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	<title>Comments on: RACHEL VS. ZENYATTA: CHAMPIONS FOR A NEW GENERATION</title>
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		<title>By: Ray Wong</title>
		<link>http://www.paulickreport.com/blog/rachel-vs-zenyatta-champions-for-a-new-generation/comment-page-1/#comment-18449</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray Wong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AAForever,

Well, you can't really takeaway races or wins can you?  If you could Mine That Bird wouldn't attract crowds where ever he goes.  2nd in the Preakness and 3rd in the Belmont is not the same as the 'Kentucky Derby Winner' !

But more importantly, takeaway Touch Gold's tremendous stretch drive in the '97 Belmont and suddenly Silver Charm might be one of the top 25 horses of all time--not languishing away at #63.  Where would Smarty Jones be if not for Birdstone in '04?  Point Given if not for Monarchos' Secretariat-esque Derby run?  I could go on but surely you will admit 'point given' ?

Yet suppose for a moment we play your takeaway game.  You propose we takeaway a $5 million race with what some call the deepest field of horses assembled this year.  Then Zenyatta is left with just 4 races, 3 of which she beat the eventual 2009 BC Ladies Classic champion, Life is Sweet.

Now we takeaway Rachel's most impressive victory.  It's a tough call, because if you look closely at the fields, none were very deep.  But takeaway the Haskell because Summer Bird is arguably the best horse she's run against this year.  Rachel is left with the Preakness (Mine That Bird and Pioneer of the Nile), and the Woodward (Macho Again, Bullsbay, and Asiatic Boy).

Yes, in this takeaway game, Rachel Alexandra wins.  But I don't think it's as dominating a victory as you might have imagined.  And if you think I've left out the Oaks... well, let's just say beating future claimer Stone Legacy by 20+ lengths doesn't even rate.  It is no accident I've left it out.

But now we put the race back in.  Suddenly Zenyatta has won the BCC, beaten MTB, Summer Bird, Gio Ponti, Rip Van Winkle, Colonel John, and Einstein--all in the same race!  You put Rachel's Haskell back in and she has additionally beaten Summer Bird.  

hmmm...

