’50-1′: Mine That Bird movie racing toward 2013 release date

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Calvin Borel wins Derby on Mine That Bird Calvin Borel wins Derby on Mine That Bird

Jim Wilson has worked tirelessly for the past three years and spent around $8 million so far, but he is still determined to turn 2009 Kentucky Derby winner Mine That Bird’s story into a movie.

At a news conference at Sunland Park Dec. 5, Wilson said that the movie, “50-1“, has entered the editing and scoring stage, and he is hopeful of a 2013 release date.

Wilson said that a crew will shoot race footage this weekend at Sunland, where Mine That Bird used the Borderland Derby as a stepping stone to that year’s Kentucky Derby.

Wilson, the Academy Award-winning producer of “Dances With Wolves,” said the movie is up against long odds of its own, since the movie studios he approached about it weren’t interested.

“Nobody wanted “50 to 1″, ” he said, noting the recent failure of HBO’s track-based “Luckand the lackluster box-office results of Disney’s 2010 movie “Secretariat”.

“Hollywood is a really tough town,” he added. “They do not want another horse story.”

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  • Burton DeWitt

    I still hope to wake up one day and hear that the entire making of this movie was just one, huge practical joke.

    • nu-fan

      Burton:  Why so negative?  Just wondering….

  • Burton DeWitt

    I still hope to wake up one day and hear that the entire making of this movie was just one, huge practical joke.

  • Ida Lee

    I love that sweet boy Mine That Bird so I would definitely go see any movie having to do with him. Now, let’s discuss the “lackluster box-office results” of the Secretariat movie? The movie made a litte over $60 million and it’s production cost was $35 million. I would consider that pretty damn good under anybody’s idea of commercial success. Also, when was the last time a Brad Pitt movie made $60 million? Or any of the so-called A-listers for that matter. Think Julia Roberts.  The Hurt Locker was the Oscar best picture and it made $49 million. The Life of Pi which is an excellent movie that will most probably be nominated for Best Picture has made $48 million with a budget of $120 million. Need I go on…Oh one more thing…Can you name one hollywood personality that is better looking than Secretariat or that have a better record in their chosen profession than Secretariat?  Rant over…

    • Glimmerglass

      Hollywood economics aren’t as simple as box office receipts vs. budget. Studio marketing costs are added on top of the budget. In 2007, the average marketing budget for a theatrical release from a major Hollywood studio was $35.9 million.

      Also box office receipts (tickets sold) aren’t 100% back to the studio, there is a split involved. So compress significantly the difference as being “profit”. Additional earnings do come back from DVDs sales and cable outlets (HBO, Showtime, et al) but the net from that is not disclosed. 

      • nu-fan

        Glimmerglass:  And, I would love to know those earnings from DVD sales and from television.  Secretariat is programmed so frequently on television that I can’t help but think that someone is making a few dollars off of that movie.  Furthermore, box office receipts have been very tepid in recent months.  Is that a result of poor decision making on the part of movie studios?  Can’t keep blaming the economy for everything.  Historically, the movie industry has run counter to the economy.  The Great Depression is one example that comes to mind.  But, regarding television: Isn’t that why so many big screen actors are starting to take another look at performing on television?  Movies aren’t doing so well so they are looking at other opportunities that to earn their income.  So, I’m not sure that the Mine That Bird movie might not be profitable.  It may make a few bucks in the theaters but it may make a lot more on television and Netflix. 

        • Glimmerglass

          Last year there was a lawsuit between Disney and Dish Network involving Starz channel airing a clutch of their movies including Secretariat as a promo, but without Disney seeing the fees. Starz has done a very heavy amount of replaying of the movie.

          DVD royalties vary, but honestly with players like Wal-Mart beating down on price from vendors the kickback is modest to Disney.

          Plus we may forget but Disney also had to defend legal action in the case when they were sued by the estate of “Chic” Anderson with the use of his voice without compensation in the DVD bonus pack with historic footage. The movie itself did not use Chic’s voice.

