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Tuesday, February 2nd, 2010
It’s that time of year again. Turf writers, handicappers and bloggers get an extra early start on predicting who will be in the final field of 20 on that first Saturday in May. Is it premature? No doubt. Is the field set in any way? Not on your life. But part of the fun of any sport is to attempt to look into a crystal ball and predict the future.
Which brings us to the second annual Paulick Derby Index this year brought to you by the Simon family’s Vinery LTD. We would very much like to thank our sponsor for making this possible. Additionally, the impressive band of PDI voters, some old faces and some new, are what really make this AP Poll for the Derby Trail work. A special thank you from the Paulick Report to all 25 voters that are not currently on our staff!
Next week, look forward to a more in-depth analysis by Ray Paulick of his top ten and the opportunity for fans to vote on their favorites, thus adding a 28th vote to next week’s poll. We’ll be offering that opportunity Sunday night after the weekend’s races have been run in our daily poll located at www.paulickreport.com.
The list of contenders is wide open this week and should remain so for some time. Are you inclined to go with the early favorite in Lookin at Lucky or hoping for a repeat of last year and searching for the next Mine That Bird? Where did our poll go right? How would you have voted differently? Read through the poll and then let us know where you stand.
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Thursday, May 21st, 2009
By Ray Paulick
For the second time in five days, wagering on a horse race at an American racetrack was allowed to continue until after the contest had been run. The latest incident, which involved Wednesday night’s second race at Penn National in Pennsylvania, came on the heels of a tote system failure at Hollywood Park on Saturday.
The Penn National tote failure was similar to the Hollywood Park problem in that a stop-betting signal was not communicated when the race began. United Tote, which has the contract at the Penn National Gaming racetracks, experienced a system-wide failure, allowing on-track and simulcast wagers to continue during and after the running of the race. The Hollywood Park stop-betting signal from Scientific Games Racing tote equipment was not received by 33 simulcast sites.
John Pricci first wrote about the Penn National problem at Horse Race Insider.
United Tote personnel informed track officials about a communications router failure just as the second race was beginning, Chris McErlean, vice president of racing for Penn National, told the Paulick Report. “The stop betting command which is initiated here did not go out on track or anywhere in the network,” McErlean said. “The pools remained open and were opened well past the finish of the race.”
It was apparent wagers were made after the start of the race, but because United Tote cannot see details on every wager made, track officials were unable to segregate the late bets from those made before the race began, McErlean added. “We discussed with them the various scenarios and the best thing we could do was call the race a no-contest,” he said. “We took the position that the pools had been compromised, and based on the information we had at the time we took the most conservative path and made what we thought was the right decision.”
In Hollywood Park’s past-posting incident on Saturday, all wagers from the 33 sites where the stop-betting signal was not received were thrown out of the pari-mutuel pools and the money refunded to bettors who retained their tickets.
A total of $164,000 was wagered on the race, which McErlean said may have been a little higher than normal but not exceedingly so. All wagers were refunded, though horseplayers were kept in the dark for some time as to why the race was not declared official. Those who had losing bets may have discarded their tickets before the race was declared "no contest."
McErlean admitted that the decision was not communicated as well as it should have been across the wagering network. “I will say in terms of communication there was confusion,” he said. “The race was never made official. From a display point of view, the television monitors may have displayed official without tote prices. That was obviously not.”
The Pennsylania Horse Racing Commission and Thoroughbred Racing Protective Bureau were notified of the problems, McErlean said.
To his knowledge, this was the first time since McErlean joined Penn National Gaming in December 2006 that any of the company’s six tracks have experienced this type of problem. “It appears to be either networking or equipment failure involving a communications router ,” McErlean said. “The issue that has to be discussed and talked about is where is the potential safety valve if one system fails or one part fails. What is the backup or Plan B?”
Good question, and one racing regulators must demand from the tote companies that are jeopardizing the integrity of the wagering systems that are the foundation of this game.
Be sure to vote in today’s Daily Paulick Poll asking whether you have confidence in the security of the U.S. pari-mutuel wagering systems.
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Tuesday, April 28th, 2009
In a week that should have shown little movement in the rankings of the Paulick Derby Index by AmWest Entertainment, the Paulick Derby Index has actually shown some fluctuation as co-favorite Quality Road was withdrawn from the race on Monday because of complications resulting from a quarter crack. I Want Revenge, clearly now the favorite among our ballot stuffers, will lead a top ten that has lost some star power with several favorites not making the trip due to injury. That being said, this is still as strong a group as we have seen in years. The Derby this year should be an exciting one to watch with anywhere from 5-10 horses in legitimate contention.
You will also notice that the final week’s Paulick Derby Index by AmWest Entertainment features only the top ten contenders. We did this to put an onus on the top echelon of the field and make our last list more exclusive.
Finally, due to the fact that all ballots are submitted by 9 PM EST Monday night and well before Square Eddie’s withdrawal, you will see him on several ballots.
Will the PDI be the great predictor it portends to be on Saturday? Only time will tell.

1-Pioneerof the Nile. The Kentucky Derby is a tough race to win, even if everything goes your way, and it’s almost impossible for a horse to win if his training has been interrupted. Witness Unbridled’s Song, who battled foot problems coming up to the 1996 Derby, where he might have been the best horse but finished fifth while racing with a bar shoe on the problematic foot. If Quality Road’s connections felt their horse was sound and sent him to Louisville, I would have bet against him, simply because of the interruption in training. Everything has gone perfectly for Pioneerof the Nile: no interruptions in training due to bad weather or nagging injuries, and he is coming up to this race in the best form of his career. The Empire Maker colt has done everything asked of him, and I doubt trainer Bob Baffert would trade places with anybody.
2-I Want Revenge. It’s the horse, stupid. I’m no fan of trainer Jeff Mullins or the IEAH partners that bought into this son of Stephen Got Even, but I do like I Want Revenge. How can you not like a horse that does what he did to win the Wood Memorial after a disastrous start? The race before that, the Gotham Stakes, he showed enough early speed to press the pace and draw off in the stretch to a an easy victory. He is 0-for-2 against Pioneerof the Nile, though his first loss, by a nose in the Cash Call Futurity, was in his first start after breaking his maiden. I think he’ll be the betting favorite, but if Pioneerof the Nile beats I Want Revenge, people will be scratching their heads and wondering why.
3-Dunkirk. Todd Pletcher has kept the son of Unbridled’s Song under the radar, staying in Florida to train while the rest of the field is in Kentucky, and I don’t fault his logic that the track on Derby Day will likely be different from the surface everyone trained on in the weeks leading up to the race. Always seems to be that way. The colt has enormous talent, but there remains that issue of a lack of experience that has stopped many previous Derby contenders with a similar profile.
4-Friesan Fire. One thing we know: if it rains as expected, and the track is sloppy, Friesan Fire will be one happy horse. The A.P. Indy colt seemed to relish the sloppy Fair Grounds surface while winning the Louisiana Derby in a cakewalk. His training up to the race for Larry Jones has been sensational, and the only thing his resume lacks is a victory over tough competition.
5-Musket Man. Beating Giant Oak in the Illinois Derby was no great accomplishment (doesn’t somebody always beat Giant Oak?), but it’s hard to fault a horse with five wins in six starts. Yonaguska colt seems like the grinder type—not much early speed or quick mid-race acceleration—but if he gets a good enough trip under Eibar Coa I wouldn’t be shocked to see him in the top flight at the eighth pole.
6-Papa Clem. Won the Arkansas Derby coming from off the pace, but Smart Strike colt has enough speed to be close up in the early going and maybe even make the lead if no one else wants it. Gary Stute learned from his father, Mel, the West Coast wizard of speed, so a late-week blowout of two or three furlongs might be used to sharpen up Papa Clem after a series of longer works.
7-Chocolate Candy. Has only one way of going, settle in near the back of the field and make a late run, so you know that racing luck will play a role for Candy Ride colt. Hollendorfer has won the Kentucky Oaks twice (Lite Light in 1991 and Pike Place Dancer in1996), proving he can win at the top level of the game while being based in California’s “B Circuit” in the Bay Area. Training well, but has to have everything go his way for a victory.
8-Advice. Wise guys are asking how a horse that couldn’t win the Sunland Park Derby is going to win the Kentucky Derby. Real Quiet, who came within a nose of winning the 1998 Triple Crown, couldn’t win in New Mexico, either, finishing third there as a 2-year-old in a pair of races. Advice demonstrated some quality last year, finishing second but DQed and placed third in the Arlington-Washington Futurity, and his last to first rally in the Coolmore Lexington Stakes was eye-catching. But races were on Polytrack, however, and he has yet to prove himself on a conventional dirt track (though the same can be said of Pioneerof the Nile).
9-Desert Party. I like the way the son of Street Cry has trained since arriving from Dubai, but I’ve seen previous Godolphin horses looking sharp in the morning before fading on Derby afternoon. If this one is any different, he’ll win without my backing at the windows.
10-Mr. Hot Stuff. Have always thought this Tiznow colt was going to develop into a good one, but it’s taken longer than expected. He’ll be running late in the Derby, but I think he looks more like a Travers winner.
Ray Paulick
|
Fan Vote |
Alex Brown |
Paul Moran |
Billy Reed |
John Conte |
Bill Finley |
| Paulick Report |
Paulick Report |
Alex Brown Racing |
At The Races |
Billy Reed Says |
Conte’s Picks
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ESPN, NYT |
| Pioneerof the Nile |
I Want Revenge |
I Want Revenge |
Regal Ransom |
Pioneerof the Nile |
I Want Revenge |
I Want Revenge |
| I Want Revenge |
Friesan Fire |
Desert Party |
Desert Party |
I Want Revenge |
Dunkirk |
Friesan Fire |
| Dunkirk |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Musket Man |
I Want Revenge |
Quality Road |
Friesan Fire |
Dunkirk |
| Friesan Fire |
Dunkirk |
Regal Ransom |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Chocolate Candy |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Pioneerof the Nile |
| Musket Man |
General Quarters |
Friesan Fire |
Rachel Alexandra |
Dunkirk |
West Side Bernie |
Papa Clem |
| Papa Clem |
Chocolate Candy |
Dunkirk |
Chocolate Candy |
Friesan Fire |
Papa Clem |
General Quarters |
| Chocolate Candy |
Desert Party |
Papa Clem |
Friesan Fire |
General Quarters |
Win Willy |
Regal Ransom |
| Advice |
Papa Clem |
General Quarters |
Papa Clem |
Musket Man |
Musket Man |
Desert Party |
| Desert Party |
Musket Man |
Square Eddie |
Musket Man |
Papa Clem |
General Quarters |
Win Willy |
| Mr. Hot Stuff |
Hold Me Back |
Chocolate Candy |
Dunkirk |
Desert Party |
Chocolate Candy |
Musket Man |
| Randy Moss |
Bill Nack |
Valerie Grash |
Gary West |
Michael Nikolic |
Dana Byerly |
Jeremy Plonk |
| ESPN |
ESPN |
Foolish Pleasure |
FW Star-Telegram |
Gathering the Wind |
Green But Game |
Horseplayer Pro, ESPN |
| I Want Revenge |
Dunkirk |
Friesan Fire |
I Want Revenge |
Friesan Fire |
Friesan Fire |
Pioneerof the Nile |
| Dunkirk |
I Want Revenge |
I Want Revenge |
Dunkirk |
Pioneerof the Nile |
I Want Revenge |
Dunkirk |
| Friesan Fire |
Desert Party |
Regal Ransom |
Friesan Fire |
I Want Revenge |
Desert Party |
I Want Revenge |
| Desert Party |
Friesan Fire |
Musket Man |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Chocolate Candy |
Regal Ransom |
Mr. Hot Stuff |
| Pioneerof the Nile |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Papa Clem |
Desert Party |
Papa Clem |
Dunkirk |
Desert Party |
| Papa Clem |
Chocolate Candy |
Dunkirk |
Chocolate Candy |
Square Eddie |
Papa Clem |
Chocolate Candy |
| Musket Man |
Hold Me Back |
Mr. Hot Stuff |
Musket Man |
Musket Man |
Chocolate Candy |
Hold Me Back |
| Chocolate Candy |
General Quarters |
Chocolate Candy |
Papa Clem |
Desert Party |
Musket Man |
Friesan Fire |
| General Quarters |
Musket Man |
General Quarters |
Regal Ransom |
Dunkirk |
General Quarters |
Regal Ransom |
| Regal Ransom |
Papa Clem |
Summer Bird |
West Side Bernie |
Regal Ransom |
Square Eddie |
Win Willy |
| Bill Christine |
John Pricci |
Vic Zast |
Jon White |
Richard Eng |
Alan Mann |
Alicia Wincze |
| Horserace Insider |
Horserace Insider |
Horserace Insider |
HRTV, Santa Anita TV |
Las Vegas R-J |
Left at the Gate |
Lexington H-L |
| I Want Revenge |
Dunkirk |
Dunkirk |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Friesan Fire |
Dunkirk |
Friesan Fire |
| Pioneerof the Nile |
I Want Revenge |
Pioneerof the Nile |
I Want Revenge |
Pioneerof the Nile |
I Want Revenge |
Pioneerof the Nile |
| Desert Party |
Pioneerof the Nile |
I Want Revenge |
Friesan Fire |
I Want Revenge |
Papa Clem |
I Want Revenge |
| Dunkirk |
Friesan Fire |
Friesan Fire |
Papa Clem |
Dunkirk |
General Quarters |
Desert Party |
| Friesan Fire |
Chocolate Candy |
Regal Ransom |
Chocolate Candy |
Chocolate Candy |
Win Willy |
Chocolate Candy |
| Regal Ransom |
Desert Party |
Desert Party |
Musket Man |
Hold Me Back |
Chocolate Candy |
Dunkirk |
| Chocolate Candy |
Musket Man |
Chocolate Candy |
Desert Party |
General Quarters |
Musket Man |
