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		<title>By: Paulick Report &#187; Blog Archive &#187; THE WEEK THAT WAS: JULY 6-12</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paulick Report &#187; Blog Archive &#187; THE WEEK THAT WAS: JULY 6-12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] rewrite of the story later that day, which didn&#8217;t go down too well with us. A Paulick Report follow-up focused on the two leading industry trade publications, including Bloodhorse, where I served for 15 years, touching on the cozy relationship those [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] rewrite of the story later that day, which didn&#8217;t go down too well with us. A Paulick Report follow-up focused on the two leading industry trade publications, including Bloodhorse, where I served for 15 years, touching on the cozy relationship those [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For "Tony Donovan"....Gee, I've been criticized for many things, but you want to send me to jail because I gave  "no talent Steve Haskin a job and unleashed his nonsense on unsuspecting and now nauseated readers"?

Steve is not only one of the most knowledgeable and passionate horse racing writers in the game today, he has the largest following, by far, of any of the writers at Bloodhorse. He's won numerous awards for his work, and I can tell you that no one puts more into his or her writing than Steve.

 To badly paraphrase from Nathan Hale, "I regret that I had only one Steve Haskin to hire for my (then) publication." I won't go quite so far as Patrick Henry and say "Give me Haskin or give me death," but he's a good man who doesn't deserve the kind of cheap and anonymous insult you have delivered.

By the way, I'm still awaiting those few pennies you promised you would send to support the Paulick Report. I guess you're not a man of your word, "Tony."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For &#8220;Tony Donovan&#8221;&#8230;.Gee, I&#8217;ve been criticized for many things, but you want to send me to jail because I gave  &#8220;no talent Steve Haskin a job and unleashed his nonsense on unsuspecting and now nauseated readers&#8221;?</p>
<p>Steve is not only one of the most knowledgeable and passionate horse racing writers in the game today, he has the largest following, by far, of any of the writers at Bloodhorse. He&#8217;s won numerous awards for his work, and I can tell you that no one puts more into his or her writing than Steve.</p>
<p> To badly paraphrase from Nathan Hale, &#8220;I regret that I had only one Steve Haskin to hire for my (then) publication.&#8221; I won&#8217;t go quite so far as Patrick Henry and say &#8220;Give me Haskin or give me death,&#8221; but he&#8217;s a good man who doesn&#8217;t deserve the kind of cheap and anonymous insult you have delivered.</p>
<p>By the way, I&#8217;m still awaiting those few pennies you promised you would send to support the Paulick Report. I guess you&#8217;re not a man of your word, &#8220;Tony.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Scrapiron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scrapiron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 04:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now I'm a day late and a dollar short (but then dollar isn't worth that much any way But many many years ago as a young man (I'm 73" ) Working cows and calf's in spring gather an a rider stepped down wif his reins wrapped around his wrist and this ol cowboy sitting on a horse next to me rolling a cigarette shook  his head and grinned at me and slyly  spoke to me and said something to this day Ive never forgotten "Ya know that man abuses the god given right of  being Stupid"  now this saying has come to my mind many times and I guess Ive done some stupid things to But taking a mans word (written or spoke) is like taking a mans wife and both can be a trap . . . .ride on Ray ride on and the "blessings" on you.
Scrapiron</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I&#8217;m a day late and a dollar short (but then dollar isn&#8217;t worth that much any way But many many years ago as a young man (I&#8217;m 73&#8243; ) Working cows and calf&#8217;s in spring gather an a rider stepped down wif his reins wrapped around his wrist and this ol cowboy sitting on a horse next to me rolling a cigarette shook  his head and grinned at me and slyly  spoke to me and said something to this day Ive never forgotten &#8220;Ya know that man abuses the god given right of  being Stupid&#8221;  now this saying has come to my mind many times and I guess Ive done some stupid things to But taking a mans word (written or spoke) is like taking a mans wife and both can be a trap . . . .ride on Ray ride on and the &#8220;blessings&#8221; on you.<br />
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		<title>By: Steve Davidowitz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Davidowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am reposting my previous commentary on this issue with spelling and syntax corrections privately pointed out by a friend who happens to be a professional editor. 
My appologies for the burden to the reader.
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A number of subtle issues were raised by this edition of Paulick Report.

