Executive VP Tony Allevato out at TVG

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TVG’s executive vice president for television, Tony Allevato, was dismissed Tuesday, according to a report in the Daily Racing Form.

Allevato had been with TVG since the network launched in 1999.  Previously, he was director of television production and the broadcast publicist at Hollywood Park.

TVG CEO Stephen Burn issued the following statement:  “TVG has undergone a restructure and consequently, and unfortunately, some jobs were eliminated. It is a matter of company policy we don’t make public comments on individual situations.”

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  • http://www.facebook.com/sheldon.glass Sheldon Glass

    Now all they need is to get rid of the on air staff…..

    • Anonymousone

       especially Schrupp

      • Holly

        Schrupp is great! Some of the other robots, not so much.

        • Don Reed

          Agreed.  The management over-exposes him (too much air-time) and no one can be inexhaustibly amusing/witty, so what we’ve ended up with is someone straining to replicate his past unforced funny lines (and also repeating, by rote, racing cliches).

          The rest of the staff with a few exceptions is mediocre at best; some are downright terrible.  Their only defense – a pitiful one – is that they were seperated at birth from 95% of the rest of the people who are currently on TV. 

          You could switch them with people on local TV news stations and in 15 minutes, never notice the difference in either studio (unless Morrison is pissed and threatening to kill someone.  No, not the guy from The Doors.  The other one).

          • Larry Burnett50

            You’re all a bunch of pathetic disgruntled losers.  As a race horse owner/breeder, I find TVG anf HRTV a wonderful and exclusive look at the horse racing/betting aspects of the sport.
            I don’t watch it to get their selections, I am perfectly able to do that myself.  If you want someone to make your picks and expect to make money that way, obviously if you were handicapping for horse (manure) you wouldn’t get a smell!  

          • Ida Lee

            Say What?? Wow, what hostility!! I used to watch both TVG and HRTV. Now I only watch HRTV because they’re more fun, their anchors and reporters are overflowing with personality, horse and horse racing knowledge and quite frankly, I think I’m in love with Laffitt Pincay.  They also have great programming like Horse Flicks and Inside Information which I don’t miss. Because of Horse Flicks, I was able to visit the incredible Gypsy Vanners Farm which I did not know was but a couple of hours from my home.  But for handicapping? not so much. Your guess is as good as mine. I lost all interest in TVG cause they’re boring. It’s as simple as that. I don’t know what the cause of Mr. Allevato leaving is but I’m sure TVG’s lackluster image has something to do with it.

          • nu-fan

            Ida:  I think I have every episode of Inside Information saved on my DVR. And, I’ve watched them all more than once, twice,…. Never grow tired of these shows.  TVG does replay their old Legends episodes and I really like those as well.  Don’t know why they no longer do those kinds of shows.  TVG is okay for someone eats, sleeps and breaths wagering, but, otherwise, there isn’t much of any motivation to watch more than a half hour of that network.  Well, except that they do show harness racing, which I peek at sometimes.  HRTV, on the other hand, does have a wide variety of different kind of shows.  More to watch.  

          • Ida Lee

            I love Inside Information too especially the ones about Penny Chenery and Secretariat, Well Armed, Lava Man and the most painful to watch Seattle Slew. Slew dying with his head on his owner’s lap and the family dog kissing him goodbye, well it was just too much. But this is the kind of programming that brings  people into the sport and watching your network. As to harness racing, I only watched when Somebeachsomewhere was racing. Once this incredible champion retired, it was goodbye harness racing.

          • http://twitter.com/GuyFleegman1 Guy Fleegman

             Well said Larry.  Sadly, as with the ignorant negative and cowardly comments on sites such as The Paulick Report ad DRF etc…our country has become a majority of cowards that whine and insult anyone they can with a keyboard.  Disgusting to say the least.

          • Lowechris18

             Cannot comment on its content currently,since I don’t have satellite and Time Warner carries no horse racing channel in my area, but TVG was painful to listen to several years ago.

    • Olebobbowers

      One of my real pet peeves is them telling why a longshot that wins could have/should have, been bet, after the race is over. That is not just unprofessional, it’s just plain childish. Duh!

  • http://www.facebook.com/sheldon.glass Sheldon Glass

    Now all they need is to get rid of the on air staff…..

  • Anonymousone

     especially Schrupp

  • Holly

    Schrupp is great! Some of the other robots, not so much.

  • Don Reed

    Agreed.  The management over-exposes him (too much air-time) and no one can be inexhaustibly amusing/witty, so what we’ve ended up with is someone straining to replicate his past unforced funny lines (and also repeating, by rote, racing cliches).

    The rest of the staff with a few exceptions is mediocre at best; some are downright terrible.  Their only defense – a pitiful one – is that they were seperated at birth from 95% of the rest of the people who are currently on TV. 

    You could switch them with people on local TV news stations and in 15 minutes, never notice the difference in either studio (unless Morrison is pissed and threatening to kill someone.  No, not the guy from The Doors.  The other one).

  • Louie the Lid

    Anyone who ever played a ticket in their life thinks they know how to run TVG better than the guy that practically started the network. You can all piss and moan from afar while Tony Allevato actually accomplished and provided something for this industry. Instead of throwing dirt on the body,  maybe you could offer a shred of thanks for what the guy did for the industry. Before there was no TVG…now we have it and HRTV as a direct result. Although both those dogs may come with some fleas, horse racing is more accesible and prominent in the media than it was before. Mr. Allevato had a lot to with that.

    Best of luck Tony.

    • http://twitter.com/GuyFleegman1 Guy Fleegman

       Well said Louie.  The internet gives the haters and COWARDS a voice that they would never have in person.

      • nu-fan

        Guy:  I have to agree with you on the too-frequent negative (and, sometimes, hostile) comments that I see on the Internet, regardless of which website.  And, yes, it is easier to take swipes at people when you are not looking at them eyeball-to-eyeball.  The Internet allows some to behave less “mannerly” because of the distance apart.  Too bad.  But, fortunately, there are others who make constructive comments; and, those are the ones I seek out.  I ignore the others as much as possible.

