authorized Medication – stanozolol in excess of permitted level). SA

    18. 06/24/09 HRTH #057 Trainer JOHN SADLER is fined ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS ($100.00)* for violation of California Horse Racing Board rules #1852 (Reporting to Receiving Barn-Late) and #1894 (Duties of Trainer) with his horses “Remember Seattle” and “Chicks Rule” in the fourth race on June 12, 2009.

    19. 12/17/09 HRTH #035 Trainer JOHN SADLER, is fined TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS ($200.00)* for violation of California Horse Racing Board rules #1852 (Reporting to Receiving Barn-Late) and #1894 (Duties of Trainer) with his horse “Privilaged”[sic] in the fourth race on November 27, 2009.

    20. 12/28/09 LATS #001 Trainer JOHN W. SADLER, is fined TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS ($200.00) for violation of California Horse Racing Board rules #1852 (Reporting to Receiving Barn Late) and #1894 (Duties of Trainer) with his horse “Fort Fusion” in the seventh race on December 28, 2009. SA

    21. 08/25/10 DMTD # 46 Trainer John Sadler is fined TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS*($200) for violation of California Horse Racing Board rules #1852 (Reporting to Receiving Barn) and #1894 (Duties of Trainer) with his horse “Courtside” in the eighth race on August 11, 2010. DEL

    Linda

  • Dublin

    I’m sure he will clear this up being that he trains for Del Mar head of Marketing.( Great Friends Stable) Craig Dado. Using Del Mar publicity to clean up his mess like they kept the Los Al horse quiet. How many races did they win anyway?

  • Ratherrapid

    Ms. Broussard–based on the above recitation of the “rap sheet” of John Sadler, does the sport possibly need to differentiate between jay walking and axe murder? Does the sport possibly need to recognize there are reasons to try to keep horses running (to avoid the meat wagon, e.g.) where an excess of effort would possibly result in an egregiously minor violation such as bute overdose? And also, that these offenses were “caught” instead of ignored, and that punishment assessed seems rather appropriate to the crimes committed.

  • Jake

    Are these the same trainers that want to take over the TOC. That sounds a bit scary.

  • LJBroussard

    Ratherrapid, qu’est-ce que c’est ce que vous dites? I only mentioned John Sadler because another anonymous person such as yourself brought up his name. John Sadler is hardly the worst of them. Not even close.

    I wish Mr. Ray Paulick would do a story a week on the trainers who break the rules, get the bad tests, toss away horses like used Kleenex.

    Everyone who cares about racing should look hard at ALL the top trainers’ violation histories. Trainers who think the rules are made for lesser men — trainers running so many head that they fail to notice when one of their colts looses its cojones — trainers who make the same mistakes over and over again — these are not guys I trust to get ANYTHING right.

    Linda

  • Ratherrapid

    and, what is your solution to all this?

  • South of the Border

    What does J. Paul Reddam have to say about his trainer of Notional, Square Eddie and etc….

  • http://www.tranquilityfarmtbs.org Priscilla Clark

    Get the Big Picutre? Areyoutalkintome?

  • stillriledup

    to SOTB #74, Reddam is too busy charging 8 million percent interest to problem gamblers via Cash Call to notice.

  • Don Reed

    Doug O’Neill’s initials stand for – “Drug Overage? “Never!’

    (Sorry guys. I thouht the Yum Photo article/angle was Dul Dul Dull!)

  • Don Reed

    News Flash: AND they confiscated O’Neill’s Heisman Trophy!

    (Unfortunately, this being California, they then handed it back to Bush.)

  • Don Reed

    Since all that seems to happen when you are caught cheating is to be fined & then go back to the barn & cheat a little more…

    And if one or more trainers can simply pay the fines & whistle on their way back to work, so will, eventually, all of the others –

    Having seen that there’s no actual penalty for getting caught…

    And since California racing is stone-broke bankrupt & quite frankly, needs the cash, let’s simplify the process.