Papa Clem |
| Papa Clem |
Papa Clem |
Hold Me Back |
General Quarters |
Win Willy |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Musket Man |
| Musket Man |
Regal Ransom |
Papa Clem |
Dunkirk |
Desert Party |
Friesan Fire |
Regal Ransom |
| General Quarters |
General Quarters |
Square Eddie |
Mr. Hot Stuff |
West Side Bernie |
Square Eddie |
General Quarters |
| Art Wilson |
Joe Drape |
Andy Serling |
Jessica Chapel |
Brendan O’Meara |
Jeff Scott |
Lisa Grimm |
| Los Angeles Newspapers |
New York Times |
NYRA |
Railbird |
The Saratogian |
The Saratogian |
SuperfectaBlog |
| I Want Revenge |
Friesan Fire |
Dunkirk |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Friesan Fire |
I Want Revenge |
I Want Revenge |
| Pioneerof the Nile |
Win Willy |
Desert Party |
Desert Party |
I Want Revenge |
Friesan Fire |
Friesan Fire |
| Friesan Fire |
Papa Clem |
I Want Revenge |
Regal Ransom |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Chocolate Candy |
| Chocolate Candy |
Musket Man |
West Side Bernie |
I Want Revenge |
Dunkirk |
Desert Party |
Papa Clem |
| Papa Clem |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Friesan Fire |
Friesan Fire |
Desert Party |
General Quarters |
General Quarters |
| Dunkirk |
Dunkirk |
Musket Man |
Papa Clem |
Regal Ransom |
Papa Clem |
Pioneerof the Nile |
| Square Eddie |
General Quarters |
General Quarters |
Dunkirk |
Papa Clem |
Mr. Hot Stuff |
Regal Ransom |
| Musket Man |
Desert Party |
Papa Clem |
Musket Man |
Chocolate Candy |
Chocolate Candy |
Musket Man |
| Hold Me Back |
I Want Revenge |
Regal Ransom |
General Quarters |
Musket Man |
Hold Me Back |
Hold Me Back |
| General Quarters |
Square Eddie |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Chocolate Candy |
General Quarters |
Regal Ransom |
Dunkirk |
| Patrick Patten |
Peter Denk |
Nick Kling |
Simon Bray |
Todd Schrupp |
| Tbred Bloggers Alliance |
Thoroughbred Times |
The Troy Record |
TVG |
TVG |
| Friesan Fire |
I Want Revenge |
Dunkirk |
I Want Revenge |
Desert Party |
| Pioneerof the Nile |
Friesan Fire |
I Want Revenge |
Pioneerof the Nile |
I Want Revenge |
| I Want Revenge |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Friesan Fire |
Friesan Fire |
General Quarters |
| General Quarters |
Dunkirk |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Chocolate Candy |
Regal Ransom |
| Square Eddie |
Hold Me Back |
Desert Party |
Papa Clem |
Dunkirk |
| West Side Bernie |
Desert Party |
Regal Ransom |
Desert Party |
Friesan Fire |
| Chocolate Candy |
Chocolate Candy |
Papa Clem |
Hold Me Back |
Musket Man |
| Musket Man |
Papa Clem |
Chocolate Candy |
Dunkirk |
Hold Me Back |
| Dunkirk |
Musket Man |
Musket Man |
Musket Man |
Pioneerof the Nile |
| Papa Clem |
General Quarters |
Win Willy |
General Quarters |
Advice |
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Tuesday, April 7th, 2009
It was a weekend of much consequence for the ever-shaping Derby Trail. In the Santa Anita Derby, Pioneerof the Nile strengthened his credentials as a top pick with an impressive win while Chocolate Candy shot up four places on the Paulick Derby Index by AmWest Entertainment on the back of a strong second place finish. In Illinois, Musket Man finally made a case strong enough for our voters, cracking our list for the first time at number nine. And I Want Revenge showed his prowess with a highly unusual and seemingly impossible ride in the Wood Memorial. Despite severely stumbling out of the gate, he stuck with the race and battled from last to first.
The weekend also had its fair share of disappointments with poor performances by hopefuls Imperial Council and Mr. Hot Stuff. However, most disturbing was the sudden scratch of The Pamplemousse, rendering this previous favorite completely off the Derby Trail. Quality Road also had a run in this weekend when a quarter crack was discovered in his right hind hoof. Since the news broke after many of our balloters had submitted their selections, look to see how far Quality Road drops in next week’s poll.
Next weekend, the Arkansas Derby and Blue Grass Stakes will help to round out the Derby picture for many of the horses on our list including Old Fashioned, Papa Clem, Win Willy, Patena and Mafaaz.
Ray Paulick’s Analysis
1-Pioneerof the Nile. With the scratch of The Pamplemousse, the Santa Anita Derby came up a completely different kind of race than trainer Bob Baffert was hoping to get for the Empire Maker colt. But despite the crawling pace, Pioneerof the Nile came through with perhaps his best performance yet. He’ll get a fast pace in the Kentucky Derby, giving him the opportunity to make the kind of late run that Baffert thinks will best suit him.
2-I Want Revenge. Spectacular performance in the Wood Memorial, showing the Stephen Got Even colt’s versatility. He showed speed in the Gotham and blew away the field at the top of the stretch, and had to utilize a completely different running style here. I’m not big into offering owners advice, but if I were David Lanzman and Mike Iavarone, I’d get some duct tape and put it on trainer Jeff Mullins’ mouth when the media shows up Derby week. Nothing he says is going to help him in the mess he created at the Aqueduct detention barn last Saturday prior to the Bay Shore Stakes.
3- Dunkirk. He moved up without racing this week, and the chances of getting into the starting field with his limited graded stakes earnings look better than ever. On the downside, if Dunkirk, with his expensive yearling price tag and fancy pedigree, does win the Derby and other big races as a 3-year-old, what are the chances we’ll see him as a 4-year-old next year. But I digress. He is an exciting prospect who should improve, if serious physical ailments aren’t the reason for his light record.
4-Quality Road. I had to chuckle when I saw the headline “Quality Road Quarter Crack Not Serious” on one web site. It’s right there with “mild” heart attack. That’s the same kind of spin Team IEAH was trying to put out last year when Big Brown’s quarter crack re-emerged just before the Belmont, forcing Rick Dutrow to alter training. Missing any training in the final weeks before the Kentucky Derby is a serious setback, so we need to watch this one closely.
5-Friesan Fire. He’s got some history to beat with his long layoff and Louisiana wintertime route to Churchill Downs, but this is a good horse, and the Vinery Stable (co-owners with Rick Porter’s Fox Hill Farm) is one of the hottest things going in racing right now, from limited numbers.
6-Old Fashioned. Arkansas Derby is the big test. Is he just a miler? I like the rider switch and think the Unbridled’s Song colt will avenge his only career loss, suffered when when he was a bit too close to a hot pace on a tiring Oaklawn track in the Rebel.
7-Musket Man. The under the radar horse can’t stay hidden any longer after winning Saturday’s Illinois Derby impressively. Son of Yonaguska is one of those horses that looks better on paper the longer you look at him, though it’s a pedigree that comes up light on stamina.
8-Desert Party. Not much new to report on UAE Derby runner-up. I’m sure it was a quiet week for him.
9-Chocolate Candy. Ran a really solid race against Pioneereof the Nile in the Santa Anita Derby, closing ground late on super slow fractions. I know it’s horse racing (not owner racing), but would love to see Jenny Craig in the winner’s circle at Churchill Downs on Derby Day with a son of Candy Ride that she bred with her late husband. After a week of dealing with the likes of Ernie Paragallo, I’d like to see good people rewarded, and she certainly qualifies.
10-Papa Clem. Let’s hope the Arkansas Derby comes up with a fast track. If it does, I wouldn’t be surprised to see son of Smart Strike be the one to upset Old Fashioned. The win would further validate the strength of the West Coast’s 3-year-olds, a point that’s already been made by I Want Revenge’s New York performances.
Ray Paulick
|
Fan Vote |
Alex Brown |
Paul Moran |
Billy Reed |
John Conte |
Bill Finley |
| Paulick Report |
Paulick Report |
Alex Brown Racing |
At The Races |
Billy Reed Says |
Conte’s Picks
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ESPN, NYT |
| Pioneerof the Nile |
I Want Revenge |
Quality Road |
Quality Road |
Pioneerof the Nile |
I Want Revenge |
I Want Revenge |
| I Want Revenge |
Quality Road |
Rachel Alexandra |
I Want Revenge |
Quality Road |
Quality Road |
Friesan Fire |
| Dunkirk |
Friesan Fire |
I Want Revenge |
Pioneerof the Nile |
I Want Revenge |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Quality Road |
| Quality Road |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Desert Party |
Rachel Alexandra |
Old Fashioned |
Chocolate Candy |
Pioneerof the Nile |
| Friesan Fire |
Old Fashioned |
Friesan Fire |
Old Fashioned |
Friesan Fire |
West Side Bernie |
Old Fashioned |
| Old Fashioned |
Dunkirk |
Dunkirk |
Regal Ransom |
Dunkirk |
Friesan Fire |
Regal Ransom |
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Musket Man
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Chocolate Candy |
Mafaaz |
Desert Party |
Chocolate Candy |
Musket Man |
Dunkirk |
| Desert Party |
Musket Man |
Regal Ransom |
Chocolate Candy |
Terrain |
Old Fashioned |
Desert Party |
| Chocolate Candy |
Win Willy |
Musket Man |
Friesan Fire |
Musket Man |
Terrain |
Win Willy |
| Papa Clem |
Desert Party |
Win Willy |
Musket Man |
Desert Party |
Giant Oak |
Chocolate Candy |
| Randy Moss |
Bill Nack |
Valerie Grash |
Gary West |
Michael Nikolic |
Dana Byerly |
Jeremy Plonk |
| ESPN |
ESPN |
Foolish Pleasure |
FW Star-Telegram |
Gathering the Wind |
Green But Game |
Horseplayer Pro, ESPN |
| I Want Revenge |
Quality Road |
Friesan Fire |
Quality Road |
Friesan Fire |
Friesan Fire |
Pioneerof the Nile |
| Dunkirk |
I Want Revenge |
Rachel Alexandra |
I Want Revenge |
Quality Road |
Quality Road |
Quality Road |
| Friesan Fire |
Dunkirk |
I Want Revenge |
Old Fashioned |
Pioneerof the Nile |
I Want Revenge |
Dunkirk |
| Desert Party |
Friesan Fire |
Quality Road |
Pioneerof the Nile |
I Want Revenge |
Old Fashioned |
I Want Revenge |
| Quality Road |
Chocolate Candy |
Old Fashioned |
Dunkirk |
Chocolate Candy |
Regal Ransom |
Friesan Fire |
| Pioneerof the Nile |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Papa Clem |
Friesan Fire |
Papa Clem |
Desert Party |
Old Fashioned |
| Old Fashioned |
Musket Man |
Dunkirk |
Desert Party |
Old Fashioned |
Dunkirk |
Terrain |
| Win Willy |
Stardom Bound |
Chocolate Candy |
Win Willy |
Musket Man |
Musket Man |
Desert Party |
| Musket Man |
Win Willy |
Musket Man |
Musket Man |
Desert Party |
Chocolate Candy |
Chocolate Candy |
| Chocolate Candy |
Old Fashioned |
Mr. Hot Stuff |
Regal Ransom |
Dunkirk |
Papa Clem |
Hold Me Back |
| Bill Christine |
John Pricci |
Vic Zast |
Jon White |
Richard Eng |
Alan Mann |
Alicia Wincze |
| Horserace Insider |
Horserace Insider |
Horserace Insider |
HRTV, Santa Anita TV |
Las Vegas R-J |
Left at the Gate |
Lexington H-L |
| I Want Revenge |
Quality Road |
Friesan Fire |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Friesan Fire |
Dunkirk |
Friesan Fire |
| Quality Road |
I Want Revenge |
Quality Road |
I Want Revenge |
Pioneerof the Nile |
I Want Revenge |
Pioneerof the Nile |
| Pioneerof the Nile |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Quality Road |
I Want Revenge |
Pioneerof the Nile |
I Want Revenge |
| Friesan Fire |
Friesan Fire |
I Want Revenge |
Chocolate Candy |
Quality Road |
Papa Clem |
Quality Road |
| Desert Party |
Old Fashioned |
Dunkirk |
Friesan Fire |
Dunkirk |
Chocolate Candy |
Old Fashioned |
| Old Fashioned |
Chocolate Candy |
Old Fashioned |
Dunkirk |
Old Fashioned |
Win Willy |
Chocolate Candy |
| Dunkirk |
Dunkirk |
Regal Ransom |
Old Fashioned |
Patena |
Friesan Fire |
Dunkirk |
| Chocolate Candy |
Win Willy |
Chocolate Candy |
Papa Clem |
Win Willy |
Old Fashioned |
Desert Party |
| Regal Ransom |
Desert Party |
Musket Man |
Musket Man |
Chocolate Candy |
Quality Road |
Regal Ransom |
| Theregoesjojo |
Musket Man |
Desert Party |
Theregoesjojo |
Musket Man |
Musket Man |
Musket Man |
| Art Wilson |
Joe Drape |
Andy Serling |
Jessica Chapel |
Brendan O’Meara |
Jeff Scott |
Lisa Grimm |
| Los Angeles Newspapers |
New York Times |
NYRA |
Railbird |
The Saratogian |
The Saratogian |
SuperfectaBlog |
| I Want Revenge |
Mafaaz |
Dunkirk |
I Want Revenge |
Friesan Fire |
I Want Revenge |
I Want Revenge |
| Pioneerof the Nile |
Quality Road |
Quality Road |
Quality Road |
I Want Revenge |
Friesan Fire |
Quality Road |
| Friesan Fire |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Desert Party |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Pioneerof the Nile |
| Quality Road |
Friesan Fire |
I Want Revenge |
Desert Party |
Quality Road |
Desert Party |
Friesan Fire |
| Old Fashioned |
Old Fashioned |
Rachel Alexandra |
Old Fashioned |
Dunkirk |
Quality Road |
Chocolate Candy |
| Chocolate Candy |
I Want Revenge |
Friesan Fire |
Friesan Fire |
Old Fashioned |
Flat Out |
Old Fashioned |
| Dunkirk |
Dunkirk |
Win Willy |
Dunkirk |
Desert Party |
Terrain |
Regal Ransom |
| Musket Man |
Terrain |
West Side Bernie |
Regal Ransom |
Chocolate Candy |
Dunkirk |
Papa Clem |
| Papa Clem |
Win Willy |
Musket Man |
Papa Clem |
Musket Man |
Musket Man |
Mafaaz |
| Giant Oak |
Musket Man |
N/A |
Terrain |
Rachel Alexandra |
Chocolate Candy |
Dunkirk |
| Patrick Patten |
Peter Denk |
Nick Kling |
Simon Bray |
Todd Schrupp |
| Tbred Bloggers Alliance |
Thoroughbred Times |
The Troy Record |
TVG |
TVG |
| Friesan Fire |
I Want Revenge |
I Want Revenge |
I Want Revenge |
Old Fashioned |
| Pioneerof the Nile |
Quality Road |
Quality Road |
Quality Road |
Quality Road |
| Quality Road |
Dunkirk |
Dunkirk |
Pioneerof the Nile |
I Want Revenge |
| I Want Revenge |
Friesan Fire |
Friesan Fire |
Friesan Fire |
Dunkirk |
| Musket Man |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Old Fashioned |
Old Fashioned |
Friesan Fire |
| Chocolate Candy |
Old Fashioned |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Chocolate Candy |
Desert Party |
| Patena |
Win Wily |
Patena |
Desert Party |
Pioneerof the Nile |
| Papa Clem |
Desert Party |
Desert Party |
Dunkirk |
Big Drama |
| Terrain |
Chocolate Candy |
Regal Ransom |
Musket Man |
Musket Man |
| West Side Bernie |
Musket Man |
Mafaaz |
Win Willy |
Win Willy |
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Tuesday, March 31st, 2009
After a very strong Derby prep weekend, featuring races in Dubai and Florida, several winners emerged. Quality Road for the first time makes his ascension to the top of our Paulick Derby Index by AmWest Entertainment despite having fewer first-place votes than second-place finisher Friesan Fire. His impressive win in the Florida Derby proved only to cloud the upper echelon of 3-year-olds this year with five horses within striking distance at the top. Next weekend’s Wood Memorial (I Want Revenge) and Santa Anita Derby (Pioneerof the Nile, The Pamplemousse) should answer many questions…or further delay a consensus favorite.