And, it is good that you invite open critiques &#38; commentary.

Journalistically speaking, the attribution issue is a matter of ethics that certainly deserves discussion, but I believe it is something best left as a footnote to an authorâ€™s column, rather than be the central focus to a first person â€™see-what-they-did-to-meâ€™ column. 

On the other hand, an author could get really deep into this issue if he or she decided to address this on behalf of other writers, not merely using the forum to criticize something tinged by oneâ€™s own disappointment or anger. 

Like most who professionally write about racing (or anything for that matter), I have had a multitude of handicapping ideas, professional insights &#38; outright scoops co-opted without attribution by others through the years. 

Yet, never did it seem worthwhile to point out the specifics of these omissions in any first person column. (A personal comment directly made to the writer or publication seemed a better option.)

I believe that use of your column/newsletter to get out your own disappointment &#38;/or anger towards publications for which you may have residual negative feelings, can corrupt the central point you are trying to make. 

The issue is real of course, but best to make your points on behalf of someone else, not yourself, if you want such an indictment to stick.

Perhaps you could support the point additionally via some of your own anecdotal truths, but when you attack these publications for leaving you out of the attribution mix, I think you invite a small minded war &#38; diminish the fair minded potential of a journalistically-sound-opinion report.

The small minded wars between such publications are counterproductive on many levels.
Some examples: 

* Even very good books written by Blood Horse authors are rarely if ever, reviewed in Thoroughbred Times.

* Books written by DRF authors rarely get mentioned in Blood Horse &#38; prominent Blood Horse writers are barred from mentioning these books in their own opinion columns!

* The mere mention of a â€˜Beyer Speed Figureâ€™ in a TrackMaster column is edted [edited] out &#38; changed to â€˜Speed Figureâ€™ by Equibase paid editors, etc.. [delete 2nd period] All examples of these small minded wars; very silly stuff.

Your report covered the Congressional hearing superbly!
Your story on the Philly Park past posting was similarly first rate. 

At the core of it, you seem bent on creating a strong, independent journal of record.
Good for you! I do hope you succeed. 

The industry DOES have too much influence on the publications that cover it. That good point was imbedded in your report but muted somewhat by your personal â€™see-what-they-did-to-meâ€™ rant.

Consider this: Perhaps your central point &#38; your own personal perspective on it might have been more powerfully conveyed had you cited instances when you were forced to spin specific pieces as Editor of the BloodHorse.

At the bottom line, there are many racing fans, racing writers &#38; horse people who do wish you well &#38; support your intentions in this endeavor. 

Be assured that these comments were written with that in mind...

