A SAD DAY FOR KENTUCKY

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By Ray Paulick
Monday was a sad day in Kentucky for the Thoroughbred horse industry. It wasn’t a great day for democracy, either.


A Senate committee stacked with Republican followers of Senate President David “Blackjack” Williams voted 10-5  not to allow the full Senate to consider VLT legislation designed to close Kentucky’s budget deficit, improve education, and allow the horse industry to compete with other states in the region that have slot machines. The House passed the bill last week under the direction of Speaker Greg Stumbo, but the Senate committee vote went along party lines, with nine of 10 Republicans voting to kill the bill. Four of five Democrats supported it, with one abstaning. (Click here for a live blog including the votes by each Senator.)


Williams, who likes to play blackjack at Indiana and Mississippi riverboats but for some reason opposes Kentuckians gambling in their own state, brought a smokescreen strategy to the special session called by ineffectual Democratic Gov. Steve Beshear. That strategy included a tax-and-spend proposal passed by the Republican-controlled Senate but which never had a chance of getting approved by the Democratic-controlled House. The smokescreen strategy allowed Williams’ Republican yes men/women to say they tried to help the horse industry by voting for the Williams proposal. It would have raised taxes on the lottery, charitable gambling and out of state bets on Kentucky races and provide money for purses and breeders’ incentives. (The out-of-state betting tax increase  was a preposterous idea, since out of state tracks would have simply dropped the Kentucky signal on tracks like Turfway and Ellis Park and done more damage than good.)


Some of the Republicans who voted no on the issue probably were representing the strong moral beliefs of their constituents. But others who voted no, specifically the Lexington/Fayette County Senator, Alice Forgy Kerr, were sending a clear message to people in the horse industry that they do not matter.


Kerr is said to be very chummy with Mira Ball, who with homebuilding husband Don Ball is one of the largest contributors to Republican campaign coffers. The widespread belief of many in the horse industry is that the Balls and their Ball Homes want to see the horse industry fail, and the price of Central Kentucky acreage drop so they can build more tract housing. Don Ball and David Williams are closely allied in their opposition to gambling…at least by other people.


The Kentucky Equine Education Project or affiliated political fund-raising groups must now  turn their attention to people like Kerr and other elected officials in Kentucky who can be defeated in future elections by well-funded opponents who truly want to help the horse industry.


If Williams was the bully of this aborted effort by the horse industry to level the playing field with other states, Gov. Steve Beshear was the 98-pound weakling. He blew his opportunity in January 2008 to push the same legislation after winning election in a landslide over Republican Ernie Fletcher. And when he called the special session and put the VLT legislation on the agenda, Beshear failed to do what effective politicians do instinctively: call their friends and make sure you’ve got their support, and call your opponents and tell them in no uncertain terms why they need to be with you.


Another politician missing in action on this bill was Sen. Damon Thayer, a Republican who is a consultant in the Thoroughbred  industry and is a former executive at Turfway Park and the Breeders’ Cup. Thayer, who like any member of the state GOP who wants committee appointments has to fall in line with Williams, was silent on the slots issue. He isn’t a member of the Appropriations and Revenue Committee, but he could have influenced a more positive outcome and didn’t. Thayer never came out with a position on the bill, to my knowledge.


What happens next? There is only a glimmer of hope that some parliamentary procedures can bring the bill to a vote in the full Senate during this special session. Beyond that, we are looking at the January 2010 legislative session.


The problem is that, by then, Ellis Park will have had a disastrous summer meeting, and Turfway Park will be in a much less competitive position than they are now. The prospects of Kentucky losing its year-round circuit are real. The loss of breeding stock to other states or Canadian provinces is real. The summer and fall yearling sales will be down anywhere from 25%-40%, and the breeding stock will match that or worse.


The downward spiral of Kentucky’s horse business, as Keeneland’s Nick Nicholson pointed out in the Senate hearing, has come faster and harder than anyone could have predicted. And I hate to say this, but it’s not going to get any better without real legislative action.

Copyright © 2009, The Paulick Report


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  • tomasinnm

    Absolutely unbelievable and disappointing that Kerr and Thayer failed to support the cause. Especially Thayer, what a freakin’ coward.

  • Steve

    I hate slots.