        • http://twitter.com/GuyFleegman1 Guy Fleegman

           Agree with you 110% nu-fan

          • Winninglongshotangles

            Face it guys, this is today’s society. Whether you like it or not this is what has become the norm and will never change.

            Either you are pro gun or anti gun.
            Either you are pro abortion or anti abortion. 
            Either you are for the legalization of pot or against.
            Either you support Exchange Wagering or you don’t.

            It is forums like these online blogs that get the conversation started and keep it going.

            How else are we going to fix what’s wrong with Horse Racing unless we all voice our two cents worth.

            Always being politically correct is not in the best interest of this beautiful sport we all have obviously grown to love and care about so much.

            Keep it real. Call em like you see em.

          • http://twitter.com/GuyFleegman1 Guy Fleegman

             With you on that hotangles…110%

    • Knowitall

      Since Tony got the bum’s rush out the door, maybe you can send this love letter to Tony Allevato c/o Dee Hubbard. I’m sure he’ll receive it soon.

      • Slick510

        Funny because it’s true

    • salthebarber

      I agree Louie. Tony helped get the station to where it is today. In order for a cable network to be profitable, I would imagine it would need to get the viewers in the hundreds of thousands. I doubt either station has reached the 50k mark. TVG and HRTV only survive because they help leverage business for their respective ADWs. Tony understood this and tried to find ways to make it happen. I can’t imagine that unless TVG or HRTV started offering alternative reality programming, that either station could increase its viewers beyond the regular customers of racing. Anyway, I thank Tony and wish him the best.

  • Louie the Lid

    Anyone who ever played a ticket in their life thinks they know how to run TVG better than the guy that practically started the network. You can all piss and moan from afar while Tony Allevato actually accomplished and provided something for this industry. Instead of throwing dirt on the body,  maybe you could offer a shred of thanks for what the guy did for the industry. Before there was no TVG…now we have it and HRTV as a direct result. Although both those dogs may come with some fleas, horse racing is more accesible and prominent in the media than it was before. Mr. Allevato had a lot to with that.

    Best of luck Tony.

  • Warren Eves

    This dismissal should have taken place long ago.  For eons I used to waste my time by contacting Allevato.  Make note I did not use Mr. because of the lack of respect this guy showed for those of us who continued to make constructive suggestions.  I did one handicapping show with Wolf and it was fun.  That had to be the first year they were on the air.  That was back in the days when I did hundreds of handicapping shows and did horse race radio shows both in Los Angeles and in Nevada.  I wish I had copies of some of the communications I sent to Allevato.  Not once did this guy answer or acknowledge he had even read anything.  From day one I am among those who absolutely hate the clowning around on the set that has become a TVG staple.  I have never felt horse racing was a comedy.  The other thing that has seen more sets turned off than on was failure to keep score.  Their obscene posting of far too expensive suggested plays was simply not the way things are in the real world.  And failure to keep score was a huge issue.  They had their on the air people giving out plays and nobody was keeping score.  I was too busy to monitor them, but I can assure you if one was to play their suggested exotics they would be in the bread line.  Over the years when I did thousands of seminars with good handicappers like Bruce Finkelstein(to name one) we did a huge amount of preparation and when we had no play–that’s what we passed along.  Of all the handicappers that appeared over the years Rich Perloff did the best job in my opinion.  I’m among those who stopped subjecting myself to TVG shows a long time ago, so I am not aware of their programming any longer.  If I was to turn on one of the shows it would be to watch handicappers like Jeff Siegel and Carolyn Conley on HRTV.  Having spent years in the pressbox with Jeff I can tell you he was never short on preparation.  If I were to make a suggestion to TVG today it would be as follows.  Keep score of each oin the air guest’s suggested plays.  It’s called ROI.  When I gave up the 900 line business which was very successful, my ROI had become unacceptable.  I did not feel I could charge longtime clients $15 for my daily plays that were not producing like they were.  Suggesting plays to the public is not easy and we see too many people out there merely throwing something out there hoping it will happen.  Here’s hoping TVG makes an effort to have their on-the-air people keep score.  

    • Kbg11

      I agree about clowning around on the shows,,,Im a quarter horse person, and turn the sound off now, as it makes me nuts, when they are making fun of jockies,hoses, etc and I know many who feel the same

      • Kbg11

        oh and the music they play?  OMG! especially when no commentators

    • Jduggan59

      get rid of the tvg clown, matt. i am interested in racing info not comedy.

    • Olebobbowers

      I could not agree more with every single comment you made about allevato, Mr. Eves. I have to add in a comment of my own also, that being this man was never capable of recognizing the qualities required for a person to become a T.V. personality, no less a decent handicapper. Most of them make my skin crawl, a couple exceptions being Rich Perloff and Greg Wolf. Wolf has the T.V. persona while Perloff is an extremely capable handicapper that explains his choices in extreme details that always make sense. I have no idea who the replacement will be, but I do hope he/she is wise enough to dump the clowns and bring some dignity to TVG. It can be salvaged, and they sure took a first very positive step by ridding it of the guy that didn’t have a clue about filling the set with qualified personnel.

      • nu-fan

        I’m glad to see that you mentioned Rich Perloff as one that you respect.  He is one of my favorites, on this network as well.  When he speaks, I listen.  I don’t hear him making any bravado-type of comments.  Instead, he speaks with reason.  They need him exposed more on this network!  He provides credibility.

        • Winninglongshotangles

          Say what you will about Rich Perloff. I have never seen him pick a winner over 5-1. Never. When people email him sharing their winning long shot angle success his response is often rude and arrogant. I have even experienced him putting people down for betting horses that won at odds over 50-1. It is my opinion and my opinion only that Rich Perloff  is a miserable human being that has a hard time when others do well.

          • Jack

            lol….I saw your 1200 word anti-Perloff rant on DRF.   So he didn’t acknowledge on air the genius that you are….you got to keep the money, though…right?