All the Best/Steve Davidowitz

 p.s. The corrections suggested and implemented certainly prove the value of a good editor as well as the need to be more careful, even if a spell check is not available to contributors to this forum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am reposting my previous commentary on this issue with spelling and syntax corrections privately pointed out by a friend who happens to be a professional editor.<br />
My appologies for the burden to the reader.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212; &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;- &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;- &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
A number of subtle issues were raised by this edition of Paulick Report.</p>
<p>And, it is good that you invite open critiques &amp; commentary.</p>
<p>Journalistically speaking, the attribution issue is a matter of ethics that certainly deserves discussion, but I believe it is something best left as a footnote to an authorâ€™s column, rather than be the central focus to a first person â€™see-what-they-did-to-meâ€™ column. </p>
<p>On the other hand, an author could get really deep into this issue if he or she decided to address this on behalf of other writers, not merely using the forum to criticize something tinged by oneâ€™s own disappointment or anger. </p>
<p>Like most who professionally write about racing (or anything for that matter), I have had a multitude of handicapping ideas, professional insights &amp; outright scoops co-opted without attribution by others through the years. </p>
<p>Yet, never did it seem worthwhile to point out the specifics of these omissions in any first person column. (A personal comment directly made to the writer or publication seemed a better option.)</p>
<p>I believe that use of your column/newsletter to get out your own disappointment &amp;/or anger towards publications for which you may have residual negative feelings, can corrupt the central point you are trying to make. </p>
<p>The issue is real of course, but best to make your points on behalf of someone else, not yourself, if you want such an indictment to stick.</p>
<p>Perhaps you could support the point additionally via some of your own anecdotal truths, but when you attack these publications for leaving you out of the attribution mix, I think you invite a small minded war &amp; diminish the fair minded potential of a journalistically-sound-opinion report.</p>
<p>The small minded wars between such publications are counterproductive on many levels.<br />
Some examples: </p>
<p>* Even very good books written by Blood Horse authors are rarely if ever, reviewed in Thoroughbred Times.</p>
<p>* Books written by DRF authors rarely get mentioned in Blood Horse &amp; prominent Blood Horse writers are barred from mentioning these books in their own opinion columns!</p>
<p>* The mere mention of a â€˜Beyer Speed Figureâ€™ in a TrackMaster column is edted [edited] out &amp; changed to â€˜Speed Figureâ€™ by Equibase paid editors, etc.. [delete 2nd period] All examples of these small minded wars; very silly stuff.</p>
<p>Your report covered the Congressional hearing superbly!<br />
Your story on the Philly Park past posting was similarly first rate. </p>
<p>At the core of it, you seem bent on creating a strong, independent journal of record.<br />
Good for you! I do hope you succeed. </p>
<p>The industry DOES have too much influence on the publications that cover it. That good point was imbedded in your report but muted somewhat by your personal â€™see-what-they-did-to-meâ€™ rant.</p>
<p>Consider this: Perhaps your central point &amp; your own personal perspective on it might have been more powerfully conveyed had you cited instances when you were forced to spin specific pieces as Editor of the BloodHorse.</p>
<p>At the bottom line, there are many racing fans, racing writers &amp; horse people who do wish you well &amp; support your intentions in this endeavor. </p>
<p>Be assured that these comments were written with that in mind&#8230;</p>
<p>All the Best/Steve Davidowitz</p>
<p> p.s. The corrections suggested and implemented certainly prove the value of a good editor as well as the need to be more careful, even if a spell check is not available to contributors to this forum.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm with mike, i'm not convinced beyond a reasonable doubt that the TT actually got the tip from Paulick. And way to give a lecture on journalism ethics when you pass bad information about AP Indy from an (unconfirmed) 3rd-hand source.

Bravo indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with mike, i&#8217;m not convinced beyond a reasonable doubt that the TT actually got the tip from Paulick. And way to give a lecture on journalism ethics when you pass bad information about AP Indy from an (unconfirmed) 3rd-hand source.</p>
<p>Bravo indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Reed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terry: Thanks for the tip; very much appreciated.  I tried it; nothing worked.  Evidently, I need those newer versions of IE and FF browsers.

(It did adjust the size of the words typed on a Microsoft Word blank screen, but only downwards.  Another control + hit restored it to its previous size.  Interesting, but not helpful.) 

I'd be disposed to issue an apology to TT (as if they care), but they ignored my emails about the problem after they had revamped (trashed) their site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terry: Thanks for the tip; very much appreciated.  I tried it; nothing worked.  Evidently, I need those newer versions of IE and FF browsers.</p>
<p>(It did adjust the size of the words typed on a Microsoft Word blank screen, but only downwards.  Another control + hit restored it to its previous size.  Interesting, but not helpful.) </p>
<p>I&#8217;d be disposed to issue an apology to TT (as if they care), but they ignored my emails about the problem after they had revamped (trashed) their site.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Moore</title>
		<link>http://www.paulickreport.com/blog/thoroughbred-times-rip-off/comment-page-1/#comment-765</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 04:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don -- A lot of sites are dropping those links to increase text size now that the newer versions of Internet Explorer and Firefox browsers allow you to &lt;b&gt;press Control and the plus key to increase the size of the font.&lt;/b&gt;  Works well on Paulick Report, and pretty well on Thoroughbred Times site, too, though some of the ads start overlapping if you go super-big.