    What has Pennsylvania done for the horseplayers with all their Slot money?

  • Les Brinsfield

    Sadly, by Jan 2010, scores of sires and many mares will be breeding in faraway states.
    Thanks for nothing, Mr. Williams.

  • john greathouse

    Steve
    got better quality of horses and larger fields to bet on in Pa now

  • http://myspace.com/jock4hire jock4hire

    We’re lookin’ at the same disastrous season for horseracing here in TX. and it’s a real shame that the VLT’s should have so much power but apparently they do. And trainers and owners wanna be where the money is, and ya can’t blame them for that. I say let TX and KY have their gambling revenues!!

    Good job on the article, Ray!! Not that it’ll help but there is always hope I suppose. So,….

    Here’s to Hoping,
    lj

  • Steve

    Steve

    got better quality of horses and larger fields to bet on in Pa now

    How’s the takeout at Penn. tracks?

    Pennsylvania racing just sticks it to Horseplayers.

  • MED

    A long-term (becoming shorter) dream/goal of ours was to move to Kentucky, the horse capital of our country. Kentucky without horses is just another boring mid-west state. Guess we’ll have to see where the horses end up and move THERE.

    This whole business of the Lexington senator being chummy with developers is disgusting and corrupt.

  • http://Stoptheinsanity.org Stoptheinsanity

    Right on, Ray. Thayer has been hiding under Williams’ skirt, and he clearly could’ve been the head of the committee that killed the bill, but opted out. Thayer is a phony & a fake, & he clearly does not deserve to represent the horse industry in Frankfort based upon his abject silence on this all-important issue. He’s not up for reelection next time around, but when he is, it’s high time we send him back to the rock he crawled out from under in Iowa, where he’s welcome to spend the rest of his days as a Republican state senator representing the good people of that fine state.
    As for Sen. Williams, he needs to know his days as the de-facto head of the state senate are finally numbered. Our industry will not be treated with this level of disdain, contempt, & indifference. It will be an exciting year or two for The Paulick Report to cover the demise of David Williams & his Republican led senate’s death-grip on this state & its signature industry…

  • Helendmar

    Let’s add California to the mix in looking ahead to another disastrous year for horseracing. We’re in the same boat–all our trainers are taking their horses and leaving for the venues with VLT’s and more lucrative purses.

  • Billy Crockett

    This is an open letter to all horsemen in Kentucky…not track owners who claim to speak for you while promoting their own interest over yours.

    1) When this comes up again…and it will…you must lead. You should never have allowed track executives to be the go-to spokesmen for this. Their interest is not the same a yours. When was the last time a track did anything more for horsemen that the bare minimum they had to concede in negotiations? Have they been on your side in simulcast and on-line wagering revenue split disagreements?

    2) With one exception, every time this has passed it has been about maximizing revenue to the state. Why would you let the bill you support maximize revenue to track owners instead of the politicians you were asking to approve it? More than 60 percent of the revenue would have gone to the track owners and 25 percent to the state. It should have been the other way around…the dollars would have been much more compelling to Republicans looking to avoid tax increases.

    The only exception to this was Oklahoma where slots at the tracks was a throw-in as part of a bill to legalize Indian casinos.

    3) Churchill Downs and Keeneland are the flagships of horse racing in Kentucky. With all due respect, Ellis Park, Turfway and Kentucky Downs are insignificant and have no influence on the public or politicians. You should focus on expanding and improving Churchill and Keeneland and ignore the other three if they are still around.

    There is no reason Keeneland cannot run in March and September and there is no reason Churchill cannot expand it’s schedule.

    4) Tying your future to the Democrats is a dead-end. Thanks to Obama’s bailouts, deficits and limp-wristed approach to terror, folks in Kentucky are going to come out of the hills to vote against Democrats for the next several election cycles. When this passes, the majority of your votes may come from Democrats but the votes that put you over the top will come from Republicans.

    Grandstanding comments right now about voting out Republicans will hurt you in the future since politicians are Republicans and Democrats first and their own power depends on their own party being elected.

    5) Your efforts next time should focus on a referendum. This is different than a constitutional amendment. Ask the legislature to approve the bill contingent on a statewide vote. This strategy will give opponents an excuse to vote yes since they are deferring to the people’s will.

