The Breeders’ Cup Forum: Trainer Graham Motion

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Graham Motion was a relieved man on Monday morning, seeing that 2011 Kentucky Derby winner Animal Kingdom had come out of his comeback race two days earlier at Gulfstream Park in good order. Later that day, Toby’s Corner, the 2011 Wood Memorial winner, would make a solid comeback when third in the Grade 2 General George at Laurel. Motion is preparing Animal Kingdom for the March 31 Dubai World Cup.

The 47-year-old native of Cambridge, England, came to the U.S. as a teenager, worked first for Hall of Famer Jonathan Sheppard and then went to France, where he apprenticed under Jonathan Pease (and met his future wife, Anita, who was working for another trainer in Chantilly). Motion returned to the U.S. and was assistant to Maryland legend Bernie Bond before opening a public stable of his own in 1993. Breeders’ Cup Turf winner Better Talk Now put him on the national map in 2004, and last year’s Kentucky Derby victory by Animal Kingdom brought him even greater acclaim.

Motion took time out of his schedule earlier this week at Palm Meadows to talk with the Paulick Report. You can keep up with him and his Herringswell Stables at http://www.hgrahammotion.com/ or by following @GrahamMotion on Twitter.


How is life different today for Graham Motion than it was a year ago before you won the Kentucky Derby?
That’s the thing people always ask. It is life changing in some ways. It’s something you’ll always be known as, trainer of a Kentucky Derby winner. It is a legacy, and we all want to be remembered for something. It’s very gratifying. But has it changed my day-to-day life? No, I don’t think so.

What have been the biggest surprises and best experiences that were associated with your Kentucky Derby win?
The attention is extraordinary. Those two weeks after the Derby, no one could possibly prepare you for that. The media attention and the fact that you have the only horse that has the chance to win the Triple Crown, it’s quite a responsibility.  Andy Reid (head coach of the NFL’s Philadelphia Eagles) came out to watch Animal Kingdom train, and that was really cool. Later in the year he invited me to an Eagles practice, and I got to spend some time with him and see the pressure he was under. Those coaches are in a different world of day-to-day pressure. After Animal Kingdom won the other day he sent me a text.

You get a lot of respect when people see you can train a Kentucky Derby winner. I’m not doing anything differently than I ever was, and I’m not going to change anything. I never had this great allure to win the Derby – and that’s not belittling it in any way. After two experiences before, I said I wouldn’t go there if I don’t belong, and I still won’t.

How is Animal Kingdom doing after winning his comeback race on Saturday?

Great. He’s perky. He’s himself. (Sunday) I thought he was a little tired. He is a very hard horse to read. He’s very laid-back, almost lethargic. But I think it’s part of what makes him such a good horse.

What were your biggest concerns going into that race?
You always question yourself about fitness. Have I done enough? I felt he was 90% where I wanted him to be. I thought he should be good enough to carry the extra 10%.

What’s the travel plan for the Dubai World Cup?
I haven’t wanted to focus on it until we got through this past weekend. Now that we have, I’d better start planning. I’d imagine we’d go out 10 days to two weeks before the race. You’re in their hands, really.

Your Breeders’ Cup Turf winner Better Talk Now had quite a health scare last year. How is he doing?
He’s great now. As quickly as he got sick from botulism, he recovered just as quickly. He’s with us at Fair Hill, and gets turned out every day in a paddock.

Do you prefer places like Palm Meadows and Fair Hill to racetrack stable areas?
The options are so much greater. This place (Palm Meadows) is unique in the fact I can breeze on the grass once a week with a horse like this. Coming up under Jonathan Sheppard, I’m looking to do things differently out of the box. I try not to do things so much in a routine, to find things horses like to do every day. Fair Hill and Palm Meadows have to be two of the best training facilities in the country.