The aforementioned Pioneerof the Nile wins the "What have you done for me lately" award, dropping from 2nd to 4th and losing six first-place votes despite having done nothing to hurt his case. On the flip side, despite losing in the Florida Derby, Dunkirk actually moved up a place this week. Theregoesjojo went bye bye, dropping off our list from 13th place. And Beethoven rolled over once more as he continued his hot/cold relationship with our voters after skipping the Florida Derby due to an injury.
Ray Paulick’s top 10 and analysis:
1-Quality Road. It wasn’t the strongest Florida Derby field ever assembled (that’s an understatement), but Quality Road progressed from a one-turn miler to a two-turn horse very impressively. The final time was meaningless (because of how the track was playing), though I like the way he lengthened his stride and turned back a talented Dunkirk down the stretch. The Jerkens family has never been big on traveling road shows, so it will be interesting to see where and how trainer Jimmy Jerkens prepares the son of Elusive Quality for the Kentucky Derby.
2-Pioneerof the Nile. His big test comes Saturday in the Santa Anita Derby. Here is how clocker Bruno De Julio (www.racingwithbruno.com <http://www.racingwithbruno.com> ) described son of Empire Maker’s five-furlong workout over Santa Anita’s Pro-Ride synthetic surface last Wednesday: “Pioneerof The Nile, with Joe Steiner on board, worked a strong five furlongs in 59.1 and out in 111.2. Galloping out in 126 for seven furlongs. He extended strongly through the lane. Baffert definitely tightened the girth on ‘Nile and he responded with a good work. Nile is not the prettiest of movers on this track, and that drew some criticism from some onlookers. He has never really been a horse that has handled the pro-ride ‘pretty’.” Do I think Baffert will have tightened the screws completely for the Santa Anita Derby? Of course not, so I won’t be that surprised to see Pioneerof the Nile come up short in his final Kentucky Derby prep.
3-The Pamplemousse. With Julio Canani in Dubai, front-running son of Kafwain worked rather unimpressively, six furlongs in 1:13 flat, according to Bruno De Julio, in his final Santa Anita Derby tune-up. Here are Bruno’s comments: “He started quickly early as he broke from the pole pulling Alex Solis from the saddle. He went the first half mile in 47 flat while being kept wide off the fence and finished in a lackluster 26 flat on our watch. Railroad, the old claimer, ran up inside of him in the lane, but that didn’t get ‘Mousse’s dandruff up at all. In fact, he was shut down late. Alex Solis seemed to be moving his hands just slightly, as he did last week. The colt galloped out rather slowly in 127 and change.” Despite the less-than-rave reviews, I think The Pamplemousse will be tough to catch in the Santa Anita Derby.
4-Dunkirk. Showed he’s a very good horse when closing against a Gulfstream Park dirt track with a speed bias in the Florida Derby. Trainer Todd Pletcher has been playing some serious catch-up with the Unbridled’s Song colt, as this was just his third start of the year after going unraced as a 2-year-old. If he gets into the Derby field, he will be highly regarded, but the lack of experience unquestionably plays against him. Nevertheless, I thought his Florida Derby performance was a huge step forward and puts him into the ranks of leading contenders.
5-Friesan Fire. The more I review the decision to prep the son of A.P. Indy at the Fair Grounds in New Orleans, the more skeptical I am that he’s in quite the same league as the Florida and California-based 3-year-olds. Louisiana has seldom been a successful route to the Kentucky Derby, and I really haven’t seen that much in terms of depth of competition that makes me change my mind. Besides, the daylight victory in the slop in the Louisiana Derby may be less meaningful than the margin indicates simply because of the track condition.
6-I Want Revenge. No reason he can’t repeat his Gotham performance this Saturday in the Wood Memorial at Aqueduct, unless the back-and-forth travel from California to New York gets to him. Have to admit I overlooked this son of Stephen Got Even until the Gotham, probably in part because of the big-race inexperience of trainer Jeff Mullins. Here are clocker Bruno De Julio’s comments on his final work last Sunday at Hollywood Park: “He worked solo and relaxed nicely to the pole in 12.3, 24.2, and 36 flat to the 1/4 pole. You can see him winding up and (Joe) Talamo barely shook the reins. The colt pricked his left ear inside the furlong pole waiting forTalamo to ask him. Talamo never did and the colt shut himself off and finished in 59.4 on our watch. Final 1/4 in 23.4 and out in 112.4 for six furlongs, 127.1 for seven furlongs and out a mile in 143 flat. He actually went out a mile and three quarters before pulling up.” Bruno seems to be saying the colt can run all day.
7-Old Fashioned. One-time leader of the division slips a few more spots as other contenders step up. Son of Unbridled’s Song will need to turn in impressive performance in the Arkansas Derby to regain any support, and even then the competition won’t be that deep, so it would be a somewhat hollow victory.
8-Desert Party. Lost the UAE Derby to stablemate Regal Ransom on a track that really played to speed. It’s so difficult to know how much a transoceanic trip is going to take out of the Dubai-based horses, but I wouldn’t throw son of Street Cry out completely just because of the UAE loss.
9-Imperial Council. Son of Empire Maker remains the sleeper in my top 10. A big effort in the Wood against I Want Revenge moves him up considerably, but a flat performance may take him out of the Derby altogether.
10-Regal Ransom. Fought off Desert Party while winning the UAE Derby in solid performance. Historically, the race hasn’t meant much vis a vis the Kentucky Derby, but I have to think that’s going to change one of these years.
Ray Paulick
|
Fan Vote |
Alex Brown |
Paul Moran |
Billy Reed |
John Conte |
Bill Finley |
| Paulick Report |
Paulick Report |
Alex Brown Racing |
At The Races |
Billy Reed Says |
Conte’s Picks
|
ESPN, NYT |
| Quality Road |
Quality Road |
Quality Road |
Quality Road |
Pioneerof the Nile |
N/A |
Friesan Fire |
| Pioneerof the Nile |
Friesan Fire |
Friesan Fire |
I Want Revenge |
Quality Road |
N/A |
Quality Road |
| The Pamplemousse |
I Want Revenge |
The Pamplemousse |
Friesan Fire |
Old Fashioned |
N/A |
Pioneerof the Nile |
| Dunkirk |
The Pamplemousse |
I Want Revenge |
Old Fashioned |
Friesan Fire |
N/A |
Old Fashioned |
| Friesan Fire |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Rachel Alexandra |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Dunkirk |
N/A |
The Pamplemousse |
| I Want Revenge |
Dunkirk |
Desert Party |
The Pamplemousse |
Imperial Council |
N/A |
I Want Revenge |
| Old Fashioned |
Old Fashioned |
Dunkirk |
Regal Ransom |
Desert Party |
N/A |
Regal Ransom |
| Desert Party |
Rachel Alexandra |
Affirmatif |
Desert Party |
I Want Revenge |
N/A |
Dunkirk |
| Imperial Council |
Desert Party |
Stardom Bound |
Stardom Bound |
The Pamplemousse |
N/A |
Desert Party |
| Regal Ransom |
Imperial Council |
Mafaaz |
Rachel Alexandra |
Terrain |
N/A |
Win Willy |
| Randy Moss |
Bill Nack |
Valerie Grash |
Gary West |
Michael Nikolic |
Dana Byerly |
Jeremy Plonk |
| ESPN |
ESPN |
Foolish Pleasure |
FW Star-Telegram |
Gathering the Wind |
Green But Game |
Horseplayer Pro, ESPN |
| Quality Road |
Quality Road |
Friesan Fire |
Quality Road |
Friesan Fire |
Friesan Fire |
Pioneerof the Nile |
| I Want Revenge |
Dunkirk |
Rachel Alexandra |
I Want Revenge |
Quality Road |
Quality Road |
Quality Road |
| Dunkirk |
The Pamplemousse |
Quality Road |
Old Fashioned |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Stardom Bound |
Dunkirk |
| Friesan Fire |
I Want Revenge |
Old Fashioned |
Dunkirk |
I Want Revenge |
Old Fashioned |
Friesan Fire |
| The Pamplemousse |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Stardom Bound |
Friesan Fire |
Chocolate Candy |
I Want Revenge |
Imperial Council |
| Desert Party |
Friesan Fire |
Papa Clem |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Old Fashioned |
Regal Ransom |
Mr. Hot Stuff |
| Pioneerof the Nile |
Imperial Council |
I Want Revenge |
Imperial Council |
Papa Clem |
Desert Party |
I Want Revenge |
| Old Fashioned |
Stardom Bound |
Imperial Council |
Big Drama |
The Pamplemousse |
Dunkirk |
Old Fashioned |
| Win Willy |
Win Willy |
Mr. Hot Stuff |
Theregoesjojo |
Desert Party |
Imperial Council |
Terrain |
| Regal Ransom |
Old Fashioned |
Dunkirk |
The Pamplemousse |
Dunkirk |
Papa Clem |
Desert Party |
| Bill Christine |
John Pricci |
Vic Zast |
Jon White |
Richard Eng |
Alan Mann |
Alicia Wincze |
| Horserace Insider |
Horserace Insider |
Horserace Insider |
HRTV, Santa Anita TV |
Las Vegas R-J |
Left at the Gate |
Lexington H-L |
| I Want Revenge |
Quality Road |
Friesan Fire |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Friesan Fire |
Dunkirk |
Friesan Fire |
| Quality Road |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Quality Road |
Quality Road |
The Pamplemousse |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Pioneerof the Nile |
| Pioneerof the Nile |
Friesan Fire |
Pioneerof the Nile |
I Want Revenge |
Quality Road |
Stardom Bound |
Quality Road |
| Friesan Fire |
The Pamplemousse |
I Want Revenge |
Friesan Fire |
Dunkirk |
The Pamplemousse |
The Pamplemousse |
| Desert Party |
I Want Revenge |
The Pamplemousse |
The Pamplemousse |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Quality Road |
Old Fashioned |
| Old Fashioned |
Old Fashioned |
Dunkirk |
Dunkirk |
Old Fashioned |
I Want Revenge |
I Want Revenge |
| The Pamplemousse |
Dunkirk |
Old Fashioned |
Old Fashioned |
I Want Revenge |
Papa Clem |
Chocolate Candy |
| Dunkirk |
Papa Clem |
Imperial Council |
Papa Clem |
Patena |
Win Willy |
Dunkirk |
| Regal Ransom |
Desert Party |
Chocolate Candy |
Chocolate Candy |
Win Willy |
Friesan Fire |
Desert Party |
| Theregoesjojo |
Win Willy |
Regal Ransom |
Theregoesjojo |
Imperial Council |
Imperial Council |
Regal Ransom |
| Art Wilson |
Joe Drape |
Andy Serling |
Jessica Chapel |
Brendan O’Meara |
Jeff Scott |
Lisa Grimm |
| Los Angeles Newspapers |
New York Times |
NYRA |
Railbird |
The Saratogian |
The Saratogian |
SuperfectaBlog |
| The Pamplemousse |
Mafaaz |
Imperial Council |
Quality Road |
Friesan Fire |
I Want Revenge |
The Pamplemousse |
| Friesan Fire |
Quality Road |
Dunkirk |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Quality Road |
Friesan Fire |
Quality Road |
| Pioneerof the Nile |
Friesan Fire |
Desert Party |
I Want Revenge |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Friesan Fire |
| Old Fashioned |
Pioneerof the Nile |
I Want Revenge |
Desert Party |
I Want Revenge |
Desert Party |
I Want Revenge |
| I Want Revenge |
Old Fashioned |
Quality Road |
Old Fashioned |
Dunkirk |
Quality Road |
Pioneerof the Nile |
| Quality Road |
The Pamplemousse |
Rachel Alexandra |
Friesan Fire |
The Pamplemousse |
Flat Out |
Regal Ransom |
| Chocolate Candy |
I Want Revenge |
The Pamplemousse |
Dunkirk |
Desert Party |
Terrain |
Old Fashioned |
| Dunkirk |
Dunkirk |
Friesan Fire |
Regal Ransom |
Old Fashioned |
Dunkirk |
Dunkirk |
| Imperial Council |
Terrain |
Just a Coincidence |
Imperial Council |
Win Willy |
The Pamplemousse |
Chocolate Candy |
| Papa Clem |
Win Willy |
Win Willy |
Papa Clem |
Imperial Council |
Mr. Hot Stuff |
Imperial Council |
| Patrick Patten |
Peter Denk |
Nick Kling |
Simon Bray |
Todd Schrupp |
| Tbred Bloggers Alliance |
Thoroughbred Times |
The Troy Record |
TVG |
TVG |
| Friesan Fire |
I Want Revenge |
Friesan Fire |
I Want Revenge |
Old Fashioned |
| Pioneerof the Nile |
Quality Road |
Quality Road |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Quality Road |
| The Pamplemousse |
Dunkirk |
Dunkirk |
Quality Road |
Dunkirk |
| Quality Road |
