Congressional hearing: witness list a stacked deck

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Six of the nine witnesses invited to speak at Monday’s hearing of the United States House of Representatives Committee on Energy and Commerce Subcommittee on Health have signed a letter supporting federal legislation to ban race-day medication in horses, and one of the remaining three has written a book that charges widespread cheating in horse racing through the use of drugs. It is a stacked deck in favor of having Congress establish national uniform rules that do not permit race-day medication and set tougher penalties for rules violators than currently exist.

The hearing will begin at 9:30 a.m. Monday at Unionville High School in Kennett Square, Pa. It is in the home district of Rep. Joe Pitts, chairman of the subcommittee and a co-sponsor of the Interstate Horseracing Improvement Act that Kentucky Rep. Ed Whitfield sponsored. Sen. Tom Udall of New Mexico has sponsored a similar bill in the U.S. The Interstate Horseracing Improvement, filed just before the 2011 Kentucky Derby, would ban the presence of any performance-enhancing drugs in racehorses on the day they race.

Following are the witnesses scheduled to appear in two separate panels:

Panel 1

Mr. Gary Stevens
Retired Jockey
Jockey Hall of Fame
Sierra Madre, CA

Mr. Arthur B. Hancock, III
Thoroughbred Owner
Paris, KY

Mrs. Gretchen Jackson
Thoroughbred Owner
West Grove, PA

Mr. George W. Strawbridge, Jr.
Thoroughbred Owner
Wilmington, DE

Panel 2

Mr. Glenn Thompson
Trainer
Colts Neck, NJ

Mr. Kenny McPeek
Trainer
Lexington, KY

Dr. Kathryn Papp, DVM
Hillcrest Meadow Equine Services, LLC
Harrisburg, PA

Mr. Gregory L. Ferraro
Professor and Director
Center for Equine Health
University of California School of Veterinary Medicine
Davis, CA

Dr. Cornelius E. Uboh, Ph.D.
PA Equine Toxicology and Research Center
Department of Chemistry
West Chester University

Stevens, Jackson (and her husband, Roy), Hancock (and his wife, Staci), Strawbridge, McPeek, and Ferraro all have signed a letter of support for the Interstate Horseracing Improvement Act. The Jacksons, Hancocks, and Strawbridge were the first supporters of the bill, and they now have a list of 415 individuals who also have signed on.

That list of supporters includes such names as multiple Eclipse Award-winning owner and breeder and racetrack owner Frank Stronach; Hall of Fame trainers Neil Drysdale, Jonathan Sheppard, and newly elected Roger Attfield; numerous owners, including Barry Irwin, whose Team Valor captured the 2011 Kentucky Derby with Animal Kingdom, and Dogwood Stable’s Cot Campbell, recipient of the 2011 Eclipse Award of Merit; a large group of breeders, among them B. Wayne Hughes of Spendthrift Farm, Case and Robert Clay of Three Chimneys, and Fred and Joseph Seitz of Brookdale Farm; and veterinarians, bloodstock agents, and consignors, including Coolmore adviser Dr. Demi O’Byrne.

Thompson, who will appear during the second panel on Monday, is the author of a book, “The Tradition of Cheating at the Sport of Kings,” that alleges without naming names the illegal and widespread use of performance enhancing drugs by veterinarians and trainers.

The support of federal legislation will likely be music to the ears of many subcommittee members, some of whom participated in a June 2008 hearing in Washington, D.C., in the aftermath of a Kentucky Derby, where the winner, Big Brown, raced on then-legal anabolic steroids, and the runner-up, Eight Belles, fractured both front legs after the finish and was euthanized.

“Horseracing is a $40 billion industry that generates roughly 400,000 domestic jobs nationwide,” the subcommittee’s hearing notice reads. “Many question whether the widespread use of performance enhancing drugs on race day is threatening the viability, safety and integrity of the sport, and especially if it is a threat to the safety and well being of the jockeys.

“In 2008, the Energy and Commerce Committee held a hearing on the issue of performance enhancing drugs in horseracing and received assurances that the industry was implementing reforms to protect horses and jockeys. On April 30, members will review what reforms, if any, have been made in the horseracing industry to protect jockeys, horses, and the integrity of the sport.”

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  • voiceofreason

    “signed a letter supporting federal legislation to ban race-day
    medication in horses, and one of the remaining three has written a book
    that charges widespread cheating in horse racing through the use of
    drugs”

    HOW DARE THEY! IT’S A CONSPIRACY!

  • James Staples

    IT LOOKS LIKE A HOOS HOO OF AMERCIAN T-BRED HORSE RACE N!!!…SHAKE RATTLE & LETS ROLL BABY!!!…

  • Nick Kling

    Neil Drysdale? Roger Attfield? Jonathon Sheppard? Gary Stevens? Ken McPeek?

    What is WRONG with these men?  Don’t they know Rick Violette, President of the NY Horsemen’s Association, calls withholding raceday lasix “borderline animal abuse?”

    I’m shocked, SHOCKED.

    (insert extreme sarcasm)

  • Jimculpepper

    Forewarned but not forearmed, with no excuse.  No stone left unturned to justify the oxygen that congress wastes, especially this year.  Even so, its a good issue, even if not the right regulatory body.  The head horse clowns had best cut a quick, clean, and eclectic deal while they still (might) have a little time.  My great grandfather, Christian Starnes and his twin brother rode, respectively with the 8th Tennessee and Forests Cavalry during the war between the states, literally betting their very ass on mounts that received None of the contemporary newts eyes and toad foreskins or other witches brew needed(?) today.

  • equine

    It is amazing how the industry has allowed salix to be the villan here. Yet by putting Thompson on the panel they add validity to the perception of widespread cheating by owners and trainers using illegal and dangerous drugs in race horses. Mr. Thompson just found a marketing strategy for his book more advantageous than a million dollar advertising campaign. Where is the credibility and accountability here? Does he back up his claims with letters to racing authorities citing specific dates, horses. names and the name of the trainer? If not, why should he be even on a panel discussing racing integrity?

  • Meyer1127

    If folks had taken care of business there would be no need for a hearing.

  • Tom Bower

    Say goodbye to 50% of the industry (i.e. 50% of the tracks will close, 50% of the farms will close and be developed into housing, 50% of the stallions and mares will have no use, 50% of the workers will have to find new jobs, 50% of Keeneland’s September, November and January sales will be eliminated.  The blue bloods do not like the fact that someone can buy a yearling for $1,000 and then win a $1 million race.  They want that race.  The blue bloods want to turn the industry into the European model where no one makes money and it is just a seasonal hobby for the rich. 

  • LongTimeEconomist

    Welcome to the real world of Congress. Congressional hearing witnesses are always a stacked deck. The committee chair controls the agenda and who will be invited to testify.

  • Change is Needed

    The lower 50% of racing in this country should go away.  The lower 50% tier really  is not quality racing and racing’s growth in popularity is with ensuring the major circuits succeed.  Nobody is going to miss Turfway Park, Sam Houston and the Turf Paradise’s of the world if they go bye bye.  Yes, it stings that jobs will be lost but there needs to be a market correction in the type of racing we have in this country.   Why are tracks even in existence if they struggle to top a million in handle each night?  Doesn’t make good business sense to me.