Is it more like your European roots?
That’s a small part of it, but it’s mostly being with Jonathan. That was my five years of college. That’s where I learned my trade and Bernie Bond put on the finishing touches. It’s all about getting the horse to relax. That’s what I learned to do with Jonathan. Keep them relaxed and in a happy environment. Racetracks are very limiting in what you can do with a horse. The atmosphere at tracks can be very intense, and the horses can never get a break.

What can U.S. racing learn from Europe that might benefit us?
I think we can all learn from each other. I wish we could take the best from both worlds. In England racing is so ingrained in people. Everybody knows about horse racing, where in this country it has such a small following. As a kid, it was such a big deal to watch the races on BBC every Saturday afternoon.  It’s more about the horse than the betting in England. Plenty of people go racing in England for the sport.

Is there anything European racing can learn from the U.S.?
One thing people (in England) always ask me about are the claiming races. It’s so much of the structure of what we do. There is a downside, but it is what allows a guy to get into the game. It works. It might help them. In Europe, the handicapping situation is so difficult. Horses become so penalized. We have a structure here where horses have allowance conditions they can go through. There you go into handicaps right away.

Your stable is great in communicating to the public through the website and Twitter. Why do you make that effort?

I think it’s important. The biggest problem we have with racing in this country is that nobody wants to talk about it except for the two weeks around the Kentucky Derby. I felt a responsibility to feed that. If I don’t help out, who will? Newspapers don’t cover racing anymore. My thing with Twitter and the website is just trying to put the information out there. If it catches on or garnishes a little bit of attention, then that’s great.

I see other sports, other athletes doing this. We need to keep up with the times. We are so secretive, especially trainers, and it’s so unnecessary. I try not to be secretive about what we are doing.

Team Valor’s Barry Irwin has said he can’t convince you that you don’t need Lasix on raceday. Why is that?

My problem with doing away with Lasix is that we’re going to go back to how it was before in New York (the last state to permit the drug), where everybody is trying to use things under the table that nobody knows about.  I honestly don’t believe that in some of these other countries people don’t use alternative medications to Lasix. It’s better the devil you know than the devil you don’t know. Most horses bleed to a degree. Lasix is one medication that we know helps horses that have this hemorrhaging. My feeling is let’s control the administration like they do in Canada. 5 cc’s are to be given by a state veterinarian. If we do away with Lasix, we’d better step up security big time. No one’s going to like that.  You cannot tell me that people are not going to use other things.

Are you suggesting the rest of the world should adopt our rules?
That’s a tough point. No, I’m not. In England, everyone gives Lasix up to the race, then they take it away. A lot of it comes to the horsemanship side.

We are so much more proactive over here in scoping our horses. I want to be on top of our horses. When we consider a horse to bleed, it might just have a spot in his lungs. In many places bleeding is only identified if it’s external.

If you could make one change about racing, what would it be?
I think probably the most important thing is the fact that we don’t have a national standard for things – medication, licensing. It’s the root of a lot of positives because of the different withdrawal times and test levels. We have a lot of positives in this country, not because we have mischievous people. It’s because we have so many standards to go by. It’s medication, testing, licensing standards. They need to be national.

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  • Ted Mudge

    First class interview with a first class trainer. thank you

  • Ted Mudge

    First class interview with a first class trainer. thank you

  • Noelle

    Saying that Lasix shouldn’t be banned here because people will
    inevitably cheat doesn’t seem like the right approach.  It certainly sounds like Motion thinks the drug-free Europeans are
    all cheating one way or another.  Very disappointing, if true.  

     

    Gina Rarick, could you comment?  

    After the Derby I had the impression that Motion was more in favor of the natural horse – hay, oats, water and no drugs other than those needed to treat illness.  Maybe that was Barry Irwin.

  • Noelle

    Saying that Lasix shouldn’t be banned here because people will
    inevitably cheat doesn’t seem like the right approach.  It certainly sounds like Motion thinks the drug-free Europeans are
    all cheating one way or another.  Very disappointing, if true.  