Friesan Fire |
I Want Revenge |
Friesan Fire |
The Pamplemousse |
| I Want Revenge |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Imperial Council |
Old Fashioned |
Friesan Fire |
| Chocolate Candy |
Old Fashioned |
Old Fashioned |
The Pamplemousse |
I Want Revenge |
| Patena |
Win Wily |
The Pamplemousse |
Dunkirk |
Desert Party |
| Papa Clem |
Desert Party |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Chocolate Candy |
Big Drama |
| Terrain |
The Pamplemousse |
Patena |
Desert Party |
Pioneerof the Niile |
| General Quarters |
Imperial Council |
Desert Party |
Imperial Council |
Affirmatif |
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Tuesday, March 24th, 2009
The last slow weekend before Derby was reflected by a basic stagnation of the Paulick Derby Index by AmWest Entertainment. The only race of note this weekend, the Lane’s End Stakes, did not really produce any headlines.The winner Hold Me Back did not crack even one of our Top Ten lists this week and none of the other horses in that field are anywhere to be found in this week’s PDI. Perhaps most notable was that the only Derby winner to come out of the Lane’s End (Jim Beam Stakes at that time) passed away yesterday. Lil E. Tee left a legacy that does not look to be repeated any time soon, at least not this year. Of course, Hard Spun was the closest since as runner up in the Derby in 2007.
The only major addition to the field was the Kempton winner Mafaaz who despite only being voted on by three of our voters, actually picked up a first place vote. It should be interesting to see how this international experiment will affect this year’s race.
Next week and beyond, we look forward to the top prep races including the Santa Anita Derby, Florida Derby and Wood Memorial. Look for a much more significant shakeup in the weeks to come.
Ray Paulick’s Analysis
1-Pioneerof the Nile. So his Beyer figure wasn’t very good in winning the San Felipe. I have a great deal of respect for Andy Beyer and his figures, but I’m not sure they have got synthetic surface performances figured out as well as races on dirt. It’s becoming increasingly popular to knock synthetic track winners, but this son of Empire Maker keeps on winning, and that’s still the name of the game.
2- The Pamplemousse. I can see this horse beating Pioneerof the Nile in the Santa Anita Derby if there’s not much pace to go with him. Kentucky will be a different story with lots of speed, and I’m not sure a son of Kafwain really wants a mile and a quarter.
3- Friesan Fire. Impressive Louisiana Derby winner will have a long rest between starts if Larry Jones trains him up to the Kentucky Derby as he’s recently indicated. The successful road to the roses hasn’t traveled through New Orleans that often, however.
4-I Want Revenge. How much is a half interest in the Stephen Got Even colt worth to IEAH stables, which has been attempting to buy him in hopes of catching lightning in a bottle two years in a row following Big Brown’s success in 2008. Sources say the price is about $5 million.
5-Quality Road. Here comes the test for the son of Elusive Quality in this weekend’s Florida Derby. First time around two turns will tell us a lot about whether or not he is truly Derby material.
6-Old Fashioned. With an additional week’s time to reflect, I’m beginning to wonder if maybe Old Fashioned was just a very precocious 2-year-old whose classmates are now catching up to him. He’ll need to rebound big time in the Arkansas Derby.
7-Desert Party. Son of Street Cry needs to do win big in this weekend’s UAE Derby in Dubai. Anything short of that means Sheikh Mohammed’s quest for the Kentucky Derby will have to wait another year.
8-Imperial Council. Might not win the Kentucky Derby, but something tells me the Empire Maker colt will be an important horse before the year is over.
9-Theregoesjojo. He’s my upset special in the Florida Derby, and son of Brahms will be a price to boot.
10-Mafaaz. Sorry, Dunkirk, but the John Gosden-trained winner of the Kentucky Derby Challenge Stakes in England just bounced you off my top 10. Sure, the son of the Machiavellian stallion Medicean is bred for turf and he’s lightly raced. But I give a great deal of respect to Gosden, who is no stranger to racing on dirt in the U.S., having stabled in California for a number of years. Besides, Dunkirk has plenty of opportunity this coming weekend to make a name for himself outside of the maiden and allowance ranks when he goes to post in the Florida Derby.
Ray Paulick
|
Fan Vote |
Alex Brown |
Paul Moran |
Billy Reed |
John Conte |
Bill Finley |
| Paulick Report |
Paulick Report |
Alex Brown Racing |
At The Races |
Billy Reed Says |
Conte’s Picks
|
ESPN, NYT |
| Pioneerof the Nile |
Friesan Fire |
Quality Road |
Friesan Fire |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Pioneerof the Nile |
| The Pamplemousse |
I Want Revenge |
Dunkirk |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Old Fashioned |
Friesan Fire |
Friesan Fire |
| Friesan Fire |
The Pamplemousse |
Friesan Fire |
Quality Road |
Friesan Fire |
I Want Revenge |
Old Fashioned |
| I Want Revenge |
Quality Road |
The Pamplemousse |
I Want Revenge |
Dunkirk |
The Pamplemousse |
The Pamplemousse |
| Quality Road |
Dunkirk |
I Want Revenge |
Desert Party |
Quality Road |
Old Fashioned |
Quality Road |
| Old Fashioned |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Rachel Alexandra |
Old Fashioned |
Imperial Council |
Dunkirk |
I Want Revenge |
| Desert Party |
Old Fashioned |
Desert Party |
The Pamplemousse |
Win Willy |
Chocolate Candy |
Desert Party |
| Imperial Council |
Imperial Council |
Affirmatif |
Imperial Council |
I Want Revenge |
Win Willy |
Dunkirk |
| Theregoesjojo |
Desert Party |
Stardom Bound |
Dunkirk |
The Pamplemousse |
Hello Broadway |
Papa Clem |
| Mafaaz |
Theregoesjojo |
Mafaaz |
Rachel Alexandra |
Desert Party |
Beethoven |
Theregoesjojo |
| Randy Moss |
Bill Nack |
Valerie Grash |
Gary West |
Michael Nikolic |
Dana Byerly |
Jeremy Plonk |
| ESPN |
ESPN |
Foolish Pleasure |
FW Star-Telegram |
Gathering the Wind |
Green But Game |
Horseplayer Pro, ESPN |
| Quality Road |
Dunkirk |
Friesan Fire |
Quality Road |
Friesan Fire |
Friesan Fire |
Pioneerof the Nile |
| I Want Revenge |
Quality Road |
Rachel Alexandra |
I Want Revenge |
Desert Party |
Stardom Bound |
Friesan Fire |
| Dunkirk |
Friesan Fire |
Old Fashioned |
Old Fashioned |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Old Fashioned |
Dunkirk |
| Friesan Fire |
The Pamplemousse |
Stardom Bound |
Dunkirk |
I Want Revenge |
Desert Party |
Imperial Council |
| The Pamplemousse |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Papa Clem |
Friesan Fire |
Chocolate Candy |
I Want Revenge |
Quality Road |
| Old Fashioned |
I Want Revenge |
I Want Revenge |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Old Fashioned |
Quality Road |
Mr. Hot Stuff |
| Pioneerof the Nile |
Stardom Bound |
Imperial Council |
Imperial Council |
Papa Clem |
Theregoesjojo |
I Want Revenge |
| Theregoesjojo |
Win Willy |
Mr. Hot Stuff |
Theregoesjojo |
Imperial Council |
Imperial Council |
Old Fashioned |
| Desert Party |
Desert Party |
Dunkirk |
The Pamplemousse |
Theregoesjojo |
Flying Pegasus |
The Pamplemousse |
| Win Willy |
Old Fashioned |
Desert Party |
Beethoven |
Quality Road |
Beethoven |
Beethoven |
| Bill Christine |
John Pricci |
Vic Zast |
Jon White |
Richard Eng |
Alan Mann |
Alicia Wincze |
| Horserace Insider |
Horserace Insider |
Horserace Insider |
HRTV, Santa Anita TV |
Las Vegas R-J |
Left at the Gate |
Lexington H-L |
| I Want Revenge |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Friesan Fire |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Friesan Fire |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Friesan Fire |
| Desert Party |
Friesan Fire |
Pioneerof the Nile |
I Want Revenge |
The Pamplemousse |
Friesan Fire |
Pioneerof the Nile |
| Pioneerof the Nile |
The Pamplemousse |
I Want Revenge |
Friesan Fire |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Stardom Bound |
Desert Party |
| Friesan Fire |
I Want Revenge |
Quality Road |
Quality Road |
Quality Road |
Dunkirk |
The Pamplemousse |
| Old Fashioned |
Quality Road |
The Pamplemousse |
The Pamplemousse |
Dunkirk |
The Pamplemousse |
Old Fashioned |
| The Pamplemousse |
Old Fashioned |
Dunkirk |
Old Fashioned |
I Want Revenge |
I Want Revenge |
Quality Road |
| Theregoesjojo |
Dunkirk |
Old Fashioned |
Papa Clem |
Old Fashioned |
Papa Clem |
I Want Revenge |
| Quality Road |
Desert Party |
Desert Party |
Dunkirk |
Theregoesjojo |
Imperial Council |
Chocolate Candy |
| Win Willy |
Rachel Alexandra |
Imperial Council |
Chocolate Candy |
Beethoven |
Win Willy |
Papa Clem |
| Nowhere to Hide |
Papa Clem |
Chocolate Candy |
Theregoesjojo |
Patena |
Quality Road |
Beethoven |
| Art Wilson |
Joe Drape |
Andy Serling |
Jessica Chapel |
Brendan O’Meara |
Jeff Scott |
Lisa Grimm |
| Los Angeles Newspapers |
New York Times |
NYRA |
Railbird |
The Saratogian |
The Saratogian |
SuperfectaBlog |
| The Pamplemousse |
Mafaaz |
Imperial Council |
Rachel Alexandra |
Friesan Fire |
I Want Revenge |
Pioneerof the Nile |
| Friesan Fire |
Friesan Fire |
The Pamplemousse |
Friesan Fire |
Desert Party |
Friesan Fire |
The Pamplemousse |
| Pioneerof the Nile |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Desert Party |
Desert Party |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Friesan Fire |
| Old Fashioned |
Quality Road |
I Want Revenge |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Dunkirk |
Desert Party |
I Want Revenge |
| Dunkirk |
Old Fashioned |
Rachel Alexandra |
I Want Revenge |
Quality Road |
Flat Out |
Quality Road |
| I Want Revenge |
The Pamplemousse |
Quality Road |
Old Fashioned |
Old Fashioned |
Terrain |
Old Fashioned |
| Quality Road |
Theregoesjojo |
Friesan Fire |
Quality Road |
The Pamplemousse |
Quality Road |
Chocolate Candy |
| Imperial Council |
I Want Revenge |
Dunkirk |
Dunkirk |
I Want Revenge |
The Pamplemousse |
Stardom Bound |
| Chocolate Candy |
Dunkirk |
Just a Coincidence |
Imperial Council |
Win Willy |
Old Fashioned |
Desert Party |
| Desert Party |
Win Willy |
Win Willy |
Papa Clem |
Imperial Council |
Mr. Hot Stuff |
Papa Clem |
| Patrick Patten |
Peter Denk |
Nick Kling |
Simon Bray |
Todd Schrupp |
| Tbred Bloggers Alliance |
Thoroughbred Times |
The Troy Record |
TVG |
TVG |
| Friesan Fire |
I Want Revenge |
Friesan Fire |
I Want Revenge |
Desert Party |
| Chocolate Candy |
Friesan Fire |
Dunkirk |
Pioneerof the Nile |
The Pamplemousse |
| Pioneerof the Nile |
Pioneerof the Nile |
I Want Revenge |
Old Fashioned |
Odl Fashioned |
| The Pamplemousse |
Old Fashioned |
Imperial Council |
Friesan Fire |
Friesan Fire |
| I Want Revenge |
Dunkirk |
Old Fashioned |
The Pamplemousse |
Quality Road |
| Patena |
Quality Road |
Quality Road |
Dunkirk |
Dunkirk |
| Quality Road |
Desert Party |
The Pamplemousse |
Desert Party |
I Want Revenge |
| Papa Clem |
The Pamplemousse |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Quality Road |
Affirmatif |
| Terrain |
Win Willy |
Patena |
Chocolate Candy |
Pioneerof the Niile |
| General Quarters |
Theregoesjojo |
Beethoven |
Imperial Council |
Theregoesjojo |
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Tuesday, March 17th, 2009
We all knew a shakeup was about to occur. Rarely if ever, do the consensus horses at the top of the field continue to impress throughout the Derby prep season and this year has officially proven to be no different. Despite leaving the third-place finisher behind by eight lengths, it is hard to ignore the fact that Old Fashioned was beaten in the Rebel Stakes by 56-1 shot Win Willy, a $25,000 yearling purchase whose victory led his connections to turn down a $3-million offer in exchange for the promise of an exciting two months on the Triple Crown trail. This turn of events has dropped the previous consensus number one to sixth in our poll.