As for the article that started all of this, I gotta agree with Steve D -- more enlightening things could have been done with this post.  Hope we see better down the road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don &#8212; A lot of sites are dropping those links to increase text size now that the newer versions of Internet Explorer and Firefox browsers allow you to <b>press Control and the plus key to increase the size of the font.</b>  Works well on Paulick Report, and pretty well on Thoroughbred Times site, too, though some of the ads start overlapping if you go super-big.</p>
<p>As for the article that started all of this, I gotta agree with Steve D &#8212; more enlightening things could have been done with this post.  Hope we see better down the road.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Reed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 03:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. I'm glad someone else brought up this point; I'd forgotten all about it.

At the very onset of this incident, how could you possibly KNOW if you were, in fact, ripped off by The Thoroughbred Times ("TT")?

They used to - not too long ago - have a great site that was lively, colorful, informative, and most importantly, LEGIBLE.  

That's right.  At least one person at TT realized that their "type size" had to be large enough, so that people could actually read what their staff had written. 

Even if you know nothing about horse racing and can't tell the difference between a colt and a mare, I think you've already nailed what occurred next. 

That's correct.  Management started thinking.

(See Napoleonic invasion of Russia, 1812.)

Presto, a new site-design was rolled out.  And the type size was now microscopic, a (Freudian-slip) standard that has continued to this day.  

"TT" now stands for "tiny type."

Who persists in going to that site in 2008?  Unless they have an exclusive scoop (Edna Krabappel, in the Simpsons: "HA!"), the idea of dialing up the T-Times is none other than Exhibit A in the psychiatric report recommending your one-way trip to Bellevue.

(Ray, if you can arrange it for your reader's letters to adjustable type size, that would be great.  If ESPN - the largest collection of dolts under one American roof - can swing this, it can't be that difficult to install.) 

Hey, enough.  Del Mar opens on July 16th, and right now, it feels just like that wonderful anticipatory sensation I used to have when we'd get on the train at Penn Station (before NYRA wrecked Saratoga).  

See you there on the 26th of July!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. I&#8217;m glad someone else brought up this point; I&#8217;d forgotten all about it.</p>
<p>At the very onset of this incident, how could you possibly KNOW if you were, in fact, ripped off by The Thoroughbred Times (&#8221;TT&#8221;)?</p>
<p>They used to - not too long ago - have a great site that was lively, colorful, informative, and most importantly, LEGIBLE.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s right.  At least one person at TT realized that their &#8220;type size&#8221; had to be large enough, so that people could actually read what their staff had written. </p>
<p>Even if you know nothing about horse racing and can&#8217;t tell the difference between a colt and a mare, I think you&#8217;ve already nailed what occurred next. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s correct.  Management started thinking.</p>
<p>(See Napoleonic invasion of Russia, 1812.)</p>
<p>Presto, a new site-design was rolled out.  And the type size was now microscopic, a (Freudian-slip) standard that has continued to this day.  </p>
<p>&#8220;TT&#8221; now stands for &#8220;tiny type.&#8221;</p>
<p>Who persists in going to that site in 2008?  Unless they have an exclusive scoop (Edna Krabappel, in the Simpsons: &#8220;HA!&#8221;), the idea of dialing up the T-Times is none other than Exhibit A in the psychiatric report recommending your one-way trip to Bellevue.</p>
<p>(Ray, if you can arrange it for your reader&#8217;s letters to adjustable type size, that would be great.  If ESPN - the largest collection of dolts under one American roof - can swing this, it can&#8217;t be that difficult to install.) </p>
<p>Hey, enough.  Del Mar opens on July 16th, and right now, it feels just like that wonderful anticipatory sensation I used to have when we&#8217;d get on the train at Penn Station (before NYRA wrecked Saratoga).  </p>
<p>See you there on the 26th of July!</p>
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		<title>By: Don Reed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 02:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, that's the way to handle a mistake.  Bravo!