     

    Gina Rarick, could you comment?  

    After the Derby I had the impression that Motion was more in favor of the natural horse – hay, oats, water and no drugs other than those needed to treat illness.  Maybe that was Barry Irwin.

  • matt m

    In direct opposition to his loud-mouth owner as far as the “Lasix issue” is concerned, the humble Motion is the polar opposite of Irwin, and that’s a good thing.

  • matt m

    In direct opposition to his loud-mouth owner as far as the “Lasix issue” is concerned, the humble Motion is the polar opposite of Irwin, and that’s a good thing.

  • Don Reed

    Altogether he represents racing at its finest; entrusted with this responsibility, he wears it lightly.  What great instincts. 

    We had the honor of – not knowing that it would occur, I speak in retrospect – meeting his wife and children at Delaware, I believe in 2009, when the “retirement” cremony for Larry Jone was being held (by pure accident, we were there that day, thinking that it was just another day.  What a pleasure it was to initially misinformed & – by fate – guided into a special day).

    I told her that someday, her husband would be honored in the same fashion, and with the same robust warmth & sincereity (a tone rarely encountered and prized highly).

    Trainer Michael Matz was a witness to this spontaneous tribute (we all had been accidently sitting together in one spot in the stands).  I am certain that he felt exactly the same way.

    That’s one of my best racing memories, which had nothing (& will never have anything) to do with cashing a ticket.

  • Don Reed

    Altogether he represents racing at its finest; entrusted with this responsibility, he wears it lightly.  What great instincts. 

    We had the honor of – not knowing that it would occur, I speak in retrospect – meeting his wife and children at Delaware, I believe in 2009, when the “retirement” cremony for Larry Jone was being held (by pure accident, we were there that day, thinking that it was just another day.  What a pleasure it was to initially misinformed & – by fate – guided into a special day).

    I told her that someday, her husband would be honored in the same fashion, and with the same robust warmth & sincereity (a tone rarely encountered and prized highly).

    Trainer Michael Matz was a witness to this spontaneous tribute (we all had been accidently sitting together in one spot in the stands).  I am certain that he felt exactly the same way.

    That’s one of my best racing memories, which had nothing (& will never have anything) to do with cashing a ticket.

  • Takethat

    “Jerkins pointed to a fitter, sturdier animal as another reason why bleeding was considered atypical in the 1950′a and 1960′s.”

    http://www.drf.com/news/lasix-demystifying-drug-methods-training-without-it

    The ‘horsemen’ don’t want to spend the time and effort on getting horses fit as time is money. They want to train in an industrial manner. The backstretch gulag is the perfect location for these equine cost accountants.

    “Racetracks are very limiting in what you can do with a horse. The atmosphere at tracks can be very intense, and the horses can never get a break”

    He is being very kind in his comments.

  • Takethat

    “Jerkins pointed to a fitter, sturdier animal as another reason why bleeding was considered atypical in the 1950′a and 1960′s.”

    http://www.drf.com/news/lasix-

    The ‘horsemen’ don’t want to spend the time and effort on getting horses fit as time is money. They want to train in an industrial manner. The backstretch gulag is the perfect location for these equine cost accountants.

    “Racetracks are very limiting in what you can do with a horse. The atmosphere at tracks can be very intense, and the horses can never get a break”

    He is being very kind in his comments.

  • concerned

    the fans are the profit.  with them there is no racing or breeding.  
    start making them the focus.   when will they ever learn.
    its business 1 A.   

  • concerned

    the fans are the profit.  with them there is no racing or breeding.  
    start making them the focus.   when will they ever learn.
    its business 1 A.

  • Stanley inman

    Wow,
    Kentucky derby winning trainer Advocating “needle in neck” training regiment.
    Graham, you’d better have a big padlock on the barn doors, to stop the mass exodus.

  • Stanley inman

    Wow,
    Kentucky derby winning trainer Advocating “needle in neck” training regiment.
    Graham, you’d better have a big padlock on the barn doors, to stop the mass exodus.