Perhaps the most interesting trend this week is a tightening in what seemed to be the de facto top 8 horses despite first place votes being distributed as low as 10th with Rachel Alexandra. The 74-point drop between Desert Party and Imperial Council might imply a tightening at the top and less confidence in the bottom 12 contenders.
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Paulick’s Derby Picks
1-Pioneerof the Nile. My initial reaction was to drop the Empire Maker colt from the top spot, because I didn’t like the way he won Saturday’s San Felipe. But after looking at the slow fractions, and the fact he moved sooner than normal, his win was really not as bad as it looked to me the first time around. Plus, it was a win, and trainer Bob Baffert hadn’t done that much with him in the way of training. His philosophy isn’t to win all the preps, it’s to have the horse on his game for the Kentucky Derby; or, as only Baffert can say, “We don’t wear our good shoes until Sunday.”
2- The Pamplemousse. He went back to work with a three-eighths of a mile breeze after his eye-popping victory in the Sham Stakes. California clocker Bruno De Julio (click here <http://www.racingwithbruno.com/> to visit his web site) said the Kafwain colt seems to be thriving and is holding his weight and coat color well. Looking forward to his showdown against Pioneerof the Nile in the Santa Anita Derby.
3- Friesan Fire. How many times have we seen horses draw off to huge winning margins on a sloppy racetrack like Friesan Fire did in Saturday’s Louisiana Derby? He’s obviously a mudlark, so that begs the questions: How much did the racing surface factor in to that huge margin of victory? I think it was a big contributing factor. Sloppy track winners are often overbet in their next starts, and I think this A.P. Indy colt was overbet down to 8-1 the next day in the second pool of the Derby Futures wager.
4-I Want Revenge. Stephen Got Even colt worked an easy half-mile at Hollywood Park Sunday, just over a week after his dominating victory at Aqueduct in the Gotham Stakes. Clocker De Julio said of the work: “visually it was perfect. The colt was well relaxed and has actually kept good weight on despite the race being only eight days ago. His coat is impeccable and he seems to be thriving physically.” Figures to be part of a sizable speed brigade in this year’s Derby field.
5-Quality Road. Will be staying in Florida for the Florida Derby rather than going to New York for the Wood Memorial, as trainer Jimmy Jerkens originally said he might do. Son of Elusive Quality still has a lot to prove, from the standpoint of getting the Derby distance.
6-Old Fashioned. I’ve been questioning the quality of the horses Old Fashioned has been beating, so it didn’t help his cause when a 56-1 longshot blew by him in the final sixteenth of a mile in Saturday’s Rebel. Yes, Ramon Dominguez allowed the colt to chase fast early fractions on a tiring track, but if that’s the only way this son of Unbridled’s Song can run, then he’s going to be up against it in the Kentucky Derby. It’s probably too late to expect any change in his running style.
7-Desert Party. Not much to say about son of Street Cry, who is being geared up for the UAE Derby in Dubai. One of these days, Sheikh Mohammed will succeed in winning the Kentucky Derby with a horse that winters in Dubai, but this is a tough group of 3-year-olds and I don’t this is going to be his year.
8-Imperial Council. Added son of Empire Maker to my list this week after going back and looking at his effort in the Gotham behind I Want Revenge. Looks like he’s got a lot of improvement left in him.
9-Theregoesjojo. Florida Derby will be make or break for the son of Brahms.
10-Dunkirk. I finally relented and added the unbeaten son of Unbridled’s Song onto my top 10, in part because of the disappointing performances of others last weekend in the Tampa Bay Derby and Louisiana Derby. I stand behind the belief that 2-year-old form’s historical significance in being able to win the Kentucky Derby is not an accident but a result of the unique and challenging circumstances of the race.
Interesting that four of my top 10 are by sons of Unbridled and three are by A.P. Indy or his sons or grandsons. That may be contributing to the overall quality of this group. It’s good to see stamina influences represented in such big numbers among the leading contenders for the Kentucky Derby.
| Paulick Report |
Fan Vote |
Alex Brown |
Paul Moran |
Billy Reed |
John Conte |
Bill Finley |
| Paulick Report |
Paulick Report |
Alex Brown Racing |
At The Races |
Billy Reed Says |
Conte’s Picks
|
ESPN, NYT |
| Pioneerof the Nile |
Friesan Fire |
Quality Road |
Friesan Fire |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Pioneerof the Nile |
| The Pamplemousse |
I Want Revenge |
Dunkirk |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Old Fashioned |
Friesan Fire |
Friesan Fire |
| Friesan Fire |
The Pamplemousse |
Friesan Fire |
Quality Road |
Friesan Fire |
I Want Revenge |
Old Fashioned |
| I Want Revenge |
Pioneerof the Nile |
The Pamplemousse |
I Want Revenge |
Dunkirk |
The Pamplemousse |
The Pamplemousse |
| Quality Road |
Dunkirk |
Rachel Alexandra |
Desert Party |
Quality Road |
Old Fashioned |
Quality Road |
| Old Fashioned |
Quality Road |
I Want Revenge |
Old Fashioned |
Imperial Council |
Dunkirk |
I Want Revenge |
| Desert Party |
Old Fashioned |
Desert Party |
The Pamplemousse |
Win Willy |
Chocolate Candy |
Desert Party |
| Imperial Council |
Desert Party |
Affirmatif |
Imperial Council |
I Want Revenge |
Win Willy |
Dunkirk |
| Theregoesjojo |
Win Willy |
Theregoesjojo |
Dunkirk |
The Pamplemousse |
Hello Broadway |
Papa Clem |
| Dunkirk |
Imperial Council |
Stardom Bound |
Rachel Alexandra |
Desert Party |
Beethoven |
Theregoesjojo |
| Randy Moss |
Bill Nack |
Valerie Grash |
Gary West |
Michael Nikolic |
Dana Byerly |
Jeremy Plonk |
| ESPN |
ESPN |
Foolish Pleasure |
FW Star-Telegram |
Gathering the Wind |
Green But Game |
Horseplayer Pro, ESPN |
| Quality Road |
Dunkirk |
Friesan Fire |
Quality Road |
Friesan Fire |
Friesan Fire |
Pioneerof the Nile |
| I Want Revenge |
Quality Road |
Rachel Alexandra |
I Want Revenge |
Desert Party |
Stardom Bound |
Friesan Fire |
| Dunkirk |
Friesan Fire |
Old Fashioned |
Dunkirk |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Old Fashioned |
Dunkirk |
| Friesan Fire |
The Pamplemousse |
Stardom Bound |
Friesan Fire |
I Want Revenge |
Desert Party |
Imperial Council |
| The Pamplemousse |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Papa Clem |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Chocolate Candy |
I Want Revenge |
Old Fashioned |
| Old Fashioned |
I Want Revenge |
I Want Revenge |
Old Fashioned |
Old Fashioned |
Quality Road |
Quality Road |
| Pioneerof the Nile |
Stardom Bound |
Imperial Council |
The Pamplemousse |
Papa Clem |
Theregoesjojo |
The Pamplemousse |
| Theregoesjojo |
Win Willy |
Mr. Hot Stuff |
Theregoesjojo |
Imperial Council |
Imperial Council |
Mr. Hot Stuff |
| Desert Party |
Desert Party |
Dunkirk |
Beethoven |
Theregoesjojo |
Flying Pegasus |
I Want Revenge |
| Win Willy |
Old Fashioned |
Desert Party |
Imperial Council |
Quality Road |
Beethoven |
Papa Clem |
| Bill Christine |
John Pricci |
Vic Zast |
Jon White |
Richard Eng |
Alan Mann |
Alicia Wincze |
| Horserace Insider |
Horserace Insider |
Horserace Insider |
HRTV, Santa Anita TV |
Las Vegas R-J |
Left at the Gate |
Lexington H-L |
| I Want Revenge |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Friesan Fire |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Friesan Fire |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Friesan Fire |
| Desert Party |
Friesan Fire |
Pioneerof the Nile |
I Want Revenge |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Friesan Fire |
Pioneerof the Nile |
| Pioneerof the Nile |
The Pamplemousse |
I Want Revenge |
Friesan Fire |
The Pamplemousse |
Stardom Bound |
Desert Party |
| Friesan Fire |
I Want Revenge |
Quality Road |
Quality Road |
Old Fashioned |
Dunkirk |
The Pamplemousse |
| Old Fashioned |
Quality Road |
Old Fashioned |
The Pamplemousse |
Quality Road |
The Pamplemousse |
Old Fashioned |
| The Pamplemousse |
Old Fashioned |
The Pamplemousse |
Old Fashioned |
Dunkirk |
I Want Revenge |
Quality Road |
| Theregoesjojo |
Dunkirk |
Dunkirk |
Papa Clem |
I Want Revenge |
Papa Clem |
I Want Revenge |
| Quality Road |
Desert Party |
Desert Party |
Dunkirk |
Theregoesjojo |
Imperial Council |
Chocolate Candy |
| Win Willy |
Rachel Alexandra |
Stardom Bound |
Chocolate Candy |
Beethoven |
Win Willy |
Papa Clem |
| Nowhere to Hide |
Papa Clem |
Chocolate Candy |
Theregoesjojo |
Patena |
Quality Road |
Beethoven |
| Art Wilson |
Joe Drape |
Andy Serling |
Jessica Chapel |
Brendan O’Meara |
Jeff Scott |
Lisa Grimm |
| Los Angeles Newspapers |
New York Times |
NYRA |
Railbird |
The Saratogian |
The Saratogian |
SuperfectaBlog |
| The Pamplemousse |
Friesan Fire |
Imperial Council |
Rachel Alexandra |
Friesan Fire |
I Want Revenge |
Pioneerof the Nile |
| Friesan Fire |
Pioneerof the Nile |
The Pamplemousse |
Friesan Fire |
Desert Party |
Friesan Fire |
The Pamplemousse |
| Pioneerof the Nile |
Quality Road |
Desert Party |
Desert Party |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Friesan Fire |
| Old Fashioned |
Old Fashioned |
I Want Revenge |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Dunkirk |
Desert Party |
I Want Revenge |
| Dunkirk |
The Pamplemousse |
Rachel Alexandra |
I Want Revenge |
Quality Road |
Flat Out |
Quality Road |
| I Want Revenge |
Theregoesjojo |
Quality Road |
Old Fashioned |
Old Fashioned |
Terrain |
Old Fashioned |
| Quality Road |
I Want Revenge |
Friesan Fire |
Quality Road |
The Pamplemousse |
Quality Road |
Chocolate Candy |
| Imperial Council |
Dunkirk |
Dunkirk |
Dunkirk |
I Want Revenge |
The Pamplemousse |
Stardom Bound |
| Desert Party |
Win Willy |
Just a Coincidence |
Imperial Council |
Win Willy |
Old Fashioned |
Desert Party |
| Giant Oak |
Terrain |
Win Willy |
Papa Clem |
Imperial Council |
Mr. Hot Stuff |
Papa Clem |
| Patrick Patten |
Peter Denk |
Nick Kling |
Simon Bray |
Todd Schrupp |
| Tbred Bloggers Alliance |
Thoroughbred Times |
The Troy Record |
TVG |
TVG |
| Friesan Fire |
I Want Revenge |
Friesan Fire |
I Want Revenge |
Desert Party |
| Chocolate Candy |
Friesan Fire |
Dunkirk |
Pioneerof the Nile |
The Pamplemousse |
| Pioneerof the Nile |
Pioneerof the Nile |
I Want Revenge |
Old Fashioned |
Odl Fashioned |
| The Pamplemousse |
Old Fashioned |
Imperial Council |
Friesan Fire |
Friesan Fire |
| I Want Revenge |
Dunkirk |
Old Fashioned |
The Pamplemousse |
Quality Road |
| Patena |
Quality Road |
Quality Road |
Dunkirk |
Dunkirk |
| Quality Road |
Desert Party |
The Pamplemousse |
Desert Party |
I Want Revenge |
| Papa Clem |
The Pamplemousse |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Quality Road |
Affirmatif |
| Terrain |
Win Willy |
Patena |
Chocolate Candy |
Pioneerof the Niile |
| General Quarters |
Theregoesjojo |
Beethoven |
Imperial Council |
Theregoesjojo |
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Tuesday, March 10th, 2009
In what is truly becoming a pattern, this weekend’s biggest winner I Want Revenge jumped from the bottom of our poll to the fourth position after romping in the Gotham Stakes at Aqueduct on Saturday afternoon. What should not be overlooked in the wake of his 8 1/2 length win is how much stronger the case can be made for Pioneerof the Nile. Head to head, Pioneer won by a narrow margin in the Hollywood Park CashCall Futurity and left Revenge in third in the Robert B. Lewis Stakes at Santa Anita. However, I Want Revenge proved that he can run on a dirt track in New York, something Pioneerof the Nile hasn’t yet done.