    In conclusion, you are a lot closer than you think. However, you – the horsemen – are the ones who have to lead. Keep a healthy distance from the track owners. They are only on your side because they need you to get their payday. Their livelihood is not dependent on slots…yours is.

  • John S.

    Kentucky, welcome to Maryland.
    Just look to your once proud, tradition-steeped racing neighbor to the east to see how far down is down. As we here know too well, politicians cannot be counted on to do the right thing when votes have nothing to do with the issue at hand and everything to do with personal agendas, moral abdication and the nuances of power abuse and corruption.
    I have never been a fan of slot machines, but racing is now tied to alternative gaming, and while I can’t see Keeneland racing suffering without, I can see Churchill Downs trimming purses, stakes and schedules along the slippery slope. God help Ellis and Turfway.
    Would it be good for racing for CDI to have slots at Churchill Downs? The track was rebuilt with that purpose in mind, but, honestly, I have no idea about the long-term impact of slots on racing’s overall well being.
    I do know this, however: Racing is clobbering itself but not having a centralized power structure that acts, independently, for the good of the game. Competition is healthy, except when dying patients are fighting over the last of the medicine. We are seeing racing’s traditional cornerstones — Kentucky, California, New York and Maryland — deeply undermined by caretakers, those directly and indirectly responsible, not minding its health. As Ray points out, people with deep ties to developers in Kentucky are in a position to play god with a sport they have little investment in. Who is to stop them? The famous question is “Who will watch the watchmen?” But racing must add, “Who will help those who don’t help themselves?”

  • http://www.tahomastud.com Kate Lantaff

    As a Northwesterner, I can’t help remembering a time back in 1969 during the “Boeing Bust” when it seemed likely the aerospace industry would die and take the local economy with it. A couple of local realtors put up a billboard sign near Sea-Tac which read: “Will the last person leaving Seattle turn out the lights?”
    Perhaps KEEP needs a few billboards around New Circle asking:
    “Will the last Thoroughbred breeder in Fayette County please shut the gate?”
    At least we all now know to a degree just how much political capital the Thoroughbred industry has in Frankfort. This backhander has lifted the veil in many respects.

  • Richard Coreno

    When leaders were needed, there were none to be found….only cowards.

  • John from Keeneland

    This is not the time to stop. Rather it should be the beginning, a stepping stone for a future victory. We need to fall back, regroup and plan a long range strategy that will result in eventual victory. This is too important to let a bunch of hare-brained politicians fiddle while the horse racing and breeding industry in Kentucky burns. We know who the enemy is, so they need to be held to account for their actions (or lack thereof). Kentucky’s horses are what sets it apart as a special place to live and I am looking forward to saving the thoroughbred industry for my children and their children to enjoy as much as I have.

  • ITP

    Fight fire with fire.

    Churchill needs to announce they are looking at the possibility of moving the KY Derby to The Fair Grounds, changing the name of the race to The Derby and raising the purse to a slot-enhanced $7,500,000.

    Let’s see if they listen to that.

  • Robert

    A slot bailout for racing is only treating the symptoms of racing. It does address the problems. Throwing money at problems only hides the sins. Instead, make an intellectual investment in a serious attempt to reinvent the sport. The slots welfare rug with eventually be pulled out from under the sport. Look at WV and DE, both states have reduced the tracks’ share of revenue. The writing is on the wall for DE with the recent change to their slot laws, it is just a matter of time now.

  • Al

    A sad day for Kentucky is a great day for Pennsylvania! Send your hoses to Pa.! We have great pasture land and a breeding program enhanced by alternative gaming.

  • Faith

    I don’t know if Mr. Nicholson deserves the bone you threw at him at the end of article.

    Nick Nicholson is the political guru, who sharpened his skills inside the beltway. He seemed to get vocal there at the very end, on the local news and an informational session in Frankfort, but that’s all I saw. I understand his demeanor but this issue should have fired him up . Attack mode to opposing senators, creative TV blitz or addressing the subject to all its patrons in April . (It’s easy being Monday QB),

    The industry knew this was coming for years and couldn’t even get it in front of the senate. This seems a little odd to me but I am probably missing something. From the announcement of the special session, (for slots) to its miserable death, there never seem to be a plan to execute. Would a well thought out agenda got it to the floor?