  • http://twitter.com/Garp74 D R Huberman

    First off, thank you for this excellent interview with an excellent horseman and man.

    Unfortunately, Mr. Motion’s argument for Lasix is illogical.  It does not logically stand that continuing to use and regulate Lasix will stop trainers and vets from using the substances he says they will use if Lasix is no longer used.  Indeed, we have plenty of evidence that trainers and vets already use those substances.  The argument is not persuasive. :(

    • Stanley inman

      Thank you d.r.huberman for pointing out graham’s illogical arguement for raceday meds.
      I would like to “join-up”.
      Graham,
      what’s the difference between
      Giving drugs for sexual favors or giving drugs to win a race. both produce pleasure, and both produce victims; (someday both will be outlawed.)
      Who speaks for the horse?
      Who speaks for all trainers, owners, grooms, fanswho think any sporting contest that allows contestants to compete while medicated can’t be expected to be taken seriously.
      You would agree with that wouldn’t you?

  • http://twitter.com/Garp74 D R Huberman

    First off, thank you for this excellent interview with an excellent horseman and man.

    Unfortunately, Mr. Motion’s argument for Lasix is illogical.  It does not logically stand that continuing to use and regulate Lasix will stop trainers and vets from using the substances he says they will use if Lasix is no longer used.  Indeed, we have plenty of evidence that trainers and vets already use those substances.  The argument is not persuasive. :(

  • Stanley inman

    Thank you d.r.huberman for pointing out graham’s illogical arguement for raceday meds.
    I would like to “join-up”.
    Graham,
    what’s the difference between
    Giving drugs for sexual favors or giving drugs to win a race. both produce pleasure, and both produce victims; (someday both will be outlawed.)
    Who speaks for the horse?
    Who speaks for all trainers, owners, grooms, fanswho think any sporting contest that allows contestants to compete while medicated can’t be expected to be taken seriously.
    You would agree with that wouldn’t you?

  • FourCats

    Graham Motion seems like a fine person and a good trainer.  However, there are a few points on which I disagree with him.

    He seems to imply that if Lasix is taken away, everybody will try to sneak in something else under the table.  I’m a small-time owner, and I’ve never cheated in any way whatsover.  Nor has anyone else that I’m personally aware of.  I realize that there are some people who will cheat, but the idea that everyone involved is a cheater is simply factually false.  The people who I know that own racehorses started as fans and wanted to be more involved by owning.  Of course, everyone wants a successful horse that wins a lot of money.  But, no one buys a horse as an investment; not unless you’re crazy.  The reality is that most owners lose money (lots of it).  It’s a known fact that the total dollar amount of purse money in U.S. racing is only about half of what it costs to keep the horses in training.

    I also don’t agree about claiming races.  I would prefer that they went away.  There are many other ways to balance fields of lower-caliber horses without putting them up for sale.  As a small-time owner, I always worry about losing my horse that my trainer has worked so hard to make successful; simply because the horse doesn’t have enough talent to compete in non-claiming races.  Claiming races also encourage unethical people into racing unfit or unhealthy horses so that they can be claimed away.  Mr. Motion apparently thinks that claiming races are an overall positive because they allow a small-time person to “get in the game”.  Nonsense.  Anyone can buy a horse at an auction.  Many are sold for as low as $1,000 (much less than any claiming price).

    I do like his view of training at training centers.  The backside of racetracks has many negatives for training horses.  The horses can only work out early in the morning when the racetrack allows it.  There is no place for the horses to be turned out during the day which forces them to be stall-bound for 22-23 hrs a day.  Being in the stall that long is a negative on their fitness and can also give them breathing issues due to mold and dust.  Not to mention that it adds boredom to many horses.  Also, while I agree that you should support the local racetrack, many tracks use the fact that a horse is stalled on the track to pressure the trainer into not racing at other tracks (even when appropriate) and worse, to pressure the trainer to fill races with horses in unsuitable spots.  Unfortunately, in this country, there are simply not enough training centers to take many of the race horses.  And the horses that do get to go there are typically owned by large, wealthy stables.  They are generally not interested in small-time owners.