  • Stanley inman

    So true,
    Keep repeating this mantra
    This is the quickest and best strategy
    to get this sport’s health back
    The bottom is what keeps us from
    Moving forward
    Just like in any organization
    Let’s start culling tracks
    By forming a league around core values
    That will sustain the sport over long term.

  • Ship37

    Guess Ken McPeek must have had a change of heart about meds since getting this $1,000 fine in 2005 from the Illinois Racing Board: UPON RECEIPT OF A REPORT FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF ILLINOIS AT CHICAGO ANIMAL FORENSIC TOXICOLOGY LABORATORY, THE OFFICIAL TESTING AGENCY OF THE ILLINOIS RACING BOARD, THAT TEST SAMPLE #729271 OBTAINED FROM THE HORSE EXCEPTIONAL RIDE FOLLOWING ITS FIRST-PLACE FINISH IN THE EIGHTH RACE AT ARLINGTON PARK ON JUNE 4, 2005, REVEALED THE PRESENCE OF DICLOFENAC IN HIS URINE SPECIMEN.

  • Stanley inman

    Hey ray,
    You sooooo funny
    Stacked deck?
    This sport is dying because of stacked decks
    The HBPA and horsemen groups
    have been providing all the marked cards
    That have allowed them
    and their track partner’s BUSINESS practices
    to squeeze all the life out of the SPORT

  • Satish Sanan

    The so called  leadership of our industry has had many an
    opportunity to fix this problem but we have failed miserably – we have our
    selves to blame. I do not like government involvement in any business but now we
    may not have a choice. So, if this is inevitable and the Interstate Horse
    Racing Act is going to be amended, we must to consider this an opportunity and
    try and fix the other major problems in our business; namely the Revenue Model.
    By fixing the revenue model, we can return more to racing, purses, reduce
    take-out, improve marketing and even take care of the welfare of animals and
    jockey’s. Less racing days, lesser number of tracks, improved racing product
    may actually enhance the handle, purses and the quality of racing. For the first time ever, Hong Kong handled more money on
    races than America, $11.3 billion vs. $10.7, in only 83 race-days. We need to
    look at the positives – it is not all doom and gloom.

  • Jasonfeldman

    The fact that this panel includes a delusional Jesus freak such as Glenn Thompson should be ample notice to all that the entire proceeding is a sham and unworthy of any credibility whatsoever. This is a guy who wanted to hold hands and pray for the healing of a horse that broke down after he sent it out knowing it was sore. Read his book-I did-it is a work of pure fantasy and fiction laced with him finding Jesus.

    What a colossal waste of taxpayer dollars. If the industry wants something to be embarassed about….this will be it. These people aren’t truthful or accurate representatives of anything. Maybe Glenn Thompson will hold hands with The Jackson’s and pray.

  • Watcher

    Perhaps Ray would like it if the committee invited Richard Dutrow.

    Oh wait, Dutrow was invited to the last congressional hearing on this and he called in sick the day he was to have testified.

     

  • ManuelB

    Everyone should take a step back and take a breather. Lots of hot air flowing around. The problem, as has been mentioned above, is that the model is completely untenable. On the one hand each state regulates its own part of the business. On the other, interstate betting is an integral element of the current business model. How can one say that the Federal Government has no role to play? The business needs uniform regulations if it is to survive and since the state racing commissioners are not prepared to provide them, what else is left?

  • http://twitter.com/degeneratevern Horse Shirt

    Suffolk Downs would be an excellent site for a new Walmart.  They could easily replace the bribes East Boston polls currently receive from the race track.  A win- win for all, especially the sore horses.

  • kyle

    Well..c’mon guys…this is a sham. Glen Thompson is no Jose Canseco. How has he earned any credibility?  I will be interested in hearing what Hancock and McPeek have to say. But where are Violette and racing’s most prominent trainer, Mr. 1000%? I would be nice to have an actual discussion and not just a dog and pony show. I know….that’s another world and another country.

  • Stanley inman

    Mr. Saman,
    Your observations about improving the sport
    “less racing dates, lesser number of tracks, improved racing product”
    make great sense;
    How would our representatives (horsemen groups)
    Vote in collective bargaining with tracks on these issues.

    1. Tracks are for less racing dates;
    Hbpa? ( year round racing)
    2. Fewer tracks,
    Most racino’s would gladly end racemeets
    Hbpa? (Will lobby to keep that from happening)
    3. Improved racing product
    Tracks understand value of a “stand alone” product
    Hbpa? (redistribute stakes purses to overnight claiming races when purse account is short)

    The HBPA is killing us.
    Fewer tracks

  • Ebehringer

    In a perfect world salix and other drugs would be entirely banned in Graded events, and a uniform national standard would be adopted for lesser races. The various states will never aggree on a uniform standard so if it takes a national regulation so be it.

    Congress has inserted themselves into baseball, they certainly have the right to step into horse racing due to interstate wagering, so lets get on board, support this ban universally and let the chips fall where they may. I suspect it will have the opposite effect of what breeders fear and horse welfare types hope for, there will be more horses bred to fill the void of those that retire early or run less due to medication needs, and more unwanted horses, but in the long term it will improve the breed by taking the unfit horse out of the stallion pool and to a lesser extent the mare pool.

    A simpler solution would be banning meds in all graded races and allowing in claimers but our fearless leaders seem unwilling to act on their own so if it takes congress so be it.

  • Barry Irwin

    Nick, you crack me up.

  • jorge

    Kenny McPeek, is going to speak anti meds? U gota luv it

  • jorge

    Better pull McPeek’s PP’s Nick before you get on your high horse. I know you know how to get on new JC website. He looks like the answer to Who does not belong on this list. Don’t see any Motion, Mott, McGaughey, Mandella, Pletcher, Tagg, Hennig. Trainers with some credibility

  • Satish Sanan

    I agree with you completely. We need to get rid of HPBA and control our game and destiny.

  • Barry Irwin

    Satish, while I concur 100 percent with your conclusions, I wonder if anything will come of the initiative for Federal intervention. It seems to me that nothing is likely to happen this year because of the national election. Perhaps something could come next year. The real stumbling block with racing right now is that it behooves the HBPA and the Owners to get on the same page. Without their unity, this sport will remain in trouble and continue the inevitable decline. Horsemen, if they want to have a viable game, must give up raceday meds. Owners, if they want to make this happen, must let their trainers know where they stand. In the main, most trainers want drugs and most owners don’t. We need to get on the same page so that we can move forward. Time is running out.

  • Barry Irwin

    There are more conflicts of interest among leaders in horse racing than any congressman has ever even dreamed of!

  • michael

    Animal abuse is to know that horses bleed to some degree or another and yet no attempt to weed out and breed out the bad bleeders. Oh wait…the breeders have no problem breeding fast milers at the expense of sturdy horses with stamina.

    As a matter of fact, 2 year olds are judge how fast they can run 1 or 2 furlongs? WHAT NONSENSE IS THAT?

    No wonder they kept shortening and shortening races to accomodate these INFERIOR HORSES. There are more G1 sprint today than ever….and yet the industry kept hyping horses WHO THEY KNOW cannot get 10 furlongs just because they have high beyer speed figs at shorter distances.

  • mike

    Too many without a clue of what the people who bet all the money want have the podium, racings number one problem. The clean up the game BS is much more fiction than fact, not that there isn’t many issues which racing must address.