    It as though he knew it wouldn’t pass and this was the first step of a long process to eventual success?

  • Dray33

    Are you kidding me? You’re talking KENTUCKY. Your talking POLITICIANS. Come on y’all, what did you expect? I could have written the script: Gambling is evil, and if presented to a helpless community, they can not help but blow lil’ Billy’s tuition on slot machines, for they are powerless against the draw of the devil. Face it, in five years, bragging rights for breeding thoroughbreds becomes NATIONAL, Kentucky gets marginalized (they lose the one great thing they lay claim to), and it’s becomes the dawn of a new age for Pennsylvania, Ohio and the rest of the country. First time I ever felt sorry for the Kentucky Horse industry.

  • Dana Ross

    The folks at Horseshoe, Belterra, Argosy, and Indiana & Hoosier Downs can all breathe a sign of relief. Parents of school children in Indiana just got lucky with the KY Senate A & R Committee. Now, Ohio is in a great position to move on KY horsemen — River Downs is a lovely little track and they own plenty of adjacent land for a full-blown casino in Cincinnati. When the pro-gun, anti-gay Family Foundation gets everything it wants including a 10% tax on KY lottery to drive even more gambling dollars out of state, what then? Oh, yeah, the Senate Republicans want a piece of the action on charitable gaming — churches paying for State services that could have been, would have been, should have been funded by a hard-working, healthy horse industry. Sad day all around.

  • Billy Crockett

    The reason this failed is the race track owners hijacked the plight of the horsemen and put forward a bill that primarily benefitted them.

    For some unknown reason, the horsemen went along with this.

    Slots at tracks in Kentucky could have delivered more than $1.5 billion per year to the state which would have caused even the Republican senators yesterday to hold their noses and vote yes while dreams of tax cuts danced in their heads.

    Instead, the track owners bill would have given most of the money to themselves.

    The blame here lies solely with the greedy track owners and no one else. It was a money grab by already wealthy track owners and the victims were the small-scale horsemen who really needed some help.

  • Billy Crockett

    The really ironic part of yesterday’s failure is how ridiculous and silly the opponents were.

    The racing industry could not have asked for a better scenario.

    Had the track owners not been incredibly greedy by wanting the money for themselves instead of the state and horsemen, this likely would have passed.

  • Noelle

    It’s disgraceful – As someone said above, Kentucky, welcome to Maryland.

    Professional politicians are ruining everything that was great about this country – the horse industries in Kentucky and Maryland are among many victims of self-serving public “servants” whose only real interest lies in raising enough money to get themselves re-elected.

    These parasites couldn’t care less about the proud tradition they are destroying.

  • Benny the Bull

    Much has been made in the last 18 hours about Alice Forgy Kerr, a Lexington senator voting no on the issue.

    Maybe therein lies a lesson for the horse people of Kentucky. For many years the image has been of NetJets, big palacial farms and gas-guzzling SUV”s. The hundreds of Mom and Pop farms are not part of the public consciousness. It’s all about the wealth and glamor, but that’s what we’ve marketed; the Sport of Kings not the sport of hardworking folks trying to produce a crop and sell it. Yesterday the horse industry paid the price.

  • http://cangamble.blogspot.com/ Cangamble

    Kentucky has proved to be a theocratic state now.

  • Jeremy Jet

    It’s interesting to note how few of those in the Thoroughbred industry take any responsibility for its dizzying, downward spiral. Racetrack owners have notoriously had their heads in the sand, and continue to reap what they sow (more on that another time).

    (Most) breeders became terribly spoiled when, like the bubbles that were inflating in broader aspects of the economy, auction prices skyrocketed beyond any reasonable level when put in the context of purses and cost of ownership. Now, when prices are declining to REALISTIC levels, there are howls of dismay.

    Many of these very same breeders have, for years, been happy to breed to sell, rather than breeding to race, producing flashy, hot-house horses that have failed to produce and/or stay sound on the racecourse. Storm Cat was an excellent metaphor for the U.S. Thoroughbred industry during the past 15 years: He typically passed on traits such as bad knees, bad throats, hot temperaments, yet he stood for $500k and people were falling over one another to pay millions for them as yearlings. And the smaller breeders were complicit in the absurd orgy by choosing unraced and lightly raced sons of Storm Cat to breed, rather than tough, sound, correct horses that wouldn’t line their pockets immediately.