    • Jel4749

      Well said warren, TVG is kinda of a Joke, Schupp is aweful, this moron continues to sing on the air like that is what we want to hear. Simon, Rich, Matt, and the new kid from Monmouth are the only ones I would keep. I’d clean house on the rest.

      • JJ

        How come TVG gets rid of all the woman ?

  • Warren Eves

    This dismissal should have taken place long ago.  For eons I used to waste my time by contacting Allevato.  Make note I did not use Mr. because of the lack of respect this guy showed for those of us who continued to make constructive suggestions.  I did one handicapping show with Wolf and it was fun.  That had to be the first year they were on the air.  That was back in the days when I did hundreds of handicapping shows and did horse race radio shows both in Los Angeles and in Nevada.  I wish I had copies of some of the communications I sent to Allevato.  Not once did this guy answer or acknowledge he had even read anything.  From day one I am among those who absolutely hate the clowning around on the set that has become a TVG staple.  I have never felt horse racing was a comedy.  The other thing that has seen more sets turned off than on was failure to keep score.  Their obscene posting of far too expensive suggested plays was simply not the way things are in the real world.  And failure to keep score was a huge issue.  They had their on the air people giving out plays and nobody was keeping score.  I was too busy to monitor them, but I can assure you if one was to play their suggested exotics they would be in the bread line.  Over the years when I did thousands of seminars with good handicappers like Bruce Finkelstein(to name one) we did a huge amount of preparation and when we had no play–that’s what we passed along.  Of all the handicappers that appeared over the years Rich Perloff did the best job in my opinion.  I’m among those who stopped subjecting myself to TVG shows a long time ago, so I am not aware of their programming any longer.  If I was to turn on one of the shows it would be to watch handicappers like Jeff Siegel and Carolyn Conley on HRTV.  Having spent years in the pressbox with Jeff I can tell you he was never short on preparation.  If I were to make a suggestion to TVG today it would be as follows.  Keep score of each oin the air guest’s suggested plays.  It’s called ROI.  When I gave up the 900 line business which was very successful, my ROI had become unacceptable.  I did not feel I could charge longtime clients $15 for my daily plays that were not producing like they were.  Suggesting plays to the public is not easy and we see too many people out there merely throwing something out there hoping it will happen.  Here’s hoping TVG makes an effort to have their on-the-air people keep score.  

  • Kbg11

    I agree about clowning around on the shows,,,Im a quarter horse person, and turn the sound off now, as it makes me nuts, when they are making fun of jockies,hoses, etc and I know many who feel the same

  • Jduggan59

    get rid of the tvg clown, matt. i am interested in racing info not comedy.

  • Kbg11

    oh and the music they play?  OMG! especially when no commentators

  • Jerry

    WHY DOES HORSERACING EVEN NEED TVG AND THEIR CIRCUS CLOWNS???

  • Jerry

    WHY DOES HORSERACING EVEN NEED TVG AND THEIR CIRCUS CLOWNS???

  • Csunlimited

    Allevato was innovative, a gambler at heart, social-media savvy and loyal to his friends and family (his kid got more on-air time than Frank Lyons these days). What’s wrong with that? IMO, he seems to be the fall guy for Betfair, Steve Burn and the lack of exchange wagering in the US.
    Best of luck Tony on your next endeavors.

    • Knowitall

      Are you saying that it was unprofessional to be so “loyal” to friends and family (and his kid) at the expense of running a professional network presentation, and treating everyone with respect and courtesy instead of running a club for your pals?

      No idea what happened there, and didn’t ever see that coming, and agree Burns and Betfair are the worse of evils…but know plenty of stories of Tony being less than fair or loyal in the past, so wondering how he feels to be on the wrong side of, “Don’t call us, we’ll call you” ?

  • Csunlimited

    Allevato was innovative, a gambler at heart, social-media savvy and loyal to his friends and family (his kid got more on-air time than Frank Lyons these days). What’s wrong with that? IMO, he seems to be the fall guy for Betfair, Steve Burn and the lack of exchange wagering in the US.
    Best of luck Tony on your next endeavors.

  • http://twitter.com/GuyFleegman1 Guy Fleegman

     Well said Louie.  The internet gives the haters and COWARDS a voice that they would never have in person.

  • Larry Burnett50

    You’re all a bunch of pathetic disgruntled losers.  As a race horse owner/breeder, I find TVG anf HRTV a wonderful and exclusive look at the horse racing/betting aspects of the sport.
    I don’t watch it to get their selections, I am perfectly able to do that myself.  If you want someone to make your picks and expect to make money that way, obviously if you were handicapping for horse (manure) you wouldn’t get a smell!  

  • Olebobbowers

    I could not agree more with every single comment you made about allevato, Mr. Eves. I have to add in a comment of my own also, that being this man was never capable of recognizing the qualities required for a person to become a T.V. personality, no less a decent handicapper. Most of them make my skin crawl, a couple exceptions being Rich Perloff and Greg Wolf. Wolf has the T.V. persona while Perloff is an extremely capable handicapper that explains his choices in extreme details that always make sense. I have no idea who the replacement will be, but I do hope he/she is wise enough to dump the clowns and bring some dignity to TVG. It can be salvaged, and they sure took a first very positive step by ridding it of the guy that didn’t have a clue about filling the set with qualified personnel.

  • illhaveanotherandanother

    There should be neither tears nor praise heaped upon Tony Allevato. He was handed a noble concept and almost single-handedly ran it into the ground. For some strange reason, every new owner gave him more and more responsibilty. He proceeded to insulate himself with his friends, many with no TV experience whatsoever and eliminated those who were not part of the club. Here’s hoping that TVG is able to recover but they will have to do some massive ‘restructuring’. What is in place is clearly Tony’s team.

    • Jel4749

      could have said it better. your dead on about Tony and his friends working for the network.