  • mike

    Yeah, the Federal Government needs to be involved,BRILLIANT.Those clowns nearly allowed the world to go bankrupt on their watch.

  • Sinking Ship

    LOL, and maybe sing a few choruses of “Kum Ba Yah.”

  • michael

    There is NOTHING TO DISCUSS….start breeding better horses…..stop depending of a drug to make a horse run….there nothing humane about that practice…..

  • Glenn Thompson

    Jason, I am a Christian and just for you, I said a prayer to Jesus and ask if the two of you could meet real soon. Sounds to me like the two of you need to sort a few things out. Good Luck With That!!

  • Skvescovo

    Good job Tom!

  • Skvescovo

    They want us to be like the europeans….don’t they eat horses?

  • Skvescovo

    These idiots must be voted out of office …I think Udall will have a tough time winning in NM again.

  • Angie

    I am glad someone is trying to stand up and do the right thing. Most people don’t want more government control, but seeing our own industry and our own industry leaders and organizations have done nothing about it, there is no choice. Stacked deck?? Do you want to see the list of who said no to testifying in favor of this or was threatened into not testifying and who threaten them? There’s your real story.

  • kyle

    They’re going to give this guy a forum? In case anybody missed it he just publicly expressed a death wish for poster Jasonfeldman, who might not be Ghandi, but he’s not going to be testifying before a Congressional committee.

  • kyle

    I think editing the above post, especially after Thompson’s reply, was ill-advised. The tone and substance of Thompson’s reply goes toward validating Feldman’s characterization.

  • Glenn Thompson

    Kyle, I didn’t know you had to die to come to know Christ.

  • RayPaulick

     This forum is not designed for people to question someone else’s spiritual or religious beliefs, and especially not for name-calling in that regard.

  • BuckyinKentucky

    Satish,

    You were one of our leaders when you sat on the NTRA Board weren’t you?

    Don’t blame the HBPA they do much good with taking care of the workers and they didn’t make this mess. We all did.

    Hopefully middle ground is found and we can all move forward.

  • Glenn Thompson

    Kyle, I earned my credability by standing up and telling the truth about what is going on at every track across the country. Changes need to be made and I am a trainer that is willing to say it like it is. I claimed in my book that 85% of trainers and vets are giving illegal drugs on race day. Since my book came out in November, not one vet or trainer has publicly denied what I am saying to be true. NOT ONE!!! A little odd dont you think?? Trust me if they could they would but they know its the truth and as I said in the book, they will not fight me on this, they know they will lose. I love horses and I love racing and want what is best. We need to make some changes and things will start to heal. Lets all work for that together and stop the bickering.

  • kyle

    Oh, that’s not what you were implying? Is this the kind of truth-telling we can expect from you when you testify? Yes, I inferred that’s what you meant from what you wrote and from the your “tone.” The tone I inferred juxtaposing what you wrote against what you could have wrote – you know – a Christian reply. Such as: “Mr. Feldman, I am a Christian and I take my religion and its tenets seriously. I’m offended by your characterization and pray you might rid yourself of your bitterness. I stand by everything I wrote in my book and plan to testify truthfully before Congress.”

  • Jasonfeldman

    Your hypocritical song and dance is getting old. I suggest you and your utopian fantasy brethren that think Lasix is evil simply stop running your horses on it. Among my portfolio are two hard hitting sound older geldings that do bleed and are competing successfully by using an inexpensive, regulated and reported therapeutic medication. Your attempts to ban it are laughable. Go target something that makes sense.

  • kyle

    There is a demarcation between the spiritual and the religious and the unhinged.

  • Frank L.

    Tom Bower —

    Your right on target!  You’ve stated what I have
    been saying for the last 5 years.  I’m glad there is at least
    one person out there that can see through the charade.

    Med’s were introduced to help the little guy (lesser
    horse) out — buying a horse for 1000 and winning big.  They
    did EVEN the playing field — that’s why “big money” is
    complaining, Ref: Team Valor. Not only will you be seeing small
    tracks close, but, small owners and breeders close up shop. 
    Just what the big boys – Team Valor; Winstar; Dogwood, etc. —
    want, reduced competition. 

    In Europe racing is the Sport of KINGS, Kings, and
    that for a reason.  It fits America now, since the bottom line
    of the U.S. has changed from, (past)everyone has a chance vs.
    (now)the big and rich monopolize (Europe).  This “big and rich
    monopolize” attitude/ideology of Europe surfaces in their racing
    programs — eliminating geldings from entering their big important
    races. It will happen here also once the media gets behind it, as
    will the dictatorship that is forming in this country. This
    med’s/Lasix controversy has to do with a power grab, NOT leveling the
    playing field — a level playing field is what you have now,
    although gamblers, true to their attitudes, don’t understand!!

    Early Americans broke free from the yoke of Europe,
    and prospered. Today, Americans can’t wait to get back to their
    shackles controlled by Europe — and they deserve what’s coming.
    The “One World Government” cannot succeed without “One World
    Sports”. Sports is the diversion necessary to keep the meaningless
    people (that means YOU) occupied. It is apparent that Horse Racing
    is to be one of the “One World Sports”, and that’s no honor!!

  • kyle

    Ray, where is my response. he can’t accuse me of mis-interpreting his words without you letting me respond.

  • Garrett Redmond

    C’mon, he did not express a”death wish” for anyone.  The common term, “a Come to Jesus meeting”, is generally used to describe a situation where somebody in charge calls in a subordinate for a performance review.  The boss’s advice is usually, “Shape-up or ship-out”. A death threat only to job security.

    In this instance, Thompson is wishing only that Mr.Jasonfeldman
     will find Jesus: a common wish of evangelists for us atheists!

    Anyway, Mr. J. hardly needs intercession.  From my own brief encounter with him, I say he is more than quick to throw crap at anyone who dares disagree with his views.

  • RayPaulick

     You’ll get over it.

  • kyle

    Glenn,
    How about some names and the names linked to specific instances? If I missed the specifics I apologize. But making broad accusations without giving people the chance to respond is not credible.

  • kyle

    Screw you, Ray. There was nothing wrong with the substance of that response.

  • Concerned Observer

    The scary thing here is that Congress almost never holds a hearing until after the disaster,……. after the Interstate bridge fell, after Wall street Collapsed, after Katrina, after the BP gulf oil spill…..etc…etc.

    Lets hope these are not “after the death of the horseracing industry” hearings.

  • kyle

    Of course he did Garrett. Ray has taken a post of mine down that would have illuminated things for the naive like yourself.

  • Nick Kling

     Jorge,

    You mean credibility like Hall of Famers Drysdale, Sheppard, and Attfieled, who signed the letter supporting the bill?

  • Ridindirty3

    WOW…It’s a SUPERCOMITTEE!  PROBLEM SOLVED!

  • Jasonfeldman

    They haven’t publicly denied it because as of yet they still haven’t stopped laughing at it. If you think that people endorse your little essay on training horses through prayer because they haven’t publicly condemned it, it’s because their too busy WINNING !!!

  • Sinking Ship

    One of the best examples of an horsemen’s group with incredible clout is the one at Parx in Pa., it controls so much money that it effectively suffocates any efforts to change the way things are done in that state.

  • Jasonfeldman

    I apologize for the perceived name calling Ray, but seriously, did you read his “book” ? The fact that any committee involving the future of our business would want to validate anything he says by his inclusion is blasphemous.