p.s. takeaway Victory Gallop's nose and Real Quiet is Triple Crown Champion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AAForever,</p>
<p>Well, you can&#8217;t really takeaway races or wins can you?  If you could Mine That Bird wouldn&#8217;t attract crowds where ever he goes.  2nd in the Preakness and 3rd in the Belmont is not the same as the &#8216;Kentucky Derby Winner&#8217; !</p>
<p>But more importantly, takeaway Touch Gold&#8217;s tremendous stretch drive in the &#8216;97 Belmont and suddenly Silver Charm might be one of the top 25 horses of all time&#8211;not languishing away at #63.  Where would Smarty Jones be if not for Birdstone in &#8216;04?  Point Given if not for Monarchos&#8217; Secretariat-esque Derby run?  I could go on but surely you will admit &#8216;point given&#8217; ?</p>
<p>Yet suppose for a moment we play your takeaway game.  You propose we takeaway a $5 million race with what some call the deepest field of horses assembled this year.  Then Zenyatta is left with just 4 races, 3 of which she beat the eventual 2009 BC Ladies Classic champion, Life is Sweet.</p>
<p>Now we takeaway Rachel&#8217;s most impressive victory.  It&#8217;s a tough call, because if you look closely at the fields, none were very deep.  But takeaway the Haskell because Summer Bird is arguably the best horse she&#8217;s run against this year.  Rachel is left with the Preakness (Mine That Bird and Pioneer of the Nile), and the Woodward (Macho Again, Bullsbay, and Asiatic Boy).</p>
<p>Yes, in this takeaway game, Rachel Alexandra wins.  But I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s as dominating a victory as you might have imagined.  And if you think I&#8217;ve left out the Oaks&#8230; well, let&#8217;s just say beating future claimer Stone Legacy by 20+ lengths doesn&#8217;t even rate.  It is no accident I&#8217;ve left it out.</p>
<p>But now we put the race back in.  Suddenly Zenyatta has won the BCC, beaten MTB, Summer Bird, Gio Ponti, Rip Van Winkle, Colonel John, and Einstein&#8211;all in the same race!  You put Rachel&#8217;s Haskell back in and she has additionally beaten Summer Bird.  </p>
<p>hmmm&#8230;</p>
<p>p.s. takeaway Victory Gallop&#8217;s nose and Real Quiet is Triple Crown Champion.</p>
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		<title>By: afleetalexforever</title>
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		<dc:creator>afleetalexforever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved your article its pretty much spot on.  Here is what my 1 point is for the Zenyatta fans. When comparing their records and the significance of the races they won. Let's take 1 important race away from the equation for both horses.  The Haskell, Preakness or the Woodward, or even the Kentucky Oaks could be removed from the equation for Rachel and the Campaign is soooooo impressive.  On the Flip side if you take away Zenyatta's BCC win what are you left with.  Oh yeah a all out nose win against an allowance horse named Anabaa's Creation.  Wow that is impressive, I would love for the Zenyatta lovers to answer that question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved your article its pretty much spot on.  Here is what my 1 point is for the Zenyatta fans. When comparing their records and the significance of the races they won. Let&#8217;s take 1 important race away from the equation for both horses.  The Haskell, Preakness or the Woodward, or even the Kentucky Oaks could be removed from the equation for Rachel and the Campaign is soooooo impressive.  On the Flip side if you take away Zenyatta&#8217;s BCC win what are you left with.  Oh yeah a all out nose win against an allowance horse named Anabaa&#8217;s Creation.  Wow that is impressive, I would love for the Zenyatta lovers to answer that question.</p>
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		<title>By: bellesforever</title>
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		<dc:creator>bellesforever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 02:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rachael did indeed set track records while gearing down!!  does anyone here think that zenyatta would have run in the classic if not for rachael throwing the first three punches? i love both of these champs but we are talking about a three yro that raced almost double the races that the 5 yro mare raced.rachael wasn't ducking anybody..i give her connections kudos for giving her much needed rest.
why do some have to demean one or the other? we will never know who would beat who in a match race..  after ruffian i hope i never ever see another match race..
rachael beat a lot of grade 1's at a few different tracks.zenyatta never left the comfort of her home..okay once but not this year.zenyatta ran down the boys but rach did it three times..i guess you know who i am going with..
rachael alexandra the great!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rachael did indeed set track records while gearing down!!  does anyone here think that zenyatta would have run in the classic if not for rachael throwing the first three punches? i love both of these champs but we are talking about a three yro that raced almost double the races that the 5 yro mare raced.rachael wasn&#8217;t ducking anybody..i give her connections kudos for giving her much needed rest.<br />
why do some have to demean one or the other? we will never know who would beat who in a match race..  after ruffian i hope i never ever see another match race..<br />
rachael beat a lot of grade 1&#8217;s at a few different tracks.zenyatta never left the comfort of her home..okay once but not this year.zenyatta ran down the boys but rach did it three times..i guess you know who i am going with..<br />
rachael alexandra the great!</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Potts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Potts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laura:  Thank you!  That is some serious research.  But even after all of that, I am still with Rachel Alexandra.  But I must say the debate with everyone on here has been interesting and enjoyable.  And I am sure it will continue.  What a year!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laura:  Thank you!  That is some serious research.  But even after all of that, I am still with Rachel Alexandra.  But I must say the debate with everyone on here has been interesting and enjoyable.  And I am sure it will continue.  What a year!</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh said: "Seriously, if there is another 3yo filly with RA’s level of accomplishments in this sport’s history, please let me know. "