  • illhaveanotherandanother

    There should be neither tears nor praise heaped upon Tony Allevato. He was handed a noble concept and almost single-handedly ran it into the ground. For some strange reason, every new owner gave him more and more responsibilty. He proceeded to insulate himself with his friends, many with no TV experience whatsoever and eliminated those who were not part of the club. Here’s hoping that TVG is able to recover but they will have to do some massive ‘restructuring’. What is in place is clearly Tony’s team.

  • Mboyle852

    I can’t comment on the dismissal, but I know the product needs help. Some ‘cappers are very good, Perloff, Bray and actually LoDuca, although he talks way too much. Lyons with his snooty attitude is gone I believe. Loved Mr. B insights, but it seems he kept the best choices behind the camera. Their push for exchange wagering has hopefully disappeared, that’s a fraudulent system if anything.
    Keeping score, definitely is required. Missing the pick 4 or 6 is not mentioned and only the tout for the next pick 4 is mentioned to keep the chrun moving i n their direction.
    When I saw the brit executives on camera last year, I knew changes were coming.

    Some on air changes have already started, but picking the morning line favorites continues to be a staple of all public handicappers.

  • Mboyle852

    I can’t comment on the dismissal, but I know the product needs help. Some ‘cappers are very good, Perloff, Bray and actually LoDuca, although he talks way too much. Lyons with his snooty attitude is gone I believe. Loved Mr. B insights, but it seems he kept the best choices behind the camera. Their push for exchange wagering has hopefully disappeared, that’s a fraudulent system if anything.
    Keeping score, definitely is required. Missing the pick 4 or 6 is not mentioned and only the tout for the next pick 4 is mentioned to keep the chrun moving i n their direction.
    When I saw the brit executives on camera last year, I knew changes were coming.

    Some on air changes have already started, but picking the morning line favorites continues to be a staple of all public handicappers.

  • Knowitall

    Are you saying that it was unprofessional to be so “loyal” to friends and family (and his kid) at the expense of running a professional network presentation, and treating everyone with respect and courtesy instead of running a club for your pals?

    No idea what happened there, and didn’t ever see that coming, and agree Burns and Betfair are the worse of evils…but know plenty of stories of Tony being less than fair or loyal in the past, so wondering how he feels to be on the wrong side of, “Don’t call us, we’ll call you” ?

  • Rich

    While Tony may have done a lot over the years to get coverage of horse racing which should be commended, I think his time was up.  The problem with TVG is these pick 4 and pick 6 tickets that they give out and put most of their focus on.  The only reason they do this is because they figure if they can get people to play those sequences, it means viewers will be tuned in to TVG for several hours which is what they are really after.  The problem with that is if you get new customers tuning in, that’s what they are going to probably try and play and will more than likely lose interest in horse racing because those bets do not hit often.  The “Inside the Mind of a Horseplayer” segment is the first in a while that I think can be productive by showing newcomers how to handicap or to show an angle that a current player had not considered before.  While I find some of the on air talent’s antics entertaining sometimes, I think the time could be spent better by providing more information such as trainer interviews or post parades.

  • Rich

    While Tony may have done a lot over the years to get coverage of horse racing which should be commended, I think his time was up.  The problem with TVG is these pick 4 and pick 6 tickets that they give out and put most of their focus on.  The only reason they do this is because they figure if they can get people to play those sequences, it means viewers will be tuned in to TVG for several hours which is what they are really after.  The problem with that is if you get new customers tuning in, that’s what they are going to probably try and play and will more than likely lose interest in horse racing because those bets do not hit often.  The “Inside the Mind of a Horseplayer” segment is the first in a while that I think can be productive by showing newcomers how to handicap or to show an angle that a current player had not considered before.  While I find some of the on air talent’s antics entertaining sometimes, I think the time could be spent better by providing more information such as trainer interviews or post parades.

  • Big Red

    I don’t understand the negativity about the on-air talent.
    If you don’t like it, simple, then don’t watch.

    I like the “entertainment” value that guys like Simon & Todd bring to the show (yes, it’s still a show).

    If you like “dead air” watching a 5 hour long card (with appx. 12 minutes of actual action), then subscribe to the dish or turn the sound off.

    Geeez, if you want want to bitch about a show, then watch FOX News !

  • nu-fan

    Guy:  I have to agree with you on the too-frequent negative (and, sometimes, hostile) comments that I see on the Internet, regardless of which website.  And, yes, it is easier to take swipes at people when you are not looking at them eyeball-to-eyeball.  The Internet allows some to behave less “mannerly” because of the distance apart.  Too bad.  But, fortunately, there are others who make constructive comments; and, those are the ones I seek out.  I ignore the others as much as possible.

  • Knowitall

    Since Tony got the bum’s rush out the door, maybe you can send this love letter to Tony Allevato c/o Dee Hubbard. I’m sure he’ll receive it soon.

  • nu-fan

    I’m glad to see that you mentioned Rich Perloff as one that you respect.  He is one of my favorites, on this network as well.  When he speaks, I listen.  I don’t hear him making any bravado-type of comments.  Instead, he speaks with reason.  They need him exposed more on this network!  He provides credibility.

  • Jack

    it’s not well advertised, but RTN is available for $50 per month on DISH.  Live feed from all tracks, as if you were at the track or OTB. 

  • Jack

    it’s not well advertised, but RTN is available for $50 per month on DISH.  Live feed from all tracks, as if you were at the track or OTB. 

  • Olebobbowers

    One of my real pet peeves is them telling why a longshot that wins could have/should have, been bet, after the race is over. That is not just unprofessional, it’s just plain childish. Duh!

  • Jerry

    BREAKING NEWS…………………………

    I have the answer to TVG’s financial problems…………………..

    It’s EXCHANGE WAGERING!!!!!!!!!!

    • Winninglongshotangles

      Jerry I hope you are being sarcastic.

  • Jerry

    BREAKING NEWS…………………………

    I have the answer to TVG’s financial problems…………………..

    It’s EXCHANGE WAGERING!!!!!!!!!!