  • kyle

    Listen, I had my doubts Thompson is smart enough to execute a double entendre, but in his response to me he doesn’t acknowledge that it could be taken both ways. So, I can only conclude he’s not being forthright.

  • RayPaulick

     I think it’s preposterous and insulting to honest horsemen to make a blanket statement that 85% of trainers/vets are giving illegal drugs. Someone makes that kind of statement they’d better have something to back it up.

  • Satish Sanan

    If you would like an open and  constructive dialogue, then please reveal your real name.
    Yes I was and still am on both the NTRA and the Breeders Cup Boards. My views
    are well known at the Board level and otherwise on critical issues facing our
    industry including revenue/business model, marketing our sport, medication and animal
    welfare etc. You need to understand the By Laws and the governance model of the
    NTRA board, where HPBA, TRA and the TOC have a veto power over certain issues.
    Positive initiatives of this nature have been blocked by the HPBA and their brethren
    in the past.  I love this industry, I am
    passionate about what I say and do and I put my money where my mouth is.

     

  • Jasonfeldman

    Ray, if you email me I will send you my copy. I will say I never laughed so hard as when I read it, and I bet you will too !!!! I actually feel bad for the guy !!!

  • voiceofreason

    Due to the Freedom of Information Act, every major track will distribute medication overages and penalties. I did this once for Florida (Gulfstream and Calder) and nearly every single name is mentioned. Big trainers and small. Winners and losers.

    We can’t go back to arguing whether most trainers use meds. It’s moot, we know. The question should focus on why our industry has failed to regulate (or care). They give Eclipse Awards to the very best of ‘em. We are corrupt, head-to-toe.

    Now you wanna argue digits and percentages? PUH-LEEZE.

  • voiceofreason

     ’bout time.

  • Allynn

    say it ain’t so???…but it is…ty…

  • Glenn Thompson

    Kyle, did you read the book? Those people that I made the accusations about have had 5 months to respond and have failed to do so. I challenged Ray to talk with some of his friends that are trainers and vets and find out the truth. He claims to want to clean up the sport and investigate problems we have with racing but his job concerning this topic has been pathetic. He should have the resources to know the truth and if he doesn’t then he is a very bad reporter. If he does know the truth and is choosing not to bring it into the light, that makes him worse. I also challenged him to find me a track vet to stand up and say I’m wrong, He didn’t. As far as Jason goes, I feel he is just a bitter, unhappy man, I feel sorry for him. Kyle, read the book first and then comment. I do not believe I mentioned Jesus one time in the whole book, I simply said I was a Christian and prayed for  the horses.

  • Allynn

    WHAT ABOUT ALL THE CHEATERS/REPETERS???…BUBBA…

  • Ridindirty3

    Apparently nobody……except Jack….. really took it seriously when he gave his chemical warfare testimony!

  • kyle

     Thompson claims “85% of trainers and vets are giving illegal drugs on raceday.” He doesn’t write “have given” at one time or another. He doesn’t give one specific name and instance as far as I know. Not only that, but you seem to be conflating overages of legal meds with the use of illegal drugs. Plus, even the violations you cite, which I would guess mostly involve legal medication, weren’t necessarily the result of raceday application. FYI, I’m in favor or eliminating raceday meds. I just don’t think ends justify means. And even though I think the game would be better in the long run by being as clean as possible I don’t believe trampling the truth is the way to get there.

  • kyle

    Send it to me and I’ll read it. I’ll correct anything I’ve said if I was wrong. The address is longshotalert at yahoo.

  • Allynn

    “TARGET SOMETHING THAT MAKE SENSE”…AMEN…LIKE CHEATERS/REPETERS???…

  • RayPaulick

     Glenn, have mentioned the 85% figure to trainers and vets I know. They looked at me like I was from Mars. I talk with people on the major circuits…can’t speak for some of the fringe tracks, where enforcement and security may be more lax. Why don’t you privately suggest to me the name of a vet who will confirm your allegations. You have email address.

  • Allynn

    AMEN TO THAT ONE!!!…

  • Allynn

    fat cats want it ALL BABY…”ain’t no way to delay that trouble coming everyday”…A @SS WHIP N!!!…

  • kyle

    Point taken. However, I do think there is a big, if somewhat subtle difference, between what Van Berg said and what Thompson suggests and alleges. I took Van Berg to be saying that chemicals had become endemic in the training process. Thompson claims near universal cheating.

  • voiceofreason

     I can’t argue with that Kyle. Agreed.

  • voiceofreason

     The industry as a “hole”…

  • Michael

    I cannot believe I am reading this. Are you guys saying that the only way that John Henrys can compete against the Green Monkeys is to drug them?

    Wow….cannot wait for this industry to get regulated…

  • Barry Irwin

    Meds for horses was NOT introduced to help the so-called little guy.

    I relish competition, which is why I want a level playing field.

    There is no place for drugs in human racing and there not be drugs in horse races. If a human being uses Lasix and tests positive, he is suspended for doping. Yes, you read that correctly: doping. Same with clenbuterol, which is classified by WADA (World Anti-Doping Association) as a steroid.

    Americans need to kick the drug habit and join the rest of the civilized world when it comes to sport. If you are drugging your animals just to get them around the hoop, that is NOT sport.

  • http://Bellwether4u.com James Staples

    when the LIME E’s ruled amercia if one got caught owning a race Horse without owning land they took the Horse away & LOCKED their @SS UP…CRAP like that won’t happen over here again n our time…THE FAT CATS better wake up cause u ain’t going to run the REGULAR FOLKS OFF…BOOK THAT BABY!!!…

  • Oky

    Congress did such a great job scaring baseball the NL MVP tested positive for performance enhancing drugs last year. They also have already lost a perjury case to Barry Bonds an are on their way to losing another one to Roger Clemens. It is a shame that this hearing will be a sham that is designed to scold the game into submission rather than a meaningful attempt to understand the issues.

  • michael

    More like the fat cats are scared their multi-million thoroughbreds wannabes COULDN’T RUN WORTH A LICK WITHOUT DRUGS…..

  • Jasonfdman

    I’m neither bitter nor angry. I just recognize a low percentage trainer living complete denial when I see one. Your love letter to Monmouth Park essay proves this. Praise Jesus.

  • Equine Avenger

    Jack Van Berg stated that “it’s like chemical warfare” in horse racing today. If papa Jack doesn’t know what’s going on in the industry, then who does?

    It’s far past time that we put these cheats, abusers and clueless(those who only know the needle) out of business and bring back truly knowledgeable ethical horsemen. The horses deserve better. Keep fighting for them!

  • Dr. Bo Landry

    Mr. Irwin and other owners-
    I would like to share my thoughts on lasix. I have practiced exclusively on racehorses for 15 years and have taken care of many of you and your fellow blogger horses.
    My list of clients include Shug McGaughey, Graham Motion, Todd Pletcher, Steve Margolis, Nick Zito and many others.
    I believe the use of Lasix is not only appropriate but good medicine. We know that the thoroughbred race horse, due to his unique cardiovascular/ pulmonary physiology is prone to episodes of EIPH. If I can in any way prevent even one bleeding episode than I am doing my job, not only for the horse but his connections as well. Studies have proven that Lasix helps ( I say helps because horses can still bleed with lasix) prevent EIPH.
    Maybe here’s another way to put it. If you had a family history of heart disease, your physician would prescribe you to watch what you eat, exercise, and possibly take some medication for high cholesterol or high blood pressure… He is not going to say, hey let’s see if you have a heart attack, and if you do, then we’ll do something about it.
    That’s my logic with the use of lasix. I try to be proactive and practice preventive medicine Denying these athletes a proven medical advancement is not only illogical, but borderline cruel.

