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	<pubDate>Thu,  4 Dec 2008 06:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Noelle</title>
		<link>http://www.paulickreport.com/blog/live-blogging-the-congressional-hearing/#comment-152</link>
		<dc:creator>Noelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 18:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just found this blog - wish I'd known about it last week!  Dustin - didn't you hear Dr. Soma of Penn's New Bolton Center testify?  He said quite clearly that Lasix is a nothing more than a performance enhancing drug, which also has the negative effect of masking the presence of other drugs - illegal drugs - that may be in the horse's system.   

I'm with those who want to ban all the drugs.  Several of the more credible witnesses agreed that whatever is currently wrong with the breed would right itself over several generations as undrugged horses competed and won (or lost).  The drug-free winners would make it to the breeding shed - the drug-free losers would not be bred and would not pass their genetic flaws on to their offspring.

If a drug free regime means that breeders will have fewer offspring to sell, that's just an added bonus.  Fewer offspring would mean that we wouldn't have so many unsuccessful, unwanted and damaged Thoroughbreds being trucked to Mexico or Canada for slaughter.    

Finally, the fans ARE being heard - do any of you think for one moment that Congress or anybody else would be paying attention to these issues if there were no pressure coming from the fans?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just found this blog - wish I&#8217;d known about it last week!  Dustin - didn&#8217;t you hear Dr. Soma of Penn&#8217;s New Bolton Center testify?  He said quite clearly that Lasix is a nothing more than a performance enhancing drug, which also has the negative effect of masking the presence of other drugs - illegal drugs - that may be in the horse&#8217;s system.   </p>
<p>I&#8217;m with those who want to ban all the drugs.  Several of the more credible witnesses agreed that whatever is currently wrong with the breed would right itself over several generations as undrugged horses competed and won (or lost).  The drug-free winners would make it to the breeding shed - the drug-free losers would not be bred and would not pass their genetic flaws on to their offspring.</p>
<p>If a drug free regime means that breeders will have fewer offspring to sell, that&#8217;s just an added bonus.  Fewer offspring would mean that we wouldn&#8217;t have so many unsuccessful, unwanted and damaged Thoroughbreds being trucked to Mexico or Canada for slaughter.    </p>
<p>Finally, the fans ARE being heard - do any of you think for one moment that Congress or anybody else would be paying attention to these issues if there were no pressure coming from the fans?</p>
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		<title>By: CAM</title>
		<link>http://www.paulickreport.com/blog/live-blogging-the-congressional-hearing/#comment-103</link>
		<dc:creator>CAM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 02:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I meant to say, "does not ensure that horses will run less".  My grammar is off today.  

P.S.  Great blog you have here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I meant to say, &#8220;does not ensure that horses will run less&#8221;.  My grammar is off today.  </p>
<p>P.S.  Great blog you have here.</p>
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		<title>By: CAM</title>
		<link>http://www.paulickreport.com/blog/live-blogging-the-congressional-hearing/#comment-102</link>
		<dc:creator>CAM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 02:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"If you take away those two medications all racing will suffer from the owner who pays the training bills and will incurr far fewer starts per year to the breeders who no longer be able to sell as many offspring because more end users (Racing owners) will be purchasing fewer horses."

There's a flaw in that argument though.  Raceday meds such as bute and lasix were introduced with the belief that they would help horses cope with minor problems and make MORE starts per year.  Unfortunately, the opposite has happened and horses race even less.  The latest published average is approximately 6.3 starts per year.  Taking away the raceday medications doesn't not ensure that horses will run less, and doing so might actually SAVE owners money in the long run by reducing their vet bills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you take away those two medications all racing will suffer from the owner who pays the training bills and will incurr far fewer starts per year to the breeders who no longer be able to sell as many offspring because more end users (Racing owners) will be purchasing fewer horses.&#8221;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a flaw in that argument though.  Raceday meds such as bute and lasix were introduced with the belief that they would help horses cope with minor problems and make MORE starts per year.  Unfortunately, the opposite has happened and horses race even less.  The latest published average is approximately 6.3 starts per year.  Taking away the raceday medications doesn&#8217;t not ensure that horses will run less, and doing so might actually SAVE owners money in the long run by reducing their vet bills.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.paulickreport.com/blog/live-blogging-the-congressional-hearing/#comment-101</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dustin,

I can't tell you how much I wish I could even be in the financial position to even consider purchasing a Thoroughbred for $200,000. Such a purchase is an investment. Like I said, investment assumes risk. If you're not fortunate or talented enough to own horses among the 10% that make a profit, find another business. That's capitalism, welcome to America. You would make more profit if the industry was more efficiently run. Fewer tracks, fewer races, larger fields, larger purses. Unfortunately, owners and trainers fight this effort tooth and nail at every opportunity.