          • nu-fan

            Glimmerglass:  Yes, where there are deep pockets, there will be plenty of people trying to pick them.  And, in today’s society, everyone wants a bigger piece of the pie, whether truly earned or not.  That, however, shouldn’t be the focus of the movie industry.  They are there to entertain; that’s their business–or supposed to be.  Let the rest fall where it may.  But, if that industry doesn’t start putting out quality films, they, too, will soon become irrelevant to much of the public.  Already have–just look at movie revenues. But, I’m sure that they figure that they can keep putting out all sorts of tie-ins and make money off of that.  Sure, they can but, again, have gotten away from their core business.

      • Ida Lee

        Don’t start with me Glimmerglass.  When it comes to anything Secretariat, I’m a crazy woman…Have a great Holiday Season!!!

        • nu-fan

          Ida:  That makes two of us.  No one ever asks me why I have turned into a horseracing fan.  It’s because of the movie, Secretariat, as well as the memories of watching that race—just a “few” years ago.  Got me motivated to get up and actually go to the racetrack!

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/MyBig-Red/100000980578079 MyBig Red

            I’m glad you enjoyed the Secretariat movie! Yes, you need to go see the horses race at the track. Once it is in your blood, you will never be the same. I’m not big on betting, but I LOVE seeing the horses run & hearing the thunder of the hoofs on the track. Another movie you might like is, Seabiscuit, which I enjoyed as well. Now, if they will just make a movie about Zenyatta :) 

          • nu-fan

            MyBig Red:  You don’t think I already own a copy of Seabiscuit?  Of course, I do!  Love watching it.  And, of course, a copy of Secretariat, just in case it is not on television at the moment I feel like watching it again.  I don’t know if the horseracing industry understands that these kinds of movies might be one means of capturing a potential audience for horseracing fans, in particular, those who have never been to a real race.  They seem to be going back to the same bag of tricks: wagering.  But, I truly believe that to get long-term fans of horseracing, the industry needs–first–to find those who would “LOVE seeing the horses run & hearing the thunder of the hoofs on the track.”  That’s what keeps fans returning.  After that is done, then, the industry should concentrate on whether wagering is implemented correctly to motivate fans to wager.  And, yes, Zenyatta is a perfect fit for a movie. 

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/MyBig-Red/100000980578079 MyBig Red

          Me too !! Even though I’ve read where people said they did not like the movie, “Secretariat”, I LOVED it !! I was 15 years old in 1973 & I admired Penny for how she stood up for what she believes in & she still does!! You Go Girl :) And Secretariat, well, I can’t begin to tell you how much I LOVE him, still to this day. Disney may have gotten some of the facts wrong in the movie, but I still enjoyed the movie very much.
          Everyone needs to see: “Hachi: A Dog’s Tale” if you want to see a REALLY good movie. You will need a box of tissues….

  • Ida Lee

    I love that sweet boy Mine That Bird so I would definitely go see any movie having to do with him. Now, let’s discuss the “lackluster box-office results” of the Secretariat movie? The movie made a litte over $60 million and it’s production cost was $35 million. I would consider that pretty damn good under anybody’s idea of commercial success. Also, when was the last time a Brad Pitt movie made $60 million? Or any of the so-called A-listers for that matter. Think Julia Roberts.  The Hurt Locker was the Oscar best picture and it made $49 million. The Life of Pi which is an excellent movie that will most probably be nominated for Best Picture has made $48 million with a budget of $120 million. Need I go on…Oh one more thing…Can you name one hollywood personality that is better looking than Secretariat or that have a better record in their chosen profession than Secretariat?  Rant over…

  • Glimmerglass

    Hollywood economics aren’t as simple as box office receipts vs. budget. Studio marketing costs are added on top of the budget. In 2007, the average marketing budget for a theatrical release from a major Hollywood studio was $35.9 million.

    Also box office receipts (tickets sold) aren’t 100% back to the studio, there is a split involved. So compress significantly the difference as being “profit”. Additional earnings do come back from DVDs sales and cable outlets (HBO, Showtime, et al) but the net from that is not disclosed. 

  • Bristling

    I hope it’s better than Secretariat.

  • Bristling

    I hope it’s better than Secretariat.