    I mention this because there are clear, common denominators between the slot machine issue and the problems facing both the breeding and racetrack sides of the business: greed and short-sightedness. Until the people in power in the industry face up to the fact that some further, serious pain will be necessary in order to heal the patient, that fundamental flaws in the business model need to be addressed, and that slot machine revenues are a band-aid which will do little to stop the bleeding caused by the gaping, self-inflicted wounds, the downward spiral will continue.

  • Keenelander

    Notwithstanding the characterizations of Gov Beshear’s leadership, the Democrats won by losing.

    David Williams has permanently kissed off the Kentucky horse industry from the State Republican party — and the end result will be the demise of his Senate presidency and the State Republican Senate. All it takes is the turnover of four Senate seats (starting with Senator Kerr in 2010) and El Presidente is gone

    We should have zero tolerance for Senate Republican candidates who support David Williams a their leader (and that applies to cut-and-run Damon Thayer who exhibited incredible cowardedness and lack of political courage He proved himself to be nothing more than a lapdog to David Williams).

  • Billy Crockett

    Even as we speak. the only voice for the industry has come from John Asher at Churchill Downs.

    Churchill Downs, which is incredibly top-heavy with senior management, literally fought against horsemen and the wagering public with all of their might when the economy was strong in order to squeeze every last dollar from both groups.

    Now it has the nerve to act as though it is the flagship of the horse industry in this state.

    Had this passed, Churchill Downs would have been given a $1 billion asset while horse owners would have seen a marginal increase in purses.

    Churchill and the other tracks were overly greedy and the blood of Kentucky horsemen and their families is on their buffet-stained hands this morning.

  • Paul N

    I think the proof has now been shown. Damon Thayer is a gelding.

  • California Breeder

    My sympathies to all the breeders and horse owners in Ky. We have the same problems here in California with politicians who don’t understand or care about the business.

    As for this clown Billy Crockett, he has obviously no interest in the survival of the horse business. I assume he was once involved but was thrown out on his ear by his employer or failed at whatever it is he did and is now just a sad, spiteful man.

  • Joe

    How much is Damon Thayer getting as a consultant and from who?

    The racing industry always hopes that a movie like Seabiscuit, a Triple Crown winner, slots, anything… will avoid it facing the music.

    It is time for major introspection, to embrace less is more and manage racing well, to cut drugs and the racing of sorry horses at sorry tracks in sorry weather, to cut racing to make it decent for all involved, including horses. It is time for transparency, integrity and quality, to espouse the higher values. It is time to reform horse racing.

    A central racing authority needs to be formed. Purses for claiming races need to be capped nationwide to keep horses and horsemen at home, to stop tempting evil with rich purses for cheap horses and to help prevent accidents.

    Purse dollars could be shifted from claiming races to allowance and stakes races to promote and reward sound breeding practices, well managed horses trained and raced off drugs and offer less but better racing.

    Racino states will offer more attractive purses (unless/until casinos stop subsidizing live horse racing) but life is not fair. However, higher quality racing nationwide can benefit the entire industry including Kentucky, the premier breeding state.

  • Faith

    Jeremy Jet is spot on!

  • Donny

    Actually, Billy Crockett makes more sense than most of the industry’s would-be leaders.

    According to Damon Thayer’s website (www.thayercc.com), his clients include:

    Millennium Farms in Lexington
    Ramsey Farm in Nicholasville
    Rood and Riddle Equine Hospital
    Rood and Riddle Veterinary Pharmacy
    Richland Hills Farm in Versailles
    Sparksview Farms
    Occidental Thoroughbreds

    I would like to see them hold him accountable for his cowardice in refusing to take a position on this critical issue for his constituents, his industry, and all of Kentucky.

    What’s the point of having a representative who’s afraid to represent.

  • Donny

    Damon Thayer also has “testimonials” on his website from:

    Sue Finley, TDN
    Mark Simendinger, Kentucky Speedway
    D.G Van Clief, Jr., Breeder’s Cup

    Sue does great work at TDN, but I’m not sure a continued relationship with Damon Thayer is a good business decision, given his cowardice on an issue so critical to her readers and advertisers.