    I have practiced exclusively on racehorse

  • Grarick

     Dr. Bo, you are “protectively” medicating something that by your own admission is a natural process in horses. I’ll bet your kids are on ritalin, too. Get back to me in another 15 years. Apparently the first 15 haven’t taught you enough.

  • Tinky

    Has it occurred to you, Bo, that when you “hold” bad bleeders with Lasix, you are allowing them to perform in a manner that they would unlikely be able to without medication, and that they are therefore welcomed into the breeding pool (on false pretenses) and quite possibly passing on a genetic defect as a result?

    Have you administered Lasix to horses without any evidence of prior bleeding? (That’s a rhetorical question, of course, as you wouldn’t be working for big outfits if the answer was “no”.) Do you believe that to be good practice? Would you put a child of yours on medications that have deleterious side effects simply because he or she had a genetic predisposition to possibly developing a disease?

  • RDV

    “Maybe here’s another way to put it. If you had a family history of heart disease, your physician would prescribe you to watch what you eat, exercise, and possibly take some medication for high cholesterol or high blood pressure… He is not going to say, hey let’s see if you have a heart attack, and if you do, then we’ll do something about it.” 

    Really? And is the family member with the history of heart disease, etc. a competeing athlete? Not likely, and if they were, they would NOT be allowed to compete on meds.  Weak argument there.

  • Frank L.

    Tinky —

    Stop with your
    suppositions that are meaningless!! Europe breeds bleeders also!!
    When horses are “barn managed” (I know this is over your head)
    for bleeding in Europe , and they don’t bleed, they are bred.
    Further, since Europe does “NOT” recognize internal bleeding as
    bleeding, internal bleeders are bred as here. Understand, external
    bleeders are “NOT” bred in the U.S., same as Europe — there is
    NO difference. The Lasix argument has nothing to do with breeding
    bleeders, except in the storyline of the media, and people such as
    YOU, with absolutely no barn experience.

    The only difference
    between Europe and the U.S., with respect to bleeding, is that the
    U.S. treats “internal bleeders”, Europe does not!! Gamblers will
    find this out once Lasix is banned.

    I see that my comment to
    Tom Bower (liking his comment) has been deleted — But, Paulick
    Report has “NO” agenda.

    Ray, “YOU” are a piece
    of work, to use your terminology!!

  • Frank L.

    Garick —

    You don’t even know when
    your horses bleed — you don’t endoscope, you “GUESS!! You have
    no room to comment adversely. You just run, then, guess that they
    may have bled, turn them out, then re-race even though they perform
    mediocre!

  • Jimculpepper

    Joe Blow  and Snuffy Smith are never going to change channels from their ball games to watch you guys run your positively  pickled ponies, much less short their ballgame bets to buy a ticket on them.  Meanwhile, since the subject came up, atheists beleive that a mess this size came blasting into existence ex nihlio, from out of the void, which requires a profligate amount of faith. 

  • RayPaulick

     I have no idea what you’re talking about, but that’s nothing new.

  • Glenn Thompson

    Ray, I dont need to do it privately. These are reviews from people in the game.
    1. Dr. Kate Papp- “Speaking as a racetrack veterinarian, I can attest to the truths behind Mr. Thompson’s statements about the status of behind the scenes medicating of Thoroughbred racehorses. Glenn does a great job of presentin information of common goings on behind the scenes at Americas racetracks”
    2.  Matt Shifman- Reporter-” Glenn’s courage and convictions are noteworthy. I have spent time with horses at that track and I recognize of what he speaks”
    3. Janice Blake- Jockey-” I believe Mr. Thompson has many valid points. I have witnessed similar experiences myself.”
    4. Tommy Skiffington- Retired Trainer-”Glenn brings to light many issues that have been in the dark for years. I applaud him taking the courage to let others know what happens behind the barn doors”
    5. Dr. Jen Prior- veterinarian- “Glenn’s book is the truth. Many trainers are giving thier horses medications to relax them and although I dont feel like this is a bad practice it is illegal.”
                 Ray, let me know if you would like to talk with any of these people and I will see if I can arange it. Your sources that looked at you like you were from Mars, lied to you and let you down. I would look for new friends and sources  

  • Barry Irwin

    Well stated.

  • Barry Irwin

    There are vets and serious horsemen in many countries outside of the U. S. that do try to weed out bleeders from their gene pool, South Africa being just one of them.

  • Glenn Thompson

    Jason, If I was an honest trainer and felt like the game was honest, and some trainer came out and wrote a book and said 85% of the trainers were cheating, I would be the first person in line to tell the world he was full of it and I would do it in the first week of the book coming out. Not one in over 5 months, Not One!! They would defend their integrity if they could! They simply cant. You can crack jokes and say they are laughing all you want but if someone was accusing you??? Think about what you would do?? Glad you found Jesus by the way.

  • Barry Irwin

    Industries that try to self regulate always fail. That is how the door becomes open for congress to invade. If racing organizations would get on the same page, we might have a chance to avoid further declines.

  • RayPaulick

     I’ll see Dr. Papp on Monday.

  • Barry Irwin

    I read Thompson’s book.

    It says more about the author than about the sport. Loaded with hearsay, misconceptions and stoopidity.

    I told him so, too.

    Guy’s a loser. Not helping the situation at all.

  • RayPaulick

     Dr. Landry,

    I appreciate your coming online and your willingness to put your opinion out there with your name attached. I respect your professionalism and point of view, but respectfully disagree that it is the right thing to do to treat these horses routinely with a drug four hours before competition.

    I hold athletic competition to a higher standard when it comes to treatment with therapeutic medications on the day of a race. I understand that it is your professional responsibility to treat each animal with whatever permitted therapies and medications are available, but I do not believe that is in the best long-term interests of the sport.

    Thank you again for expressing your point of view.

  • Ssk12955

    Well said Barry. We want a level playing field, because we don’t cheat. Who says Team Valor is one of the big guys. We are a bunch of working guys that enjoy the sport and the competition. we are not royality

  • youcanthandlethetruth

     I know Glenn and I know a lot of trainers and vets. I don’t know who Ray talked to, but I know for sure that they are either clueless or dissembling (to be polite about it). Glenn is far closer to the truth than those who think this is something practiced by a minority.

  • Sinking Ship

    Matt Shifman? Who the hell is he?

  • Glenn Thompson

    Barry, You are what you look in the mirror and see. I feel sorry for you.

  • Glenn Thompson

    Thanks Ray, I think it is very important that you know the truth about this and if Dr. Papp does not convince you, let me know, there are a lot of other people that will tell you the truth. You should have a personal chat with your sources, It really bothers me that they are making you look bad.

  • Glenn Thompson

    Hey Barry, Do your horses run on Lasix?? If so Shut Up!!