  • nu-fan

    Glimmerglass:  And, I would love to know those earnings from DVD sales and from television.  Secretariat is programmed so frequently on television that I can’t help but think that someone is making a few dollars off of that movie.  Furthermore, box office receipts have been very tepid in recent months.  Is that a result of poor decision making on the part of movie studios?  Can’t keep blaming the economy for everything.  Historically, the movie industry has run counter to the economy.  The Great Depression is one example that comes to mind.  But, regarding television: Isn’t that why so many big screen actors are starting to take another look at performing on television?  Movies aren’t doing so well so they are looking at other opportunities that to earn their income.  So, I’m not sure that the Mine That Bird movie might not be profitable.  It may make a few bucks in the theaters but it may make a lot more on television and Netflix. 

  • nu-fan

    Burton:  Why so negative?  Just wondering….

  • Ida Lee

    Don’t start with me Glimmerglass.  When it comes to anything Secretariat, I’m a crazy woman…Have a great Holiday Season!!!

  • nu-fan

    Ida:  That makes two of us.  No one ever asks me why I have turned into a horseracing fan.  It’s because of the movie, Secretariat, as well as the memories of watching that race—just a “few” years ago.  Got me motivated to get up and actually go to the racetrack!

  • Glimmerglass

    Last year there was a lawsuit between Disney and Dish Network involving Starz channel airing a clutch of their movies including Secretariat as a promo, but without Disney seeing the fees. Starz has done a very heavy amount of replaying of the movie.

    DVD royalties vary, but honestly with players like Wal-Mart beating down on price from vendors the kickback is modest to Disney.

    Plus we may forget but Disney also had to defend legal action in the case when they were sued by the estate of “Chic” Anderson with the use of his voice without compensation in the DVD bonus pack with historic footage. The movie itself did not use Chic’s voice.

  • Starofthecrop

    I heard that they were going to get Earnest T Bass to play Calvin Borell.

    • Gyoung

      So funny, Earnest T. as Borel, can’t stop laughing.

  • Starofthecrop

    I heard that they were going to get Earnest T Bass to play Calvin Borell.

  • Kris

    I hope they finish the movie with the Kentucky Derby, otherwise the rest of the film will be a long series of defeats.

  • Kris

    I hope they finish the movie with the Kentucky Derby, otherwise the rest of the film will be a long series of defeats.

  • http://twitter.com/dawnallama Dawna Wood

    Doesn’t want a horse story? Puh-leez. Horse fans make up a huge demographic, there’s at least one horse movie out every year and they generally do pretty well. Seabiscuit, The Horse Whisperer, War Horse… Secretariat was a pile of crap, that’s why it didn’t do well! >.>

  • http://twitter.com/dawnallama Dawna Wood

    Doesn’t want a horse story? Puh-leez. Horse fans make up a huge demographic, there’s at least one horse movie out every year and they generally do pretty well. Seabiscuit, The Horse Whisperer, War Horse… Secretariat was a pile of crap, that’s why it didn’t do well! >.>

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/MyBig-Red/100000980578079 MyBig Red

    Hollywood may not want another horse movie, but the racing fans do!! I believe the story of Zenyatta would do very well at the movies. She is LOVED by so many people and she has inspired us all, to “Never Give Up On Our Dreams”.
    I admired Mine That Bird, for what he accomplished, but in my opinion, a movie about Zenyatta would be much more appreciated by horse lovers & those who need some encouragement in life.   

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/MyBig-Red/100000980578079 MyBig Red

    Hollywood may not want another horse movie, but the racing fans do!! I believe the story of Zenyatta would do very well at the movies. She is LOVED by so many people and she has inspired us all, to “Never Give Up On Our Dreams”.
    I admired Mine That Bird, for what he accomplished, but in my opinion, a movie about Zenyatta would be much more appreciated by horse lovers & those who need some encouragement in life.   

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/MyBig-Red/100000980578079 MyBig Red

    Me too !! Even though I’ve read where people said they did not like the movie, “Secretariat”, I LOVED it !! I was 15 years old in 1973 & I admired Penny for how she stood up for what she believes in & she still does!! You Go Girl :) And Secretariat, well, I can’t begin to tell you how much I LOVE him, still to this day. Disney may have gotten some of the facts wrong in the movie, but I still enjoyed the movie very much.
    Everyone needs to see: “Hachi: A Dog’s Tale” if you want to see a REALLY good movie. You will need a box of tissues….