  • FourCats

    Graham Motion seems like a fine person and a good trainer.  However, there are a few points on which I disagree with him.

    He seems to imply that if Lasix is taken away, everybody will try to sneak in something else under the table.  I’m a small-time owner, and I’ve never cheated in any way whatsover.  Nor has anyone else that I’m personally aware of.  I realize that there are some people who will cheat, but the idea that everyone involved is a cheater is simply factually false.  The people who I know that own racehorses started as fans and wanted to be more involved by owning.  Of course, everyone wants a successful horse that wins a lot of money.  But, no one buys a horse as an investment; not unless you’re crazy.  The reality is that most owners lose money (lots of it).  It’s a known fact that the total dollar amount of purse money in U.S. racing is only about half of what it costs to keep the horses in training.

    I also don’t agree about claiming races.  I would prefer that they went away.  There are many other ways to balance fields of lower-caliber horses without putting them up for sale.  As a small-time owner, I always worry about losing my horse that my trainer has worked so hard to make successful; simply because the horse doesn’t have enough talent to compete in non-claiming races.  Claiming races also encourage unethical people into racing unfit or unhealthy horses so that they can be claimed away.  Mr. Motion apparently thinks that claiming races are an overall positive because they allow a small-time person to “get in the game”.  Nonsense.  Anyone can buy a horse at an auction.  Many are sold for as low as $1,000 (much less than any claiming price).

    I do like his view of training at training centers.  The backside of racetracks has many negatives for training horses.  The horses can only work out early in the morning when the racetrack allows it.  There is no place for the horses to be turned out during the day which forces them to be stall-bound for 22-23 hrs a day.  Being in the stall that long is a negative on their fitness and can also give them breathing issues due to mold and dust.  Not to mention that it adds boredom to many horses.  Also, while I agree that you should support the local racetrack, many tracks use the fact that a horse is stalled on the track to pressure the trainer into not racing at other tracks (even when appropriate) and worse, to pressure the trainer to fill races with horses in unsuitable spots.  Unfortunately, in this country, there are simply not enough training centers to take many of the race horses.  And the horses that do get to go there are typically owned by large, wealthy stables.  They are generally not interested in small-time owners.

  • McGov

    Great interview.  I completely agree with bringing horses along nice and slow and keeping the daily routine fresh and interesting for the horse.  Near impossible to accomplish at the racetrack.  It’s great to see a trainer like Motion win the Derby and I hope he has much more success.  He’s doing things the right way and is an excellent role model for the next generation of trainers.

  • McGov

    Great interview.  I completely agree with bringing horses along nice and slow and keeping the daily routine fresh and interesting for the horse.  Near impossible to accomplish at the racetrack.  It’s great to see a trainer like Motion win the Derby and I hope he has much more success.  He’s doing things the right way and is an excellent role model for the next generation of trainers.

  • Joseph Pollino

    Before lasix in NY horses got ungodly amount of drugs prior to raceday to try and combat bleeding. Lasix has cut way down on that. Sure it sounds good to say take away lasix, but only to those who never actually trained horses.

  • Joseph Pollino

    Before lasix in NY horses got ungodly amount of drugs prior to raceday to try and combat bleeding. Lasix has cut way down on that. Sure it sounds good to say take away lasix, but only to those who never actually trained horses.

  • Grarick

    Noelle (and Fourcats) – I have to disagree, also, with his perception that everyone will “cheat” if not allowed Lasix, and I strongly disagree with his blanket statement that ‘everyone’ in England (and the rest of Europe, one assumes) uses Lasix until raceday and then runs without it. Most trainers here in France absolutely do NOT train on Lasix. As for “other solutions,” yes, we all do things to try to manage a bleeder. But with the stringent anti-medication rules, we are very careful about what we do, and the most important thing is to keep the horse well-condition and stress-free, which brings up the horsemanship side.