    The 2011 Fun Funding Horse Racing Stimulus Program (A Bipartisan, Civic-Minded Approach):

    1) All trainers, funded by owners, on the 1st of January will post $250,000 in their Individual Caught Cheating accounts –

    (Also known as “Individual Recidivist Accounts,” or “IRAs”)

    Deposited with the state of California racing authorities.

    2) Drug “testing” continues as it has in previous years.

    3) Then, when trainers are caught cheating, their nano-fines are automatically deduced from the $250,000.

    That’s it. An embarrassing headline or two in the Paulick Report might sting a little, but hey – ya wanna know sumthin?

    It all blows over in a week or two.

    Then trainers continue doing business as usual, unhampered by the possibility of actual suspensions or physical arrest for larceny/fraud (fixing races via drugs, etc.).

    4) AHEM. Since the unmolested fine money is JUST SITTING THERE, California state testers will, naturally, be tempted to decrease the permissible levels of every known drug to one micro-micro-nano-gram per billion parts.

    Miraculously, the number of trainers nailed & fines incurred will tend to increase.

    Now, don’t forget, this will all be very good for business.

    But every federal & state program needs a safety net.

    So with their customary foresight that has inspired the public’s ever-increasing confidence in their ability to govern –

    When the original $250,000 has been confiscated, the state then can increase the nanos/per/math-number ratio so that, miraculously, as the year goes by, announced findings of drug overages will taper off.

    This reversal of trend should occur each year sometime in late August or early September.

    But rest assured, overage announcements will be a thing of the past by the time that we commence advertising the Breeders’ Cup.

    5) People just LOVE trophies. They thrive on recognition.

    They sing “That’s what I’m talkin’ about!” in the restrooms in between winning consecutive races.

    Respect is music to their waxy, hairy ears.

    So in conjunction with the Voluntary-Pay-As-You-Go-Cheat-&-Fine system recommended above, let’s set up annual trophy awards for the following categories:

    A) Most Detected Trainer;

    B) Most Detected Horse; &

    C) Most Respected Owners (of the respective detected trainers & horses).

    Hire out the same hall where they host the Oscars, or the restrooms in Santa Anita where they dance in between winning consecutive races, & hire a band.

    Drink & be merry & pass the sherry.

    And don’t forget to test the sherry.

  • purplesky

    Why would a nice catholic boy do something like that.

  • js

    Comparing a trainer, such as O’Neill, to a trainer from Japan, is absurd. The lack of character and morals isn’t just about how O’Neill treats the horses, it’s about a fundamental LACK OF DECENCY!

    That is the TRUE UNDERLYING ISSUE IN THIS INDUSTRY!

  • Jake

    I really think that there is a certain group of owners that feel having an edge helps their chances. Now we all know who they are. You can’t change it.

  • Equine Avenger

    Perhaps its time to start publicly posting the names of these owners as ones who prefer hiring these “do whatever it takes” types. Why just let the trainers get all the headlines.

  • stillriledup

    Just remember that its an owners game not a bettors game. The bettors want the cheats exposed, and punished harshly and repeat offenders kicked out of the game, or jailed, or both. Problem is that its an owners game and if you come down incredibly hard on trainers, the owners suffer too in some way. Owners want to run horses a lot, as much as they can, and a few drugs will help them do that. If you cleaned up the game and kicked out all the cheaters and the game was just honest trainers on oats/hay/spring water, horses would not run as much, especially the claiming horses. Owners need to run, that’s why trainers get wrist slaps and its business as usual. Its an owners game, the bettors don’t matter.

  • Albany

    Interesting post #83. Owners need to be publicly identified and held accountable as much as a trainer – and I am talking about all owners of any trainer that is breaking the rules. These are the ones putting pressure on the trainers to deliver.

  • Cindy Trejo

    As a journalist, I would hope that you had the courage to include the full spectrum of facts.  After receiving the 15 day suspension at Hollywood Park, Doug, instead of continuing to run under an Assistant Trainer, as others might have done, focused on his horses and owners.  They took fresh, healthy, happy horses to Del Mar, and won the meet.  Maybe, just maybe, that has some bearing on why owners continue to retain Doug as their trainer…he puts the horses first.

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