Busher -10 for 13 from May to October 1945 - the year when there was no racing until May due to WWII.  Only her first two races that year were restricted to 3 year old fillies.  She began beating the 3 year old boys third time out and beat the older girls in her fourth race and several more times after that, and won carrying top weight when weight actually meant something- and there were fewer weight-for-age events than there are now.   Later that year she beat older males twice and that included Armed, himself a champion, setting a track record at 1-1/4 miles in the Washington Park Handicap.  Often her assigned weight in those handicaps wiped out the "gender allowance" she was entitled to.   Her losses occurred when she gave weight to the winners, sometimes quite a bit of it.   She was HOY in 1945.  Just about the only thing not on her resume was a Triple Crown race, but in that fractured year of 1945 that is not a glaring omission.  Injured that October, she was unable to return to form after sitting out her 4 year old year, losing her only race at five.  Busher's three year old season stands right up there with the best by any three year old, regardless of gender, in the history of the sport.  I pulled this information from Wikipedia, National Racing Hall of Fame, and BloodHorse's Top 100 Thoroughbred Champions of the 20th Century.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh said: &#8220;Seriously, if there is another 3yo filly with RA’s level of accomplishments in this sport’s history, please let me know. &#8221;</p>
<p>Busher -10 for 13 from May to October 1945 - the year when there was no racing until May due to WWII.  Only her first two races that year were restricted to 3 year old fillies.  She began beating the 3 year old boys third time out and beat the older girls in her fourth race and several more times after that, and won carrying top weight when weight actually meant something- and there were fewer weight-for-age events than there are now.   Later that year she beat older males twice and that included Armed, himself a champion, setting a track record at 1-1/4 miles in the Washington Park Handicap.  Often her assigned weight in those handicaps wiped out the &#8220;gender allowance&#8221; she was entitled to.   Her losses occurred when she gave weight to the winners, sometimes quite a bit of it.   She was HOY in 1945.  Just about the only thing not on her resume was a Triple Crown race, but in that fractured year of 1945 that is not a glaring omission.  Injured that October, she was unable to return to form after sitting out her 4 year old year, losing her only race at five.  Busher&#8217;s three year old season stands right up there with the best by any three year old, regardless of gender, in the history of the sport.  I pulled this information from Wikipedia, National Racing Hall of Fame, and BloodHorse&#8217;s Top 100 Thoroughbred Champions of the 20th Century.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Wong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray Wong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you can summarize their respective years in the following manner:

Number of Wins:  Rachel, 8-5.  Rachel won 5 Gr.I + 2 Gr.II.  Zenyatta won 4 Gr.I + 1 Gr.II

Prestigious Races:  Rachel, 3-1.  Rachel won the Preakness, Haskell, and Woodward.  Zenyatta the BC Classic.

Beating the Boys:  Rachel, 3-1. See above.  Note: Preakness and Haskell for 3yo's.

Margin of Victory:  Well, I don't think much of this measure at all.  It should be noted that Rachel's much touted 20+ length victory in the Oaks was against mostly G3 / Allowance competition.  E.g. the 2nd place finisher Stone Legacy actually dropped down to a *Claiming* race in August.  But if it matters, then Rachel.

'Other' Victories (not against the boys):  Zenyatta.  She beat Life is Sweet three times this year.  This filly would win 2 Gr.I's (incl. the 2009 Ladies' Classic) and 2 Gr.II's.  LIS also finished 3rd in the Hollywood Gold Cup (against the boys).  In contrast, Rachel beat a future Gr.I winner and some Gr.III winners.

Impressive Horses Beat:  Zenyatta.  She beat Mine That Bird, Summer Bird, Gio Ponti, Rip Van Winkle, Colonel John, and Einstein--not to mention Life is Sweet.  Rachel beat Mine That Bird and Summer Bird.  Pioneer of the Nile *might* have been pretty good.  The other TC colts may develop down the line--only time will tell.

Munnings, Bullsbay, Macho Again, and Asiatic Boy are kind of iffy.  Yes, I realize MA and AB beat Einstein in the Stephen Foster this year but I don't think anyone seriously rates them as better horses overall.

So there you have it.  On paper, Rachel has the sheer numbers and the prestigious races.  Closer inspection shows Zenyatta beat better horses.  Who's HOY?  I guess it depends how heavily you weigh each of the factors above.

In the final accounting, a case could be made either way--with probably a slight edge to Rachel in fact.  

But here's how I look at it.  Zenyatta is the defending Eclipse Champion Older Female.  She is also the defending Ladies' Classic winner.  Zenyatta beat the future 2009 Ladies' Classic winner all year long.  Finally, she went on to win the boys Classic herself.  Where was the challenge from Rachel Alexandra while all this was happening?  