    Personally, I am just finishing up a meeting at the track in Cagnes-sur-Mer, near Nice, and this is the one time of year when our training mimics that of America, because we are all stabled on site for six weeks. I brought five horses. One of them showed signs of a bleeding issue (nothing external, but coughing after a race and not finishing correctly). I had her scoped, and we did have a small problem. I treated her with an anti-biotic aimed at respiratory infections, in case we had an issue there, and I gave her an IV dose of a drug called Iodure, which is a form of iodine, 24 hours before her race. I cut back feed slightly, and withdrew water six hours before post time (not 24 hours, as some trainers do and I find barbaric). She ran much better and showed no signs of respiratory problems. Still not in the money, but she finished her race correctly. I’ll give her another shot in a couple of weeks, but if the problem looks like it will persist, she will be retired. None of the other horses showed any signs of bleeding, and they all ran places (but didn’t win, unfortunately; not quite good enough, but that can’t be solved through medication).

  • Grarick

    Noelle (and Fourcats) – I have to disagree, also, with his perception that everyone will “cheat” if not allowed Lasix, and I strongly disagree with his blanket statement that ‘everyone’ in England (and the rest of Europe, one assumes) uses Lasix until raceday and then runs without it. Most trainers here in France absolutely do NOT train on Lasix. As for “other solutions,” yes, we all do things to try to manage a bleeder. But with the stringent anti-medication rules, we are very careful about what we do, and the most important thing is to keep the horse well-condition and stress-free, which brings up the horsemanship side.

    Personally, I am just finishing up a meeting at the track in Cagnes-sur-Mer, near Nice, and this is the one time of year when our training mimics that of America, because we are all stabled on site for six weeks. I brought five horses. One of them showed signs of a bleeding issue (nothing external, but coughing after a race and not finishing correctly). I had her scoped, and we did have a small problem. I treated her with an anti-biotic aimed at respiratory infections, in case we had an issue there, and I gave her an IV dose of a drug called Iodure, which is a form of iodine, 24 hours before her race. I cut back feed slightly, and withdrew water six hours before post time (not 24 hours, as some trainers do and I find barbaric). She ran much better and showed no signs of respiratory problems. Still not in the money, but she finished her race correctly. I’ll give her another shot in a couple of weeks, but if the problem looks like it will persist, she will be retired. None of the other horses showed any signs of bleeding, and they all ran places (but didn’t win, unfortunately; not quite good enough, but that can’t be solved through medication).

  • Barry Irwin

    I like Gina and knew her before she was a trainer when she was strictly a journalist. She is an honest, well-intentioned woman. And I believe what what she wrote about what trainers in France do. However, when it comes to respiratory analysis and understanding, European trainers are about a quarter century behind their American counterparts. Very few horses that bleed do so externally. Regular scoping of horses, as is done only in America, helps vets and trainers monitor the breathing aparatus of our horses and allows the people in charge of their welfare to be proactive in keeping them healthy. So when a “foreign” trainer says that their horses don’t bleed much, they in most instances would be the last people to know.

    • Noelle

      I’m sure you are well-intentioned too.  I enjoy/appreciate your comments and I understand your inclination to defend Graham Motion, although I notice you didn’t defend raceday Lasix injections.  Routine scoping is one thing and routine raceday Lasix is another.  Easier to say the Europeans are clueless than to consider what Lasix has done and is doing to American racing.  

      By routinely dosing American horses with Lasix, and repeating over and over that racehorses “need” it in order to run, the American pro-Lasix lobby is arguing not only that the foreigners who have banned Lasix are practicing animal cruelty but also that horses, in their natural state, are not physically capable of racing.  