  • Ida Lee

    Say What?? Wow, what hostility!! I used to watch both TVG and HRTV. Now I only watch HRTV because they’re more fun, their anchors and reporters are overflowing with personality, horse and horse racing knowledge and quite frankly, I think I’m in love with Laffitt Pincay.  They also have great programming like Horse Flicks and Inside Information which I don’t miss. Because of Horse Flicks, I was able to visit the incredible Gypsy Vanners Farm which I did not know was but a couple of hours from my home.  But for handicapping? not so much. Your guess is as good as mine. I lost all interest in TVG cause they’re boring. It’s as simple as that. I don’t know what the cause of Mr. Allevato leaving is but I’m sure TVG’s lackluster image has something to do with it.

  • nu-fan

    I never believe in throwing the baby out with the bath water.  It looks like this is a network that is seeking its relevance to today’s audience.  I do watch TVG but I watch HRTV even more.  Why?  Well, HRTV has more variety and gives more information about horses and horseracing; and, it seems more polished.  They put out a higher quality product even though TVG has crisper resolution in their racing videos. Each show on HRTV seems to have a clear purpose and is “tighter” in what that show hopes to accomplish. But, TVG has shows that seem to “drift” with a panel of guys that start rambling; and, their shows are almost all focused on wagering.  That is okay but up to a point.  Surely, this focus limits their audience size and audience size does matter.  Need numbers in viewership to attract advertisers; they supply the money to run the network.  It, sometimes, seems like TVG does not have sufficient revenue to do a great job in production.  It comes off a little amateurish.  I am not going to bash the on-air hosts; some I like better than others.  But who’s producing these shows?  That may be one of their key weak points.  Wish TVG the best for their future.  I believe in competition and that it turns out better products.  HRTV needs competition to keep itself always improving as well. 

  • nu-fan

    I never believe in throwing the baby out with the bath water.  It looks like this is a network that is seeking its relevance to today’s audience.  I do watch TVG but I watch HRTV even more.  Why?  Well, HRTV has more variety and gives more information about horses and horseracing; and, it seems more polished.  They put out a higher quality product even though TVG has crisper resolution in their racing videos. Each show on HRTV seems to have a clear purpose and is “tighter” in what that show hopes to accomplish. But, TVG has shows that seem to “drift” with a panel of guys that start rambling; and, their shows are almost all focused on wagering.  That is okay but up to a point.  Surely, this focus limits their audience size and audience size does matter.  Need numbers in viewership to attract advertisers; they supply the money to run the network.  It, sometimes, seems like TVG does not have sufficient revenue to do a great job in production.  It comes off a little amateurish.  I am not going to bash the on-air hosts; some I like better than others.  But who’s producing these shows?  That may be one of their key weak points.  Wish TVG the best for their future.  I believe in competition and that it turns out better products.  HRTV needs competition to keep itself always improving as well. 

  • http://twitter.com/GuyFleegman1 Guy Fleegman

     Well said Larry.  Sadly, as with the ignorant negative and cowardly comments on sites such as The Paulick Report ad DRF etc…our country has become a majority of cowards that whine and insult anyone they can with a keyboard.  Disgusting to say the least.

  • http://twitter.com/GuyFleegman1 Guy Fleegman

     Agree with you 110% nu-fan

  • Guest

    I was in the industry and never heard a bad word about the guy.  Maybe I was talking to the wrong people. 
    I agree he was the fall guy for the exchange wagering issue.
    Good luck to the next guy, I’m sure he/she will come from within, and they have plenty of very qualified people working there.
    And for the record, I hate TVG because of their Exchange wagering threat to the entire industry.

    • Knowitall

      You weren’t listening carefully then. All these comments on Tony’s Posse and hiring and protecting his sycophants and pals is dead on. And being disrespectful to the rest, including a couple of real on air talent prospects (that have gone on to much bigger and better than TVG.) Not sure how the person responsible for on air presentation is the “fall guy” for a back ground business initiative, called exchange wagering…

      Tony did a lot of good things there IMO, especially early on, while serving a lot of different agendas over the past 14 years, even if on air talent selection and training might not have been his forte – and he chose to surround himself with grateful soldiers instead of making TVG the best that it could be. 

      I personally like several of the on air talent, and the upside for them is they will sink or swim on their own without the Allevato Life Jacket now.

      • Guest

         Time will tell.  I have seen nothing but very qualified people at TVG-at least below the line-everyone else is on their own.

  • Guest

    I was in the industry and never heard a bad word about the guy.  Maybe I was talking to the wrong people. 
    I agree he was the fall guy for the exchange wagering issue.
    Good luck to the next guy, I’m sure he/she will come from within, and they have plenty of very qualified people working there.
    And for the record, I hate TVG because of their Exchange wagering threat to the entire industry.

  • RR

    Add to the short list of creditable commentators… Simon Brae & Nick Hines.  Toatally agree on Rick Perloff.  The rest of the crew are a joke.

  • RR

    Add to the short list of creditable commentators… Simon Brae & Nick Hines.  Toatally agree on Rick Perloff.  The rest of the crew are a joke.

  • Not a Fan

    Tony wielded his power and only showed his friends on TV.  Many owners, trainers and jockeys knew if you got on Tony’s bad side that meant being banned from the network.  That should give you some insight as to what a great executive he was or how “good” he is for the sport.

  • Not a Fan

    Tony wielded his power and only showed his friends on TV.  Many owners, trainers and jockeys knew if you got on Tony’s bad side that meant being banned from the network.  That should give you some insight as to what a great executive he was or how “good” he is for the sport.

  • Knowitall

    You weren’t listening carefully then. All these comments on Tony’s Posse and hiring and protecting his sycophants and pals is dead on. And being disrespectful to the rest, including a couple of real on air talent prospects (that have gone on to much bigger and better than TVG.) Not sure how the person responsible for on air presentation is the “fall guy” for a back ground business initiative, called exchange wagering…

    Tony did a lot of good things there IMO, especially early on, while serving a lot of different agendas over the past 14 years, even if on air talent selection and training might not have been his forte – and he chose to surround himself with grateful soldiers instead of making TVG the best that it could be. 