The two biggest losers of the week were Haynesfield and Stardom Bound. Haynesfield, one of the favorites going into the Gotham and a receipient of a first place vote in the last PDI, finished a dismal eighth and dropped completely out of the poll receiving no votes this week. And in light of a shaky performance and reports that Stardom Bound would be heading towards the Kentucky Oaks instead of the Derby, many of our voters dropped her from their lists causing her to fall from the 8th position to number 11.
While it was a relatively light weekend of racing, next week should be anything but with four major Derby preps being run. Study the poll closely this week. It may look very different after the smoke clears Sunday.
Ray’s Picks and Analysis
1-Pioneerof the Nile. West Coast clockers were buzzing again about the Bob Baffert-trained colt after last Sunday’s five-furlong workout in :58 4/5 at Santa Anita. The work came a day after I Want Revenge, the colt Pioneerof the Nile has defeated twice, romped to victory in the Gotham Stakes at Aqueduct. That East Coast win, while solidifying Pioneerof the Nile’s status as the West’s leading contender on the road to Churchill Downs, begs the question of how the switch from California’s synthetics to New York’s traditional dirt may have played into I Want Revenge’s stunning performance. Pioneerof the Nile (by Empire Maker) goes in Saturday’s Grade 2 San Felipe, part of a “fantastic four” afternoon of Kentucky Derby preps (along with Grade 3 Tampa Bay Derby, Grade 2 Rebel Stakes at Oaklawn, and Grade 2 Louisiana Derby at Fair Grounds).
2-Old Fashioned. Also fired a bullet in his weekend workout at Oaklawn in preparation for the Rebel. Son of Unbridled’s Song will be the heavy favorite to keep a perfect record for trainer Larry Jones and Rick Porter’s Fox Hill Farms. Will be interesting to see whether Silver City, second to Old Fashioned in the Southwest Stakes, can make Old Fashioned work even harder for this victory.
3-I Want Revenge. Hard to say anything bad about Saturday’s whiz-bang knockout of his Gotham rivals at Aqueduct, his first start on a dirt track after six races on synthetics in California. Son of A.P. Indy stallion Stephen Got Even was a good horse going into the race and came out of it a budding star. His trainer, Jeff Mullins, may not be the most desirable individual to put up on the Churchill Downs podium on Derby day (he’s had his share of medication violations and it wasn’t that long ago he called racing fans “addicts and idiots”).But just like Big Brown last year, let’s not hold the horse accountable for the trainer’s bad behavior.
4-The Pamplemousse. Kafwain colt had an easy week after his big victory in the Sham Stakes at Santa Anita. Should start gearing up for his next start in the coming days.
5-Quality Road. Would like to see trainer Jimmy Jerkens ship Elusive Quality colt north for the Wood Memorial and take on I Want Revenge. Right now I would give the edge to I Want Revenge because of his experience edge, particularly around two turns.
6-Friesan Fire. He’ll have his biggest test yet in the Louisiana Derby on Saturday and certainly didn’t scare anyone away, as nine other 3-year-olds will line up against him. Son of A.P. Indy blazed five furlongs Monday in :58 1/5 at Fair Grounds for Larry Jones to show that he’s on edge.
7-Desert Party. Not much news from the desert on Sheikh Mohammed’s leading Kentucky Derby candidate. I wouldn’t bet against son of Street Cry in U.A.E. Derby coming up later this month, but it’s a big hill to climb to run there and then ship halfway around the world for the Kentucky Derby.
8-Beethoven. I still consider Sky Mesa colt a legitimate dark horse for the Derby. Cutting back from two turns to one-turn mile in Fountain of Youth was not to his advantage. He needs to step up much bigger in next start.
9-Patena. Saturday’s Louisiana Derby will in some ways be a test to see if Rick Dutrow can move the Seeking the Gold colt up from his previous trainer, Josie Carroll, following IEAH Stable’s purchase of a majority interest. Runner-up to Friesan Fire last out had a solid :58 2/5 drill at Gulfstream Park on Monday. Definitely one to watch.
10-Theregoesjojo: It was a toss-up whether to keep son of Sky Mesa in the 10 position or bump him in favor of Stardom Bound, the desperate winner of Saturday’s Santa Anita Oaks who most likely is off the Kentucky Derby trail. It’s pretty clear that trainer Robert Frankel thinks Stardom Bound needs to stay in her own division, though it’s possible he could be overruled if she wins big in the Ashland Stakes at Keeneland next out. Theregoesjojo figures to improve off his effort in the Fountain of Youth.
Each of the four Derby preps this weekend will be interesting in its own way. Can Pioneerof the Nile continue his march successfully at Santa Anita? Will anyone stop Old Fashioned at Oaklawn? How will the Friesan Fire-Patena rematch play out? Did Barclay Tagg make the right move by shipping Hello Broadway to Tampa Bay for the Derby there? We’ll have some answers on Saturday night.
| Ray Paulick |
Fan Vote |
Alex Brown |
Paul Moran |
Billy Reed |
John Conte |
Bill Finley |
| Paulick Report |
Paulick Report |
Alex Brown Racing |
At The Races |
Billy Reed Says |
Conte’s Picks |
ESPN, NYT |
| Pioneerof the Nile |
Old Fashioned |
Quality Road |
Old Fashioned |
Old Fashioned |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Old Fashioned |
| Old Fashioned |
I Want Revenge |
Dunkirk |
Stardom Bound |
Quality Road |
Old Fashioned |
Pioneerof the Nile |
| I Want Revenge |
The Pamplemousse |
The Pamplemousse |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Dunkirk |
I Want Revenge |
Friesan Fire |
| The Pamplemousse |
Friesan Fire |
I Want Revenge |
Quality Road |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Dunkirk |
The Pamplemousse |
| Quality Road |
Quality Road |
Rachel Alexandra |
I Want Revenge |
Friesan Fire |
West Side Bernie |
Quality Road |
| Friesan Fire |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Desert Party |
Hello Broadway |
Hello Broadway |
Chocolate Candy |
I Want Revenge |
| Desert Party |
Dunkirk |
Pioneerof the Nile |
The Pamplemousse |
Desert Party |
Capt. Candyman Can |
Desert Party |
| Beethoven |
Imperial Council |
Friesan Fire |
Friesan Fire |
Patena |
The Pamplemousse |
Dunkirk
|
| Patena |
Desert Party |
Patena |
Desert Party |
Beethoven |
Hello Broadway |
Silver City |
| Theregoesjojo |
Patena |
Hello Broadway |
Dunkirk |
Stardom Bound |
Giant Oak |
Patena |
| Randy Moss |
Bill Nack |
Valerie Grash |
Gary West |
Michael Nikolic |
Dana Byerly |
Jeremy Plonk |
| ESPN |
ESPN |
Foolish Pleasure |
FW Star-Telegram |
Gathering the Wind |
Green But Game |
Horseplayer Pro, ESPN |
| Quality Road |
Dunkirk |
Friesan Fire |
Old Fashioned |
Old Fashioned |
Old Fashioned |
Pioneerof the Nile |
| I Want Revenge |
The Pamplemousse |
Old Fashioned |
Quality Road |
Friesan Fire |
Friesan Fire |
Old Fashioned |
| Old Fashioned |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Stardom Bound |
Dunkirk |
Desert Party |
Flying Pegasus |
Patena |
| Dunkirk |
I Want Revenge |
Rachel Alexandra |
Hello Broadway |
Patena |
Desert Party |
Friesan Fire |
| Pioneerof the Nile |
Quality Road |
I Want Revenge |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Quality Road |
Imperial Council |
| The Pamplemousse |
Old Fashioned |
Papa Clem |
Friesan Fire |
I Want Revenge |
I Want Revenge |
Hello Broadway |
| Friesan Fire |
Stardom Bound |
Hello Broadway |
I Want Revenge |
Chocolate Candy |
Patena |
Dunkirk |
| Theregoesjojo |
Friesan Fire |
Mr. Hot Stuff |
Giant Oak |
Papa Clem |
Theregoesjojo |
Quality Road |
| Desert Party |
Desert Party |
Imperial Council |
Patena |
Quality Road |
Imperial Council |
The Pamplemousse |
| Beethoven |
Giant Oak |
Dunkirk |
Flying Pegasus |
Flying Pegasus |
Nowhere to Hide |
Mr. Hot Stuff |
| Bill Christine |
John Pricci |
Vic Zast |
Jon White |
Richard Eng |
Alan Mann |
Alicia Wincze |
| Horserace Insider |
Horserace Insider |
Horserace Insider |
HRTV, Santa Anita TV |
Las Vegas R-J |
Left at the Gate |
Lexington H-L |
| Old Fashioned |
Old Fashioned |
Old Fashioned |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Patena |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Old Fashioned |
| I Want Revenge |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Old Fashioned |
Old Fashioned |
Friesan Fire |
Friesan Fire |
| Desert Party |
The Pamplemousse |
Stardom Bound |
I Want Revenge |
Friesan Fire |
Old Fashioned |
Pioneerof the Nile |
| Pioneerof the Nile |
I Want Revenge |
The Pamplemousse |
Quality Road |
The Pamplemousse |
Papa Clem |
Desert Party |
| Friesan Fire |
Friesan Fire |
Friesan Fire |
The Pamplemousse |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Stardom Bound |
The Pamplemousse |
| Quality Road |
Stardom Bound |
Dunkirk |
Friesan Fire |
Quality Road |
Dunkirk |
Quality Road |
| Vineyard Haven |
Quality Road |
Desert Party |
Patena |
Dunkirk |
The Pamplemousse |
I Want Revenge |
| The Pamplemousse |
Dunkirk |
Capt. Candyman Can |
Papa Clem |
I Want Revenge |
I Want Revenge |
Hello Broadway |
| Theregoesjojo |
Desert Party |
Chocolate Candy |
Dunkirk |
Danger to Society |
Flying Pegasus |
Chocolate Candy |
| Patena |
Hello Broadway |
Quality Road |
Chocolate Candy |
Theregoesjojo |
Imperial Council |
Beethoven |
| Art Wilson |
Joe Drape |
Andy Serling |
Jessica Chapel |
Brendan O’Meara |
Jeff Scott |
Lisa Grimm |
| Los Angeles Newspapers |
New York Times |
NYRA |
Railbird |
The Saratogian |
The Saratogian |
SuperfectaBlog |
| The Pamplemousse |
Old Fashioned |
Imperial Council |
Old Fashioned |
Friesan Fire |
I Want Revenge |
Pioneerof the Nile |
| Old Fashioned |
Pioneerof the Nile |
The Pamplemousse |
Desert Party |
Old Fashioned |
Pioneerof the Nile |
The Pamplemousse |
| Pioneerof the Nile |
Quality Road |
Desert Party |
Friesan Fire |
Desert Party |
Friesan Fire |
Old Fashioned |
| Dunkirk |
The Pamplemousse |
I Want Revenge |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Quality Road |
Desert Party |
Friesan Fire |
| I Want Revenge |
Theregoesjojo |
Rachel Alexandra |
I Want Revenge |
Dunkirk |
Old Fashioned |
I Want Revenge |
| Quality Road |
Friesan Fire |
Quality Road |
Flying Pegasus |
Take the Points |
Flat Out |
Quality Road |
| Papa Clem |
Hello Broadway |
Danger to Society |
Regal Ransom |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Quality Road |
Chocolate Candy |
| Imperial Council |
Sumo |
Old Fashioned |
Dunkirk |
I Want Revenge |
The Pamplemousse |
Stardom Bound |
| Friesan Fire |
Dunkirk |
Dunkirk |
Quality Road |
Imperial Council |
General Quarters |
Patena |
| Desert Party |
I Want Revenge |
Hello Broadway |
Papa Clem |
Nowhere to Hide |
Mr. Hot Stuff |
Hello Broadway |
| Patrick Patten |
Peter Denk |
Nick Kling |
Simon Bray |
Todd Schrupp |
| Tbred Bloggers Alliance |
Thoroughbred Times |
The Troy Record |
TVG |
TVG |
| Friesan Fire |
Old Fashioned |
Old Fashioned |
Old Fashioned |
Old Fashioned |
| General Quarters |
Dunkirk |
Patena |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Desert Party |
| Chocolate Candy |
Quality Road |
Dunkirk |
I Want Revenge |
The Pamplemousse |
| Pioneerof the Nile |
Desert Party |
Friesan Fire |
The Pamplemousse |
Quality Road |
| The Pamplemousse |
Pioneerof the Nile |
I Want Revenge |
Friesan Fire |
Friesan Fire |
| Hello Broadway |
I Want Revenge |
Imperial Council |
Dunkirk |
Dunkirk |
| I Want Revenge |
Patena |
Hello Broadway |
Hello Broadway |
I Want Revenge |
| Old Fashioned |
Friesan Fire |
Flying Pegasus |
Chocolate Candy |
Affirmatif |
| Patena |
The Pamplemousse |
Giant Oak |
Quality Road |
Pioneerof the Nile |
| Quality Road |
Imperial Council |
Beethoven |
Desert Party |
Stardom Bound |
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Tuesday, March 3rd, 2009
It seems that a trend is developing in the run up to the Derby. The last two weeks, we have had a contender appear out of nowhere to take the fourth position and even earn a couple of first place votes. Quality Road’s impeccable run to take the Fasig-Tipton Fountain of Youth over some very impressive competition clearly made an impression on our voters.