      If horses are in fact not physically capable of racing unless they are on drugs, then horseracing as an acceptable “sport” does not have a great longterm future in America.  

      I prefer to believe that the pro-Lasix lobby is wrong, that Thoroughbreds  were born to run, that some Thoroughbreds, like some humans, are better physical specimens than others, that those who aren’t naturally capable of racing drug-free should be retired, and that raceday Lasix should be banned in the US.

      • Grarick

         Noelle, I think you’ve hit the nail on the head when you say horses shouldn’t be physically incapable of racing drug-free. If that is the species we have bred as the modern thoroughbred, it’s time to stop. But I don’t think we’ve done that. Common sense has to prevail.

      • Barry Irwin

        Noelle, I don’t defend anybody and I am against ALL drugs and want Lasix banned for many reasons, the most important being that we need to improve the sport’s perception in the public.

        • Noelle

          Bravo!

    • Grarick

       Thanks, Barry…I’ll take that as a compliment, although I now know why you’ll never send me a horse to train! I don’t think we’re as clueless as you think, though, about respiratory issues and I also don’t believe in scoping horses every time they do a bit of work – repeated scoping can do a considerable amount of damage on its own. I think strong observation and horsemanship can go a long way toward managing the situation. But that’s just me.

      • Barry Irwin

        Sounds like old time trainers talking about bowed tendons AFTER the advent of ultra-sound equipment. Unless you are related to Super Man or Super Woman, you cannot see inside of a horse or a tendon.

        • Grarick

           Now, Barry, any good horseman(woman) will tell you that you certainly do not need an ultrasound to know you have a bowed tendon, but it is certainly useful for determining the extent of the problem. I feel the same way about scoping. So I take it as a compliment that you put me in the “old time trainers” group.

  • Barry Irwin

    I like Gina and knew her before she was a trainer when she was strictly a journalist. She is an honest, well-intentioned woman. And I believe what what she wrote about what trainers in France do. However, when it comes to respiratory analysis and understanding, European trainers are about a quarter century behind their American counterparts. Very few horses that bleed do so externally. Regular scoping of horses, as is done only in America, helps vets and trainers monitor the breathing aparatus of our horses and allows the people in charge of their welfare to be proactive in keeping them healthy. So when a “foreign” trainer says that their horses don’t bleed much, they in most instances would be the last people to know.

  • SteveG

    It’s praiseworthy, that despite jurisdictional regulatory inconsistencies in regard to med withdrawals – inconsistencies that seem to baffle many of his peers – Mr. Motion has a spotless record with nary a single positive.
     
    It makes one wonder if, in a standardized enviroment, the same indviduals who step over the line now because they push the envelope (not because they are befuddled by various withdrawals, calendars, clocks & spreadsheets) would continue to ring up positives as they continue to push the envelop.  To portray the reason for myriad positives as administrative error, as Graham does, rather than the product of a (legal) drug-culture at the track, is very forgiving.
     
    While a national policy for meds makes eminent sense, perhaps the true path lies in a more conservative 1st line approach in training & racing than resorting to the grab-bag of available pharmaceuticals in otherwise healthy racehorses.
     
    Without knowing for sure, I have to imagine such a conservative approach & erring on the side of caution when meds are used, is likely the reason Mr. Motion’s record with meds is so clean.

  • SteveG

    It’s praiseworthy, that despite jurisdictional regulatory inconsistencies in regard to med withdrawals – inconsistencies that seem to baffle many of his peers – Mr. Motion has a spotless record with nary a single positive.
     
    It makes one wonder if, in a standardized enviroment, the same indviduals who step over the line now because they push the envelope (not because they are befuddled by various withdrawals, calendars, clocks & spreadsheets) would continue to ring up positives as they continue to push the envelop.  To portray the reason for myriad positives as administrative error, as Graham does, rather than the product of a (legal) drug-culture at the track, is very forgiving.
     