  • KENTUCKY

    Knocking Kerr out in 2010 is job #1.

  • GDMII

    California wants to demolish race tracks to build condominiums and shopping malls. Bay Meadows sits as a pile of rubble, and no one in their right mind would chose to live or shop in Inglewood if they had a choice. Yet, the City Councils in both areas gave the go-ahead to the developers.

    Kentucky wants to replace horse farms with housing tracts. The only thing that really attracts people to the state are the horse farms and the horse industry. Yet, the State Senate refuses to do anything to preserve the farms or help the industry.

    John from Keeneland wrote: “This is too important to let a bunch of hare-brained politicians fiddle while the horse racing and breeding industry in Kentucky burns. ”

    John, I agree. Only your statement is a compliment to the politicians and an insult to the rabbits. ;-)

  • Patrick

    For those upset with Kerr, did any you vote for Ben Chandler and against her in the Feb. 2004 special election for the U.S. House? If yes, you’re partly to blame.

  • Eagle One

    Not to be lost in the well-justified Damon Thayer bashing is the political courage shown by Tom Buford of Nicholasville. He was the lone Republican Senator to stand-up on the record for the horse industry and the House-proposed legislation. He deserves our thanks and appreciation.

  • http://businessofracing.blogspot.com Steve Zorn

    And I thought nothing could surpass the New York legislature for the best imitation of the Three Stooges. Nice work, Kentucky.

  • David

    With apologies to Jeff Foxworthy… If you live in Kentucky and you own a horse and you contributed to a Republican campaign… you might be an idiot. If you own a horse and a farm to keep it on … you’re an even bigger idiot. If you are a race or show trainer and you contributed to Republicans… you might be an idiot. If you own a tack store or feed store or are an employee of either and you donated to Republicans… you might be an idiot. If you work for any of the race tracks in the state and you’ve given money to a Republican… you might be an idiot. If you are an accountant or an attorney and your major clients are in the horse business and you supported Republicans… you might be an idiot. If you work at the Gluck Center at UK and you contributed to Republicans… you are probably not an idiot, but should stay out of politics. If you sell seed or fertilizer or work for someone that does; if you’re a landscaper, tree trimmer, or have a mowing service; if you sell tractors, trucks, mowers, string-trimmers or the fuel that runs all of the above; if you’re a fence builder, fence painter, or paint salesman and you supported “you know who” in the last election… you just might be an idiot. If you are a veterinarian or work for one; if you’re a farrier or work for one; if you are a van driver or employ one; if you make signs for sales consignors or work for someone that does; if you embroider caps and jackets for farms or sew silks for owners and you have supported Republicans… you too, might be an idiot. If your livelihood comes from equine insurance or equine lending or you are a bloodstock agent you most probably did contribute to the Republican cause… which doesn’t necessarily make you an idiot, just painfully predictable. If you are employed by a restaurant, bar, catering company, or hotel, especially in Lexington or Louisville and you donated to a Republican… what the hell were you thinking. If you work at the Kentucky Horse Park, the Jockey Club, Bloodstock Research, The BloodHorse magazine, the Thoroughbred Times, Daily Racing Form, Thoroughbred Daily News, Indian Charlie, The Paulick Report, or any of the advertising agencies in and around Lexington that depend on their equine clients to make payroll and you contributed to “the Party of NO”… well get in line for charter membership in the Kentucky Idiots Club.

  • http://Stoptheinsanity.org Stoptheinsanity

    In response to David’s post (#38) above: AMEN, BROTHER!!!

  • Picksburg Phil

    “By Ray Paulick
    Monday was a sad day in Kentucky for the Thoroughbred horse industry. It wasn’t a great day for democracy, either.”

    What is really sad is that slots are needed to save the thoroughbred industry. I haven’t read one statement from the welfare queen owner/breeders on how to make racing/breeding stand on it’s own merits. Apparently Mr. Paulick thinks democracy means voting for someone elses money. That, truly is sad. Put the shoe on the other foot. Suppose the slot industry was failing, would the welfare queen owner/breeders support racing money going to slot owners? Yeah, didn’t think so.