Zenyatta--by a nose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you can summarize their respective years in the following manner:</p>
<p>Number of Wins:  Rachel, 8-5.  Rachel won 5 Gr.I + 2 Gr.II.  Zenyatta won 4 Gr.I + 1 Gr.II</p>
<p>Prestigious Races:  Rachel, 3-1.  Rachel won the Preakness, Haskell, and Woodward.  Zenyatta the BC Classic.</p>
<p>Beating the Boys:  Rachel, 3-1. See above.  Note: Preakness and Haskell for 3yo&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Margin of Victory:  Well, I don&#8217;t think much of this measure at all.  It should be noted that Rachel&#8217;s much touted 20+ length victory in the Oaks was against mostly G3 / Allowance competition.  E.g. the 2nd place finisher Stone Legacy actually dropped down to a *Claiming* race in August.  But if it matters, then Rachel.</p>
<p>&#8216;Other&#8217; Victories (not against the boys):  Zenyatta.  She beat Life is Sweet three times this year.  This filly would win 2 Gr.I&#8217;s (incl. the 2009 Ladies&#8217; Classic) and 2 Gr.II&#8217;s.  LIS also finished 3rd in the Hollywood Gold Cup (against the boys).  In contrast, Rachel beat a future Gr.I winner and some Gr.III winners.</p>
<p>Impressive Horses Beat:  Zenyatta.  She beat Mine That Bird, Summer Bird, Gio Ponti, Rip Van Winkle, Colonel John, and Einstein&#8211;not to mention Life is Sweet.  Rachel beat Mine That Bird and Summer Bird.  Pioneer of the Nile *might* have been pretty good.  The other TC colts may develop down the line&#8211;only time will tell.</p>
<p>Munnings, Bullsbay, Macho Again, and Asiatic Boy are kind of iffy.  Yes, I realize MA and AB beat Einstein in the Stephen Foster this year but I don&#8217;t think anyone seriously rates them as better horses overall.</p>
<p>So there you have it.  On paper, Rachel has the sheer numbers and the prestigious races.  Closer inspection shows Zenyatta beat better horses.  Who&#8217;s HOY?  I guess it depends how heavily you weigh each of the factors above.</p>
<p>In the final accounting, a case could be made either way&#8211;with probably a slight edge to Rachel in fact.  </p>
<p>But here&#8217;s how I look at it.  Zenyatta is the defending Eclipse Champion Older Female.  She is also the defending Ladies&#8217; Classic winner.  Zenyatta beat the future 2009 Ladies&#8217; Classic winner all year long.  Finally, she went on to win the boys Classic herself.  Where was the challenge from Rachel Alexandra while all this was happening?  </p>
<p>Zenyatta&#8211;by a nose.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Paulick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray Paulick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Horton Jr. .... I wish rather than hurling an insult toward an aspiring young journalist like Natalie Voss who happens to love Thoroughbred racing, you would respectfully disagree with her point of view. It's not that hard to disagree without being disagreeable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Horton Jr. &#8230;. I wish rather than hurling an insult toward an aspiring young journalist like Natalie Voss who happens to love Thoroughbred racing, you would respectfully disagree with her point of view. It&#8217;s not that hard to disagree without being disagreeable.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Potts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Potts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Horton, Jr.:  Had you read Ray's intro, you would have noticed that Natalie is a University of Kentucky student.  Therefore, you would have known what she was doing prior to interning for the Paulick Report: she's a student.

And nobody is discounting Zenyatta's win in the BC Classic.  It was awesome.  We get that.  It was a smashing, sensational, sizzling victory.  Very, very exciting to say the least.

But of Zenyatta's five races this year, her backers are basing their HOY opinions based on that one race.  They barely, if ever, mention her other four races this year.  Now, other than being the first female to ever win the BC Classic, I'm not sure that there is anything she did in 2009 which hasn't been done before.  While it certainly doesn't happen all the time, mares have beaten older horses in Grade or Group 1 company before.  Doesn't happen all the time, but it does happen.  In fact, Goldikova did it twice this year.

And yes, Zenyatta beat a deep field in the Classic.  But we can't pretend that beating Gio Ponti and Rip Van Winkle on the pro-ride is the same as beating them on turf.