    While a national policy for meds makes eminent sense, perhaps the true path lies in a more conservative 1st line approach in training & racing than resorting to the grab-bag of available pharmaceuticals in otherwise healthy racehorses.
     
    Without knowing for sure, I have to imagine such a conservative approach & erring on the side of caution when meds are used, is likely the reason Mr. Motion’s record with meds is so clean.

  • Noelle

    I’m sure you are well-intentioned too.  I enjoy/appreciate your comments and I understand your inclination to defend Graham Motion, although I notice you didn’t defend raceday Lasix injections.  Routine scoping is one thing and routine raceday Lasix is another.  Easier to say the Europeans are clueless than to consider what Lasix has done and is doing to American racing.  

    By routinely dosing American horses with Lasix, and repeating over and over that racehorses “need” it in order to run, the American pro-Lasix lobby is arguing not only that the foreigners who have banned Lasix are practicing animal cruelty but also that horses, in their natural state, are not physically capable of racing.  

    If horses are in fact not physically capable of racing unless they are on drugs, then horseracing as an acceptable “sport” does not have a great longterm future in America.  

    I prefer to believe that the pro-Lasix lobby is wrong, that Thoroughbreds  were born to run, that some Thoroughbreds, like some humans, are better physical specimens than others, that those who aren’t naturally capable of racing drug-free should be retired, and that raceday Lasix should be banned in the US.

  • Grarick

    Thanks, Barry…I’ll take that as a compliment, although I now know why you’ll never send me a horse to train! I don’t think we’re as clueless as you think, though, about respiratory issues and I also don’t believe in scoping horses every time they do a bit of work – repeated scoping can do a considerable amount of damage on its own. I think strong observation and horsemanship can go a long way toward managing the situation. But that’s just me.

  • Grarick

    Noelle, I think you’ve hit the nail on the head when you say horses shouldn’t be physically incapable of racing drug-free. If that is the species we have bred as the modern thoroughbred, it’s time to stop. But I don’t think we’ve done that. Common sense has to prevail.

  • Barry Irwin

    Sounds like old time trainers talking about bowed tendons AFTER the advent of ultra-sound equipment. Unless you are related to Super Man or Super Woman, you cannot see inside of a horse or a tendon.

  • Barry Irwin

    Noelle, I don’t defend anybody and I am against ALL drugs and want Lasix banned for many reasons, the most important being that we need to improve the sport’s perception in the public.

  • Grarick

    Now, Barry, any good horseman(woman) will tell you that you certainly do not need an ultrasound to know you have a bowed tendon, but it is certainly useful for determining the extent of the problem. I feel the same way about scoping. So I take it as a compliment that you put me in the “old time trainers” group.

  • Noelle

    Bravo!

  • Richard Kasoff Lv

    One might ask the question why lasix usage began. “Some” trainers began user lasix as a masking agent. One might ask what they were trying to hide?

    Pre-lasix, top horses would race 15-25 times yearly. Now, maybe they’ll race 8-10 times a year.

    Now with HGH, EPO, and “milkshakes ” the task is much more difficult. Does anyone wonder why at some major racetracks there are cases of Gatorade, and boxes of baking soda?
    Viola, a milkshake.

    We have made a joke of our breed. With lasix, which like any medication one can build up a tolerance for, or to, respiratory conditions can be treated with either antibiotics and or prednisone

  • Richard Kasoff Lv

    One might ask the question why lasix usage began. “Some” trainers began user lasix as a masking agent. One might ask what they were trying to hide?

    Pre-lasix, top horses would race 15-25 times yearly. Now, maybe they’ll race 8-10 times a year.

    Now with HGH, EPO, and “milkshakes ” the task is much more difficult. Does anyone wonder why at some major racetracks there are cases of Gatorade, and boxes of baking soda?
    Viola, a milkshake.

    We have made a joke of our breed. With lasix, which like any medication one can build up a tolerance for, or to, respiratory conditions can be treated with either antibiotics and or prednisone

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