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		<title>By: Hp Laserjet Cp1518ni Printer</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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By Ray PaulickFor those of you who decided to disconnect from the racing world on Sunday let me just [...]...</description>
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<p>By Ray PaulickFor those of you who decided to disconnect from the racing world on Sunday let me just [...]&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ibragimov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ibragimov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jr.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 14:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its strange we have not heard from Bob Baffert trainer of POTN owned by Zayat regarding the situation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its strange we have not heard from Bob Baffert trainer of POTN owned by Zayat regarding the situation</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barbara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 22:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A - I do not disagree with your assessment of Rachel's place in the race.

But I it is not disingenuous to have a decided opinion that Zayat and Allen (and quite possibly Whitney) are poor sports trying to avoid a competitor they fear - and at the very least it is not their place to tell Jackson what to do with his filly.  The public trial balloon they sent up Sunday popped rather loudly.

I can think of a few horses in the Preakness that truly don't belong.  See Gov, Luv.  I also would suggest that you are stating that you want to see the classics restricted to male horses.  That is not the condition and had not been since Regret won the Derby in 1915 in her first start of the year, so Rachel has every right to run, just as the maiden winner does.

Jackson hardly gets a free pass for his insufferable ego.  But he is not a poor sport last time I checked and many fans do want to see Rachel run.  I don't buy that she is at more risk than the male horses although I do think she may be less of a horse for quite a while after the race.  On that we agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A - I do not disagree with your assessment of Rachel&#8217;s place in the race.</p>
<p>But I it is not disingenuous to have a decided opinion that Zayat and Allen (and quite possibly Whitney) are poor sports trying to avoid a competitor they fear - and at the very least it is not their place to tell Jackson what to do with his filly.  The public trial balloon they sent up Sunday popped rather loudly.</p>
<p>I can think of a few horses in the Preakness that truly don&#8217;t belong.  See Gov, Luv.  I also would suggest that you are stating that you want to see the classics restricted to male horses.  That is not the condition and had not been since Regret won the Derby in 1915 in her first start of the year, so Rachel has every right to run, just as the maiden winner does.</p>
<p>Jackson hardly gets a free pass for his insufferable ego.  But he is not a poor sport last time I checked and many fans do want to see Rachel run.  I don&#8217;t buy that she is at more risk than the male horses although I do think she may be less of a horse for quite a while after the race.  On that we agree.</p>
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		<title>By: Alejandro Diezmacho</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alejandro Diezmacho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 20:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I am not Zayat. I was just trying to get people to look at this whole story from a different perspective.

As I see it, one owner bought a horse and wanted to enter it into a race, other owners discussed potentially blocking that move. Neither group was doing anything illegal, and from a truly objective point of view, neither had a moral upper hand. Everyone was quick to jump on Allen and Zayat without looking at the whole picture.

And with all do respect to the commentor, you cannot compare the Derby Trail and the races that RA ran prior to the Oaks (or to the Oaks themselves).

If you want to engage in a serious discussion regarding what is wrong with the sport and how to correct it, I am more than willing. But the hysteria and the hype over what was essentially an open discussion of strategy by some owners was disingenuous to say the least!

I will conclude with the thought that I, along with everyone else, would love to see RA run against POTN and MTB. At the same time, I harbor more than a little concern that it is not in RAs best interest and that her owners are subjecting her to great risk for the sake of their own ego. If you ask me, having a 3-year old filly run with boys is the immoral act, and if anyone is to be pilloried it should be Jess Jackson. I would be much happier seeing this race being run amongst 4-year olds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I am not Zayat. I was just trying to get people to look at this whole story from a different perspective.</p>
<p>As I see it, one owner bought a horse and wanted to enter it into a race, other owners discussed potentially blocking that move. Neither group was doing anything illegal, and from a truly objective point of view, neither had a moral upper hand. Everyone was quick to jump on Allen and Zayat without looking at the whole picture.</p>
<p>And with all do respect to the commentor, you cannot compare the Derby Trail and the races that RA ran prior to the Oaks (or to the Oaks themselves).</p>
<p>If you want to engage in a serious discussion regarding what is wrong with the sport and how to correct it, I am more than willing. But the hysteria and the hype over what was essentially an open discussion of strategy by some owners was disingenuous to say the least!</p>
<p>I will conclude with the thought that I, along with everyone else, would love to see RA run against POTN and MTB. At the same time, I harbor more than a little concern that it is not in RAs best interest and that her owners are subjecting her to great risk for the sake of their own ego. If you ask me, having a 3-year old filly run with boys is the immoral act, and if anyone is to be pilloried it should be Jess Jackson. I would be much happier seeing this race being run amongst 4-year olds.</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barbara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 18:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ellise, the difference might be the "thought police" likes it when you think it through in private and don't offer immoral ideas up for televised debate;)