    I personally like several of the on air talent, and the upside for them is they will sink or swim on their own without the Allevato Life Jacket now.

  • Jel4749

    Tony Allevato is no wizard, he was greased in to the job and held on for dear life. Glad to the jerk go.

  • Jel4749

    Tony Allevato is no wizard, he was greased in to the job and held on for dear life. Glad to the jerk go.

  • Jel4749

    could have said it better. your dead on about Tony and his friends working for the network.

  • Jel4749

    Well said warren, TVG is kinda of a Joke, Schupp is aweful, this moron continues to sing on the air like that is what we want to hear. Simon, Rich, Matt, and the new kid from Monmouth are the only ones I would keep. I’d clean house on the rest.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GM4MKOH3SRM3GAZLMIKOOOAI74 jttf

    tony, have i got a new job that would fit perfectly with your experience in horse racing.  give me a call if you are interested.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GM4MKOH3SRM3GAZLMIKOOOAI74 jttf

    tony, have i got a new job that would fit perfectly with your experience in horse racing.  give me a call if you are interested.

  • Guest

     Time will tell.  I have seen nothing but very qualified people at TVG-at least below the line-everyone else is on their own.

  • Buster33

    The head clown was fired it’s about time.Now clean up the rest of the mess.

  • Buster33

    The head clown was fired it’s about time.Now clean up the rest of the mess.

  • robertalowe

    This is terrific news plain and simple.  It’s about time TVG caught a clue in regards to their management team (lack of one)  Let’s keep thee ball rolling and lose some more DEAD WEIGHT.  Maybe one day they will be able to compete with HRTV
     

  • robertalowe

    This is terrific news plain and simple.  It’s about time TVG caught a clue in regards to their management team (lack of one)  Let’s keep thee ball rolling and lose some more DEAD WEIGHT.  Maybe one day they will be able to compete with HRTV
     

  • Slick510

    Funny because it’s true

  • JJ

    How come TVG gets rid of all the woman ?

  • Kirk S.

    I’m not a fan of Allevato.  For those of us in television who can read or see between the lines, he was the living example of “The Peter Principle.”  Going from owner to owner, from TV Guide (the originator of TVG) to Betfair, his knack for survival and promoting up the corporate ladder was his only skill.  He was a poker player, both in real and business life, but Betfair finally called his bluff.  Someone had finally had enough.  I don’t think it was related to the lack of exchange wagering in California.

    For a executive of a television network, his pre-TVG resume is nearly invisible.  Just makes one wonder who the real Allevato was before TVG.

    Watching TVG for many years, I would roll my eyes at the antics of Schrupp & Co.  They made it very clear they had the blessing of Allevato to carry on that way, day after day, year after year.  If I ran any production like that, ignoring or insulting the viewer at home, the powers that be would have made sure the door didn’t hit me in the ass on the way out.

    I guess there are professional standards and then there are those that are not.

    The real test will be where he lands next.  Could be another network (I would be surprised) or with another gaming company.  Or even a fast food place near you.  Who knows?

    Now I’m a little more hopeful when tuning into to TVG.  Maybe I can watch it with the mute off.

  • Kirk S.

    I’m not a fan of Allevato.  For those of us in television who can read or see between the lines, he was the living example of “The Peter Principle.”  Going from owner to owner, from TV Guide (the originator of TVG) to Betfair, his knack for survival and promoting up the corporate ladder was his only skill.  He was a poker player, both in real and business life, but Betfair finally called his bluff.  Someone had finally had enough.  I don’t think it was related to the lack of exchange wagering in California.

    For a executive of a television network, his pre-TVG resume is nearly invisible.  Just makes one wonder who the real Allevato was before TVG.

    Watching TVG for many years, I would roll my eyes at the antics of Schrupp & Co.  They made it very clear they had the blessing of Allevato to carry on that way, day after day, year after year.  If I ran any production like that, ignoring or insulting the viewer at home, the powers that be would have made sure the door didn’t hit me in the ass on the way out.

    I guess there are professional standards and then there are those that are not.

    The real test will be where he lands next.  Could be another network (I would be surprised) or with another gaming company.  Or even a fast food place near you.  Who knows?

    Now I’m a little more hopeful when tuning into to TVG.  Maybe I can watch it with the mute off.

  • zinn21 zinn21

    Television is a “personality driven” media.. I get both TVG and HRTV on the Dish Network. Who do I watch? HRTV… Why? Because I enjoy the television personalities HRTV offers. You cannot build a fan base unless you have television personalities who you like and keep you tuned in. That’s where Allevato failed dismally. The return of Christina Olivares Blacker to HRTV was the nail in his coffin, IMO. Lafitte Pincay III arguably the best young on air Racing broadcaster started with TVG and they let him go. Another massive mistake on Allevato’s watch..

  • zinn21 zinn21

    Television is a “personality driven” media.. I get both TVG and HRTV on the Dish Network. Who do I watch? HRTV… Why? Because I enjoy the television personalities HRTV offers. You cannot build a fan base unless you have television personalities who you like and keep you tuned in. That’s where Allevato failed dismally. The return of Christina Olivares Blacker to HRTV was the nail in his coffin, IMO. Lafitte Pincay III arguably the best young on air Racing broadcaster started with TVG and they let him go. Another massive mistake on Allevato’s watch..

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  • nu-fan

    Ida:  I think I have every episode of Inside Information saved on my DVR. And, I’ve watched them all more than once, twice,…. Never grow tired of these shows.  TVG does replay their old Legends episodes and I really like those as well.  Don’t know why they no longer do those kinds of shows.  TVG is okay for someone eats, sleeps and breaths wagering, but, otherwise, there isn’t much of any motivation to watch more than a half hour of that network.  Well, except that they do show harness racing, which I peek at sometimes.  HRTV, on the other hand, does have a wide variety of different kind of shows.  More to watch.  