Of course, this performance should not overshadow the equally strong outing by The Pamplemousse who rose seven places in our poll, moving comfortably into fifth place. It appears there might be a slight dirt vs. synthetic bias creeping in as Quality Road edges out The Pamplemousse and Old Fashioned continues to lead Pioneerof the Nile.
We have been honored with a few additional pollsters this week, adding Los Angeles Newspaper Group’s Art Wilson, Dana Byerly of Green But Game, web pioneer Alex Brown and Simon Bray of TVG. We are confident their expertise and passion for the game will be a great addition. Also, we would like to thank ESPN.com, the Lexington Herald-Leader and The Saratogian for picking up the weekly PDI.
Ray’s Picks and Analysis
1-Pioneerof the Nile. Nothing has happened to change my belief that this son of the Unbridled stallion Empire Maker has the right profile to win the Kentucky Derby: solid pedigree, experience in high-class 2-year-old races, and a trainer who knows how to get a colt ready for his best on the first Saturday in May.
2-Old Fashioned. Interesting that Unbridled is the grandsire of the top two horses on my list. One of the most important sources of stamina we have in the Thoroughbred gene pool today, Unbridled (by the Mr. Prospector stallion Fappiano) was dismissed by speed figure followers coming into the 1990 Kentucky Derby. I thought his victory that year served as a reminder that the Derby is unique, and that traditional handicapping methods are not well-suited to the race. It’s more about horsemanship and getting a peak performance on the right afternoon, something Carl Nafzger did with Unbridled.
3-The Pamplemousse. Naysayers knock him as having a sprinter’s pedigree (by Kafwain, a son of sprint champion Cherokee Run, out of a Rubiano mare), but how could you not like the way he strided out down the stretch to pull away from his opponents in the nine-furlong Sham Stakes on Santa Anita’s synthetic Pro-Ride track? Appears to have just one way to go, and that’s on the front end.
4-Stardom Bound. We’ll know more about how last year’s 2-year-old filly champion is doing after Saturday’s Santa Anita Oaks. I think she’s an exceptional filly who will hold her own against colts if given the opportunity. Tapit, was a top-notch racehorse who was undone by the horribly sloppy conditions of the Churchill Downs track when Smarty Jones won the 2004 Derby, and he’s turning into a very promising young sire.
5-Quality Road. Lived up to his sensational morning workouts when he trounced his rivals in the Fasig-Tipton Fountain of Youth Stakes at Gulfstream Park. Though it was only a one-turn mile (a configuration, by the way, that used to be considered a good prep in New York for horses like Secretariat and Easy Goer when the Gotham Stakes was run at that distance), Quality Road seemed to settle fine just off the early pace and move to the lead whenever John Velazquez wanted. Son of Elusive Quality (sire of Smarty Jones) will have to prove himself around two turns, and that opportunity probably will arise in the Wood Memorial at Aqueduct.
6-Friesan Fire. Like several of my other top contenders, this son of A.P. Indy has a pedigree that suggests a mile and a quarter is within his scope. Of course, to quote the great Charlie Whittingham, “I know he can get a mile and a quarter. I just don’t know how fast!” The intriguing aspect of Friesan Fire’s family is the Australian female side that traces back to the exceptional racemare Bint Marscay and the great sire Sir Tristram. We’ll know more about his quality after the March 14 Louisiana Derby at Fair Grounds, where he’s already won the LeComte and Risen Star Stakes.
7-Desert Party. The mystery horse from Dubai who’s burden got a lot heavier this past week with the announcement from Godolphin that 2-year-old champ and Breeders’ Cup Juvenile winner Midshipman was injured and is off the Derby trail. A good 2-year-old in the U.S. last year, Desert Party has looked good thus far in Dubai but has some history to overcome.
8-Beethoven. If Gulfstream Park’s main track was playing to speed last Saturday, then Beethoven got the worst of it in the Fasig-Tipton Fountain of Youth Stakes. The son of Sky Mesa came from far back in the one-turn mile to get third, which was a forward moving performance that should be encouraging to his connections.
9-Patena. Aside from the super-hyped allowance winner Dunkirk (not on my top 10), no horse is getting more pre-race attention than this son of Seeking the Gold, who was purchased by IEAH Stables after running second to Friesan Fire in the LeComte Stakes in January and shifted from the barn of Josie Carroll to Rick Dutrow. All systems appear to be a go for the Louisiana Derby after a six-furlong workout at Gulfstream Park last Saturday. The important thing, according to Dutrow, is that Patena “scoped clean” after the work. He had been coughing for about 10 days, the trainer said. “We’ve been clearing different issues, and it seems to all be coming together,” Dutrow said.
10-Theregoesjojo. Finished well to be second to Quality Road in the Fasig-Tipton Fountain of Youth for trainer Ken McPeek, who was pleased with the effort. Son of Brahms (by Danzig) defeated Quality Road in his previous start Jan. 10 and should be tighter after his most recent race. Not sure where he will surface, but it won’t take that much improvement for Jojo to get his first stakes win.
| Ray Paulick |
Fan Vote |
Alex Brown |
Paul Moran |
Bill Reed |
John Conte |
Bill Finley |
| Paulick Report |
Paulick Report |
Alex Brown Racing |
At The Races |
Billy Reed Says |
Conte’s Picks |
ESPN, NYT |
| Pioneerof the Nile |
Old Fashioned |
Quality Road |
Old Fashioned |
Old Fashioned |
Old Fashioned |
Old Fashioned |
| Old Fashioned |
The Pamplemousse |
Dunkirk |
Stardom Bound |
Quality Road |
The Pamplemousse |
Pioneerof the Nile |
| The Pamplemousse |
Quality Road |
Stardom Bound |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Dunkirk |
Dunkirk |
Friesan Fire |
| Stardom Bound |
Dunkirk |
Old Fashioned |
Quality Road |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Pioneerof the Nile |
The Pamplemousse |
| Quality Road |
Pioneerof the Nile |
The Pamplemousse |
Hello Broadway |
Friesan Fire |
Quality Road |
Stardom Bound |
| Friesan Fire |
Friesan Fire |
Rachel Alexandra |
The Pamplemousse |
Hello Broadway |
Haynesfield |
Quality Road |
| Desert Party |
Stardom Bound |
Desert Party |
Friesan Fire |
Desert Party |
Friesan Fire |
Desert Party |
| Beethoven |
Desert Party |
Affirmatif |
Desert Party |
Patena |
Hello Broadway |
Haynesfield |
| Patena |
Patena |
Haynesfield |
Evita Argentina |
Beethoven |
Chocolate Candy |
Dunkirk |
| Theregoesjojo |
Hello Broadway |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Dunkirk |
Stardom Bound |
West Side Bernie |
Siver City |
| Randy Moss |
Bill Nack |
Valerie Grash |
Gary West |
Michael Nikolic |
Dana Byerly |
Jeremy Plonk |
| ESPN |
ESPN |
Foolish Pleasure |
FW Star-Telegram |
Gathering The Wind |
Green But Game |
Horseplayer Pro, ESPN |
| Quality Road |
Dunkirk |
Friesan Fire |
Old Fashioned |
Old Fashioned |
Old Fashioned |
N/A |
| Old Fashioned |
The Pamplemousse |
Old Fashioned |
Dunkirk |
Friesan Fire |
Stardom Bound |
N/A |
| Dunkirk |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Stardom Bound |
Quality Road |
Desert Party |
Friesan Fire |
N/A |
| The Pamplemousse |
Quality Road |
Rachel Alexandra |
Hello Broadway |
Patena |
Flying Pegasus |
N/A |
| Friesan Fire |
Friesan Fire |
Desert Party |
Friesan Fire |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Desert Party |
N/A |
| Pioneerof the Nile |
Old Fashioned |
Dunkirk |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Chocolate Candy |
Quality Road |
N/A |
| Theregoesjojo |
Giant Oak |
Chocolate Candy |
Imperial Council |
Papa Clem |
Patena |
N/A |
| Desert Party |
Desert Party |
Papa Clem |
Giant Oak |
Quality Road |
Theregoesjojo |
N/A |
| Beethoven |
Stardom Bound |
Hello Broadway |
Patena |
Flying Pegasus |
Imperial Council |
N/A |
| Hello Broadway |
Patena |
Mr. Hot Stuff |
Flying Pegasus |
Dunkirk |
Nowhere to Hide |
N/A |
| Bill Christine |
John Pricci |
Vic Zast |
Jon White |
Richard Eng |
Alan Mann |
Alicia Wincze |
| Horserace Insider |
Horserace Insider |
Horserace Insider |
HRTV, Santa Anita TV |
Las Vegas R-J |
Left At The Gate |
Lexington H-L |
| Old Fashioned |
Old Fashioned |
Old Fashioned |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Patena |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Old Fashioned |
| Desert Party |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Old Fashioned |
Old Fashioned |
Friesan Fire |
Friesan Fire |
| Pioneerof the Nile |
Stardom Bound |
Stardom Bound |
Stardom Bound |
Friesan Fire |
Old Fashioned |
Pioneerof the Nile |
| Friesan Fire |
The Pamplemousse |
The Pamplemousse |
Quality Road |
The Pamplemousse |
Dunkirk |
Desert Party |
| Stardom Bound |
Quality Road |
Friesan Fire |
The Pamplemousse |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Papa Clem |
Stardom Bound |
| Quality Road |
Friesan Fire |
Dunkirk |
Friesan Fire |
Quality Road |
Big Drama |
The Pamplemousse |
| Haynesfield |
Hello Broadway |
Desert Party |
Patena |
Dunkirk |
Stardom Bound |
Quality Road |
| Vineyard Haven |
Mr. Fantasy |
Capt. Candyman Can |
Papa Clem |
Haynesfield |
The Pamplemousse |
Hello Broadway |
| The Pamplemousse |
Theregoesjojo |
Chocolate Candy |
I Want Revenge |
Mr. Fantasy |
Mr. Fantasy |
Haynesfield |
| Theregoesjojo |
Desert Party |
Quality Road |
Dunkirk |
Danger to Society |
Flying Pegasus |
Chocolate Candy |
| Art Wilson |
Joe Drape |
Andy Serling |
Brendan O’Meara |
Jeff Scott
|
Jessica Chapel
|
Lisa Grimm
|
| LA Newspaper Group |
New York Times |
NYRA |
The Saratogian |
The Saratogian
|
Railbird
|
SuperfectaBlog
|
| Haynesfield |
Old Fashioned |
Desert Party |
Friesan Fire |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Old Fashioned |
Pioneerof the Nile |
| The Pamplemousse |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Giant Oak |
Old Fashioned |
Friesan Fire |
Desert Party |
The Pamplemousse |
| Old Fashioned |
Quality Road |
The Pamplemousse |
Desert Party |
Desert Party |
Friesan Fire |
Old Fashioned |
| Pioneerof the Nile |
The Pamplemousse |
Imperial Council |
Quality Road |
Old Fashioned |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Friesan Fire |
| Dunkirk |
Theregoesjojo |
Rachel Alexandra |
Dunkirk |
Flat Out |
Flying Pegasus |
Stardom Bound |
| Quality Road |
Friesan Fire |
Quality Road |
Take the Points |
Dunkirk |
Regal Ransom |
Chocolate Candy |
| Papa Clem |
Hello Broadway |
Danger to Society |
The Pamplemousse |
General Quarters |
Papa Clem |
Patena |
| Friesan Fire |
Haynesfield |
Old Fashioned |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Quality Road |
Dunkirk |
Quality Road |
| Desert Party |
Sumo |
Dunkirk |
Nowhere to Hide |
The Pamplemousse |
Capt. Candyman Can |
Hello Broadway |
| I Want Revenge |
Dunkirk |
Hello Broadway |
Imperial Council |
Mr. Hot Stuff |
The Pamplemousse |
Capt. Candyman Can |
Patrick Patten
|
Peter Denk
|
Nick Kling
|
Simon Bray
|
Todd Schrupp
|
Tbred Bloggers Alliance
|
Thoroughbred Times
|
The Troy Record
|
TVG
|
TVG
|
| Friesan Fire |
Old Fashioned |
Old Fashioned |
Old Fashioned |
Old Fashioned |
| General Quarters |
Dunkirk |
Patena |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Stardom Bound |
| Chocolate Candy |
Quality Road |
Dunkirk |
The Pamplemousse |
Desert Party |
| Pioneerof the Nile |
Desert Party |
Imperial Council |
Friesan Fire |
The Pamplemousse |
| The Pamplemousse |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Friesan Fire |
Dunkirk |
Quality Road |
| Hello Broadway |
Stardom Bound |
Hello Broadway |
I Want Revenge |
Friesan Fire |
| Patena |
Patena |
Flying Pegasus |
Hello Broadway |
Dunkirk |
| Old Fashioned |
Friesan Fire |
Giant Oak |
Chocolate Candy |
Affirmatif |
| Quality Road |
The Pamplemousse |
West Side Bernie |
Quality Road |
Pioneerof the Nile |
| Flying Pegasus |
Mr. Fantasy |
Beethoven |
Desert Party |
I Want Revenge |
Tags: Alan Mann, alex brown, Alicia Wincze, andy serling, Art Wilson, bill christine, bill finley, bill nack, Billy Reed, Brendan O'Meara, Chocolate Candy, Dana Byerly, desert party, dunkirk, Flying Pegasus, Friesan Fire, Gary West, General Quarters, giant oak, Haynesfield, Hello Broadway, I Want Revenge, Imperial Council, Jeff Scott, Jeremy Plonk, Jessica Chapel, Joe Drape, John Conte, John Pricci, Jon White, Lisa Grimm, Michael Nikolic, Nick Kling, Old Fashioned, Papa Clem, patena, Patrick Patten, Paul Moran, Peter Denk, Pioneerof The Nile, Quality Road, Rachel Alexandra, randy moss, Ray Paulick, Richard Eng, Simon Bray, stardom bound, The Pamplemousse, Theregoesjojo, Todd Schrupp, Valerie Grash, Vic Zast Posted in PDI, Paulick Derby Index | 9 Comments »
Tuesday, February 17th, 2009
The first Derby Future bets have been placed and nearly every major 3 year old contender has run in 2009 so we decided this would be the ideal time to roll out the first Paulick Derby Index (PDI). While it seems everyone and their apprentice jockey are making Derby watch lists this year, we realized there was no central body that aggregated Derby picks to create our industry’s version of a Coach’s or AP Poll, so we decided to take on that task.