What Rachel Alexandra did this year is unprecedented for a 3yo filly.  Seriously, if there is another 3yo filly with RA's level of accomplishments in this sport's history, please let me know.  Her Preakness was awesome.  She chased Big Drama through fast early fractions and still was able to hold off a fast-closing Mine That Bird.  Ridicule Mine That Bird all you want, but on dirt, he's a good closer.  As far as his performance Saturday, who knows, maybe he's not what he was prior to the surgery.

Her Haskell in the slop was also another fantastic performance.  Then, she stepped out of her division even more by facing older males in the Woodward and defeating them.  Seriously, when has a 3yo filly ever done anything like this before?

Zenyatta has had a great career.  Can't do much better than 14-for-14.  But nine of those races occured prior to this year, so we can't really factor those in too much.  It's not a lifetime achievement award we're debating, it's Horse of the Year.  And no horse had a better year, in my humble opinion, than Rachel Alexandra.

Natalie: Again, great piece.  Don't let these kinds of comments bother you.  Keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Horton, Jr.:  Had you read Ray&#8217;s intro, you would have noticed that Natalie is a University of Kentucky student.  Therefore, you would have known what she was doing prior to interning for the Paulick Report: she&#8217;s a student.</p>
<p>And nobody is discounting Zenyatta&#8217;s win in the BC Classic.  It was awesome.  We get that.  It was a smashing, sensational, sizzling victory.  Very, very exciting to say the least.</p>
<p>But of Zenyatta&#8217;s five races this year, her backers are basing their HOY opinions based on that one race.  They barely, if ever, mention her other four races this year.  Now, other than being the first female to ever win the BC Classic, I&#8217;m not sure that there is anything she did in 2009 which hasn&#8217;t been done before.  While it certainly doesn&#8217;t happen all the time, mares have beaten older horses in Grade or Group 1 company before.  Doesn&#8217;t happen all the time, but it does happen.  In fact, Goldikova did it twice this year.</p>
<p>And yes, Zenyatta beat a deep field in the Classic.  But we can&#8217;t pretend that beating Gio Ponti and Rip Van Winkle on the pro-ride is the same as beating them on turf.</p>
<p>What Rachel Alexandra did this year is unprecedented for a 3yo filly.  Seriously, if there is another 3yo filly with RA&#8217;s level of accomplishments in this sport&#8217;s history, please let me know.  Her Preakness was awesome.  She chased Big Drama through fast early fractions and still was able to hold off a fast-closing Mine That Bird.  Ridicule Mine That Bird all you want, but on dirt, he&#8217;s a good closer.  As far as his performance Saturday, who knows, maybe he&#8217;s not what he was prior to the surgery.</p>
<p>Her Haskell in the slop was also another fantastic performance.  Then, she stepped out of her division even more by facing older males in the Woodward and defeating them.  Seriously, when has a 3yo filly ever done anything like this before?</p>
<p>Zenyatta has had a great career.  Can&#8217;t do much better than 14-for-14.  But nine of those races occured prior to this year, so we can&#8217;t really factor those in too much.  It&#8217;s not a lifetime achievement award we&#8217;re debating, it&#8217;s Horse of the Year.  And no horse had a better year, in my humble opinion, than Rachel Alexandra.</p>
<p>Natalie: Again, great piece.  Don&#8217;t let these kinds of comments bother you.  Keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: John Horton, Jr.</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Horton, Jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Natalie Voss,  I don't know what you were doing before you started interning  for the Paulick Report, but maybe you should consider going back to that job. First of all, Rachael beat males three times, most of which were in the Classic. You sure dropped the ball on that one. Of the entire Classic field, only Mine That Bird and Summer Bird are on Rachael's resume'. And personally, I feel that the 09' Classic has done an excellent job of exposing Mine That Bird for exactly what he is. A Grade 3 Stakes horse at best. He's one of those horses that won the biggest race he ever has or ever will win in the Kentucky Derby by it being absolutely a fluke. He's done nothing since then but completely regress in his career. And making the statement that a front runner smashing her competition is more impressive than a horse that can spot a field like the Classic a good 15 lengths and then make that up and blow past them like a runaway locomotive. I'm not sure how long you've been following  thoroughbred racing, but for a deep closing horse like Zenyatta to still have an undefeated recorded without coming up short once in making up all those lengths, to me that's much more impressive than one who