Honestly, and I will stop at this, but I think I am more put off by the stupidity to advertise it, than the unsportsmanlike "thought" itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ellise, the difference might be the &#8220;thought police&#8221; likes it when you think it through in private and don&#8217;t offer immoral ideas up for televised debate;)</p>
<p>Honestly, and I will stop at this, but I think I am more put off by the stupidity to advertise it, than the unsportsmanlike &#8220;thought&#8221; itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Eilise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eilise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 17:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are people so upset about something that might have happened?  Zayat talked openly on HRTV about how he and MTB's owner were considering entering enough horses to keep RA out of the Preakness.  As this article admits, within a day they decided against it.  So big deal, they THOUGHT about it and didn't do it in the end.  And keep in mind the actions they considered taking were perfectly legal.    

The thought police need to tone down your self righteous outrage, unless you've never even considered doing something that could gain you an advantage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are people so upset about something that might have happened?  Zayat talked openly on HRTV about how he and MTB&#8217;s owner were considering entering enough horses to keep RA out of the Preakness.  As this article admits, within a day they decided against it.  So big deal, they THOUGHT about it and didn&#8217;t do it in the end.  And keep in mind the actions they considered taking were perfectly legal.    </p>
<p>The thought police need to tone down your self righteous outrage, unless you&#8217;ve never even considered doing something that could gain you an advantage.</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barbara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 16:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GZ, 

This is the first paragraph in C-J story link:

"The co-owner of Kentucky Derby winner Mine That Bird said this morning that it "was selfish" and "wrong" for him to consider running a maiden in Saturday's Preakness Stakes in an effort to exclude Kentucky Oaks winner Rachel Alexandra."

The guy wears a black hat for a reason...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GZ, </p>
<p>This is the first paragraph in C-J story link:</p>
<p>&#8220;The co-owner of Kentucky Derby winner Mine That Bird said this morning that it &#8220;was selfish&#8221; and &#8220;wrong&#8221; for him to consider running a maiden in Saturday&#8217;s Preakness Stakes in an effort to exclude Kentucky Oaks winner Rachel Alexandra.&#8221;</p>
<p>The guy wears a black hat for a reason&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ghostzapper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ghostzapper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 14:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ray

Once again you use your mouse to stir it up.  The picture on your website with the header "selfish and wrong" is totally misleading.  You continue to amaze me with your biased opinions.  Take the header off immediately.  Only if they wore white hats huh Ray......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray</p>
<p>Once again you use your mouse to stir it up.  The picture on your website with the header &#8220;selfish and wrong&#8221; is totally misleading.  You continue to amaze me with your biased opinions.  Take the header off immediately.  Only if they wore white hats huh Ray&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Chatsworth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray Chatsworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 13:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about the fact that this "conspiracy" wasn't going to work anyway. The call that was supposedly made by the Maryland official probably wasn't to appeal to Zayat's better nature. The conditions of the Preakness do not specifically give preference to original nominees over supplemental nominees. The MJC and Triple Crown Productions needed all this talk to stop or else they would have been hauled before a judge Thursday or Friday by the ever-litigious Jess Jackson to explain what "properly nominated" means. The Kentucky Derby specifically gives preference to original nominees. The Preakness and Belmont do not. The Triple Crown doesn't want the idea to get out that you could win a race with a nice pot (like the Kentucky Oaks) and just waltz into the Preakness or Belmont by paying $100,000. They want all those $600 checks at the start of the year from the big operations like Zayat's or the shoot-the-moon dreamers like Allen and Komlo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about the fact that this &#8220;conspiracy&#8221; wasn&#8217;t going to work anyway. The call that was supposedly made by the Maryland official probably wasn&#8217;t to appeal to Zayat&#8217;s better nature. The conditions of the Preakness do not specifically give preference to original nominees over supplemental nominees. The MJC and Triple Crown Productions needed all this talk to stop or else they would have been hauled before a judge Thursday or Friday by the ever-litigious Jess Jackson to explain what &#8220;properly nominated&#8221; means. The Kentucky Derby specifically gives preference to original nominees. The Preakness and Belmont do not. The Triple Crown doesn&#8217;t want the idea to get out that you could win a race with a nice pot (like the Kentucky Oaks) and just waltz into the Preakness or Belmont by paying $100,000. They want all those $600 checks at the start of the year from the big operations like Zayat&#8217;s or the shoot-the-moon dreamers like Allen and Komlo.</p>
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