  • Winninglongshotangles

    Say what you will about Rich Perloff. I have never seen him pick a winner over 5-1. Never. When people email him sharing their winning long shot angle success his response is often rude and arrogant. I have even experienced him putting people down for betting horses that won at odds over 50-1. It is my opinion and my opinion only that Rich Perloff  is a miserable human being that has a hard time when others do well.

  • CARTMAN

    i watched both HRTV AND TVG FOR SEVERAL YRS..WE HAD BOTH  WHERE I LIVED  IN
    THE CHICAGO AREA…BELIEVE ME WHEN YOU HAVE TO PUT UP WITH ILLINOIS  HORSE  RACING YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOR..HOURS AND HOURS OF ON AIR
    RACE AFTER RACE TV..GETS A BIT MUCH..BUT I WILL SAY AS A NON PROFESSIONAL TV
    PERSON . IT WAS A LOT EASIER TO WATCH TVG THAN HRTV..THE PERSONALITIES
    ON TVG WERE MORE PROFESSIONAL IN THE SENSE THAT THEY WERE ENTERTAINING.
    AS A SERIOUS HORSE PLAYER I DON’T GIVE CREDENCE TO ANYONES PICKS BUT MINE.SO IN BETWEEN RACES I  THOUGHT THE TVG STAFF WAS ENTERTAINING. AMEN

  • CARTMAN

    i watched both HRTV AND TVG FOR SEVERAL YRS..WE HAD BOTH  WHERE I LIVED  IN
    THE CHICAGO AREA…BELIEVE ME WHEN YOU HAVE TO PUT UP WITH ILLINOIS  HORSE  RACING YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOR..HOURS AND HOURS OF ON AIR
    RACE AFTER RACE TV..GETS A BIT MUCH..BUT I WILL SAY AS A NON PROFESSIONAL TV
    PERSON . IT WAS A LOT EASIER TO WATCH TVG THAN HRTV..THE PERSONALITIES
    ON TVG WERE MORE PROFESSIONAL IN THE SENSE THAT THEY WERE ENTERTAINING.
    AS A SERIOUS HORSE PLAYER I DON’T GIVE CREDENCE TO ANYONES PICKS BUT MINE.SO IN BETWEEN RACES I  THOUGHT THE TVG STAFF WAS ENTERTAINING. AMEN

  • Winninglongshotangles

    Face it guys, this is today’s society. Whether you like it or not this is what has become the norm and will never change.

    Either you are pro gun or anti gun.
    Either you are pro abortion or anti abortion. 
    Either you are for the legalization of pot or against.
    Either you support Exchange Wagering or you don’t.

    It is forums like these online blogs that get the conversation started and keep it going.

    How else are we going to fix what’s wrong with Horse Racing unless we all voice our two cents worth.

    Always being politically correct is not in the best interest of this beautiful sport we all have obviously grown to love and care about so much.

    Keep it real. Call em like you see em.

  • http://twitter.com/GuyFleegman1 Guy Fleegman

     With you on that hotangles…110%

  • Winninglongshotangles

    Jerry I hope you are being sarcastic.

  • Jerry

    THE END OF TVG IS COMING BUT WHO REALLY CARES ABOUT TVG ANYWAY? THEIR GIG IS UP!!!!!!!

    THE NEXT GUY TO ESCAPE IS STEPHEN BURN. THAT WILL SIGNAL THE END OF TVG AND THEIR EXCHANGE WAGERING FOLLY. JUST THINK ABOUT ALL OF THE TIME AND MONEY THEY WASTED LOBBYING A BETTING METHOD THAT NO ONE SUPPORTED!! (EVEN BRACKPOOL BAILED ON THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

    MAYBE BURN MIGHT WANT TO BE A CHRB COMMISSIONER OR TOC PRESIDENT?? THERE WILL SOON BE SPOTS OPEN AND HE’LL HAVE EXTRA TIME AS SOON AS HOLLYWOOD PARK CLOSES!!!!!

    SAD BUT TRUE…………………..

    • salthebarber

      A lot of people care if TVG goes away.

      • Jerry

        WHO. other than Stephen Burn and TVG Management?

        TVG just sucks handle from the tracks and provides little in return just like they do in the UK!

        You can watch ALL races on other channels or live feeds. Who needs their circus clowns??

        • Illhaveanotherandanother

          I know there are a lot of people to see him go. Under his leadership, the TVG newsroom became the greatest sportsbook west of Vegas.

        • salthebarber

          Jerry, for most people TVG is the only station they get for horseracing. In the Boston area, the main supplier of cable does not have HRTV. When you call them to ask why they don’t carry HRTV, they tell you, “We do have HGTV.” If you say to them that is not the same because it is not a horseracing channel they say, “We have TVG for horseracing.” :) Dishnetwork is available, but it is not convenient for many people.

      • Winninglongshotangles

        Despite my comments, I must admit that I do care about TVG as well.
        All insanity aside, I do find it entertaining. 

        Just like people used to tune into the Howard Stern radio show in the early 80′s. Even though they didn’t like him, they tuned in just to hear what he would say next.I cannot wait to see how this Santa Anita Handicap day is going to play out with Chantel Southerland joining the team. Then again any time I drive by a train wreck I always slow down and take it all in.

        • salthebarber

          From reading all the responses here and at the DRF I have come to the conclusuion that TVG is really not that bad and HRTV is real good as many are claiming. Both networks are inhabitated by people who are nice and really love the game. I’d say maybe TVG needs to tone it down some and HRTV needs to do the opposite. :) 

  • Jerry

    THE END OF TVG IS COMING BUT WHO REALLY CARES ABOUT TVG ANYWAY? THEIR GIG IS UP!!!!!!!

    THE NEXT GUY TO ESCAPE IS STEPHEN BURN. THAT WILL SIGNAL THE END OF TVG AND THEIR EXCHANGE WAGERING FOLLY. JUST THINK ABOUT ALL OF THE TIME AND MONEY THEY WASTED LOBBYING A BETTING METHOD THAT NO ONE SUPPORTED!! (EVEN BRACKPOOL BAILED ON THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

    MAYBE BURN MIGHT WANT TO BE A CHRB COMMISSIONER OR TOC PRESIDENT?? THERE WILL SOON BE SPOTS OPEN AND HE’LL HAVE EXTRA TIME AS SOON AS HOLLYWOOD PARK CLOSES!!!!!