  • Small Stakes Steve

    Denial, anger, acceptance… I’m an idiot. Calling all idiots to unite against the scurge of David Williamsism. We will not rest until he and his henchmen and henchwomen (Alice Kerr) who have built a reprehensible record across the board in terms of high taxation, low service (48th in the Union in health care and in the bottom half in education) are turned out.

  • Kelsie

    “The widespread belief of many in the horse industry is that the Balls and their Ball Homes want to see the horse industry fail, and the price of Central Kentucky acreage drop so they can build more tract housing.”

    People are disgusting.

  • http://Stoptheinsanity.org Stoptheinsanity

    I’m unclear, Kelsie (#42 above) about which people you think are disgusting, the Balls and their Ball homes, or Mr. Paulick for suggesting that the Balls are no friends of the horse industry? Please clarify your comment further.

  • Hini Ho

    Small Stakes Steve…..Yeppers, those Republicans who win the Kentucky Governor’s mansion every thirty years or so have sure messed up Kentucky.

  • john greathouse

    Phil
    not sure you got htis exactly right as most of you anti slots peopel do..how does voting someone else’s money enter into this..williams wants to vote someone else’s money into this via taxiation…..Gaming is about an investment by tracks (read that Keeneland owns two, cd one, ellis one and ky downs one)..if these make money fine…State wins and its population win…no one has to go to these places so stop with the other people’s money…btw..its going across the river NOW!!
    gosh we owners and breeders are making so much money right now we can’t stand it…wanna buy a Farm?

  • Picksburg Phil

    John,
    Let me ‘splain myself. I’m not anti-slots. I’m agnostic on slots. I actually own stock in a slot machine company (IGT). Otherwise, I have no investment in racing exccept as a fan. (I did own stock in Robert Brennan’s International Thoroughbred Breeders at one time. I’m sure you remember that. LOL. BTW, when does Robert get out of jail?) As a fan, I’m disturbed to have watched the racing industry commit suicide. The racing brain trust, govt., owner/breeders, racing execs, have pilferred and plundered the main source of income (betting handle) by raising the takeout to an unsustainable level, thereby diminishing the fan base as fans find other gambling opportunities. Why, pray tell, should breeders have their hand in the betting pool? That brain trust slaughtered the goose that was laying the golden egg. Slots are not going to solve that. It is merely a poor stopgap until the brain trust OD’s on their new crack. Fix the underlying problems. Run the racetracks more like casinos. Add peer-to-peer betting. Even on-track bookmakers. It’s is absolutely insane to bet into 20%

  • Picksburg Phil

    Hit the wrong button. It is absolutely insane to bet into 20%+ rakes.

  • Jeremy Jet

    “Add peer-to-peer betting.”

    Now we’re getting somewhere. A Betfair type market is absolutely, positively the closest thing to a silver bullet that the racing industry could employ. Yes, there are political and technological hurdles to be cleared, but handle would rise tremendously if such markets were properly deployed. And that, in blinding contrast to the idiotic slot machine band-aid, would address and begin to reverse a major core problem facing the industry.

  • Tony

    I have been heavily involved in this business for 20 years. I am terribly disapointed and concerned after yesterdays vote.

    While I know that it was strictly a political vote I often wonder if we need to change the perception people outside of this industry have of us. I tend to agree with Benny the Bull. Many a times I ask myself : what do people outside of our industry think of it:
    Well, It is always big news during the September or November sales when a mare brings 10 million Dollars, or an unproven yearling sells for 5 million. That is always in the front page of the Herald Leader, Courier Journal etc or one of the top stories on the TV news.

    What does the Derby, or Breeders Cup Coverage shows; Ashford, Darley, Overbrook, Hill ‘n’ Dale, Three Chimneys, Gainesway, please do not get me wrong, all this are great farms, with wonderful owners and incredible staff, I do business with all of them every year, but they are a picture of, in many cases, obsceen wealth. Barns that are worth 10 times what an average home is worth, Stallions standing for $500K, $300K, $250K, or even $50K much more than what an average family makes in a year in this state.