Now, let's avoid more "crow" banquets - immediately stop relying on the following source: 

"According to the Association of Racing Commissioners International database, [Steve] Asmussen has a total of 74 rulings involving him, including a number of medication violations, dating back to 1990."

As seen with the ARCI figures involving Rich Dutrow, this organization employs illiterate incompetents who issue discipline and suspension reports that contain ridiculous multiple redundancies.

(I'm no fan of Rich Dutrow; I've publicly called for an immediate revocation of his training license for grossly slandering other trainers.) .

What's more, I've never seen any report with their name in it that actually lists the authors of the report or the executive who will publicly stand behind the report.  It's always "ARCI" this and "ARCI" that - as if the public has no interest in who actually is responsible for reporting what they consider factual information - i.e., listing a trainer as having been fined twice - with two identical fines - on a given date. 

Media reporters/editors who blindly rely on ARCI-provided information are courting inevitable embarrassment and the risk of destroying their own reputations for accuracy.

On another front, Ray, you're gotten off to a splendid start.  The Report's content is solid.  What's more, you seem to be one of the few people out there who understand that legibility is indispensible.  Your graphics are first-rate.  I proudly count myself as one of many who have mailed in a contribution to keep your Report rolling.

Regards,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, that&#8217;s the way to handle a mistake.  Bravo!</p>
<p>Now, let&#8217;s avoid more &#8220;crow&#8221; banquets - immediately stop relying on the following source: </p>
<p>&#8220;According to the Association of Racing Commissioners International database, [Steve] Asmussen has a total of 74 rulings involving him, including a number of medication violations, dating back to 1990.&#8221;</p>
<p>As seen with the ARCI figures involving Rich Dutrow, this organization employs illiterate incompetents who issue discipline and suspension reports that contain ridiculous multiple redundancies.</p>
<p>(I&#8217;m no fan of Rich Dutrow; I&#8217;ve publicly called for an immediate revocation of his training license for grossly slandering other trainers.) .</p>
<p>What&#8217;s more, I&#8217;ve never seen any report with their name in it that actually lists the authors of the report or the executive who will publicly stand behind the report.  It&#8217;s always &#8220;ARCI&#8221; this and &#8220;ARCI&#8221; that - as if the public has no interest in who actually is responsible for reporting what they consider factual information - i.e., listing a trainer as having been fined twice - with two identical fines - on a given date. </p>
<p>Media reporters/editors who blindly rely on ARCI-provided information are courting inevitable embarrassment and the risk of destroying their own reputations for accuracy.</p>
<p>On another front, Ray, you&#8217;re gotten off to a splendid start.  The Report&#8217;s content is solid.  What&#8217;s more, you seem to be one of the few people out there who understand that legibility is indispensible.  Your graphics are first-rate.  I proudly count myself as one of many who have mailed in a contribution to keep your Report rolling.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 00:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are we sure that Frank actually "ripped" the story off?  I mean, it seems from reading the story that he actually did some reporting of his own and called folks in Delaware, etc. -- it's not as if he did a cut-paste hack job.  Does Ray deserve a hat tip?  Maybe, but what's to say that the Tbred Times actually got the scoop from Ray?  Couldn't they have got an independent tip?

Also, Ray do I understand that the BH under your run ALWAYS credited other papers and trade mags (and blogs) with hat tips (i.e.: "as was first reported by X")?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are we sure that Frank actually &#8220;ripped&#8221; the story off?  I mean, it seems from reading the story that he actually did some reporting of his own and called folks in Delaware, etc. &#8212; it&#8217;s not as if he did a cut-paste hack job.  Does Ray deserve a hat tip?  Maybe, but what&#8217;s to say that the Tbred Times actually got the scoop from Ray?  Couldn&#8217;t they have got an independent tip?</p>
<p>Also, Ray do I understand that the BH under your run ALWAYS credited other papers and trade mags (and blogs) with hat tips (i.e.: &#8220;as was first reported by X&#8221;)?</p>
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