The problem with Lasix is that pretty much every horse in the country is now running with it, and the vast majority of them have no bleeding problems and don't need it. Owner expenses would be considerably reduced if all drugs were banned. Imagine no vet bills littered with drugs! America has become a laughing stock to the rest of the world for its acceptance of both legal and illegal drugs. I'm actually jealous and in awe watching the Brits at Royal Ascot this week. They've really got this sport figured out on the other side of the pond.

Right now, owners and trainers are running drugged horses and then expressing surprise and remorse when they break down. That insanity needs to stop. Support or root for the owners? That'll happen the same time I pity the oil companies...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dustin,</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t tell you how much I wish I could even be in the financial position to even consider purchasing a Thoroughbred for $200,000. Such a purchase is an investment. Like I said, investment assumes risk. If you&#8217;re not fortunate or talented enough to own horses among the 10% that make a profit, find another business. That&#8217;s capitalism, welcome to America. You would make more profit if the industry was more efficiently run. Fewer tracks, fewer races, larger fields, larger purses. Unfortunately, owners and trainers fight this effort tooth and nail at every opportunity.</p>
<p>The problem with Lasix is that pretty much every horse in the country is now running with it, and the vast majority of them have no bleeding problems and don&#8217;t need it. Owner expenses would be considerably reduced if all drugs were banned. Imagine no vet bills littered with drugs! America has become a laughing stock to the rest of the world for its acceptance of both legal and illegal drugs. I&#8217;m actually jealous and in awe watching the Brits at Royal Ascot this week. They&#8217;ve really got this sport figured out on the other side of the pond.</p>
<p>Right now, owners and trainers are running drugged horses and then expressing surprise and remorse when they break down. That insanity needs to stop. Support or root for the owners? That&#8217;ll happen the same time I pity the oil companies&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: dustin</title>
		<link>http://www.paulickreport.com/blog/live-blogging-the-congressional-hearing/#comment-100</link>
		<dc:creator>dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt you are very misinformed regarding profits of owners.

Do the math real quick - total purses paid out don't equal expenses of the the owners.  Then add into the equation acquisition price for the aggregate of the horses.  On average about 10% of all horses raced make a profit each year.  Victori is correct in that gamblers and owners are the life blood of racing.  I also bet on races as do most owners in some degree or fashion.  I am not sure you would respond the same way  with "survival of the fittest" if you had just purchased a horse for $200,000 and was told it bled drastically and it can no longer have the use of lasix to help it from bleeding again and just give it away if it has no breeding value.  As far as risk we have total risk every day  they step on th etrack to train or race that it might be their last.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt you are very misinformed regarding profits of owners.</p>
<p>Do the math real quick - total purses paid out don&#8217;t equal expenses of the the owners.  Then add into the equation acquisition price for the aggregate of the horses.  On average about 10% of all horses raced make a profit each year.  Victori is correct in that gamblers and owners are the life blood of racing.  I also bet on races as do most owners in some degree or fashion.  I am not sure you would respond the same way  with &#8220;survival of the fittest&#8221; if you had just purchased a horse for $200,000 and was told it bled drastically and it can no longer have the use of lasix to help it from bleeding again and just give it away if it has no breeding value.  As far as risk we have total risk every day  they step on th etrack to train or race that it might be their last.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.paulickreport.com/blog/live-blogging-the-congressional-hearing/#comment-99</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I definitely respect your opinion, Victoria, but under current standards, profit is all but guaranteed for even the most mediocre owner. The same will never be said of the horseplayer.

The owners are not the company. The tracks are the company. The owners merely supply the products (horses) for the company (track). I am a customer of the track, not the owners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely respect your opinion, Victoria, but under current standards, profit is all but guaranteed for even the most mediocre owner. The same will never be said of the horseplayer.</p>
<p>The owners are not the company. The tracks are the company. The owners merely supply the products (horses) for the company (track). I am a customer of the track, not the owners.</p>
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		<title>By: Victoria Keith</title>
		<link>http://www.paulickreport.com/blog/live-blogging-the-congressional-hearing/#comment-98</link>
		<dc:creator>Victoria Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt, I'd disagree with you on that last point.  The horseplayers and the owners are the TWO most important groups of people in racing, and they are mutually dependant on each other.  Both groups are gamblers -- one's doing it by buying the horse and paying for its training, and the other is betting on the outcome of that horse's race.  The owner is the company, and the gamblers are the customers of the company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, I&#8217;d disagree with you on that last point.  The horseplayers and the owners are the TWO most important groups of people in racing, and they are mutually dependant on each other.  Both groups are gamblers &#8212; one&#8217;s doing it by buying the horse and paying for its training, and the other is betting on the outcome of that horse&#8217;s race.  The owner is the company, and the gamblers are the customers of the company.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.paulickreport.com/blog/live-blogging-the-congressional-hearing/#comment-97</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 21:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"If you take away those two medications all racing will suffer from the owner who pays the training bills and will incurr far fewer starts per year to the breeders who no longer be able to sell as many offspring because more end users (Racing owners) will be purchasing fewer horses."