  • Lost In The Fog

    Well said Barry.  Congress wouldn’t be knocking on the door in the first place if the industry hadn’t been given more than ample time and opportunity to get its own house in order.  The industry has failed miserably to recognize the gravity of the problem and deal with it.  The clock is ticking.  Either the various racing organizations act NOW to take measurable steps to clean things up or the feds will.  This isn’t just going to fade away…

  • Tinky

    Frank –

    If gibberish were a commodity, you’d be a very wealthy man.

  • Frank L.

    Your answering the wrong guy (Barry Irwin)!!  It’s guy’s like him who are trying to run guy’s like you out of the business!!

  • Frank L.

    You can’t weed out what you don’t know exists??

  • Frank L.

    You do know from experience on that particular line@!!

  • Glenn Thompson

    Thanks, I do wish more people would step up and tell the truth. It is going to come out anyway!!

  • Frank L.

    Barry —
    I don’t think you were around in horse raing when med’s were introduced and used legally in horse racing!!

  • McGov

    Well said.

  • Oky

    Tell that to Hank Gathers and Reggie Lewis

  • Oky

    Dont waste your time here Dr Landry. It is a lost cause.

  • Oky

    You have a level playing field now. I’m sure that those willing to break rules now wont reconsider because of a ban on raceday lasix.

  • Superduper12

    Barry do your horses run on Lasix? If so, Why don’t you practice what you preach? You have a horse in a big race coming up on the 6th. Why don’t you stand up to your trainer and not run your horse on Lasix. Also, If your kid or someone you cared about had asthma on a soccer field should we not let her use her medication/steroid because it gives her an advantage over the players that can’t take medication to open up their air ways as well?

  • dh

    It can’t be 85% but there are 4 or 5 trainers at EVERY track, big and small, that are flat out cheating. Just start with the percentages, if they are over 30% win and have only been training a few years, ala Dane Kobiskie, they are probably using illegal meds. Or if their 5k claimers are running faster than allowance horses and nobodys claiming off them, they are probably using illegal(and undetectable drugs). Why are we making this so hard? Just start with the obvious cheats and work your way down. We need a panel for this? Oh, and this just in, those cheats aren’t winning because they use Lasix.

  • Jasonfeldman

    OMG, Thompson is quoting Janice Blake, perhaps the worst “jockey” and I use that term loosely out there. She rides about as well as Thompson trains. Everyone hold hands and praise Jesus. As for the others on the list, a bunch of credible sources there HA HA HA HA HA !!!!!

  • Lost In The Fog

    Your inference that they don’t “scope” horses in other countries to identify bleeders is laughable.

  • Glenn Thompson

    Jason, you should go see a doctor.

  • Bristling

    Thank you Tom, wow someone that knows the truth

  • Bristling

    90% of horses bleed to some degree.

  • Bristling

    I am glad someone said it, that Glen is just trying to sel his book.

  • Bristling

    How come it’s always about lasix ? The real problem is PERFORMANCE ENHANCING drugs that the commissions do not test for or don’t have a test for. Let’s get into the 21st century here.

  • voiceofreason

     Unfortunately not so. It won’t come out.

  • Jimculpepper

    Any horse that requires any of this crap on race day is not a genuine race horse; of course, there are methods of training being developed that indicate that the trainer of such horses is not a genuine trainer.

  • Nobama

    Satish we need to get rid of the state racing commissions, not the HBPA. One national governing body and one set of rules is what is needed. The HBPA would have to evolve when this happens. Attacking them shows a lack of knowledge on your part. Treat the disease (lack of one governing body) and not the symptoms (HBPA).

  • John McEvoy

    Our tax dollars at work producing another Congressional comedy.

  • Frank L.

    Talk to Garick on this site ABOUT SCOPING.  Why would you scope for sometghing you don’t acknowlege!!

  • Frank L.

    Oky —
    Boy, you said a mouthful there!! TRUE< TRUE< TRUE!!!

  • Frank L.

    You misuse the word DRUG in this context.  People like you would like to believe drugs are rampant, BUT, they are not!!  John Henry as well as “ALL” others of his time raced on “race day med’s”.  I guess we’ll have to throw away all history of horse racing?

  • Frank L.

    So it is with YOU!!!

  • Michael

    Oh it is acknowledge that horses bleed. The problem is you are in the camp that are just plain lazy and just uses a DRUG instead of trying to breed them out.

  • Michael

     and people like you believe that drugs is ok to shoot horses with…have you asked them yet?…

  • Frank L.

    Jasonfeldman —

    Please realize
    that this fiasco by the Federal Government is just showboating for
    the uninformed public. Please realize that the Jockey Club, yes our
    Jockey Club, has already signed and International Agreement, “two
    years ago”, NOW I SAID TWO YEARS AGO, that the U.S. would be lasix
    free!! They never consulted with owners, trainers, breeders, etc.
    They just did it. It was Thereafter, THEN, that we had all this BULL
    about race day med’s and Lasix. Nothing has changed with respect to
    race day med’s in the last 50-60 years, BUT, all of a sudden we have
    a problem

    And people
    question that we are becoming part of the “One World Government”?
    I think we have already been committed — we just don’t know,
    officially, yet!!

  • Glenn Thompson

    Ray, I also have a retired jockey and assistant trainer from one of the most respected stables in the country that is willing to speak with you if you wish.email # and I will have him call you. Or if you would rather I can have him send you an email.

  • Frank L.

    Perfect words form the “Devil’s Advocate”!!

  • Frank L.

    A Paulick ploy!!!

  • Frank L.

    Voiceofreason

    Our
    industry “HAS” regulated med use, and very well. Are “YOU”
    actually involved in our industry? If so, in what capacity are you
    “LICENSED”, now I did say licensed!!

    If
    not licensed, you fall into the same category as another person who
    comments on this site regularly — Tinky, talk with no “actual”
    experience!!

  • Frank L.

    Who would want to reply to someone who lives in a fantadsy world!

  • Michael

     Race day meds? Lasix is the drug we are discussing, what other race day meds you talking about?

  • Michael

     TRY TO BREED OUT THE BLEEDERS>….stop all these artificial excuses….

  • Michael

     There is nothing PREVENTIVE ABOUT THIS ABUSE OF HORSES….IT IS JUST FAST ROI…..

    DO WHAT THE GERMANS DO….BREED OUT THE BLEEDERS THE BEST YOU CAN…..

    STOP THE NONSENSE….

  • Ridindirty3

    Once it becomes endemic…..it’s on it’s way to becoming universal. As second & third generation HORSEMEN…..on the front lines & at the highest levels…. we have understood this LONG before it EVER hit the media’s radar.

  • Michael

     Because Lasix is a PERFORMANCE ENHANCING drug!!

  • Target Letter Todd

    I wonder what will happen when the FBI completes its investigation into the PA HBPA. I’m no genius, but when the FEDS start ripping through your financials and putting your pompous executive director under the microscope, it doesn’t normally symbolize happy days ahead. I’m all for regulating race day medication, to even the playing field. But lets take it a step further and also take additional steps to ensure that the Horseman’s organizations are acting entirely in the best interest of their represented congregation. The time has come for the good ole boys network to be held accountable, and the days of keeping the common horsemen in the dark, to end.

  • Frank L.

    Michael —

    Yes, to the
    extent it controls bleeding, but, you have many horses that have been
    operated on and return to racing through medical “control”
    of their injury — or is that over your head? Think for “yourself”
    and stop listening to all the cr__!!