    SAD BUT TRUE…………………..

  • TR10

    The best handicapper on TVG is Matt Carrothers.  

    As much as he may be irritating at times, he at least makes an effort to find longshots/price horses, presenting them to the public and giving his reasoning.  It’s not uncommon to see him single a 15-1 horse in a Pick 4.

    To me, he is better for the network than someone (Mr. B, etc.) who picks the favorite every time.  I already know who the favorite is, so I don’t need a mere recitation of it by the TVG analyst.  At least offer me an interesting opinion.

  • TR10

    The best handicapper on TVG is Matt Carrothers.  

    As much as he may be irritating at times, he at least makes an effort to find longshots/price horses, presenting them to the public and giving his reasoning.  It’s not uncommon to see him single a 15-1 horse in a Pick 4.

    To me, he is better for the network than someone (Mr. B, etc.) who picks the favorite every time.  I already know who the favorite is, so I don’t need a mere recitation of it by the TVG analyst.  At least offer me an interesting opinion.

  • salthebarber

    I agree Louie. Tony helped get the station to where it is today. In order for a cable network to be profitable, I would imagine it would need to get the viewers in the hundreds of thousands. I doubt either station has reached the 50k mark. TVG and HRTV only survive because they help leverage business for their respective ADWs. Tony understood this and tried to find ways to make it happen. I can’t imagine that unless TVG or HRTV started offering alternative reality programming, that either station could increase its viewers beyond the regular customers of racing. Anyway, I thank Tony and wish him the best.

  • Ida Lee

    I love Inside Information too especially the ones about Penny Chenery and Secretariat, Well Armed, Lava Man and the most painful to watch Seattle Slew. Slew dying with his head on his owner’s lap and the family dog kissing him goodbye, well it was just too much. But this is the kind of programming that brings  people into the sport and watching your network. As to harness racing, I only watched when Somebeachsomewhere was racing. Once this incredible champion retired, it was goodbye harness racing.

  • salthebarber

    A lot of people care if TVG goes away.

  • Jerry

    WHO. other than Stephen Burn and TVG Management?

    TVG just sucks handle from the tracks and provides little in return just like they do in the UK!

    You can watch ALL races on other channels or live feeds. Who needs their circus clowns??

  • Jack

    lol….I saw your 1200 word anti-Perloff rant on DRF.   So he didn’t acknowledge on air the genius that you are….you got to keep the money, though…right?

  • Jack

    if the TOC don’t go along w/ exchange wagering, Betfair will sell off their ADW business  to a competitor and shut down TVG.  I read that they are looking to expand into fotb’s (slots) in the UK.   I say good riddance to them.  They rake their punters over the coals at every opportunity.  

  • Jack

    if the TOC don’t go along w/ exchange wagering, Betfair will sell off their ADW business  to a competitor and shut down TVG.  I read that they are looking to expand into fotb’s (slots) in the UK.   I say good riddance to them.  They rake their punters over the coals at every opportunity.  

  • Illhaveanotherandanother

    I know there are a lot of people to see him go. Under his leadership, the TVG newsroom became the greatest sportsbook west of Vegas.

  • salthebarber

    Jerry, for most people TVG is the only station they get for horseracing. In the Boston area, the main supplier of cable does not have HRTV. When you call them to ask why they don’t carry HRTV, they tell you, “We do have HGTV.” If you say to them that is not the same because it is not a horseracing channel they say, “We have TVG for horseracing.” :) Dishnetwork is available, but it is not convenient for many people.

  • Thevoiceoftruth69

    Does this mean someone will stop playing songs by Sinead o’connor and Milly Vanilli when they are too cheap to have a commentator?

    • Winninglongshotangles

      Don’t forget, “Everybody Was Kung Foo Fighting”

  • Thevoiceoftruth69

    Does this mean someone will stop playing songs by Sinead o’connor and Milly Vanilli when they are too cheap to have a commentator?

  • David

    Tony’s a bright guy and had a great run; fact is the business
    model has never worked and TVG loses money. 
    In fact as is, they and HRTV with different rationale and agenda BOTH
    lose money.  An industry cooperative
    and/or a single network will eventually displace two outfits doing the same
    thing with no chance of success.

  • David

    Tony’s a bright guy and had a great run; fact is the business
    model has never worked and TVG loses money. 
    In fact as is, they and HRTV with different rationale and agenda BOTH
    lose money.  An industry cooperative
    and/or a single network will eventually displace two outfits doing the same
    thing with no chance of success.

  • Winninglongshotangles

    Don’t forget, “Everybody Was Kung Foo Fighting”

  • Winninglongshotangles

    Despite my comments, I must admit that I do care about TVG as well.
    All insanity aside, I do find it entertaining. 

    Just like people used to tune into the Howard Stern radio show in the early 80′s. Even though they didn’t like him, they tuned in just to hear what he would say next.I cannot wait to see how this Santa Anita Handicap day is going to play out with Chantel Southerland joining the team. Then again any time I drive by a train wreck I always slow down and take it all in.

  • http://twitter.com/GuyFleegman1 Guy Fleegman

    They had to get rid of someone to pay Chantal the big money I am certain she is getting.  

  • http://twitter.com/GuyFleegman1 Guy Fleegman

    They had to get rid of someone to pay Chantal the big money I am certain she is getting.  

  • salthebarber

    From reading all the responses here and at the DRF I have come to the conclusuion that TVG is really not that bad and HRTV is real good as many are claiming. Both networks are inhabitated by people who are nice and really love the game. I’d say maybe TVG needs to tone it down some and HRTV needs to do the opposite. :) 

  • Lowechris18

     Cannot comment on its content currently,since I don’t have satellite and Time Warner carries no horse racing channel in my area, but TVG was painful to listen to several years ago.

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