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/MyBig-Red/100000980578079 MyBig Red

    I’m glad you enjoyed the Secretariat movie! Yes, you need to go see the horses race at the track. Once it is in your blood, you will never be the same. I’m not big on betting, but I LOVE seeing the horses run & hearing the thunder of the hoofs on the track. Another movie you might like is, Seabiscuit, which I enjoyed as well. Now, if they will just make a movie about Zenyatta :) 

  • nu-fan

    MyBig Red:  You don’t think I already own a copy of Seabiscuit?  Of course, I do!  Love watching it.  And, of course, a copy of Secretariat, just in case it is not on television at the moment I feel like watching it again.  I don’t know if the horseracing industry understands that these kinds of movies might be one means of capturing a potential audience for horseracing fans, in particular, those who have never been to a real race.  They seem to be going back to the same bag of tricks: wagering.  But, I truly believe that to get long-term fans of horseracing, the industry needs–first–to find those who would “LOVE seeing the horses run & hearing the thunder of the hoofs on the track.”  That’s what keeps fans returning.  After that is done, then, the industry should concentrate on whether wagering is implemented correctly to motivate fans to wager.  And, yes, Zenyatta is a perfect fit for a movie. 

  • nu-fan

    Glimmerglass:  Yes, where there are deep pockets, there will be plenty of people trying to pick them.  And, in today’s society, everyone wants a bigger piece of the pie, whether truly earned or not.  That, however, shouldn’t be the focus of the movie industry.  They are there to entertain; that’s their business–or supposed to be.  Let the rest fall where it may.  But, if that industry doesn’t start putting out quality films, they, too, will soon become irrelevant to much of the public.  Already have–just look at movie revenues. But, I’m sure that they figure that they can keep putting out all sorts of tie-ins and make money off of that.  Sure, they can but, again, have gotten away from their core business.

  • Gyoung

    So funny, Earnest T. as Borel, can’t stop laughing.

  • Sym

    The horse that really needs to have a movie made of his story is Exterminator. Like MTB, he was a long-shot winner of the Kentucky Derby. He had no prep races, no races at all other than the 4 nothing races, 2 wins at age 2, about 10 months before the Derby. He was purchased as a workhorse for his stablemate, then became a last-minute entry when Sun Briar went lame. Unlike MTB, he went on to have one of, if not the greatest, career of the 20th century, 33 stakes victories, 49 wins overall in 99 races. He was also known for his gangly, less-than handsome appearance, and his wonderful temperament, sometimes leaning on bad-acting horses at the starting wire to make them stand still so the race could start. He won for 9 different trainers and 18 different jockeys on tracks around the US, Mexico and Canada, all distances, under heavy weights.

  • Sym

    The horse that really needs to have a movie made of his story is Exterminator. Like MTB, he was a long-shot winner of the Kentucky Derby. He had no prep races, no races at all other than the 4 nothing races, 2 wins at age 2, about 10 months before the Derby. He was purchased as a workhorse for his stablemate, then became a last-minute entry when Sun Briar went lame. Unlike MTB, he went on to have one of, if not the greatest, career of the 20th century, 33 stakes victories, 49 wins overall in 99 races. He was also known for his gangly, less-than handsome appearance, and his wonderful temperament, sometimes leaning on bad-acting horses at the starting wire to make them stand still so the race could start. He won for 9 different trainers and 18 different jockeys on tracks around the US, Mexico and Canada, all distances, under heavy weights.

  • sandy

    its 2013 and no word yet on when this is gonna be finished? not heard any more about this movie

  • georgia

    I love anything Horse. Can’t wait to see 50-to1. I loved Secretariat, loved Lucky, (very disappointed when they dropped it.) The 2009 derby was the most exciting race ever, since Secretariats triple crown.

    • terri

      They dropped it because animals were injured and died while making that movie. I’m a big fan of horse movies myself but having 25 of them in my pasture, I really can do without a movie. I have the real thing. Personally, I love animals too much to compromise their safety for any form of entertainment. I will not spend my hard earned dollars for any movie that abuses and kills their animals. That’s not entertainment to me.

  • Beverley Hughes

    Maybe America is finally wising up to what an abusive practice horse racing is and is sick of seeing the abuse of horses glorified. Few people know what really goes on behind the scenes. It’s disgusting. Go out there and run the races yourselves. Shoot yourself up with drugs. They if you break a leg, let them shoot you between the eyes.

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