Comments on: AMERICAN GRADED STAKES STANDINGS brought to you by Keeneland: BREEDING ABOUT MORE THAN MONEY? http://www.paulickreport.com/blog/american-graded-stakes-standings-brought-to-you-by-keeneland-breeding-about-more-than-money/ An independent voice for news, analysis and commentary on the Thoroughbred racing and breeding industry Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:47:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Byron Rogers http://www.paulickreport.com/blog/american-graded-stakes-standings-brought-to-you-by-keeneland-breeding-about-more-than-money/comment-page-1/#comment-18452 Byron Rogers Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:28:00 +0000 http://www.paulickreport.com/?p=9653#comment-18452 With no disrespect to the other candidates, I am hoping that Mr Evans gets the award here. Smaller operations with limited numbers do not seem to garner the same respect for whatever reason. One of the bigger travesties was Mr & Mrs Aaron Jones not getting the Eclipse Award a few years ago. From a small band of no more than 25 mares they had two Breeders Cup winners in the one year in Ashado and Speightstown but that feat rarely got a mention in the run up to the Eclipse awards. Mr Evans, who has been a solid breeder for some time, has had a great year and deserves the recognition. With no disrespect to the other candidates, I am hoping that Mr Evans gets the award here.

Smaller operations with limited numbers do not seem to garner the same respect for whatever reason. One of the bigger travesties was Mr & Mrs Aaron Jones not getting the Eclipse Award a few years ago. From a small band of no more than 25 mares they had two Breeders Cup winners in the one year in Ashado and Speightstown but that feat rarely got a mention in the run up to the Eclipse awards.

Mr Evans, who has been a solid breeder for some time, has had a great year and deserves the recognition.

]]> By: marvey http://www.paulickreport.com/blog/american-graded-stakes-standings-brought-to-you-by-keeneland-breeding-about-more-than-money/comment-page-1/#comment-18393 marvey Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:23:48 +0000 http://www.paulickreport.com/?p=9653#comment-18393 Totals mean very little. It would be better to show standings as percentage of horses sold winning a graded stake or percentage of runners winning a graded stake. Of course yearling leads in the "Sale Year" category because more horses are sold as yearlings than any other age. Of course Keeneland September leads the "Sale" category because it has the largest catalog. Totals mean very little. It would be better to show standings as percentage of horses sold winning a graded stake or percentage of runners winning a graded stake.

Of course yearling leads in the “Sale Year” category because more horses are sold as yearlings than any other age. Of course Keeneland September leads the “Sale” category because it has the largest catalog.

]]> By: John S. http://www.paulickreport.com/blog/american-graded-stakes-standings-brought-to-you-by-keeneland-breeding-about-more-than-money/comment-page-1/#comment-18357 John S. Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:19:39 +0000 http://www.paulickreport.com/?p=9653#comment-18357 It's been a tremendous year for the Darley outfit any way you look at it. I want, however, to just make a quick comment, as a voter, about your post: Clearly you do not believe Adena deserves a sixth straight breeder award. Your arguments have merit. However, there is no criteria for the selection of any of the Eclipse awards, so voters must make up their own. This is probably as it should be, although I would be open to suggestion and discussion about a future criteria-based system. I would argue (maybe just for argument's sake) that a breeder that puts so many live runners on the ground right now is more beneficial and critical to the well-being of the sport than any breeder who produces graded stakes winners. At a time of declining foal crops, field shortages, and considering the sheer volume of races run in the United States, a breeder still producing a lot of horses is a very good thing, indeed. Does it qualify for the honor of breeder of the year? I don't know, but shouldn't it be factored into the equation? It’s been a tremendous year for the Darley outfit any way you look at it. I want, however, to just make a quick comment, as a voter, about your post: Clearly you do not believe Adena deserves a sixth straight breeder award. Your arguments have merit. However, there is no criteria for the selection of any of the Eclipse awards, so voters must make up their own. This is probably as it should be, although I would be open to suggestion and discussion about a future criteria-based system. I would argue (maybe just for argument’s sake) that a breeder that puts so many live runners on the ground right now is more beneficial and critical to the well-being of the sport than any breeder who produces graded stakes winners. At a time of declining foal crops, field shortages, and considering the sheer volume of races run in the United States, a breeder still producing a lot of horses is a very good thing, indeed. Does it qualify for the honor of breeder of the year? I don’t know, but shouldn’t it be factored into the equation?

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