    Wealthy Wine moguls, Recording label owners, Airline Executives,Ceo’s of Fortune 500 Companys, Bankers, Professional Athletes, Owners of professional Sport teams, Sheiks from Dubai and Saudi Arabia, The Queen…..Those are the owners that people outside of central Kentucky see as the face of the Thoroughbred Industry that so despertly need help, and they probably say No Way !they need help.

    For decades we have sold our sport based on its glamour, now we cannot change that perception. They need to see guys like me driving the van to the shed, or an emergency run at midnight to the clinic. Owners cleaning stalls, foaling mares, doing daily vet work, dropping kids at school. struggling to get paid by a client. We need to show residents in other districtsand their leaders that the majority of owners in this business are regular Joe’s like they are working hard everyday to make a living.

  • john greathouse

    phil
    the gov may have pilfered..and I have long defended the rights of the betting man…remember when one of the brain trusts wanted to take out .5 of 1% said the people wouldn’t miss it…I was on him like white on rice..I said then and still do…It’s not your damn money!! so stop trying to give/take something away..not exactly sure where you are coming from on breeders in the betting pool…there is some give and take here…no tax on breeding stock in Ky except for horses..imagine that..feed tax?? hmmm
    some of the things you are trying to fix ..peer to peer…maybe in the future but simulcasting wagering isn’t ready..in the mean time the devil lurks across the river!
    please try to forget about greedy tracks..CD is the only one publicly owned and controlled that can qualify for those comments
    I agree on the 20% but it has to change on a National basis and Ky can’t do it by themselves
    try to live to fight another day
    btw..are you complaining about your involvement with Brennan? might be your DD was not good…is that the Industry’s fault..might want to check on Wall
    Brennan…out? not in his lifetime

  • Picksburg Phil

    John,
    I understand that you have to put your finger in the dike so you can fight another day, but if the unsustainable business model isn’t changed, your days will still be short-lived. (I’m talking about the tracks and the gambling, not the farms)

    And no, I’m not complaining about ITHB. I actually made a few bucks when Robert had his boys at First Jersey pumpin’ and dumpin’ the week Garden State re-opened.

    I was just watching Secretariat and Forego on Youtube – guess I’m being sentimental for the good old days.

  • Steve

    If a Junkie/Horseracing needs a fix he doesn’t care where he gets it from.

    Instead of cleaning up his/their act it’s much easier/harmful to take the easy way out.

    Using drugs/slots won’t fix the problem.

    I don’t know if you know this but Horseracing,as of now,is a Poor gamble!

    Slots have not made betting on horses a better gamble,so why do you want them?

    To prove it,I’ll bet not one person who has left a message here is a winner over their lifetime.

  • http://Stoptheinsanity.org Stoptheinsanity

    Well, Steve, a guy who bets NFL football games every Sunday for the last 10 years isn’t a winner cumulatively either. Yet a couple billion dollars are bet every weekend on the NFL, albeit most of it illegally. I’m sorry, but your argument is a poor one…

  • Dray33

    Hey Kentucky: you’re a two track state (Kenneland and Churchill Downs). Say farewell to everyone else. Maybe it’s a good thing?

  • Bob Hope

    something is missing here! where were the business plans; the purse projections; the infrastructure improvements; a revitalized kentucky bred program; Horse industry education programs ? are the benefits of the horse industry just a given? I saw a lot of cash but no substance. is is all about cash? Maybe I missed it 1

  • Benjamin Henderson KY

    We need VLT’s bad here in KY. Other states Horse Racing tracks across the country are getting them. I think it’s silly. People say that Slots will cause more issues. I think the issues already exist. If people want to gamble in KY they already have BINGO, LOTTERY, and across the river in INDIANI we can go to River Boat Casino�s.So the temptation is already there for Kentucky Residents that want to gamble. Why not keep the money in Kentucky. (I think that�\’s to easy). Senator DAVID WILLIAMS he goes across the river to play blackjack at casinos. Why would he VOTE no. I think that he doesn�t want to be judged. Well he has been judged. Ellis Park was my place while growing up, Along with Lary Jones. Ellis park has so many childhood memories for me. Its Home, Its Family. My parents don’t know yet what there going to do with there horses. But when the pea patch closes at the end of the summer meet. I know I will shed a tear. It’s been a very sad week here in KY. Benjamin Henderson KY

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