But because our industry is in such a state of flux and because there are so many important groups of people who have a vested interest in the run up to the Triple Crown, we have decided to do things a little differently. Instead of the typical writer’s association poll or biased coach’s rankings, we are including many of the walks of life that make our sport so rich. Below, you will find some of the top turf writers, Thoroughbred bloggers and handicappers in the industry.
We are featuring prize winning journalists like Bill Nack, Billy Reed and Bill Christine, ESPN’s Randy Moss, Handicapper of the Year John Conte and several of the top bloggers in the Thoroughbred Bloggers Alliance among others. And next week, we will even include a fan vote that you can take part in through our polling function on the front page of the Paulick Report. Oh, and there’s this guy named Ray who will be chiming in each week as well.
Below, you will find our PDI Top 20, Ray’s in depth analysis of each of his picks and a chart of each voter’s top ten list. So take a few minutes, or an hour, and let us know where you think we are right, what we got wrong and why you are smarter than us! Hopefully you will find this information to be as much fun to read as we had putting it together.
RAY’S PICKS AND ANALYSIS
1. Pioneerof The Nile. I’m one of those believers who considers 2-year-old experience at top-class levels to be an important factor toward winning the Kentucky Derby, with its oversized field and frenetic atmosphere. While it’s easy to get excited about late developers who had limited or no racing experience at two, history shows us not only that 2-year-old form is important, so is the level of competition in their juvenile campaign. By virtue of the fact he never sprinted, Pioneerof The Nile was unlikely to be considered a “precocious” 2-year-old. His pedigree (Empire Maker out of a Lord at War mare) also suggests late development. He appears to be improving with every start, and, of course, is in the hands of a trainer, Bob Baffert, who knows how to get a horse to peak for big races.
2. Old Fashioned. There’s nothing wrong with perfection, and Old Fashioned has made no mistakes thus far in four starts. Despite recent trends, I’ve not been a big fan of the Oaklawn Park route to the Derby because I don’t believe the depth of competition is very strong. This Unbridled’s Song colt has been cut out to be a good one from day one, however, and it’s difficult to question any decisions made by one of the game’s most successful trainers of the last few years, Larry Jones.
3. Stardom Bound. This is one of the best young fillies I’ve seen in many years, and hat’s off to Christopher Paasch for the outstanding job he did with her during her championship year at two. New trainer Robert Frankel appears to be trying to lower expectations for IEAH, which I don’t think paid $5.7 million to see her win the Kentucky Oaks. I can’t see anyone beating her in the Santa Anita Oaks, a victory in which should seal the deal for a race against colts in the Kentucky Derby. I think it’s a challenge fans will want to see.
4. Friesan Fire. One of the strengths of this year’s group of Derby contenders is the sire power, and no one has that more in spades than this son of A.P. Indy. Since having blinkers added to his equipment, Friesan Fire’s he’s been all business for Larry Jones, though like Old Fashioned I question the strength of competition he’ll be facing in his Derby preps in Louisiana.
5. Desert Party. One of a trio of Godolphin-owned horses now training in Dubai for a possible Kentucky Derby run, this son of Street Cry showed a powerful turn of foot to win the UAE Two Thousand Guineas over Vineyard Haven, among others. A highly regarded sale 2-year-old, he showed good form for Eoin Harty last year and appears to be adapting well to the desert training regimen for Saeed bin Suroor.
6. Patena. A bit of a late bloomer, all eyes will be on this son of Seeking the Gold as he makes his first start for IEAH and trainer Rick Dutrow. Outstanding pedigree to get the Derby distance. Could be the most-hyped horse of the spring, especially if he wins first-time out for Dutrow.
7. Midshipman. Hard to move a horse up from Bob Baffert, especially one that came to hand so quickly once he broke his maiden in August. Son of Unbridled’s Song has the appearance of an exceptional 2-year-old whose classmates are catching up to him. Will be interesting to see how he has adapted to training in Dubai for Saeed bin Suroor.
8. Vineyard Haven. Will improve off his fourth-place finish behind Desert Party in Dubai, but it’s hard to see this son of Lido Palace moving up off what Hall of Fame conditioner Frankel was able to get from him last year. Not convinced he has the pedigree to get the distance, either.
9. Beethoven. Got the worst of the post position and anti-outside track bias in the Holy Bull Stakes in a race a he likely needed. Needs to step up in next start to prove he has the class to compete at top level.
10. Giant Oak. Could be the breakout horse for Illinois-based trainer Chris Block, who hasn’t had any opportunities in national spotlight yet. Giant’s Causeway colt shows signs of talent but has had bad racing luck. Must put it all together soon in order to be a serious contender.
INDIVIDUAL PDI BALLOTS
| Ray Paulick |
Paul Moran |
Billy Reed |
John Conte |
Bill Finley |
| Paulick Report |
At The Races |
Billy Reed Says |
Conte’s Picks |
ESPN, NYT |
| Pioneerof the Nile |
Old Fashioned |
Old Fashioned |
Old Fashioned |
Old Fashioned |
| Old Fashioned |
Stardom Bound |
Midshipman |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Pioneerof the Nile |
| Stardom Bound |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Chocolate Candy |
Capt. Candyman Man |
Friesan Fire |
| Friesan Fire |
Midshipman |
Evita Argentina |
Midshipman |
Stardom Bound |
| Desert Party |
Hello Broadway |
Silver City |
Chocolate Candy |
Capt. Candyman Can |
| Patena |
Taquarub |
Pioneerof the Nile |
West Side Bernie |
Silver City |
| Midshipman |
Notonthesamepage |
Capt. Candyman Can |
Friesan Fire |
Haynesfield |
| Vineyard Haven |
Friesan Fire |
Friesan Fire |
The Pamplemousse |
Midshipman |
| Beethoven |
Desert Party |
Beethoven |
Hello Broadway |
Flying Pegasus |
| Giant Oak |
Evita Argentina |
Imperial Council |
Haynesfield |
Patena |
| Randy Moss |
Bill Nack |
Gary West |
Michael Nikolic |
Jeremy Plonk |
| ESPN |
ESPN |
Star-Telegram |
Gathering The Wind |
Horseplayer Pro, ESPN |
| Old Fashioned |
Friesan Fire |
Old Fashioned |
Old Fashioned |
Old Fashioned |
| Friesan Fire |
Giant Oak |
Hello Broadway |
Friesan Fire |
Patena |
| Pioneerof the Nile |
Haynesfield |
Friesan Fire |
Patena |
Mr. Fantasy |
| Capt. Candyman Can |
Stardom Bound |
Capt. Candyman Can |
Flying Pegasus |
Pioneerof the Nile |
| Desert Party |
Old Fashioned |
Giant Oak |
Chocolate Candy |
Friesan Fire |
| Hello Broadway |
Silver City |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Desert Party |
Imperial Council |
| Midshipman |
Patena |
Imperial Council |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Hello Broadway |
| Flying Pegasus |
I Want Revenge |
Patena |
Papa Clem |
Capt. Candyman Can |
| Patena |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Flying Pegasus |
Parade Clown |
Silver City |
| Giant Oak |
|
Taqarub |
Giant Oak |
Notonthesamepage |
| Bill Christine |
John Pricci |
Vic Zast |
Jon White |
Alan Mann |
| Horserace Insider |
Horserace Insider |
Horserace Insider |
HRTV, Santa Anita TV |
Left At The Gate |
| Old Fashioned |
Old Fashioned |
Old Fashioned |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Pioneerof the Nile |
| Midshipman |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Old Fashioned |
Friesan Fire |
| Desert Party |
Stardom Bound |
Capt. Candyman Can |
Stardom Bound |
Capt. Candyman Can |
| Pioneerof The Nile |
Capt. Candyman Can |
Stardom Bound |
Friesan Fire |
Old Fashioned |
| Friesan Fire |
Midshipman |
Friesan Fire |
Patena |
Papa Clem |
| Stardom Bound |
Hello Broadway |
Desert Party |
Capt. Candyman Can |
Big Drama |
| Beethoven |
Mr. Fantasy |
Chocolate Candy |
Papa Clem |
Stardom Bound |
| Haynesfield |
West Side Bernie |
Flying Pegasus |
I Want Revenge |
Mr. Fantasy |
| Capt. Candyman Can |
Friesan Fire |
Giant Oak |
Chocolate Candy |
Flying Pegasus |
| Vineyard Haven |
Quality Road |
Haynesfield |
The Pamplemousse |
Dunkirk |
| Alicia Wincze |
Joe Drape |
Brendan O’Meara |
Jeff Scott |
Patrick Patten |
| Lexington H-L |
New York Times |
The Saratogian |
The Saratogian |
Tbred Bloggers Alliance |
| Old Fashioned |
Old Fashioned |
Friesan Fire |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Friesan Fire |
| Friesan Fire |
Pioneerof the Nile |
Old Fashioned |
Old Fashioned |
General Quarters |
| Pioneerof the Nile |
Evita Argentina |
Desert Party |
Desert Party |
Chocolate Candy |
| Capt. Candyman Can |
Capt. Candyman Can |
Flat Out |
Friesan Fire |
Pioneer of the Nile |
| Desert Party |
Leedstheway |
Take the Points |
Flat Out |
Patena |
| Midshipman |
Hello Broadway |
Nowhere to Hide |
Beethoven |
Hello Broadway |
| Stardom Bound |
Chocolate Candy |
Imperial Council |
General Quarters |
Old Fashioned |
| Beethoven |
Haynesfield |
Danger to Society |
Mr. Hot Stuff |
The Pamplemousse |
| Hello Broadway |
Friesan Fire |
Midshipman |
Stardom Bound |
Flying Pegasus |
| Haynesfield |
Sumo |
Vineyard Haven |
Midshipman |
Notonthesamepage |
| Peter Denk |
Nick Kling |
| Thoroughbred Times |
The Troy Record |
| Old Fashioned |
Old Fashioned |
| Desert Party |
Capt. Candyman Can |
| Midshipman |
Patena |
| Pioneerof the Nile |
Imperial Council |
| Patena |
Friesan Fire |
| Friesan Fire |
Hello Broadway |
| Capt. Candyman Can |
Flying Pegasus |
| Hello Broadway |
Giant Oak |
| Mr. Fantasy |
West Side Bernie |
| Imperial Council |
Beethoven |
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