Great idea! Risk and survival of the fittest, just like every other business or investment in America. Horse owners and breeders have relied on handouts and entitlements for far too long. Contrary to what their egos lead them to believe, they are not entitled to profit merely for participating.

Horseplayers are the fuel and lifeblood of this sport, not the (w)horsemen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you take away those two medications all racing will suffer from the owner who pays the training bills and will incurr far fewer starts per year to the breeders who no longer be able to sell as many offspring because more end users (Racing owners) will be purchasing fewer horses.&#8221;</p>
<p>Great idea! Risk and survival of the fittest, just like every other business or investment in America. Horse owners and breeders have relied on handouts and entitlements for far too long. Contrary to what their egos lead them to believe, they are not entitled to profit merely for participating.</p>
<p>Horseplayers are the fuel and lifeblood of this sport, not the (w)horsemen.</p>
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		<title>By: dustin</title>
		<link>http://www.paulickreport.com/blog/live-blogging-the-congressional-hearing/#comment-95</link>
		<dc:creator>dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 20:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moss should not be considered anything but a gambler.  He is rarely correct on any of his expetise - analyzing races.  He is in the public eye so he gets to be a mouthpiece.  I have yet to read from anyone that disagrees with these thoughts of abolishing bute and lasix.  It appears that there may be an agenda by a few big icons such as Mr. Hancock and Jess Jackson.  They are not the only people that own and race horses.  I have yet to hear the race track vets discuss their practical findings regarding bute and lasix.  If you take away those two medications all racing will suffer from the owner who pays the training bills and will incurr far fewer starts per year to the breeders who no longer be able to sell as many offspring because more end users (Racing owners) will be purchasing fewer horses.  Randy Moss is a talking head.  How much money has he put in the business of breeding or racing?  I do agree that steriods should be abolished and we should have one national testing center for all tracks so that we can get the best tests applied to every horse that has urine or blood drawn to be tested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moss should not be considered anything but a gambler.  He is rarely correct on any of his expetise - analyzing races.  He is in the public eye so he gets to be a mouthpiece.  I have yet to read from anyone that disagrees with these thoughts of abolishing bute and lasix.  It appears that there may be an agenda by a few big icons such as Mr. Hancock and Jess Jackson.  They are not the only people that own and race horses.  I have yet to hear the race track vets discuss their practical findings regarding bute and lasix.  If you take away those two medications all racing will suffer from the owner who pays the training bills and will incurr far fewer starts per year to the breeders who no longer be able to sell as many offspring because more end users (Racing owners) will be purchasing fewer horses.  Randy Moss is a talking head.  How much money has he put in the business of breeding or racing?  I do agree that steriods should be abolished and we should have one national testing center for all tracks so that we can get the best tests applied to every horse that has urine or blood drawn to be tested.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatsAmoreStable.net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The circus is in town!</title>
		<link>http://www.paulickreport.com/blog/live-blogging-the-congressional-hearing/#comment-91</link>
		<dc:creator>ThatsAmoreStable.net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The circus is in town!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] And any lingering doubts one may have harbored were resolved when Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL), sitting in for subcommittee chair Bobby Rush (D-VA), opened the hearing  by excoriating racing as an industry in which horses are &#8220;doped with cocaine, caffeine, and anabolic steroids&#8221; and one in which faulty breeding practices are the (apparently sole) reason for Eight Belles&#8217; demise. (See Ray Paulick&#8217;s entertaining and informative live blog from the hallowed halls here). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] And any lingering doubts one may have harbored were resolved when Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL), sitting in for subcommittee chair Bobby Rush (D-VA), opened the hearing  by excoriating racing as an industry in which horses are &#8220;doped with cocaine, caffeine, and anabolic steroids&#8221; and one in which faulty breeding practices are the (apparently sole) reason for Eight Belles&#8217; demise. (See Ray Paulick&#8217;s entertaining and informative live blog from the hallowed halls here). [...]</p>
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