  • Frank L.

    Michael —

    Gee, what do “YOU”
    actually know?

    Have you ever given a
    thought to the horses that are retired, due to injury, and then are
    bred. Talk about weakening the breed? Oh, wait, you haven’t been
    led in that direction yet by the media so, so, so, can’t think about
    that on your own — this is what is “actually” weakening the
    breed. It has nothing to do with race day med’s or Lasix. Grow up!!

  • Michael

     What part that the horse CANNOT RUN unless shot with a drug like Lasix DON’T YOU NOT GET!!??

  • Michael

     IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT THE REASONS ARE that you all can invent!! you all can pretend and come up with some South African bs….

    BUT If you are not going to run that horse unless you shoot it with lasix A DRUG, then what exactly are you doing????

  • Grarick

     Frank, what did I ever say to you that makes you think we don’t know how to scope a horse in Europe? Again, please apply for your passport and come on over. Endoscopes actually exist here, along with vets who know how to use them. We also have toilet paper AND indoor plumbing!

  • Sinking Ship

    I can’t wait until this happens! They should look East, to the Bensalem horsemen’s group, too!

  • LovesABQ

    Calm down Michael. You’re not going to get your point across by shouting.

  • Sinking Ship

    Oh, wait a minute, I Googled him … he’s a blogger! He doesn’t even write for a legitimate media publication/company/web site. What a ringing endorsement this is.

  • Lost In The Fog

    Thanks for weighing in AGAIN on this Gina.  You’ve said it before but Frank L continues to ignore the fact that endoscopes are used in other countries and that the U.S. does not have an exclusive on this and other veterinary tools, methods and procedures :-)

  • Glenn Thompson

    I have met and spent time with Matt Shifman. He is a good man. I can tell from your post, what kind of man you are but if I put it in print, unfortunately, I would get a visit from the moderater. So we will just have to leave it at that.

  • Glenn Thompson

    Garret, That was a Classic!!!!

  • Glenn Thompson

    Dr. Landry, How do you feel about all the other stuff that you vets give on raceday along with the lasix?? Clotol, Kentucky Red, Mag Sulfate, B1, ACTH, Bleeder RX, Azium and so on and so on. One of your client’s Assistants told me that they gave every horse that they had that bled badly a shot of B1 and Mag Sulfate on raceday. If they were your client, does that mean that you broke the law or did you risk losing that huge client and tell him that you dont do that??

  • Glenn Thompson

    Bristling, Two n’s in Glenn and two l’s in sell. Just trying to help.

  • Joe

    Whoa! Glenn, don’t feel sorry for Barry. Among his many accomplishments, he won the KY Derby… With a homebred. What have you won lately?

  • Stanley inman

    Jim,
    so true
    Legitimate horsemen should speak out
    to protect their own sense of professionalism
    The needle crowd
    drags all of us into the muck wagon with them
    Track vets may shake their head in disbelief
    When witnessing legal but questionable practices
    Like grandslammin
    When a recently claimed horse has every joint tapped.
    But I have not seen any vet refuse to do it.
    We need a major housecleaning
    It’s long overdo, our equine partner deserves
    No less

  • Stanley inman

    Glenn, my friend
    You’ve takin a wrong turn I’m afraid
    This blog is about horseracing
    The devil is two doors down,
    one past the Jesus door

  • Motivevsjudgement

    Here
    is the simple truth about horse racing. It is animal abuse. Plain and simple.
    We’ve heard from the wealthy players and the players who use wealthy people’s
    money to play the game. They can talk all day about race day medication but it
    doesn’t change the fact that we use these animals for our entertainment and
    profit. We drag them into the starting gate by their ears, we whip them, we
    break them down and then we kill them if we think it is the “humane” thing to
    do. But in the end it really comes down to money doesn’t it? It is money for
    wealthy owners, money for breeding farms, trainers, jockeys, veterinarians,
    tack and feed suppliers, blacksmiths, van companies, grooms, hot-walkers,
    mutual clerks and on and on. But here is the reality – this industry is about
    using these animals for profit and entertainment. And there’s no way around it.
    So it seems that the people who profit the most haven’t satiated their greed
    for even more money. They want to withhold a medication (Lasix) that prevents
    these animals from suffering even more. And why? So that breeders can sell
    these equine slaves for more profit at the auctions and the tracks can sell
    more bets? We talk about eliminating Lasix so we will look more credible to the
    average person. Our credibility left the station a long time ago. If we look
    into our souls we should ban horse racing before we outlaw a medication that
    that is not only backed up by decades of research and science but is the most humane thing we can do for the horses
    we “care so much about.” The majority of them suffer from EIPH. They always
    have and always will. Shame on the anti-Lasix proponents. Shame on anyone who
    would withhold a medication that helps these animals get through the abuse. If
    you think banning Lasix is a good idea you are kidding yourself. Ban horse
    racing before you ban Lasix.

  • Joe

    Ban abusers to protect horses before banning drugs because abusers will always find ways to abuse horses to make them win with or without drugs.

  • Bristling

    It is ?

  • equine

    Sorry Glenn, I think your comment addressed to Dr. Landry “…one of your client’s assistants told me….” sounds more like heresay than fact.

    In reference to your statistic that 85% of trainers use illegal meds on race day. Can you please enlighten us: 1) to the total number of trainers you are referring to, 2) the actual number you witnessed or had proof and direct knowledge of, and 3) whether in the interests of racing integrity you reported these serious violations to the proper racing authorities? Considering you will be giving testimony asst a Congressional hearing, I think the questions are reasonable.

  • Tim Glyshaw

    I agree 100 percent with Dr. Landry. My question to all of the owners that preach no lasix is why are your horses running on it??? With very few exceptions all of the owners that post on this site and are mentioned in these articles run the vast majority of their horses on lasix.  Why?? There is no rule in any state that says you have to run on lasix. So why are your horses running on it? Could it be because it works??? Was last years Derby winner run on lasix??? It seems very very hypocritical of these owners.  They can take their horses off of lasix at any time, but a very few have done that. I also agree with Mr. Bower on his points.  You keep going in this direction you will have 6 weeks of Keeneland and 2 months of Churchill on the KY racing circuit.  But what you all cannot get any concept of is that this industry is made of of 90% claiming horses.  So a 10K claimer bleeds during a race with no lasix and needs a month off to recover.  Then another month to prep for a race. How can that owner afford to stay in the game.  My guess is you don’t even care about that and would likely make you happy because you do not want these type of owners around anyway.  And for the life of me- all of these big time owners are or have been good businessmen and women- do they really believe that banning lasix is going to make handle go up and racing return to its hayday?  The competition from casinos and lotteries are mainly responsible for the downturn in handle and growth. Not to mention that the customer services at casinos is better than the majority of race tracks.  I am a small trainer and expect you could care less what i have to say—but reading this stuff day after day, when you can take your own horses off of lasix at anytime, is too much.  

  • Glenn Thompson

    Equine, Did you read my book?

  • Glenn Thompson

    Equine, I am refering to 85% of all trainers in America and yes I did talk with the Racing Commision, The Track Police and The Stewards. Nothing was done.

  • http://www.winnerscirclepartners.com/ Stewart Nickel

    Please define the lower 50% of racing.  Do you have a list of tracks that fall into this category or a certain level, possibly claiming? 