either is on or stalks the pace then opens up to pull away. That's much more common in racing than Zenyatta's style imo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Natalie Voss,  I don&#8217;t know what you were doing before you started interning  for the Paulick Report, but maybe you should consider going back to that job. First of all, Rachael beat males three times, most of which were in the Classic. You sure dropped the ball on that one. Of the entire Classic field, only Mine That Bird and Summer Bird are on Rachael&#8217;s resume&#8217;. And personally, I feel that the 09&#8242; Classic has done an excellent job of exposing Mine That Bird for exactly what he is. A Grade 3 Stakes horse at best. He&#8217;s one of those horses that won the biggest race he ever has or ever will win in the Kentucky Derby by it being absolutely a fluke. He&#8217;s done nothing since then but completely regress in his career. And making the statement that a front runner smashing her competition is more impressive than a horse that can spot a field like the Classic a good 15 lengths and then make that up and blow past them like a runaway locomotive. I&#8217;m not sure how long you&#8217;ve been following  thoroughbred racing, but for a deep closing horse like Zenyatta to still have an undefeated recorded without coming up short once in making up all those lengths, to me that&#8217;s much more impressive than one who either is on or stalks the pace then opens up to pull away. That&#8217;s much more common in racing than Zenyatta&#8217;s style imo.</p>
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		<title>By: John Horton, Jr.</title>
		<link>http://www.paulickreport.com/blog/rachel-vs-zenyatta-champions-for-a-new-generation/comment-page-1/#comment-18127</link>
		<dc:creator>John Horton, Jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ktq, I don't know how Rachael got this "world traveler" tag laid on her. After coming home from Maryland in the Preakness, where else did she go other than New York and New Jersey. Not exactly a cross country trip. As big as California is, I'd almost bet that the total distance traveled between Hollywood, Santa Anita, and Del Mar park's is about as much as from Monmouth to Saratoga. Probably not quite, but you see my point. She stayed primarily in the New York area herself after the Preakness. And the gentleman above who said that Zenyatta was the reigning champion. It's the challenger's job to seek out the champion is absolutely correct. Zenyatta didn't have to leave California because she was the champion. She's proven worthy on dirt as well if you'll remember beating a super group of fillies at Oaklawn in 2008 headed by Ginger Punch. A champion in her own right. Zenyatta sought her out, raced her, and beat her. That's the thing about Jess Jackson that I don't like. He play's that synthetic card too much after we all had already seen Rachael race and win quite easily over the surface at Keenland when she was with her previous owner. He constantly uses Curlin losing over the surface as an excuse to not race Rachael over it. If you're looking to beat the best, you've got to be willing to race both surfaces. Like it or not, synthetics are likely here to stay. Zenyatta, at least, in her career has raced over dirt and raced champion fillies  in doing so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ktq, I don&#8217;t know how Rachael got this &#8220;world traveler&#8221; tag laid on her. After coming home from Maryland in the Preakness, where else did she go other than New York and New Jersey. Not exactly a cross country trip. As big as California is, I&#8217;d almost bet that the total distance traveled between Hollywood, Santa Anita, and Del Mar park&#8217;s is about as much as from Monmouth to Saratoga. Probably not quite, but you see my point. She stayed primarily in the New York area herself after the Preakness. And the gentleman above who said that Zenyatta was the reigning champion. It&#8217;s the challenger&#8217;s job to seek out the champion is absolutely correct. Zenyatta didn&#8217;t have to leave California because she was the champion. She&#8217;s proven worthy on dirt as well if you&#8217;ll remember beating a super group of fillies at Oaklawn in 2008 headed by Ginger Punch. A champion in her own right. Zenyatta sought her out, raced her, and beat her. That&#8217;s the thing about Jess Jackson that I don&#8217;t like. He play&#8217;s that synthetic card too much after we all had already seen Rachael race and win quite easily over the surface at Keenland when she was with her previous owner. He constantly uses Curlin losing over the surface as an excuse to not race Rachael over it. If you&#8217;re looking to beat the best, you&#8217;ve got to be willing to race both surfaces. Like it or not, synthetics are likely here to stay. Zenyatta, at least, in her career has raced over dirt and raced champion fillies  in doing so.</p>
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