  • Glenn Thompson

    Joe, you judge a man characture by a race that he won?? A little shallow if you ask me. I feel like Barry is a good man but he sticks his foot in his mouth often and needs to grow up a little.

  • Glenn Thompson

    Do you think Dr. Landry will answer. He knows the truth and I just hope he has the heart to speak it.

  • Glenn Thompson

    Thanks Angie!!

  • Glenn Thompson

    Kyle, Where did you go?

  • Tinky

    Gee, that’s a tough question to answer given that EVERY major professional sport, the Olympics, the Mayo Clinic, etc. list it AS SUCH.

  • Hopefieldstables

     Andre Fabre guesses too? Do I ?

  • Hopefieldstables

     Delusional, I would say.

  • Jimmy

    Doc your example about someone having a history of heart disease is not quite right. The better analogy is you give this person medication so that he can run around the block and not have a heart attack. lol. Of course, a person has a choice to run or not, unlike the horses.

  • Bristling

    You are aware that lasix is a diuretic ? That means it removes water from the body, how is that performance enhancing ?

  • Bristling

    Great then I guess we should run 5 two horse fields only on weekends.

  • Bristling

    Keep promoting that book Glenn

  • Bristling

    Why what is going on there ?

  • http://www.winnerscirclepartners.com/ Stewart Nickel

    How many copies of your book were sold?

  • Tinky

    hello? rapid weight loss, obviously

  • Stanley inman

    Tim,
    I understand perfectly what you are saying;
    Horses that bleed need more rest but “small trainers”
    Are afraid they will see small owners leave the sport due to added expense
    If you knew you could fill that stall (with another horse, a new owner, horse purchased for your account)
    There wouldn’t be a problem, right?
    So your decision-making tree begins and ends with self interest, right?
    Those ” big, trainers, owners,”
    are makin your life untenable.
    This is a major league sport
    Quit crying, step up.

  • equine

    Glenn, except for maybe the effects of Ky Red and azium,, are you actually stating this ineffective collection of worthless junk from 20 years ago is still currently in use?

    I am still hoping you will address the specific questions I asked as I feel that can only add to your credibility. Givenn the endless rumors on any backstretch, I would not be shocked to learn of a lack of response to a complaint not made in writing.

  • Lost In The Fog

    Really bad analogy Superduper12.  A more correct analogy for what’s actually going on in horse racing with Lasix would be the following:

    Because your daughter has asthma on the soccer field and because she is allowed to take pre-game asthma medication that both controls her asthma AND gives her a performance advantage over the other players, then all players are in effect forced to also take the same asthma medication (even though they don’t have asthma) to level the playing field relative to your daughter.

  • Jimmy

    You have a point about owners complaining about lasix but racing their horses on it. The best answer to that is what Fred Head said about Goldikova runing on lasix here in USA. “even playing field”

  • Jimmy

    Dude, you are so way off it is not even funny.

  • Nick

    True but how come other countries do not shoot them during race day and yet never seem to have any problems

  • Bristling

    right

  • Glenn Thompson

    Equine, all of these meds are still in use. I have spoken to several people in the NJ Racing Commision and discussed the cheating. I told them that if a hundred horses were running on a Saturday that at least eighty five of them were getting somthing they should not be getting and even told them how to put an end to most of it, Not one thing was done. I dont understand it, if I had their job, I would end the cheating in a week. They dont care. I also said the same thing to the Stewards and TRPB. The Stewards wanted what I lot of people want in this forum, specific instances. These trainers and vets are my friends back here and I am not here to rat anyone out. I just want everyone to think of this as a sport again. I think it is the only sport in America where cheating is the accepted norm. If you were watching a Golf tournament and saw a professional look over his shoulder and cheat by  kicking a ball out from behind a tree and then go on to win the tournament and hold his trophy and check high in the air, you know what you and the rest of the country would think of this guy, Every day in racing these guys do this in the winners circle, every day.When I win a race, I win it and I dont win it by breaking the rules!! Trainers and vets need to remember this is a sport. SPORTSMANSHIP!!!

  • Glenn Thompson

    Stewart, we have given away more than we have sold

  • DR SLOT

    There’s a test for every drug- the reason horses aren’t tested on a regular basis is the cost pure and simple-  maybe some of that  racino $ can be put to a good use- as far as a stacked deck-who should be on the panel- Jamie Ness / Rick Dutrow/ the list goes on and on.

  • equine

    “These trainers and vets are my friends back here and I am not here to rat anyone out.” Per your logic, friendship is more important than integrity and accountability. Isn’t that like saying, I didn’t actually rob the bank, I just helped them get away?
    .
    Stewards, the TRPB& racing commissions have rules and regulations for procedures they must follow. Your unwillingness to provide specifics seems to be more about marketing your book than a valid attempt to improve integrity in racing.

  • Glenn Thompson

    That is an interesting statement Equine, but the fact of the matter is that I reported the cheating years before the book was ever written so you can shove your marketing the book comment!! I also did not call and ask to be on this panel, they called me. Do I hope it turns into somthing great for the book, of course I do, I have a family to provide for and a lot of horses to feed. My intentions are honorable. Please do not look thru your soul and try and judge me. You are not seeing clearly that way!!

  • jorge

    Come on Nick, you are too good of a writer to look past the fact that Drysdale works for Hancock, Sheppard works for Strawbridge, and McPeek,s PP’s rival Dutrow. I am not disputing the issue. I am saying it is a stacked deck

  • Jasonfeldman

    Who can figure out what the “intentions” of an obviously disgruntled, delusional, and tragically unsuccessful individual might be. I did read your creative writing exercise, and not only is it completely unsubstantiated nonsense, it contains scores of grammatical errors, and outright lies about many in the Monmouth Park community. No one has bothered to speak out about it because it is so laughable and inconsequential that people treated it like the trash that it is, read it, snickered at it, then threw it in the garbage as one would with an Indian Charlie or National Enquirer.

    You should be ashamed of yourself for embarrassing a gentleman like your father, Willard Thompson.

    You owe a major apology to the entire New Jersey racing community.

  • Michael

    because horses couldn’t run without and therefore CANNOT WIN without it….is that easy enough for you and those who comes up with sorry excuses??

  • http://www.winnerscirclepartners.com/ Stewart Nickel

    You didn’t answer my question.

  • Michael

     It’s the price to pay for being lazy and breeding bleeders….

  • InStore

    Ray, why do you remove people’s post from your blog that don’t agree with your views on medication?

  • InStore

    90% of all horses and breed bleed! It can’t be breed out of a horse

  • Greek

    So Dr. Landry, does that mean that every horse in every race needs lasix, even first time 2yo’s. I think not. The lasix rule is a joke, and everyone knows it. Its a shame that the vets are now running every part of this industry. Trainers don’t train anymore, vets do. Buyers don’t determine what horses to buy anymore vets do. We see greater numbers of breakdowns because horses run on pain masking meds instead of being given time off. In many places you can run on damn near anything, and yet the average number of starts per horse keeps going down. We have bred far weaker horses over the years due to the fact that unsound horses are being retired to stud. I guess the rest of the world has much better horseman than we have because they seem to be able to survive without race day meds. We are not saying you can’t train on medications, but you should not be able to run on them.
     I would like to also suggest that the people that are against race day meds practice what they preach. You can’t be taken seriously when you let your horses run on the same things you are against.  

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